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hmm

I was just thinking that who really is America's ally?

Israel? Britain? France? Germany? Japan?

Do you think any of these countries would care if America was to fall?

I have this feeling that all the countries in the WORLD want America to fall......... We have heard little murmurs of countries wanting to drop the Dollar as the reserve status...

I don't trust these so called allies.... I just feel that as soon as America is about to fall all these so called buddies will turn their backs.....

Even if we don't agree with the GOVT, do you LOVE your country?

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

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 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


I in general don't hate the majority of American individuals specifically.

I do not like how your country has conducted politics in the post sovjet union collapsed world though. Lying lying and more lying.

And I do hate what large groups of US citizens stand for such as the right wing evangelicals or rampant retarded nationalism, but even that is a generalization and not really aimed at anyone specific.

So in all I do hate the US as a nation state, just as I hate Iran as a nation state and ironically for a lot of overlapping reasons.
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hmm

I was just thinking that who really is America's ally?

Israel? Britain? France? Germany? Japan?

Do you think any of these countries would care if America was to fall?

I have this feeling that all the countries in the WORLD want America to fall......... We have heard little murmurs of countries wanting to drop the Dollar as the reserve status...

I don't trust these so called allies.... I just feel that as soon as America is about to fall all these so called buddies will turn their backs.....

Even if we don't agree with the GOVT, do you LOVE your country?

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

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 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


Lets not have this discussion!

Lets have a discussion about that we all live on this tiny planet racing trough space and we should work together because thats the only sane thing to do! And in basic we are all the same, we come from the same source.

So please, lets not have a discussion about things that seggregate us but about what brings us together!peace
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Prove your money is backed by anything and I will believe you, come on now you made me show proof, until you do I stand by my ground that you are a liar and fabricator, still ignoring the fact that I proved my point so either show me or admit your wrong AGAIN
 Quoting: PlasticDuck

Canada has a legitimate monetary system America douse not pease educate yourself about your own country



 
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869


You would post a young turks video, either way you have not proved that the canadian money system is back by any actual resource nor can you because you fabricated your statement.
 Quoting: PlasticDuck


[link to richinwriters.com]

in short NO Canadian money is not backed by gold however its still regulated by the Government.
 
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869


Which proves nothing but the fact you lied. you couldn't help the fact that I could prove my point and you had to try to cheat me out of that.

So once again, Americans are the most productive in the world. POINT PROVEN so just apologize for calling me a liar and be done with it, unless you want to continue fabricating.



"Canada prints its money but its backed by REAL GOLD it has REAL value. your money is created out of thin air by the Federal bank despite your county not having the gold to back up your paper moneys value."

This statement of yours is a lie! Proven.

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hmm

I was just thinking that who really is America's ally?

Israel? Britain? France? Germany? Japan?

Do you think any of these countries would care if America was to fall?

I have this feeling that all the countries in the WORLD want America to fall......... We have heard little murmurs of countries wanting to drop the Dollar as the reserve status...

I don't trust these so called allies.... I just feel that as soon as America is about to fall all these so called buddies will turn their backs.....

Even if we don't agree with the GOVT, do you LOVE your country?

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

flag waver
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


Lets not have this discussion!

Lets have a discussion about that we all live on this tiny planet racing trough space and we should work together because thats the only sane thing to do! And in basic we are all the same, we come from the same source.

So please, lets not have a discussion about things that seggregate us but about what brings us together!peace
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That's not what this thread is about. Your reaction isn't going to change the way the world views Americans. The world thinks shit of America and it's people. That's what this thread is about.
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This is great. I value all of your opinions. Even the ones that still use elementary hate tactics. What really entertains me is if I fly through this entire thread, I can spot out which people have been brainwashed by which source. That is a big part of the problem. Just imagine if we ALL knew the truth. Peace brothers and sisters. I am an American and I am proud. Those that hate, I sympathize because we are all products of some sort. One of our big problems now is that we are divided products, bread to oppose instead of compromise. Divided we fall. Those that want to see it, have a drink on us and watch the show. But those that don't want to see the U.S. fall, WILL PREVENT IT. Cheers.
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I also want to add that I've been to Europe, and all these so called allies actually hate us. They laugh at us. They mock us.

We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....

I mean ok, we are not perfect, but just imagine if we are fighting eachother before a collapse, what will happen DURING a collapse? Would we band together or would be just add to the destruction?
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***

That pretty much sums it up yeah.

