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GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!

 
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I just see in the news that a women commit suicide in spain when authorities take her from her house because she coudn't pay to the bank!
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Very sad. Feck the banks and feck the ptb
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More German love. Director of Goethe Inst. said that he can't understand why the Greek flag is waving in Cyprus. Greek Culture Institute calls the German Embassy in Cyprus to apologize.
[link to translate.google.gr]

That's 2-3 days after the attack of spiegel on Cyprus. I'm very glad so far Cyprus is not bending over to the troika as easy as Greece did.

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Greeks are the most vurnable nations to these kind of troubles. It only the last 30 years that we have no serious conflicts between us. And this years there was a constant fight between Pasok and ND people. So it is not hard to triger this I am afraid.
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For sure, but this is not the 40's anymore, people have evolved since then and been educated to unknown levels for this country. Parastate leftists and fascists (who too are funded by somewhere btw) will probably keep rioting against each other, but who gives a fuck about them, let them destroy each other if that's what they want, i consider this a blessing, the good thing for me is that the people are not buying it and taking a part in it, i'm sure that TPTB are pissed that their "movements" haven't gathered more pace here, simple peoples are not joining them and i think that the most have figured it out whats this BS is all about. The bigger tests are ahead of us though, i've said this before but i will repeat, the extreme social unrest and turmoil is planned for January to May, hope everyone will keep their heads cool and will probably be a good thing for people to have a back-up plan to go back to their villages when TSHTF.
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I dont know IFUN we fight like dogs for stupid things and I am afraid that when you are starving you wont have the clear thought. I was hoping with the crisis people to come closer, help each other. Instead I see people becoming more and more selfish. I work in a shop and I have a daily contact with people.
Thankfully as I have said before I always have a back-up plan.
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Off course mate, we are far from perfect, but i don't think that we've reached to this point when one will kill each other, we are loudmouth, we fighting each other all the time, i compare us with the Asterix village many times, but i think that when the cause calls for it we are united, i'm not saying that 100% nothing will happen, but talking with people in various cities i visit for work, i'm very surprised to state that i see most of them being awake and aware of who the enemy is so far.
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Hope you are right my friend. Really I do.
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Hope you are right my friend. Really I do.
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Me too, although nothing is certain in SHTF scenarios and there are always some kind of deviations, but i haven't seen a single trend for an armed warfare in the Greek society, have you or someone you know? Like Ostria said you need 2 to tango, let European MSM spitting the usual BS, for them illegals are Greeks we are talking about huge levels of ignorance and retardness, they have an agenda they even think that simple peoples like you and me are throwing molotov to the police and there is some kind of revolution happening here, lol, as i said they have an certain agenda.

Yes there will be enormous social unrest, yes there are a few retards that are willing to fight with other retards but to name this unrest civil war is silly, most of the people understand whats the play here, at least for now. You see even with the protest vote like GD, almost no one believes in their ideology, we hate fascism here, it's just a protest vote against the circus we are seeing currently, the same with leftists/communists, protest vote, the majority doesn't even support their views on the national issues with our neighbors which are shameful to say the least, can't see the majority going to war for these retards, i don't see simple people sharing their fanaticism, actually the best thing that the political establishment of the last 30 years have achieved is to make the Greeks trust no one regarding politics and what they are saying. We'll see false flags for sure, i'm a bit surprised we haven't seen a Grigoropoulos FF yet tbh. But when they'll fail to turn Greeks onto each other they'll use the illegals have no doubt.

Military won't let this escalate to civil war where many people will die, be sure about that, they are pissed with the situation too coz they see where this is going and they have even made plans for the day after the coup if something unfortunate like this happens.

