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Physicist: Fukushima Unit 2 Has 100% liquification, Never Seen Before In Nulclear Physics

 
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Erm...

Ok. So we entomb it to keep the flow of radiation down, but what about putting something under it to stop it from reaching the water table? So far, I haven't heard that this is possible. We are 25 years after the Chernobyl disaster and that was is capped and still burning happily on its merry way to the water table.

How do we stop the downward threat?
 Quoting: Éireann


Nothing can be done about the downward threat. Nothing. And even if there were, a cap on top should not interfere.

But the prime hazard to humans are the gasses and particles that are leaving from the surface, and there IS something that can be done about that.
 Quoting: ehecatl


E. is absolutely correct. Why is it not being done immediately?

A reinforced dome with controlled venting into depressurizing decontamination systems in the event of thermal steam ejection to minimize air contamination.

This would give us some time to develop new technology to deal with the corium.

If they had started doing this a year ago we'd be well on the way to a permanent solution.

Instead, the priorities have been to hide the details of the situation from the world.

What a bunch of fucktards we have in control. They should be kicked square in the ass.. then, 30 days in the electric chair.

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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

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500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!

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If the core is liquid and that liquid can follow a stream-like path to Earth's aquifer which would then pollute the potable water supply does this reinforce Revelation's prediction of 'dead' water? If the water is polluted to undrinkable and the life within that water becomes inedible then truly we must put more stock in Biblical teachings. I guess it really is time to stock up on food & water.
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STFU - get these religitards OFF here
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all this possible danger and what do we get....what?
we do not get lots of electricity from the reaction.
no do you know what we get?
heat...that is all. just heat to boil water to make freaking steam.....
then that stream can turn a turbin and rotate a generator.

so all this is to just turn a run of the mill turbin generator.

what about using the tides.
or maybe bring up cold water from the bottom of the oceam and use the falling cold water to turn the turbin.
both are not new ideas...and are in use in hawaii and have been for over 3 decades!

FFS japan sits on a valcano! GEO-thermal. guess what it been in use in Hawaii as well...
with the current solar pannel PV solar in only at 35% of what it could be.

why do we need to use such highly volatile matter just to make freaking STEAM?
any takers???
anyone?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$​$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$​$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$​$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

get this picture!
 Quoting: psyoptics



I'm sure i read YOU suggest in previous threads we (the world )get rid on Nuclear energy?

Why?

Why have you failed to take into account the advancement of reactor design since the original Fukushima design concept from 40 years ago?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16092064


This is the way City and Industrial based people think.

The fact is, is that the city people could all die off and the rural people would go on living just fine. But the city people cannot survive without the rural people.

This I tell you. There are people who live perfectly happy lives, nay... I say happier lives, who live rurally and would never need to justify nuclear power.

FAAAAARRRR better no power at all, than nuclear power. But it really is not like that. This is all backhanded pressure from the military establishment for the production of weapons.

Nuclear Plants cost far more to build maintain and decommission than they ever earn in electricity.

Alternative sources work best on the site of the end user for the most part, and that is how power production should be primarily, but TPTB want the masses to all be buying their electricity from the central source. That way they can all get their cut and maintain an iron grip on the power.

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 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy:


your shilling days are just about over on this forum.
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 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy:


your shilling days are just about over on this forum.
 Quoting: ~Jay~



For saying what i think?

This is poor and i am proud!

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there has been a lot of money and effort of sway everyone to use NNP through out the world.
would this be for the good of the world....or....
the make money. mining procsessing and the control of the electrical current.
we in the 1960 had the chance to go over the solar...but it became clear the control of current would be lost.
so all reseach into solar was almost stopped.

look



watch how Bert can stay safe from radiation. and look he is smiling!






this all started back in the 1950's

alot of money has been spent on the image.
and it seems only the image is where the money went.
R&D...who needs that the modle worked just keep making them and let the PR department lose.

well here we are in 2012.....how did it workout for them $$$$$
how did it workout for US...not so good.

just think if the PR money went to R&D on things like solar?

or even thing our minds did not get the chance to think up?????
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy


YOUR ARTICLE: ''Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.''

this is basically saying they are going to leave you to ROT

cruise
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy


YOUR ARTICLE: ''Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.''

this is basically saying they are going to leave you to ROT

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16091994



I am reading something different,
i read that we really don't know what's happen to a Life Form!

