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GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!

 
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Just got a text from a friend.
Athens is calm at mo



Unless the natives retake their country its going to end with a plaugue
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Off course it's calm. Sometimes i think you guys out of Greece think that there is a daily warzone in Athens. It's not.

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invite the bitch to Greece .... drag her by her fucking hair and drag her to the city square and address the greek people in person

she has a big fucking mouth when in her own country .... let her 'speak' to the people 'in person', ... if not, she should shut the fuck up ....

she's a fucking bitch and she looks like a fucking drag queen

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chuckle
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Tranche-doom!aaa
IMF says to Greece to not take the tranche because it's a hemlock and will be an obstacle to a new haircut and will lead Greece to further financial doom, IMF says that it will leave the troika if this happens and that will leave Greece depending solely on the Germany moods.
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Quality of life and wages back to 1990 level in Greecewhip
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So can we stop the crazy austerity now? We got in the euro in 2001, jussayin.1dunno1

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Can you explain for me what the IMF is suggesting in that article above? I am having a hard time understanding it.

Thanks.
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Can you explain for me what the IMF is suggesting in that article above? I am having a hard time understanding it.

Thanks.
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Sure. It says that if we take the 31.5BN tranche a new haircut which is the only thing that could postpone/save Greek economy won't happen and that this 3rd memorandum will lead Greece in further recession/depression. IMF threatening to leave the troika coz yesterday they said that there are political limits to austerity and sovereignty of countries is violated. The 25BN of this tranche will go for bank recapitalization and IMF suggested yesterday that the 50BN that the Greek banks need should be taken by the ESM and not be on this deal that would have to be paid by average taxpayers. Greek govt is going to Brussels for talks, bankster finance min. wants to follow the EU script, negotiations team wants to take only some money for 5BN bonds that expire on Nov.16 or to pass them on a later day, ECB doesn't want to pass them on a later day and wants to give the whole 31BN tranche to Greece. Eurogroup and negotiations on Nov.12 are critical.

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Hey there Insert ! Hope you're hanging in there buddy ! cheers
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Hey there Insert ! Hope you're hanging in there buddy ! cheers
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Thnx buddy, hope all is well with you too!hf
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Can you explain for me what the IMF is suggesting in that article above? I am having a hard time understanding it.

Thanks.
 Quoting: aetrtrb



Sure. It says that if we take the 31.5BN tranche a new haircut which is the only thing that could postpone/save Greek economy won't happen and that this 3rd memorandum will lead Greece in further recession/depression. IMF threatening to leave the troika coz yesterday they said that there are political limits to austerity and sovereignty of countries is violated. The 25BN of this tranche will go for bank recapitalization and IMF suggested yesterday that the 50BN that the Greek banks need should be taken by the ESM and not be on this deal that would have to be paid by average taxpayers. Greek govt is going to Brussels for talks, bankster finance min. wants to follow the EU script, negotiations team wants to take only some money for 5BN bonds that expire on Nov.16 or to pass them on a later day, ECB doesn't want to pass them on a later day and wants to give the whole 31BN tranche to Greece. Eurogroup and negotiations on Nov.12 are critical.
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Is it just me or the ECB wants to completely bring Greece to it's knees !? There is no way Greece will ever be able to pay back these loans...what does the ECB want, a few Greek Islands in exchange for more cash ?
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Is it just me or the ECB wants to completely bring Greece to it's knees !? There is no way Greece will ever be able to pay back these loans...what does the ECB want, a few Greek Islands in exchange for more cash ?
 Quoting: subzero86


ECB will probably want to save their asses little longer before recession hits N.Europe so they will be able to unify all of EU countries banks. Complete sellout of assets for ridiculous prices to their beloved companies is also on the table off course, they are bankers, it's what they do. I too think that they want us to collapse or push us to complete social unrest or even civil war, can't explain it any other way. TPTB want a thousand things more than what i've said in the long run in Greece.
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Is it just me or the ECB wants to completely bring Greece to it's knees !? There is no way Greece will ever be able to pay back these loans...what does the ECB want, a few Greek Islands in exchange for more cash ?
 Quoting: subzero86