I think it lacks ignorant. From our point of view (the netherlands) we mostly view Americans as hicks who aren't aware about 99% what is going on in the rest of the world, or just don't care.
We think that most Americans think that they are the worlds saviors. That every war that finished was won because of them.

I think that if something bad happend to America, there would not be much help from other countries. I think the consensus would be: "they had it coming".

I would try to help though, because that's what humans need to do for another, but I would understand why most people aren't really willing to.
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Thank you for agreeing. I think Americans need to be aware of these facts.
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


We are and we don't rightly give a fuck what they do. We can't change it. We have no control over someone elses opinion. They have been force fed the spoon of being told what to think. Why you're so busy pointing the finger at us like we're the devil, they are taking your liberty too. Have fun with your problems and we'll do the same with ours. I think you're more than capable of taking care of your own business. I don't think we're gods gift to the world. I think I want to live my fucking life on my terms without the world telling me a anything. I read about the good things countries do and marvel at it. I don't shoot it down or think we did it. I'm a little overweight but not by much. I'm older now and it's a given. I'm working on the ignorant part but life is all about learning. I hope to attain to your high values one day.

If I am too nice and want to peacefully co-exist, you take it as weakness. This means you think I have no backbone. If I stand up for myself you think I'm a dick. Well I'll be who I am and fuck it. I'll get personal satisfaction by being true to myself. You can't please everyone. Things you should think about. We all know you'll never invade or sit by as someone else does. That is because someone else with more sense will tell you what to do. You can think as low as you want about me. I can take it. Don't be crying when I do the same. Have a nice day.
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Hmm... I'd have to say.. as an American, I'm not an ally of America. Don't get me wrong.. I don't dislike Americans .. But I vehemently dislike the federal government and my state government. They are a bunch of rat finks that aught to be ran up a flag pole.

So I guess you would really have to look at it in two different ways. I'm an ally to the people (well, those who aren't trying to rob, rap, murder, pillage, convert me to some screwed up political belief etc)..> Def. consider myself an ally to those who love Liberty, Freedom and believe our Natural Rights are ours without question.

The fed gov't though.. Screw'em!
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Canada has a legitimate monetary system America douse not pease educate yourself about your own country



 
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869


You would post a young turks video, either way you have not proved that the canadian money system is back by any actual resource nor can you because you fabricated your statement.
 Quoting: PlasticDuck


[link to richinwriters.com]

in short NO Canadian money is not backed by gold however its still regulated by the Government.
 
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869


Which proves nothing but the fact you lied. you couldn't help the fact that I could prove my point and you had to try to cheat me out of that.

So once again, Americans are the most productive in the world. POINT PROVEN so just apologize for calling me a liar and be done with it, unless you want to continue fabricating.



"Canada prints its money but its backed by REAL GOLD it has REAL value. your money is created out of thin air by the Federal bank despite your county not having the gold to back up your paper moneys value."

This statement of yours is a lie! Proven.
 Quoting: PlasticDuck


I was not lieing I was misinformed. Still not the bs economy you guys have government regulating in Canada

Corporate regulation in America
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Hi,
Here is my 2 cents from a random french guy.
(Sorry for the bad english, I have made it with the help of google translator, I hope you will understand my respond)

The main problem with USA is not the People like you and me, we all want the same things, live in peace with each other, have a nice familly, food, health and happyness. The problem is the people in charge, politician, big company, secret societies etc...

Your gouvernement pretend to make law in the world, have very high moral values and be respectable etc.. Since the creation of hollywood, we, the rest of the world, eat your propaganda on a daily basis. When I was a kid I wanted to be american so badly, I mean, america is so cool man, and oh yeah, in america the good guys win at the end, that's how america works ! But since I'am able to think by myself I see that it was all a lie, what a deception. When I was young I wanted to go in america, see the fuckin new york, go to LA, but today, no way I put a foot on american soil.

Why? because the people in charge do the exact opposite, the only things they think it's to keep american supremacy at all cost. And if that mean hurting the world, well.. fuck the world ! In fact I think the worst enemy of the USA is the USA itself. The body is fine but it's head is sick.

Why the world hates you you ask. Because we are tired. We want to be you ally, not a stooge. We want to walk together and make the world a better place, not walking behind you to make the powerfull people in america be more powerfull when the world is starving. Being ally mean respect the opinion of others, not impose your selfish choices with a big "fuck you" to those who don't share the same feelings. And that's what america do for long time. With the USA it's "you are with us or you are our ennemy", the problem is, the world is not black and white, there is infinite shade of grey out there, and don't forget the colors.

