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GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!

 
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So, Germany doing military drills with Turkey today in the Aegean and both violated Greek airspace many times, Greek air-force intercepted them off course coz they didn't give any flight-plan whatsover, same with Pakistani and Turkish aircrafts yesterday. Thnx Germany, appreciated.
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In the next day or two. The greeks have the marathon at marathon

Let's hope all go well
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In the next day or two. The greeks have the marathon at marathon

Let's hope all go well
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It's on Sunday. What could go wrong? It's a Marathon.1dunno1

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In the next day or two. The greeks have the marathon at marathon

Let's hope all go well
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It's on Sunday. What could go wrong? It's a Marathon.1dunno1
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Is Greece the new Syria?
I copy from Defencenet.gr as it is not possible to add a link

And suddenly Foundation "supranational" "Crisis Watch" as in Syria!
11/10/2012 - 23:24
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One curious case evolves with the introduction of that noteworthy ELIAMEP funded by the Greek Ministry of Foreign Affairs a "Crisis Centre" for Greece, which strongly resembles the corresponding observatory founded by Syrian dissidents undefined funders.

As the announcement of the institution seeking ELIAMEP 'researchers to staff the new Crisis Observatory will begin operations on January 1, 2013 with the support of S. Niarchos Foundation. " As the announcement of the institution, "The main objective of the Centre is the systematic monitoring and analysis of economic, political and social aspects of the crisis in Greece and Europe in general, and factual information, and intervention in public debate at home and abroad" .

In simple words, as stated in the notice the "Crisis Watch" for Greece will not only gather information and investigate the economic and social problems of the crisis experienced by Greece, but unsolicited and without any institutional position will take positions and intervene in debate both in Greece and abroad.

It is essentially yet another case where a research Foundation seeks to shape public opinion in Greece and abroad, an issue taking advantage of the access that has been in media centers and opinion leaders, as indicated in the Communication Foundation, part of employment of researchers of the program will be "Networking with the media and other relevant organizations in Greece and abroad - presentation of positions and views on the crisis in Greece, intervention in public debate, promoting the work of his team ELIAMEP via the Internet '.

The most interesting is that the communication does not indicate the true reason for starting such a program which as presented raises many questions about its mission, given the track record of such an "observatory" in other countries for monitoring and handling "crisis" there or could arise.

As demonstrated similar efforts in Russia which were interrupted by the Russian government, but as himself G. Soros had confessed to CNN in November 2009 to create parallel NGO and political activities in one country may not be so innocent purpose.

As stated in a report in CNN «Soros: In revolutionary times the impossible becomes possible» ( [link to edition.cnn.com] ...) the He oungroevraios tycoon, in 1984 founded the first NGO in Hungary to internal erosion of Hungarian society and the communist regime. Characteristically said Soros, the institution with a budget of $ 3 million had greater influence on the Hungarian society than the state itself.

Of course it could be argued that the catalytic ELIAMEP seeks guidance from the Greek political leadership and the Greek people. But nowhere in the statement does not indicate the true purpose of this program, leaving many unanswered questions in the days could be described as critical and evil .....
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So, Germany doing military drills with Turkey today in the Aegean and both violated Greek airspace many times, Greek air-force intercepted them off course coz they didn't give any flight-plan whatsover, same with Pakistani and Turkish aircrafts yesterday. Thnx Germany, appreciated.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


WHAT??? THIS IS VERY VERY SERIOUS AND IN MY OPPINION PROVES THE BAD INTENTIONS OF GERMANY AGAINST GREECE AND OTHER COUNTRIES!!!redface
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So, Germany doing military drills with Turkey today in the Aegean and both violated Greek airspace many times, Greek air-force intercepted them off course coz they didn't give any flight-plan whatsover, same with Pakistani and Turkish aircrafts yesterday. Thnx Germany, appreciated.
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Any link on that?
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So, Germany doing military drills with Turkey today in the Aegean and both violated Greek airspace many times, Greek air-force intercepted them off course coz they didn't give any flight-plan whatsover, same with Pakistani and Turkish aircrafts yesterday. Thnx Germany, appreciated.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Any link on that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27412420


Yes it is on
[link to www.defencenet.gr]
But it is in Greek. The second article with the helicopter as a picture. But you have to google translate it as I cann't post a defencenet link from google translate
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Is Greece the new Syria?
I copy from Defencenet.gr as it is not possible to add a link

And suddenly Foundation "supranational" "Crisis Watch" as in Syria!
11/10/2012 - 23:24
11

One curious case evolves with the introduction of that noteworthy ELIAMEP funded by the Greek Ministry of Foreign Affairs a "Crisis Centre" for Greece, which strongly resembles the corresponding observatory founded by Syrian dissidents undefined funders.

As the announcement of the institution seeking ELIAMEP 'researchers to staff the new Crisis Observatory will begin operations on January 1, 2013 with the support of S. Niarchos Foundation. " As the announcement of the institution, "The main objective of the Centre is the systematic monitoring and analysis of economic, political and social aspects of the crisis in Greece and Europe in general, and factual information, and intervention in public debate at home and abroad" .