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Spiegel is reporting, citing a Greek govt employee and a union representative that troika demands now the names of the public employees that must be fired
[link to translate.google.gr]

ECB’s Weidmann Urges Honest Troika Report on Greece
[link to greece.greekreporter.com]

Siemens probe moves to Germanyanon
[link to www.ekathimerini.com]

Eight suitors for state’s OPAP stakeshark
[link to www.ekathimerini.com]

So they want to sell the last 33% OPAP share a totally profitable company for about 500MN, that's the company's last years earnings and the money that the Greek state has earned from this company in about 2 years. On top of that OPAP since 2001 has given the Greek state 1.9 BN dividends, 2.4BN on taxes, 1.25BN on monopoly contracts and has even donated and sponsorship-ed 715MN on culture and community service projects. Some say that a fair price could be up to 6BN, but Greek sellout govt seems to prefer the 500MN.anon

The real value and valuation of OPAP
[link to translate.google.gr]

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zerohedge‏@zerohedge

On Germany's Desire To See America Collapse, And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama" [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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On Germany's Desire To See America Collapse, And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama" [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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chuckle

Read that too, let the currency wars begin!5a
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zerohedge‏@zerohedge

On Germany's Desire To See America Collapse, And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama" [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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chuckle

Read that too, let the currency wars begin!5a
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Merkel has to be stoped!!!
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On Germany's Desire To See America Collapse, And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama" [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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chuckle

Read that too, let the currency wars begin!5a
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Merkel has to be stoped!!!
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Also on spiegel: US Debt Problems Threaten to Send the Country and Globe into Crisis
[link to www.spiegel.de]
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I just made a thread on this because everyone has to know the truly nature of german elites!
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Just got a text from a friend.
Athens is calm at mo



Unless the natives retake their country its going to end with a plaugue
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I just made a thread on this because everyone has to know the truly nature of german elites!
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In for the bump.
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On Germany's Desire To See America Collapse, And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama" [link to www.zerohedge.com] …
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chuckle

Read that too, let the currency wars begin!5a
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Merkel has to be stoped!!!
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invite the bitch to Greece .... drag her by her fucking hair and drag her to the city square and address the greek people in person

she has a big fucking mouth when in her own country .... let her 'speak' to the people 'in person', ... if not, she should shut the fuck up ....

she's a fucking bitch and she looks like a fucking drag queen

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Just got a text from a friend.
Athens is calm at mo



Unless the natives retake their country its going to end with a plaugue
 Quoting: bill shitters 1.2


Off course it's calm. Sometimes i think you guys out of Greece think that there is a daily warzone in Athens. It's not.

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invite the bitch to Greece .... drag her by her fucking hair and drag her to the city square and address the greek people in person

she has a big fucking mouth when in her own country .... let her 'speak' to the people 'in person', ... if not, she should shut the fuck up ....

she's a fucking bitch and she looks like a fucking drag queen

SIS
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chuckle
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Tranche-doom!aaa
IMF says to Greece to not take the tranche because it's a hemlock and will be an obstacle to a new haircut and will lead Greece to further financial doom, IMF says that it will leave the troika if this happens and that will leave Greece depending solely on the Germany moods.
[link to translate.google.gr]


Quality of life and wages back to 1990 level in Greecewhip
[link to translate.google.gr]
So can we stop the crazy austerity now? We got in the euro in 2001, jussayin.1dunno1

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Can you explain for me what the IMF is suggesting in that article above? I am having a hard time understanding it.

Thanks.
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Can you explain for me what the IMF is suggesting in that article above? I am having a hard time understanding it.

Thanks.
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Sure. It says that if we take the 31.5BN tranche a new haircut which is the only thing that could postpone/save Greek economy won't happen and that this 3rd memorandum will lead Greece in further recession/depression. IMF threatening to leave the troika coz yesterday they said that there are political limits to austerity and sovereignty of countries is violated. The 25BN of this tranche will go for bank recapitalization and IMF suggested yesterday that the 50BN that the Greek banks need should be taken by the ESM and not be on this deal that would have to be paid by average taxpayers. Greek govt is going to Brussels for talks, bankster finance min. wants to follow the EU script, negotiations team wants to take only some money for 5BN bonds that expire on Nov.16 or to pass them on a later day, ECB doesn't want to pass them on a later day and wants to give the whole 31BN tranche to Greece. Eurogroup and negotiations on Nov.12 are critical.

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Hey there Insert ! Hope you're hanging in there buddy ! cheers
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Hey there Insert ! Hope you're hanging in there buddy ! cheers
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Thnx buddy, hope all is well with you too!hf
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Can you explain for me what the IMF is suggesting in that article above? I am having a hard time understanding it.