Today america is not subtle, USA kick in the door, point a gun on your face and yell in your ears, and if you dont agree you gonna have a bad time, even if you are a long time friend.


We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....


Has a cheese eating surrender monkey I can say that's just a stereotype man, get over it, it doesn't mean nything at all.

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

What if your country IS the bad guy ? Will you fight to protect it anyway ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15834121


I will protect my family, home, friends, neighbors and country. I will fight for good. Even if the Govt is corrupt, this is still my home, my blood.
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haha classy, i hear USA is getting into the 20/20?
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LOL I don't follow USA Cricket. My mom is British so that is why I know about cricket and play. :P

I miss the good old cricket days of Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Shoaib Akthar, Glen Mcgrath, Brian Lara, Warne, etc...
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


... Ian Botham...

Do they play cricket in the USA at all?

Here's the IPL highlights [link to www.mycrickethighlights.com]
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Hi,
Here is my 2 cents from a random french guy.
(Sorry for the bad english, I have made it with the help of google translator, I hope you will understand my respond)

The main problem with USA is not the People like you and me, we all want the same things, live in peace with each other, have a nice familly, food, health and happyness. The problem is the people in charge, politician, big company, secret societies etc...

Your gouvernement pretend to make law in the world, have very high moral values and be respectable etc.. Since the creation of hollywood, we, the rest of the world, eat your propaganda on a daily basis. When I was a kid I wanted to be american so badly, I mean, america is so cool man, and oh yeah, in america the good guys win at the end, that's how america works ! But since I'am able to think by myself I see that it was all a lie, what a deception. When I was young I wanted to go in america, see the fuckin new york, go to LA, but today, no way I put a foot on american soil.

Why? because the people in charge do the exact opposite, the only things they think it's to keep american supremacy at all cost. And if that mean hurting the world, well.. fuck the world ! In fact I think the worst enemy of the USA is the USA itself. The body is fine but it's head is sick.

Why the world hates you you ask. Because we are tired. We want to be you ally, not a stooge. We want to walk together and make the world a better place, not walking behind you to make the powerfull people in america be more powerfull when the world is starving. Being ally mean respect the opinion of others, not impose your selfish choices with a big "fuck you" to those who don't share the same feelings. And that's what america do for long time. With the USA it's "you are with us or you are our ennemy", the problem is, the world is not black and white, there is infinite shade of grey out there, and don't forget the colors.

Today america is not subtle, USA kick in the door, point a gun on your face and yell in your ears, and if you dont agree you gonna have a bad time, even if you are a long time friend.


We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....


Has a cheese eating surrender monkey I can say that's just a stereotype man, get over it, it doesn't mean nything at all.

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

What if your country IS the bad guy ? Will you fight to protect it anyway ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15834121


I will protect my family, home, friends, neighbors and country. I will fight for good. Even if the Govt is corrupt, this is still my home, my blood.
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


Ok then you just plain stupid.

Who fight for a corrupt goverment?
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Hi,
Here is my 2 cents from a random french guy.
(Sorry for the bad english, I have made it with the help of google translator, I hope you will understand my respond)

The main problem with USA is not the People like you and me, we all want the same things, live in peace with each other, have a nice familly, food, health and happyness. The problem is the people in charge, politician, big company, secret societies etc...

Your gouvernement pretend to make law in the world, have very high moral values and be respectable etc.. Since the creation of hollywood, we, the rest of the world, eat your propaganda on a daily basis. When I was a kid I wanted to be american so badly, I mean, america is so cool man, and oh yeah, in america the good guys win at the end, that's how america works ! But since I'am able to think by myself I see that it was all a lie, what a deception. When I was young I wanted to go in america, see the fuckin new york, go to LA, but today, no way I put a foot on american soil.

Why? because the people in charge do the exact opposite, the only things they think it's to keep american supremacy at all cost. And if that mean hurting the world, well.. fuck the world ! In fact I think the worst enemy of the USA is the USA itself. The body is fine but it's head is sick.

Why the world hates you you ask. Because we are tired. We want to be you ally, not a stooge. We want to walk together and make the world a better place, not walking behind you to make the powerfull people in america be more powerfull when the world is starving. Being ally mean respect the opinion of others, not impose your selfish choices with a big "fuck you" to those who don't share the same feelings. And that's what america do for long time. With the USA it's "you are with us or you are our ennemy", the problem is, the world is not black and white, there is infinite shade of grey out there, and don't forget the colors.