ECB will probably want to save their asses little longer before recession hits N.Europe so they will be able to unify all of EU countries banks. Complete sellout of assets for ridiculous prices to their beloved companies is also on the table off course, they are bankers, it's what they do. I too think that they want us to collapse or push us to complete social unrest or even civil war, can't explain it any other way. TPTB want a thousand things more than what i've said in the long run in Greece.
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
 Quoting: subzero86


My take is that they are not fighting each other, TPTB and banksters know no borders, they make it seem that they are fighting while in reality they are cooperating and following a script.
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
 Quoting: subzero86


My take is that they are not fighting each other, TPTB and banksters know no borders, they make it seem that they are fighting while in reality they are cooperating and following a script.
Idol1
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I used to think that too Insert ! The thing that convinced me something was fishy about the whole situation in the middle east was the fact that the US helped bring down all those loyal dictators and replaced them with the radical muslim brotherhood.

Would the Rothschilds or Astors do this kind of thing ? Encircling Israel with hostile regimes when they had puppet dictators in place ?

I think this is the work of other Illuminati families !
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
 Quoting: subzero86


My take is that they are not fighting each other, TPTB and banksters know no borders, they make it seem that they are fighting while in reality they are cooperating and following a script.
Idol1
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


I used to think that too Insert ! The thing that convinced me something was fishy about the whole situation in the middle east was the fact that the US helped bring down all those loyal dictators and replaced them with the radical muslim brotherhood.

Would the Rothschilds or Astors do this kind of thing ? Encircling Israel with hostile regimes when they had puppet dictators in place ?

I think this is the work of other Illuminati families !
 Quoting: subzero86


I really think they would do that tbh, script says that everyone in the ME will be against Israel.
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Katseli law won't be renewed in Greece after extreme pressure from troika, this is coming to Greece from 1/1/2013
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This law protected Greek citizens from banks taking their homes!

burnit
Greek banks gave our loans and mortgages to JPMorgan with the govt's signature, Greek state even got 950MN for the deal
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hang'em 5a
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Intelligence sharing, no solution in November with euroroups and stuff, Greek govt is a drama-queen fishing for votes, only way we can go bankrupt is ECB not passing the bonds to a later day, but they won't do that coz it's not good for them too obviously, Germany will pass both of Greek-Cyprus deal in one package through German parliament so we still have time until January-February for a solution of a haircut or something else. Things could change though if something unexpected happens, but this is how things are for now panning out, just wanted to share, matches the time frame i've shared before about January-March doom.
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Intelligence sharing, no solution in November with euroroups and stuff, Greek govt is a drama-queen fishing for votes, only way we can go bankrupt is ECB not passing the bonds to a later day, but they won't do that coz it's not good for them too obviously, Germany will pass both of Greek-Cyprus deal in one package through German parliament so we still have time until January-February for a solution of a haircut or something else. Things could change though if something unexpected happens, but this is how things are for now panning out, just wanted to share, matches the time frame i've shared before about January-March doom.
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Hey Insert... I can see Greece being thrown out of the Euro by years end if not in the new year...

BTW, Greece will be the largest miner of Gold in the world by 2016 and this can bankroll the drahma again... If you add the Oil/Gas/Rare Earth material reserve it is the richest country in Eurozone.

Dont you wonder why Greece is lumped in with other countries that "also have rich reserves???" but are classified as failed economies or terrorist states? Western MSM BS at its best.

Israel needs Greece/Cyprus to build the pipeline to bring Gas to Europe otherwise its dead in the water (they really cant pump it to middle east as they have there own resource for energy).

So what is the west trying to get out of Greece/Cyprus? and why are they destroying these countries more than other clubmeds?

Could it be free rain to all pipelines/resources? I think so
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
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what ever happens today i cant see Troika approving the next batch of bailout money
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
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what ever happens today i cant see Troika approving the next batch of bailout money
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Agree, more can kicking down the road stuff will continue
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
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what ever happens today i cant see Troika approving the next batch of bailout money
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Yes of course, but if it don't pass it will be the end of the german dream! Many deputies of gov parties rebel and were expelled, so the things are very equilibrate this time!
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
 Quoting: Luisport


what ever happens today i cant see Troika approving the next batch of bailout money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487375


Yes of course, but if it don't pass it will be the end of the german dream! Many deputies of gov parties rebel and were expelled, so the things are very equilibrate this time!
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they have already planned the collapse behind closed doors,these meetings and votes are just a show for the masses...


not long to go now
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
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what ever happens today i cant see Troika approving the next batch of bailout money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487375


Yes of course, but if it don't pass it will be the end of the german dream! Many deputies of gov parties rebel and were expelled, so the things are very equilibrate this time!
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Ask yourself why many Northern European Countries and the Swiss are franticly trying to get there Gold back
in-house....