In simple words, as stated in the notice the "Crisis Watch" for Greece will not only gather information and investigate the economic and social problems of the crisis experienced by Greece, but unsolicited and without any institutional position will take positions and intervene in debate both in Greece and abroad.

It is essentially yet another case where a research Foundation seeks to shape public opinion in Greece and abroad, an issue taking advantage of the access that has been in media centers and opinion leaders, as indicated in the Communication Foundation, part of employment of researchers of the program will be "Networking with the media and other relevant organizations in Greece and abroad - presentation of positions and views on the crisis in Greece, intervention in public debate, promoting the work of his team ELIAMEP via the Internet '.

The most interesting is that the communication does not indicate the true reason for starting such a program which as presented raises many questions about its mission, given the track record of such an "observatory" in other countries for monitoring and handling "crisis" there or could arise.

As demonstrated similar efforts in Russia which were interrupted by the Russian government, but as himself G. Soros had confessed to CNN in November 2009 to create parallel NGO and political activities in one country may not be so innocent purpose.

As stated in a report in CNN «Soros: In revolutionary times the impossible becomes possible» ( [link to edition.cnn.com] ...) the He oungroevraios tycoon, in 1984 founded the first NGO in Hungary to internal erosion of Hungarian society and the communist regime. Characteristically said Soros, the institution with a budget of $ 3 million had greater influence on the Hungarian society than the state itself.

Of course it could be argued that the catalytic ELIAMEP seeks guidance from the Greek political leadership and the Greek people. But nowhere in the statement does not indicate the true purpose of this program, leaving many unanswered questions in the days could be described as critical and evil .....
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Greece is without doubt heading for civil war and it aint going to be pretty
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Re: GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!
So, Germany doing military drills with Turkey today in the Aegean and both violated Greek airspace many times, Greek air-force intercepted them off course coz they didn't give any flight-plan whatsover, same with Pakistani and Turkish aircrafts yesterday. Thnx Germany, appreciated.
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Any link on that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27412420


Yes it is on
[link to www.defencenet.gr]
But it is in Greek. The second article with the helicopter as a picture. But you have to google translate it as I cann't post a defencenet link from google translate
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Can you post the link to the article directly?? Now you just posted the link to the main website and I can't find the article you're talking about.

Thanks
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So, Germany doing military drills with Turkey today in the Aegean and both violated Greek airspace many times, Greek air-force intercepted them off course coz they didn't give any flight-plan whatsover, same with Pakistani and Turkish aircrafts yesterday. Thnx Germany, appreciated.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Any link on that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27412420


Yes it is on
[link to www.defencenet.gr]
But it is in Greek. The second article with the helicopter as a picture. But you have to google translate it as I cann't post a defencenet link from google translate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27435174


Can you post the link to the article directly?? Now you just posted the link to the main website and I can't find the article you're talking about.

Thanks
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Sorry I cannt cause it has Greek characters on the web address and whenever I post Greek letters GLP doesn't saw them. But below the big pictures there are 8 smaller ones. It is the 3 at the momment, the one with a helicopter.

Here is a google translation of the article, though

German violations of IDPs in the Aegean Sea in cooperation with the Turkish Navy
11/09/2012 - 21:00
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Germany beyond dirty or "dishonest" - as most professing pro-government and pennies game-playing with the Memorandum and the country's debt and proceeded to brutal questioning the aerial challenge our borders in the Aegean with a German naval helicopter co LYNX.

This helicopter operating from the German Navy frigate which synaskeito with Turkish warships violated the National Aviation Area (ERA) and the rules of the Athens FIR in tandem with Turkish aircraft helicopters and fighter naval cooperation!

The German helicopter not only refused to hand over flight plans to Air Traffic Control Centre and in practice adopting the Turkish positions on the non-existence of Greek airspace between 6 and 10 nm proceeded to air "invasion."

More specifically, the Turkish and German aerial held today 11 breaches of Athens FIR and 2 violations of IDPs from a total of 18 aircraft of which: The 10 Turkish Air Force fighter, the Navy helicopters 5, 1 German helicopter and finally 2 the naval cooperation aircraft CN-235 of the Turkish Navy.

All the activity of these aeronautical ektylichthite forces in the northern and southeastern Aegean.
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Morning Luis, Foveras, hope all is well! hf

Ex-Goldman Bankers See Crisis Opportunity in Greek Insuranceshark
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So, Germany doing military drills with Turkey today in the Aegean and both violated Greek airspace many times, Greek air-force intercepted them off course coz they didn't give any flight-plan whatsover, same with Pakistani and Turkish aircrafts yesterday. Thnx Germany, appreciated.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


WHAT??? THIS IS VERY VERY SERIOUS AND IN MY OPPINION PROVES THE BAD INTENTIONS OF GERMANY AGAINST GREECE AND OTHER COUNTRIES!!!redface
 Quoting: Luisport


Yep, unfortunately state of Germany always preferred Turkey than Greece, proven time and time again the last 100-150 years. NATO wants to give half the Aegean to Turkey!
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In the next day or two. The greeks have the marathon at marathon

Let's hope all go well
 Quoting: bill shitters 1.2


It's on Sunday. What could go wrong? It's a Marathon.1dunno1
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GAP participating.
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damned
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Morning Luis, Foveras, hope all is well! hf

Ex-Goldman Bankers See Crisis Opportunity in Greek Insuranceshark
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This bastards never stop!!! Good morning my frieng! Today is the day of the bigest demonstration of militaries ever in Portugal!
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Well.. I just heard there are problems between Germany and France on France's finace and the Germans call for measures...

here is an article on this
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
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He is talking about this with ms. M


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Will it be Civil War? Looks that way.