Today america is not subtle, USA kick in the door, point a gun on your face and yell in your ears, and if you dont agree you gonna have a bad time, even if you are a long time friend.


We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....


Has a cheese eating surrender monkey I can say that's just a stereotype man, get over it, it doesn't mean nything at all.

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

What if your country IS the bad guy ? Will you fight to protect it anyway ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15834121

correct response french guy.....but americans staying in america dont know it yet....if they want to make friends with other countries they must stop activities of cia,non profit organizations and hollywood.it will save a civilization
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Hi,
Here is my 2 cents from a random french guy.
(Sorry for the bad english, I have made it with the help of google translator, I hope you will understand my respond)

The main problem with USA is not the People like you and me, we all want the same things, live in peace with each other, have a nice familly, food, health and happyness. The problem is the people in charge, politician, big company, secret societies etc...

Your gouvernement pretend to make law in the world, have very high moral values and be respectable etc.. Since the creation of hollywood, we, the rest of the world, eat your propaganda on a daily basis. When I was a kid I wanted to be american so badly, I mean, america is so cool man, and oh yeah, in america the good guys win at the end, that's how america works ! But since I'am able to think by myself I see that it was all a lie, what a deception. When I was young I wanted to go in america, see the fuckin new york, go to LA, but today, no way I put a foot on american soil.

Why? because the people in charge do the exact opposite, the only things they think it's to keep american supremacy at all cost. And if that mean hurting the world, well.. fuck the world ! In fact I think the worst enemy of the USA is the USA itself. The body is fine but it's head is sick.

Why the world hates you you ask. Because we are tired. We want to be you ally, not a stooge. We want to walk together and make the world a better place, not walking behind you to make the powerfull people in america be more powerfull when the world is starving. Being ally mean respect the opinion of others, not impose your selfish choices with a big "fuck you" to those who don't share the same feelings. And that's what america do for long time. With the USA it's "you are with us or you are our ennemy", the problem is, the world is not black and white, there is infinite shade of grey out there, and don't forget the colors.

Today america is not subtle, USA kick in the door, point a gun on your face and yell in your ears, and if you dont agree you gonna have a bad time, even if you are a long time friend.


We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....


Has a cheese eating surrender monkey I can say that's just a stereotype man, get over it, it doesn't mean nything at all.

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

What if your country IS the bad guy ? Will you fight to protect it anyway ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15834121


I will protect my family, home, friends, neighbors and country. I will fight for good. Even if the Govt is corrupt, this is still my home, my blood.
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


Ok then you just plain stupid.

Who fight for a corrupt goverment?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14117924


If my country is at a war on my homeland from foreign invaders I would protect my people. It's common sense.
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You would post a young turks video, either way you have not proved that the canadian money system is back by any actual resource nor can you because you fabricated your statement.
 Quoting: PlasticDuck


[link to richinwriters.com]

in short NO Canadian money is not backed by gold however its still regulated by the Government.
 
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869


Which proves nothing but the fact you lied. you couldn't help the fact that I could prove my point and you had to try to cheat me out of that.

So once again, Americans are the most productive in the world. POINT PROVEN so just apologize for calling me a liar and be done with it, unless you want to continue fabricating.



"Canada prints its money but its backed by REAL GOLD it has REAL value. your money is created out of thin air by the Federal bank despite your county not having the gold to back up your paper moneys value."

This statement of yours is a lie! Proven.
 Quoting: PlasticDuck


I was not lieing I was misinformed. Still not the bs economy you guys have government regulating in Canada

Corporate regulation in America
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14103869


Your statement was a lie that is a FACT! Just because you didn't know wtf you were talking about does not make it any less true.

Once again this has nothing to do with the fact that Americans are the most productive workers, so I think you owe me an apology for calling me a liar for stating that FACT.
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Hi,
Here is my 2 cents from a random french guy.
(Sorry for the bad english, I have made it with the help of google translator, I hope you will understand my respond)

The main problem with USA is not the People like you and me, we all want the same things, live in peace with each other, have a nice familly, food, health and happyness. The problem is the people in charge, politician, big company, secret societies etc...