Grexit is a go!!! The German dream which has turned into nightmarish sweats is due to the "cat out of the bag" so to speak of Greece's resource rich territory. They wanted to snatch and grab as much as possible before it was made public.

I find it amazing that all the Gold/Silver from Greece/Ireland/Portugal was allowed to be taken away just before and during the Euro entry, whilst people where being scammed into buying worthless paper.

Hangings anyone?
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
 Quoting: Luisport


what ever happens today i cant see Troika approving the next batch of bailout money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487375


Yes of course, but if it don't pass it will be the end of the german dream! Many deputies of gov parties rebel and were expelled, so the things are very equilibrate this time!
 Quoting: Luisport


Ask yourself why many Northern European Countries and the Swiss are franticly trying to get there Gold back
in-house....

Grexit is a go!!! The German dream which has turned into nightmarish sweats is due to the "cat out of the bag" so to speak of Greece's resource rich territory. They wanted to snatch and grab as much as possible before it was made public.

I find it amazing that all the Gold/Silver from Greece/Ireland/Portugal was allowed to be taken away just before and during the Euro entry, whilst people where being scammed into buying worthless paper.

Hangings anyone?
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i cant wait untill the European sh1t house falls apart,domini effect all the way!
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
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Kalispera Luis and everyone!hf
Yes, budget will pass.
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So my greek friends do you think the budget will pass today?
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what ever happens today i cant see Troika approving the next batch of bailout money
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487375


Agree, more can kicking down the road stuff will continue
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Turkey will invade.
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Will be nice to see Turkey Invaded again after they try that .

Erdigan is not an Ottoman , hes a fool.
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Intelligence sharing, no solution in November with euroroups and stuff, Greek govt is a drama-queen fishing for votes, only way we can go bankrupt is ECB not passing the bonds to a later day, but they won't do that coz it's not good for them too obviously, Germany will pass both of Greek-Cyprus deal in one package through German parliament so we still have time until January-February for a solution of a haircut or something else. Things could change though if something unexpected happens, but this is how things are for now panning out, just wanted to share, matches the time frame i've shared before about January-March doom.
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Hey Insert... I can see Greece being thrown out of the Euro by years end if not in the new year...

BTW, Greece will be the largest miner of Gold in the world by 2016 and this can bankroll the drahma again... If you add the Oil/Gas/Rare Earth material reserve it is the richest country in Eurozone.

Dont you wonder why Greece is lumped in with other countries that "also have rich reserves???" but are classified as failed economies or terrorist states? Western MSM BS at its best.

Israel needs Greece/Cyprus to build the pipeline to bring Gas to Europe otherwise its dead in the water (they really cant pump it to middle east as they have there own resource for energy).

So what is the west trying to get out of Greece/Cyprus? and why are they destroying these countries more than other clubmeds?

Could it be free rain to all pipelines/resources? I think so
 Quoting: Anonymous 26771446


Hey my friend, off course they'll kick us out of the euro, but since they can't do it by themselves the German/EU political class will keep scapegoating a whole nation so they'll push Greece to leave on her own, no probs though, we got used to the scapegoating, we just have to take the beatings and manage to stay on our feet imo. Seriously, financial Armageddon, collapse, poverty, anything is better than austerity imposed by the Germans.

I think this austerity thing has gone too far and totally agree that western MSM is totally hypocritical and BS, their tactics are the same as they do with other oil and minerals rich countries, off course we know about the resources here in Greece but some Europeans are oblivious about these things and think that this crisis truly has to do with tax collecting. Don't get me wrong, corruption is a big problem, but for sure it's not the key of this crisis, it's all about the resources, we have plenty and they want to get everything for free. I really worry about Cyprus when shtf tbh, coz we are not in a position now to protect them, this troika thing reminds me in some cases the cia imposed military coup that lead to Cyprus occupation. Off course not by chance that year-long disputes with neighbors is on the table of negotiations now that we luck strength.

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Protests during budget vote, more strikes coming this week
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