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The future of the USA - 2012-2016: An insolvent and ungovernable United States!!

 
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[link to www.leap2020.eu]

In this issue, our team gives its anticipations regarding the future of the United States for the 2012-2016 period. We recall that since 2006 and the first GEAB issues, LEAP/E2020 described the global systemic crisis as a phenomenon characterizing the end of the world as we know it since 1945, marking the collapse of the American pillar on which this world order has rested for nearly seven decades. Since 2006, we had identified the period 2011-2013 as that during which the “Dollar Wall” on which the power of the United States sits would fall apart. Summer 2011, with the cut in the United States’ credit rating by S & P, marked an historic turning point and confirmed that the “impossible” (1) was indeed in the process of coming true. Therefore today, it seems essential to provide our subscribers with a clear anticipatory vision of what awaits the “pillar” of the world before the crisis at the point when the crisis moved into “top gear” in summer 2011 (2).

Thus, according to LEAP/E2020, the 2012 election year, which opens against the backdrop of economic and social depression, complete paralysis of the federal system (3), strong rejection of the traditional two-party system and a growing questioning of the relevance of the Constitution, inaugurates a crucial period in the history of the United States. Over the next four years, the country will be subjected to political, economic, financial and social upheaval such as it has not known since the end of the Civil War which, by an accident of history, started exactly 150 years ago in 1861. During this period, the US will be simultaneously insolvent and ungovernable, turning that which was the “flagship” of the world in recent decades into a “drunken boat”.

To make the complexity of the current process understandable, our team has chosen to organize its anticipations around three key areas:

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Leap 2020 is usually right on target with their predictions. This series is a real eye-opener. This link is to Part One, make sure to click through and read all 4 parts!

As if we didn't already know.....
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The US Flagship turns into a "drunken boat".... wow... truer words have never been spoken.

I speak to many of my friends over in the States and all I hear is how so many are alcoholics or on drugs. It's bad. I remember when I lived in the states and so many people I knew were on drugs of some sort.

One of my friends told me he knew someone that regularly sold cocaine to the sales guys at a reputable Dodge dealer. They did "coke" while they were working in the offices.

So, the reality is.... "like people, like govt" I guess. It all trickles down and up and just like Revelation says... "Babylon was a golden cup in the LORD's hand... but now it is filled with abominations.... Babylon makes all the nations drink of the 'maddening wine' of her adulteries..."

I find this "drunken boat" thing to be right on target, even if it's just a metaphor....
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Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
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The US Flagship turns into a "drunken boat".... wow... truer words have never been spoken.

I speak to many of my friends over in the States and all I hear is how so many are alcoholics or on drugs. It's bad. I remember when I lived in the states and so many people I knew were on drugs of some sort.

One of my friends told me he knew someone that regularly sold cocaine to the sales guys at a reputable Dodge dealer. They did "coke" while they were working in the offices.

So, the reality is.... "like people, like govt" I guess. It all trickles down and up and just like Revelation says... "Babylon was a golden cup in the LORD's hand... but now it is filled with abominations.... Babylon makes all the nations drink of the 'maddening wine' of her adulteries..."

I find this "drunken boat" thing to be right on target, even if it's just a metaphor....
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i as thinking about it today but those pessimistic news about usa is not completely true.
they do have very talented and isciplined people working very hard.if you forget politicians,ceos,bankers,feminists,stock brokers,govt workers,lawyers,communists,NGO owners,journalists,media workers;rest of the americas are very decent.
despite its tremendous social problems,americans have managed to educate its kids and they are still at top.
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Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
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usa is not going to go away....they will change
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535418


Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
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usa is not going to go away....they will change
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Let's hope so. I'm not feeling too good about that prospect at this moment though... gotta be honest.

Stuff is falling apart and social unrest seems to be looming on the horizon. It's going to be interesting to see how this summer plays out with it being election year and all the tensions in the middle east.

2001- Year of the Snake- symbol for Satan- 9/11
2012- Year of the Dragon- symbol for Satan- ????

Just a curious thing I thought of today.....

Who knows???
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535418


Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


usa is not going to go away....they will change
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Let's hope so. I'm not feeling too good about that prospect at this moment though... gotta be honest.

Stuff is falling apart and social unrest seems to be looming on the horizon. It's going to be interesting to see how this summer plays out with it being election year and all the tensions in the middle east.