But before spending more Time i need to see
what this Threat from this Mod mean!
G.Y.!B.E.
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all this possible danger and what do we get....what?
we do not get lots of electricity from the reaction.
no do you know what we get?
heat...that is all. just heat to boil water to make freaking steam.....
then that stream can turn a turbin and rotate a generator.

so all this is to just turn a run of the mill turbin generator.

what about using the tides.
or maybe bring up cold water from the bottom of the oceam and use the falling cold water to turn the turbin.
both are not new ideas...and are in use in hawaii and have been for over 3 decades!

FFS japan sits on a valcano! GEO-thermal. guess what it been in use in Hawaii as well...
with the current solar pannel PV solar in only at 35% of what it could be.

why do we need to use such highly volatile matter just to make freaking STEAM?
any takers???
anyone?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$​$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$​$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$​$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

get this picture!
 Quoting: psyoptics



I'm sure i read YOU suggest in previous threads we (the world )get rid on Nuclear energy?

Why?

Why have you failed to take into account the advancement of reactor design since the original Fukushima design concept from 40 years ago?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16092064


This is the way City and Industrial based people think.

The fact is, is that the city people could all die off and the rural people would go on living just fine. But the city people cannot survive without the rural people.

This I tell you. There are people who live perfectly happy lives, nay... I say happier lives, who live rurally and would never need to justify nuclear power.

FAAAAARRRR better no power at all, than nuclear power. But it really is not like that. This is all backhanded pressure from the military establishment for the production of weapons.

Nuclear Plants cost far more to build maintain and decommission than they ever earn in electricity.

Alternative sources work best on the site of the end user for the most part, and that is how power production should be primarily, but TPTB want the masses to all be buying their electricity from the central source. That way they can all get their cut and maintain an iron grip on the power.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Hello from brooklyn here the third largest city in the world.
live everyday with a NPP in my backyard!
i think about it.
it is always in the news.
i also live on an island. i have only limmited ways to excape...me and several million others.

i also know we live by a river.. a tidal river with one of the strongest currents in the world.
has this ever been tapped? no.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy


YOUR ARTICLE: ''Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.''

this is basically saying they are going to leave you to ROT

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16091994



I am reading something different,
i read that we really don't know what's happen to a Life Form!

But before spending more Time i need to see
what this Threat from this Mod mean!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy


lol no threat just the truth.
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Mice are Mammals like Human, you non educated Something,
there are not Ants and they are not Cockroaches!


I never saw "Mythbusters" but they sounds, hmmmm, bad- yes, BAD!
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...


Doubtful!

Already since the found of Radiation here in Setagaya-Ward
in the last Year (Supermarket and in a old House)
i see this findings with a different Eye,
we can't and we should not conclude something
without a real Analysis and she is missing here!

PS; Fuku Nr. 4 is boiling?
11.10pm
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

nice change in name...hope it true....


remember the other thread about the FOIA release...the US government turning off the sensors...
these are the reading we need. the ones WE the people ..from all over the world have paid for...the ones we thought were made by the real smart ones! these are the reading that will set all this straight.

i have to go with A B here....and even his readings can not be used to sway in either direction.
do not believe a youtube video to make a live changing choice. YT is just for fun.

there is no accountablity held on anyone's YT account.
truth...lies...
we needed our governments 1 year ago and they all...every last country on the planet...they all have let us down.
this is truely sad.
 Quoting: psyoptics


Triple nuclear reactor meltdown uncontrolled, uncontained and unstoppable... No one disputes it. Even tepco admits it, finally.

What else does anyone need to know?

The rest of it is merely details and who gives a shit whether a youtube or a blog or a news source is valid.

Doesn't matter.

If you're waiting for instructions from tepco-boy or your local friendly civil-servant, you may have to wait a long time.

~
wb
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Is this an ELE?

How long before we see amassive die off if the human race?

Thanks! 5a
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You're a sick person. U thrive off of people dieing. Take ur pill and get back to the ward douchebag.
Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today.

"I can do all things through Christ, which strengthens me." Philippians 4:13
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lol no threat just the truth.
 Quoting: ~Jay~


I never ever followed any Agenda,
i got not paid by anyone and i never Shilled for anything!

When you want to ban me for what i am saying please do it,
i would be proud to get banned for this!