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Well.. I just heard there are problems between Germany and France on France's finace and the Germans call for measures...

here is an article on this
[link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Ostria1


hf
Yep, posted in earlier page some links. Can't see the new budget passing. Doom.
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Is Greece the new Syria?
I copy from Defencenet.gr as it is not possible to add a link


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The usual BS by defencenet there, Syria has a sectarian conflict and people of countless different ethnicity, no comparison at all. We'll have riots in an unimaginable scale but not civil war, although the illegals are dead on for a rebellion of some kind, sleeper cells are 10's of thousands. I would stop trusting defencenet, i've been watching them for some time now and they post BS after BS, i mean they post real news but they manipulate and add their BS all the time, they even said that Russia Defense Min. got the boot coz he didn't manage to succeed Greece-Russia military cooperation, lol, one word, retards. Much better military websites out there.

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Morning all :)

Well to have civil war you need two groups in war within the society. We dont have this here. It is just that the people are against the politicians (who are just puppets of foreign policies and only care about their full pocket).
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Morning all :)

Well to have civil war you need two groups in war within the society. We dont have this here. It is just that the people are against the politicians (who are just puppets of foreign policies and only care about their full pocket).
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That's what i'm trying to say, people are against the politicians, the only civil war we'll see will be the "controlled opposition" like the riots the parastate agents are setting up all this time. Except if the illegals count as civil war, not for me though, but for multi-culti European MSM probably.
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Greece is without doubt heading for civil war and it aint going to be pretty
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No, you've been saying this for 2 years.
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Morning Luis, IFUN, Ostria hf

How are you Ostria, long time seens we talk last time.
IFUN I know about about DN and I know that is talking alot BS. But I linked that article to point the fact that we are not far away from a civil war and some people might actually want something like this.
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Morning all :)

Well to have civil war you need two groups in war within the society. We dont have this here. It is just that the people are against the politicians (who are just puppets of foreign policies and only care about their full pocket).
 Quoting: Ostria1



That's what i'm trying to say, people are against the politicians, the only civil war we'll see will be the "controlled opposition" like the riots the parastate agents are setting up all this time. Except if the illegals count as civil war, not for me though, but for multi-culti European MSM probably.
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but a military coup is possible...
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Is Greece the new Syria?
I copy from Defencenet.gr as it is not possible to add a link


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27435174


The usual BS by defencenet there, Syria has a sectarian conflict and people of countless different ethnicity, no comparison at all. We'll have riots in an unimaginable scale but not civil war, although the illegals are dead on for a rebellion of some kind, sleeper cells are 10's of thousands. I would stop trusting defencenet, i've been watching them for some time now and they post BS after BS, i mean they post real news but they manipulate and add their BS all the time, they even said that Russia Defense Min. got the boot coz he didn't manage to succeed Greece-Russia military cooperation, lol, one word, retards. Much better military websites out there.
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Greece is on the edge of civil war,plenty of nutters in Greece willing to comit murder to get what they want,communists and nazis ect


Greece is on the edge
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Morning Luis, Foveras, hope all is well! hf

Ex-Goldman Bankers See Crisis Opportunity in Greek Insuranceshark
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This bastards never stop!!! Good morning my frieng! Today is the day of the bigest demonstration of militaries ever in Portugal!
 Quoting: Luisport


Why would they stop, it's all up for sale now in extremely ridiculous prices. So the military officers relaxed a bit? Not thinking of a coup anymore?
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Greece is on the edge of civil war,plenty of nutters in Greece willing to comit murder to get what they want,communists and nazis ect


Greece is on the edge
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I guess you know better from the people that are living here don't you? I remember you btw mate, you are the civilwartard that his father heard about civil war one day on the radio and told you about it and you keep posting it over and over again, relax and stop posting BS, thnx.

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That's what i'm trying to say, people are against the politicians, the only civil war we'll see will be the "controlled opposition" like the riots the parastate agents are setting up all this time. Except if the illegals count as civil war, not for me though, but for multi-culti European MSM probably.
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I agree the problem with the illegals is serious but can never reach to a point of a "war". My only concern is the increasing power of the extreem right group right now, but I think most people here are deeply democrats to let them rule.
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Morning Luis, Foveras, hope all is well! hf

Ex-Goldman Bankers See Crisis Opportunity in Greek Insuranceshark
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This bastards never stop!!! Good morning my frieng! Today is the day of the bigest demonstration of militaries ever in Portugal!
 Quoting: Luisport


Why would they stop, it's all up for sale now in extremely ridiculous prices. So the military officers relaxed a bit? Not thinking of a coup anymore?
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


We never know... they are very very mad with gov

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