Your gouvernement pretend to make law in the world, have very high moral values and be respectable etc.. Since the creation of hollywood, we, the rest of the world, eat your propaganda on a daily basis. When I was a kid I wanted to be american so badly, I mean, america is so cool man, and oh yeah, in america the good guys win at the end, that's how america works ! But since I'am able to think by myself I see that it was all a lie, what a deception. When I was young I wanted to go in america, see the fuckin new york, go to LA, but today, no way I put a foot on american soil.

Why? because the people in charge do the exact opposite, the only things they think it's to keep american supremacy at all cost. And if that mean hurting the world, well.. fuck the world ! In fact I think the worst enemy of the USA is the USA itself. The body is fine but it's head is sick.

Why the world hates you you ask. Because we are tired. We want to be you ally, not a stooge. We want to walk together and make the world a better place, not walking behind you to make the powerfull people in america be more powerfull when the world is starving. Being ally mean respect the opinion of others, not impose your selfish choices with a big "fuck you" to those who don't share the same feelings. And that's what america do for long time. With the USA it's "you are with us or you are our ennemy", the problem is, the world is not black and white, there is infinite shade of grey out there, and don't forget the colors.

Today america is not subtle, USA kick in the door, point a gun on your face and yell in your ears, and if you dont agree you gonna have a bad time, even if you are a long time friend.


We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....


Has a cheese eating surrender monkey I can say that's just a stereotype man, get over it, it doesn't mean nything at all.

I certainly do. And I will always fight to protect my country!

What if your country IS the bad guy ? Will you fight to protect it anyway ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15834121

correct response french guy.....but americans staying in america dont know it yet....if they want to make friends with other countries they must stop activities of cia,non profit organizations and hollywood.it will save a civilization
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8535511


The red cross is a non profit, should we stop them too?
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and that statement right there makes you a liar

[link to www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com]

FTA:

"Today, however, none of the major state currencies is officially backed by bullion (see GOLD STANDARD)."
 Quoting: PlasticDuck

Our money is Created by the Government its regulated and all currency has resources to back up its value America douse not have this. Its money is borrowed from a private company that lends out its money to the American government on interest. That money given douse not exist its nothing but an iou that only backing is that America will one day pay back the Federal bank + interest. In short the fed is lending out money they dont have but will have plus some once they are paid back.
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Prove your money is backed by anything and I will believe you, come on now you made me show proof, until you do I stand by my ground that you are a liar and fabricator, still ignoring the fact that I proved my point so either show me or admit your wrong AGAIN
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Canada has a legitimate monetary system America douse not pease educate yourself about your own country



 
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[link to actionparty.ca] *cough*
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I also want to add that I've been to Europe, and all these so called allies actually hate us. They laugh at us. They mock us.

We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....

I mean ok, we are not perfect, but just imagine if we are fighting eachother before a collapse, what will happen DURING a collapse? Would we band together or would be just add to the destruction?
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That pretty much sums it up yeah.

I think it lacks ignorant. From our point of view (the netherlands) we mostly view Americans as hicks who aren't aware about 99% what is going on in the rest of the world, or just don't care.
We think that most Americans think that they are the worlds saviors. That every war that finished was won because of them.

I think that if something bad happend to America, there would not be much help from other countries. I think the consensus would be: "they had it coming".

I would try to help though, because that's what humans need to do for another, but I would understand why most people aren't really willing to.
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Thank you for agreeing. I think Americans need to be aware of these facts.
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We are and we don't rightly give a fuck what they do. We can't change it. We have no control over someone elses opinion. They have been force fed the spoon of being told what to think. Why you're so busy pointing the finger at us like we're the devil, they are taking your liberty too. Have fun with your problems and we'll do the same with ours. I think you're more than capable of taking care of your own business. I don't think we're gods gift to the world. I think I want to live my fucking life on my terms without the world telling me a anything. I read about the good things countries do and marvel at it. I don't shoot it down or think we did it. I'm a little overweight but not by much. I'm older now and it's a given. I'm working on the ignorant part but life is all about learning. I hope to attain to your high values one day.

If I am too nice and want to peacefully co-exist, you take it as weakness. This means you think I have no backbone. If I stand up for myself you think I'm a dick. Well I'll be who I am and fuck it. I'll get personal satisfaction by being true to myself. You can't please everyone. Things you should think about. We all know you'll never invade or sit by as someone else does. That is because someone else with more sense will tell you what to do. You can think as low as you want about me. I can take it. Don't be crying when I do the same. Have a nice day.
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You didn't read that I stated my personal feeling at the end of my post did you?

