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msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012

 
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Can the GLP telescope see through Neptune or what bro?
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GLP has a telescope?!!
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Oh it just floated over from another solar system...ho hum...
(end sarcasm)
WTF.. what else is just gonna float on over?
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Have u ever heard of a WIMP...wondering immensely massive planetoid
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Yes, it was quite the hilarious April Fool's joke. Doubly so when Volar fell for it and thought it was real.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
ERRR I POSTED THIS FIRST ARGGG!!!!!!!!!-_-redface
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
"Other space scientists say Gomes' findings may be a lot of hot air and aren't sure his calculations support his theory."
from the article....
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
[link to now.msn.com]
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Wow so any old jackass can come out and say there is some other planet and all you assholes fall for it. Get a life.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. headline on msn.com, 5/14/12!!!!

[link to now.msn.com]
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Why does the media have a problem calling a spade a spade? It's a battle star, plain and simple.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
'It has already been found and its orbit identified. Google: "Vulcan Revealed"

Its half as big as Jupiter and in a 4969 year orbit around the Sun.

It is now about 444 AU away.'


hmm
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
same ol bullshit,find something else.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Since this one got pinned, I may as well copy my reply in here.

It sounds like a johnny-come-lately to the Tyche hypothesis. Make the hypothetical planet Neptune mass an 1500 AUs instead of several Jupiter masses at 15000 AUs, hypothesize that it's the cause for eccentric kuiper belt objects instead of oort cloud objects, and presto, a new theory you can attach your name to.

Gomes' own earlier research suggested a more prosaic explanation for the eccentric orbits of Kuiper belt objects by the migration of the gas giants during the early solar system at the time when Saturn fell into a 2:1 orbital resonance with Jupiter.
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

It makes sense though; it's a conference, so whether he's right or wrong, he's garnered a good bit of media attention very quickly without even having to get published. If he's right, he'll be set for life just with television appearances and speaking engagements about the discovery. Even if he's wrong people will soon forget about the conference and he doesn't have to mention it in his list of publications. If an undiscovered planetary mass object is out there though, he's essentially made a bet with Matese and Whitmire to see who can get the closest to the true parameters of the object, but without having to stake as much of his reputation on it. Brilliant, actually.

More precisely, he's simply betting that the Tyche theory is wrong; the WISE data is now all released, and the initial results last year based on the first release of the data did not show any promising candidate objects. If Matese fails to find his hypothetical object in the WISE data, Gomes has already claimed the territory of the next hard-to-find hypothetical planet, a much lower mass object orbiting farther than the Kuiper belt but closer than the Oort cloud.

The title of the MSN now article is shit though. It doesn't say it could be "hiding behind Neptune." Makes it sound like there's literally a planet magically hiding directly behind the planet Neptune and it sounds like whoever wrote that didn't understand what was being presented. The hypothetical planet is thought to be many AUs from Neptune and could hypothetically be anywhere in the sky. What they should have said is "farther than" Neptune, not "hiding behind."
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You know man, you get a bad rap around here sometimes and I can't quite figure out why. Maybe it's because you actually know what you are talking about? Perhaps it's that you rain on someone's doom parade?

Great explanation and thanks for being here to clear these misconceptions.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Here's the article :
Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune
6 hrs ago
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Does Earth have a new friend? An astrophysicist says it's likely that an as-yet undiscovered planet exists on the dark fringes of our solar system, messing with the orbits of celestial bodies in the Kuiper Belt, just beyond Neptune. Rodney Gomes says the new planet could be anywhere from half to four times the size of Earth and is likely a rogue planet that floated over from another solar system. Other space scientists say Gomes' findings may be a lot of hot air and aren't sure his calculations support his theory. Buzzkills. We already lost Pluto. Stop playing with our hearts. Give us the new guy.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Article on research which msn links to.

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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New Planet Found in Our Solar System?

An as yet undiscovered planet might be orbiting at the dark fringes of the solar system, according to new research.