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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575

I suppose many will dislike what I'm going to say; but, I've been paying attention to this "event" since the beginning and have read almost every post from just about every one for over a year. I do not believe Atom Boy is a Shill - I think he is trying to make sense of this - like many of us and nothing more. tomato
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Mice are Mammals like Human, you non educated Something,
there are not Ants and they are not Cockroaches!


I never saw "Mythbusters" but they sounds, hmmmm, bad- yes, BAD!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy


YOUR LOGIC IS FLAWED. THEIR RADIATION TOLLERNCES VARY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM HUMANS.
AS FOR ANTS, THEY CAN EASILY SURVIVE A NUCLEAR WINTER THAT WOUDL KILL ALL HUMAN LIFE.
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


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500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575

I suppose many will dislike what I'm going to say; but, I've been paying attention to this "event" since the beginning and have read almost every post from just about every one for over a year. I do not believe Atom Boy is a Shill - I think he is trying to make sense of this - like many of us and nothing more. tomato
 Quoting: JDSGUAM 2103460


Why dont you move up to Japan then?. I mean if its so safe as Atom Shill says.

Dont you like Urban industrialized areas? nice luxary nuclear power plants and modernized transport?
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A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.


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500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Mice are Mammals like Human, you non educated Something,
there are not Ants and they are not Cockroaches!


I never saw "Mythbusters" but they sounds, hmmmm, bad- yes, BAD!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy


YOUR LOGIC IS FLAWED. THEIR RADIATION TOLLERNCES VARY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM HUMANS.
AS FOR ANTS, THEY CAN EASILY SURVIVE A NUCLEAR WINTER THAT WOUDL KILL ALL HUMAN LIFE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


You see, you know nothing about how this Tests are working!

Mouses are just the first Steps because they are high and well develop, they have a Spine and 4 Legs and Hands +
their Reproductions Cycle is very quick!

The next Step would be Monkeys.

They don't test Humans (normally)

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Thank You and Arigato Gozaimasu!

This is it, i am here and not Thousands of Miles away.
It is logical that we here develop a different Method
how we handle this permanent Danger from F'Shima!

I am not native in English but i try to make my Point clear!

Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 05/15/2012 12:27 PM
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.

The study, led by Bevin Engelward and Jacquelyn Yanch and published in the journal Environmental Health Perspectives, found that when mice were exposed to radiation doses about 400 times greater than background levels for five weeks, no DNA damage could be detected.

Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.

“There are no data that say that’s a dangerous level,” says Yanch, a senior lecturer in MIT’s Department of Nuclear Science and Engineering. “This paper shows that you could go 400 times higher than average background levels and you’re still not detecting genetic damage. It could potentially have a big impact on tens if not hundreds of thousands of people in the vicinity of a nuclear powerplant accident or a nuclear bomb detonation, if we figure out just when we should evacuate and when it’s OK to stay where we are.”

Until now, very few studies have measured the effects of low doses of radiation delivered over a long period of time. This study is the first to measure the genetic damage seen at a level as low as 400 times background (0.0002 centigray per minute, or 105 cGy in a year).

“Almost all radiation studies are done with one quick hit of radiation. That would cause a totally different biological outcome compared to long-term conditions,” says Engelward, an associate professor of biological engineering at MIT.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575

I suppose many will dislike what I'm going to say; but, I've been paying attention to this "event" since the beginning and have read almost every post from just about every one for over a year. I do not believe Atom Boy is a Shill - I think he is trying to make sense of this - like many of us and nothing more. tomato
 Quoting: JDSGUAM 2103460


Why dont you move up to Japan then?. I mean if its so safe as Atom Shill says.

Dont you like Urban industrialized areas? nice luxary nuclear power plants and modernized transport?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575

You did look/notice where I'm from right? Industrialized? Ha Ha Ha....
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YOUR ARTICLE: ''Current U.S. regulations require that residents of any area that reaches radiation levels eight times higher than background should be evacuated. However, the financial and emotional cost of such relocation may not be worthwhile, the researchers say.''

this is basically saying they are going to leave you to ROT

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16091994

Large modern city regions simply cannot be evacuated, and indeed a government might even deny the rights of its people to emigrate in cases of wide spread and chronic danger. Someone needs to continue to operate the nuclear plants for one thing. For those who do emigrate, reception countries will continue to exist, but the price to pay to get in may go up.
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A new look at prolonged radiation exposure
A new study from MIT scientists suggests that the guidelines governments use to determine when to evacuate people following a nuclear accident may be too conservative.