"I would try to help though, because that's what humans need to do for another, but I would understand why most people aren't really willing to."

Your response is kinda the reponse one would think an American would give though.

I told you what people in the Netherlands think of Americans. It's not my personal opinion.

I also don't like the country I live in. I don't like our government. I give fuck all for our flag, our queen, our law. If war comes, I will fight for my friends, family and oppressed people.

So no, I will never fight for my country. I would only fight for the people.


You people say you love your country. What is your country?
How do you define the thing you love?

I love people, I love nature, I love culture. But that is not what defines the country you live in. The laws, the politicians, the atitude towards other countries. That is what defines your country. And I really, really dislike our country and practically all other countries as well.

If you go to war to another country like afghanistan or iraq, are you defending your country? Are you defending the people, the nature and culture of where you live? Or are you fighting for your politicians and their interests?
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I love Lithuania, but I never would go to fake gov's war.
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Dont know about those other countries but Australia is your strongest ally, we were the first country to support you in all the gulf wars. We have always been ready to help as you guys saved us in the second world war and we have not forgot it.
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They hate us sure, but they all have their hands out asking for our help when things go bad in their own country. I don't see any other country stand up and help others like America does.
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I also want to add that I've been to Europe, and all these so called allies actually hate us. They laugh at us. They mock us.

We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....

I mean ok, we are not perfect, but just imagine if we are fighting eachother before a collapse, what will happen DURING a collapse? Would we band together or would be just add to the destruction?
 Quoting: ***ClappaGuy***


Where in Europe you've been to?

You should know that most of your elders are or were Europeans.

So who does actually "hate" you?
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They hate us sure, but they all have their hands out asking for our help when things go bad in their own country. I don't see any other country stand up and help others like America does.
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The same way all other countries jump and bow to America's wishes and orders.
Need to go to die in Afghanistan, Iraq, attack Libya,...just name it.. no problemos Americanos! yessir
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We don't hate the people, just the ones in charge.

Nobody in the western world wants to see the original idea of the USA fail. I can assure you of that.

peace
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Absolutely!
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I also want to add that I've been to Europe, and all these so called allies actually hate us. They laugh at us. They mock us.

We are looked at as dumb, lazy, fat, ugly, spoiled, brainwashed, etc....

I mean ok, we are not perfect, but just imagine if we are fighting eachother before a collapse, what will happen DURING a collapse? Would we band together or would be just add to the destruction?
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im european,live in usa for quite some time now,my son is half american ...most of americans dont know nothing,put it that way,europeans are not better eather,but i have met some great smart people here who know a great deal.tesla being number 1,if you know who tesla is ,to me,you are worth my time and speaking to,if you dont then you're just fucking stupid and thats that.simple man i am.
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Nikola Tesla clappa

The Man was a genius!
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He was THE Genius
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Dont know about those other countries but Australia is your strongest ally, we were the first country to support you in all the gulf wars. We have always been ready to help as you guys saved us in the second world war and we have not forgot it.
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You disgust me
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They hate us sure, but they all have their hands out asking for our help when things go bad in their own country. I don't see any other country stand up and help others like America does.
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And that's why most other countries hate you. Nobody asks for your help, you enforce it.
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Dont know about those other countries but Australia is your strongest ally, we were the first country to support you in all the gulf wars. We have always been ready to help as you guys saved us in the second world war and we have not forgot it.
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Crikey!
Did that US cock fit firmly enough in your mouth?
Could you open up your anus wide enough to fit the US ego in there? Well done!
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Dont know about those other countries but Australia is your strongest ally, we were the first country to support you in all the gulf wars. We have always been ready to help as you guys saved us in the second world war and we have not forgot it.
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You disgust me
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Why because the guy shows some gratitude?

Just because you don't agree with him doesn't make him disgusting and I find your response to him repugnant.
"Some animals are created more equal than others" - Animal Farm
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Dont know about those other countries but Australia is your strongest ally, we were the first country to support you in all the gulf wars. We have always been ready to help as you guys saved us in the second world war and we have not forgot it.
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Crikey!
Did that US cock fit firmly enough in your mouth?
Could you open up your anus wide enough to fit the US ego in there? Well done!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7546264


The guy has a different opinion than you deal with it.

Did that pompous stick get crammed that far up your ass?
"Some animals are created more equal than others" - Animal Farm

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