2001- Year of the Snake- symbol for Satan- 9/11
2012- Year of the Dragon- symbol for Satan- ????

Just a curious thing I thought of today.....

Who knows???
 Quoting: Mr_Electric

you just dont know how americans work.once they see,observe and understand problem;it will be very swift solution.dont believe on msm or alternate sources.they are very disciplined country and once they want to change something,they will do it ....
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"During the 2000s, this permeability has completely disappeared against the background of growing ideological tensions, particularly at the initiative of the Republican Party and its constituent parts, ultra-religious, anti-tax and now anti-federal government."

Go Ron Paul!!!

Yeah, I'm a Paultard. He might be the only chance to rock the boat out of it's "drunken stupor".

Plus, he's my third or forth cousin on my mother's side, so I'm a big supporter of family. ;)
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you just dont know how americans work.once they see,observe and understand problem;it will be very swift solution.dont believe on msm or alternate sources.they are very disciplined country and once they want to change something,they will do it ....
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Yeah but DO THEY WANT to?? What is the true agenda? It's all mixed up in a haze of no confidence and conspiracy. Only time will tell....
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***Sticks up thumbs****

AAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy!!!

Fonz would have a hard time saying...

s...sssss.. soooo.... ssssoorruh...

Ah, never mind!! LOL
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you just dont know how americans work.once they see,observe and understand problem;it will be very swift solution.dont believe on msm or alternate sources.they are very disciplined country and once they want to change something,they will do it ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7215072


Yeah but DO THEY WANT to?? What is the true agenda? It's all mixed up in a haze of no confidence and conspiracy. Only time will tell....
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


time will decide that
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damn, I am tired of waiting
let's get this freak show
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Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
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China could be the next Nazi leading to major regional war or world war.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
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Lots of good fodder in this LEAP 2020 article. Here's another excerpt of interest... what's up with this????

"Our team, like many observers of US politics for that matter, has already identified one of the possible candidates for this role of “savior of the Nation”: General David Petraeus. Besides his name that sounds like a Roman governor, he behaved as such during his term as head of the US Armed Forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many are the soldiers, diplomats, and other federal bureaucrats who would like to see a man of this “calibre” restore order in the country and an unquestionable federal state in command. The fans of order (11), for the rest love uniforms."

LEAP 2020 is a Global European Anticipation Bulletin, by the way.....
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535418


Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


China could be the next Nazi leading to major regional war or world war.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


there wont be war.china will win without any war...
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Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


China could be the next Nazi leading to major regional war or world war.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


China is definitely a MAJOR MAJOR player in how all this is going to turn out. But can they become THE world power just by holding America's debt?

It would seem the only way out would be a war and unless China can boat their 200 million man army to the US, they don't have the technology within their military to win.... such as subs, ships, air force etc...

Now, man to man on the ground.... they could lose 10 soldiers to our one and still come out on top. But where would this take place? The valley of Megiddo??
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you just dont know how americans work.once they see,observe and understand problem;it will be very swift solution.dont believe on msm or alternate sources.they are very disciplined country and once they want to change something,they will do it ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7215072


Yeah but DO THEY WANT to?? What is the true agenda? It's all mixed up in a haze of no confidence and conspiracy. Only time will tell....
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


time will decide that
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Nothing will change without some real pain, the people have not felt real pain yet. Most have ok jobs and are getting along ok while others are on the GOV tit and are scamming the system … the real question is when is the breaking point?
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Just relax and and have one of these pretty girls give you a free Monster drink - [link to www.flickr.com]

You can't change what is about to happen. Just be thankful for the time you had when America was great.
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Unfortunately, the drunker we get the deeper into denial much of the American public sinks.
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you just dont know how americans work.once they see,observe and understand problem;it will be very swift solution.dont believe on msm or alternate sources.they are very disciplined country and once they want to change something,they will do it ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7215072


Yeah but DO THEY WANT to?? What is the true agenda? It's all mixed up in a haze of no confidence and conspiracy. Only time will tell....
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


time will decide that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7215072


Nothing will change without some real pain, the people have not felt real pain yet. Most have ok jobs and are getting along ok while others are on the GOV tit and are scamming the system … the real question is when is the breaking point?
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pain will be felt only when people dont get food and entertainment.you have surplus of both.so at this time atleast,nothing will happen
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damn, I am tired of waiting
let's get this freak show
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sometime after the election I suspect they'll let this sucker collapse...
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you just dont know how americans work.once they see,observe and understand problem;it will be very swift solution.dont believe on msm or alternate sources.they are very disciplined country and once they want to change something,they will do it ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7215072