Please read the whole Article before you start your childish Dissing tounge

[link to web.mit.edu]

500 Times Background-Level for 5 Weeks and Nada!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

MICE ARE NOT HUMANS, FUCKTARD.. NOR ARE THERE RADIATION TOLARANCES THE SAME AS HUMANS,,, JUST LIKE COCKROACHES OR ANTS WHICH CAN SURVIVE GREATER AMOUNTS. THIS HAS EVEN BEEN ADMITTED AND TESTED ON MAINSTREAM TV SHOW , MYTHBUSTERS.


ITS NO SUPRISE THAT THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT AND PRO NUCLEAR EVIL SHILLS WANT TO RAISE THE LEVELS WE CAN RECIEVE. SIMPLY TO TAKE SOME PRESSURE AWAY FROM THEIR NUCLEAR WORK.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Mice are Mammals like Human, you non educated Something,
there are not Ants and they are not Cockroaches!


I never saw "Mythbusters" but they sounds, hmmmm, bad- yes, BAD!
 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy

WOW AB
mythbusters...bad.
these guys only deal in science...fact and the shows ares their experiments....only facts just proof and facts.
and if anyone questions their findings....do they say STFU...no
they will revisit the experiment with the new point of view.
these guy are not actors...
and way smart.
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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I'm sure i read YOU suggest in previous threads we (the world )get rid on Nuclear energy?

Why?

Why have you failed to take into account the advancement of reactor design since the original Fukushima design concept from 40 years ago?
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How many nuke plants are there in Australia? Just curious.
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lol no threat just the truth.
 Quoting: ~Jay~


I never ever followed any Agenda,
i got not paid by anyone and i never Shilled for anything!

When you want to ban me for what i am saying please do it,
i would be proud to get banned for this!

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i never said anything about banning you. silly shill
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YEs you're down in GUAM a tropical paradise! yes a few hotels and tourism, but your nice and out of the way arent you./

A great place to support the pro nuclear shills from. because you know that your own little habbitat will be largely untouched by the winds from Japan.
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here is the show about the bugs

opps sorry......
just fire fun


here is the real show


Last Edited by psyoptics on 05/15/2012 12:42 PM
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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YEs you're down in GUAM a tropical paradise! yes a few hotels and tourism, but your nice and out of the way arent you./

A great place to support the pro nuclear shills from. because you know that your own little habbitat will be largely untouched by the winds from Japan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Really? You know so much about our island? Our entire economy depends on Japan Tourism and much of our food source comes from the same waters. I don't support shills in any form; but, I don't believe this guy is one. I just think he is trying to make sense of this b.s. like the rest of us.

If you look back a year or so ago... I was so pissed off - I was called a racist. Strange as that is to me.

I only think folks that don't live in this region should take a moment to listen to those that DO live in this region.

Japan, Guam and the rest of us are freaking out; but, trying to make sense of it - trying to understand - trying to cope.
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lol no threat just the truth.
 Quoting: ~Jay~


I never ever followed any Agenda,
i got not paid by anyone and i never Shilled for anything!

When you want to ban me for what i am saying please do it,
i would be proud to get banned for this!

 Quoting: the Non-Shilling Atom-Boy


i never said anything about banning you. silly shill
 Quoting: ~Jay~


Silly Mod tomato
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By my calculations, Fukushima should just melt itself deep down into the earth at some point (in 2012, of course), upsetting a fault which then causes a better part of Japan to sink into the ocean...

The Earth's air will be spared, but the wave produced by Japan sinking...well...never mind.
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You did not calculate shit,, You just opened your mouth and spoke out your ass..
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YEs you're down in GUAM a tropical paradise! yes a few hotels and tourism, but your nice and out of the way arent you./

A great place to support the pro nuclear shills from. because you know that your own little habbitat will be largely untouched by the winds from Japan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


Really? You know so much about our island? Our entire economy depends on Japan Tourism and much of our food source comes from the same waters. I don't support shills in any form; but, I don't believe this guy is one. I just think he is trying to make sense of this b.s. like the rest of us.

If you look back a year or so ago... I was so pissed off - I was called a racist. Strange as that is to me.

I only think folks that don't live in this region should take a moment to listen to those that DO live in this region.

Japan, Guam and the rest of us are freaking out; but, trying to make sense of it - trying to understand - trying to cope.
 Quoting: JDSGUAM 2103460


Okay... got to get home and sleep - almost 3 a.m. - Peace Out!

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