Seriously how many of these things are they all going to publish?
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
ERRR I POSTED THIS FIRST ARGGG!!!!!!!!!-_-redface
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Don't you hate when that happens?
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I sure as hell do, I'm mad! grumpy2
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It's a conspiracy, forgot to include the bribery payment JUST KIDDING.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
remember that one specific crop circle which had all the planets in the correct position for 2012 but it also shows 3 others planets/disc moving into our solar system from the edge.... that crop circle has always stuck in my mind....
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Are you serious?! You need to check out these visions/dreams this guy had. He had three visions/dreams of celestial bodies. Its on theappearance.com. check them out under the dreams and visions section.

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Status has changed from a rogue planet to a terrorist planet. Try to remain calm.
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Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. headline on msn.com, 5/14/12!!!!

[link to now.msn.com]
 Quoting: Digital mix guy


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theres a movie called melancholia which is banned in the states u guys should see
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rofl I have seen it twice and I highly doubt it is banned in the US.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Oh it just floated over from another solar system...ho hum...
(end sarcasm)
WTF.. what else is just gonna float on over?
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Have u ever heard of a WIMP...wondering immensely massive planetoid
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Yes, it was quite the hilarious April Fool's joke. Doubly so when Volar fell for it and thought it was real.
[link to www.science20.com]
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I lost it at the escape unit!

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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Rodney Gomes, an astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro.


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anyone know how to say 'I LIVE TO SERVE' in sumerian?
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:)
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Nibiru!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dear God!!!! They were right!!!!wtf
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Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. headline on msn.com, 5/14/12!!!!

[link to now.msn.com]
 Quoting: Digital mix guy


Well, if it's next to Uranus, maybe they should call it Urpenis or Urcunt.

Lol
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
Richard A. Lovett in Timberline Lodge, Oregon
for National Geographic News
Published May 11, 2012

An as yet undiscovered planet might be orbiting at the dark fringes of thesolar system, according to new research.

Too far out to be easily spotted by telescopes, the potential unseen planet appears to be making its presence felt by disturbing the orbits of so-called Kuiper belt objects, said Rodney Gomes, an astronomer at the National Observatory of Brazil in Rio de Janeiro.

Kuiper belt objects are small icy bodies—including some dwarf planets—that lie beyond the orbit of Neptune.

Once considered the ninth planet in our system, the dwarf planet Pluto, for example, is one of the largest Kuiper belt objects, at about 1,400 miles (2,300 kilometers) wide. Dozens of the other objects are hundreds of miles across, and more are being discovered every year.

(See "Three New 'Plutos'? Possible Dwarf Planets Found.")

What's intriguing, Gomes said, is that, according to his new calculations, about a half dozen Kuiper belt objects—including the remote body known as Sedna—are in strange orbits compared to where they should be, based on existing solar system models. (Related: "Pluto Neighbor Gets Downsized.")

The objects' unexpected orbits have a few possible explanations, said Gomes, who presented his findings Tuesday at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Timberline Lodge, Oregon.

"But I think the easiest one is a planetary-mass solar companion"—a planet that orbits very far out from the sun but that's massive enough to be having gravitational effects on Kuiper belt objects.

Mystery Planet a Captured Rogue?

For the new work, Gomes analyzed the orbits of 92 Kuiper belt objects, then compared his results to computer models of how the bodies should be distributed, with and without an additional planet.

If there's no distant world, Gomes concludes, the models don't produce the highly elongated orbits we see for six of the objects.

How big exactly the planetary body might be isn't clear, but there are a lot of possibilities, Gomes added.

Based on his calculations, Gomes thinks a Neptune-size world, about four times bigger than Earth, orbiting 140 billion miles (225 billion kilometers) away from the sun—about 1,500 times farther than Earth—would do the trick.

Read more at national geographic here: news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/05/120511-new-planet-so​lar-system-kuiper-belt-space-science/?source=link_tw20120513n​ews-solarsystem
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theres a movie called melancholia which is banned in the states u guys should see
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Snooze alert for Melancholia. The best part was the last twenty seconds. Everything else was such a bore.
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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
So when the MSM finally starts admitting all this, you know we're close to some serious shit.

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Re: msn.com: Secret rogue planet may be hiding behind Neptune. May 14, 2012
"Other space scientists say Gomes' findings may be a lot of hot air and aren't sure his calculations support his theory. "





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