Yeah but DO THEY WANT to?? What is the true agenda? It's all mixed up in a haze of no confidence and conspiracy. Only time will tell....
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


time will decide that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7215072


Nothing will change without some real pain, the people have not felt real pain yet. Most have ok jobs and are getting along ok while others are on the GOV tit and are scamming the system … the real question is when is the breaking point?
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VERY astute observation! When IS the breaking point? Where does it break? Why does everything seem to be moving in that direction... i.e. getting worse?

Is it just something that is "happening"... or is it orchestrated?

What is the goal? Why? Is it that the American people are the really the only ones left that resist world government?

Is there a spiritual component to all of this?

These are the questions I ponder....
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Just drop the hammer. We're all ready to work to change.
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So the soviets won?
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I get a lot of wisdom from Biblical text. Here's a couple of excerpts that make me think....

Amo 6:3 You put off the evil day and bring near a reign of terror.

Isa 5:19 Woe to those who say, "Let God hurry, let him hasten his work so we may see it. Let it approach, let the plan of the Holy One of Israel come, so we may know it."

Maybe they WANT to force God's hand, to see what He will do. Maybe they hold off the end times and try to prolong it for a reason.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Maybe it's to wear people down. To wear them out mentally, physically and spiritually to reduce resistance to the coming world order.

Just some thoughts.....
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535418


Might be a big "hooray" from some people, but even if the US is so evil, what is the post-American alternative? Could be even more evil and scarier....

Does anyone want Russia or China to be the new world Policeman??
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


China could be the next Nazi leading to major regional war or world war.

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


China is definitely a MAJOR MAJOR player in how all this is going to turn out. But can they become THE world power just by holding America's debt?

It would seem the only way out would be a war and unless China can boat their 200 million man army to the US, they don't have the technology within their military to win.... such as subs, ships, air force etc...

Now, man to man on the ground.... they could lose 10 soldiers to our one and still come out on top. But where would this take place? The valley of Megiddo??
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


China is getting there. How quickly their military catches up to USA level is probably the key. Then there's plan for China to build their own city in USA... [link to endoftheamericandream.com] that could be a Trojan Horse. Who knows?

Also, Obama (and Democrat Party) don't seem to care much for maintaining a strong US military so if Obama wins 2012 election, US military could weaken significantly.
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Just drop the hammer. We're all ready to work to change.
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Jer 50:23 How broken and shattered is the hammer of the whole earth! How desolate is Babylon among the nations!

I'm of the opinion that America IS the "Daughter of Babylon" in prophecy. It fits the description to a tee. Read Jeremiah 50-51.

Regardless of how you feel about biblical text, you have to at least see the obvious parallels.
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China is getting there. How quickly their military catches up to USA level is probably the key. Then there's plan for China to build their own city in USA... [link to endoftheamericandream.com] that could be a Trojan Horse. Who knows?

Also, Obama (and Democrat Party) don't seem to care much for maintaining a strong US military so if Obama wins 2012 election, US military could weaken significantly.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


From Jeremiah 5.... Gotta admit it fits the bill. Notice the bolded text. "IN a land NOT YOUR OWN" does not mean the people will be RELOCATED, it could very well mean that the land that was their own was BOUGHT and now it's NOT their land anymore!!

14 Therefore this is what the LORD God Almighty says:

“Because the people have spoken these words,
I will make my words in your mouth a fire
and these people the wood it consumes.
15 O house of Israel,” declares the LORD,
“I am bringing a distant nation against you—
an ancient and enduring nation,
a people whose language you do not know,
whose speech you do not understand.
16 Their quivers are like an open grave;
all of them are mighty warriors.
17 They will devour your harvests and food,
devour your sons and daughters;
they will devour your flocks and herds,
devour your vines and fig trees.
With the sword they will destroy
the fortified cities in which you trust.

18 “Yet even in those days,” declares the LORD, “I will not destroy you completely. 19 And when the people ask, ‘Why has the LORD our God done all this to us?’ you will tell them, ‘As you have forsaken me and served foreign gods in your own land, so now you will serve foreigners in a land not your own.’

Again, more food for thought.....
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there'll be nothing left but a smoking ruin....

location will be everything....





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