Thanks.
 Quoting: aetrtrb



Sure. It says that if we take the 31.5BN tranche a new haircut which is the only thing that could postpone/save Greek economy won't happen and that this 3rd memorandum will lead Greece in further recession/depression. IMF threatening to leave the troika coz yesterday they said that there are political limits to austerity and sovereignty of countries is violated. The 25BN of this tranche will go for bank recapitalization and IMF suggested yesterday that the 50BN that the Greek banks need should be taken by the ESM and not be on this deal that would have to be paid by average taxpayers. Greek govt is going to Brussels for talks, bankster finance min. wants to follow the EU script, negotiations team wants to take only some money for 5BN bonds that expire on Nov.16 or to pass them on a later day, ECB doesn't want to pass them on a later day and wants to give the whole 31BN tranche to Greece. Eurogroup and negotiations on Nov.12 are critical.
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Is it just me or the ECB wants to completely bring Greece to it's knees !? There is no way Greece will ever be able to pay back these loans...what does the ECB want, a few Greek Islands in exchange for more cash ?
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Is it just me or the ECB wants to completely bring Greece to it's knees !? There is no way Greece will ever be able to pay back these loans...what does the ECB want, a few Greek Islands in exchange for more cash ?
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ECB will probably want to save their asses little longer before recession hits N.Europe so they will be able to unify all of EU countries banks. Complete sellout of assets for ridiculous prices to their beloved companies is also on the table off course, they are bankers, it's what they do. I too think that they want us to collapse or push us to complete social unrest or even civil war, can't explain it any other way. TPTB want a thousand things more than what i've said in the long run in Greece.
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Is it just me or the ECB wants to completely bring Greece to it's knees !? There is no way Greece will ever be able to pay back these loans...what does the ECB want, a few Greek Islands in exchange for more cash ?
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ECB will probably want to save their asses little longer before recession hits N.Europe so they will be able to unify all of EU countries banks. Complete sellout of assets for ridiculous prices to their beloved companies is also on the table off course, they are bankers, it's what they do. I too think that they want us to collapse or push us to complete social unrest or even civil war, can't explain it any other way. TPTB want a thousand things more than what i've said in the long run in Greece.
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
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My take is that they are not fighting each other, TPTB and banksters know no borders, they make it seem that they are fighting while in reality they are cooperating and following a script.
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
 Quoting: subzero86


My take is that they are not fighting each other, TPTB and banksters know no borders, they make it seem that they are fighting while in reality they are cooperating and following a script.
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I used to think that too Insert ! The thing that convinced me something was fishy about the whole situation in the middle east was the fact that the US helped bring down all those loyal dictators and replaced them with the radical muslim brotherhood.

Would the Rothschilds or Astors do this kind of thing ? Encircling Israel with hostile regimes when they had puppet dictators in place ?

I think this is the work of other Illuminati families !
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The question is which faction of TPTB ? Cos in my opinion there are many factions fighting among themselves right now !

In the past "TPTB" meant all the Illuminati families working together to enslave us...now they are fighting each other and we're caught in the middle !
 Quoting: subzero86


My take is that they are not fighting each other, TPTB and banksters know no borders, they make it seem that they are fighting while in reality they are cooperating and following a script.
Idol1
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I used to think that too Insert ! The thing that convinced me something was fishy about the whole situation in the middle east was the fact that the US helped bring down all those loyal dictators and replaced them with the radical muslim brotherhood.

Would the Rothschilds or Astors do this kind of thing ? Encircling Israel with hostile regimes when they had puppet dictators in place ?

I think this is the work of other Illuminati families !
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I really think they would do that tbh, script says that everyone in the ME will be against Israel.
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Katseli law won't be renewed in Greece after extreme pressure from troika, this is coming to Greece from 1/1/2013
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This law protected Greek citizens from banks taking their homes!

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Greek banks gave our loans and mortgages to JPMorgan with the govt's signature, Greek state even got 950MN for the deal
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Intelligence sharing, no solution in November with euroroups and stuff, Greek govt is a drama-queen fishing for votes, only way we can go bankrupt is ECB not passing the bonds to a later day, but they won't do that coz it's not good for them too obviously, Germany will pass both of Greek-Cyprus deal in one package through German parliament so we still have time until January-February for a solution of a haircut or something else. Things could change though if something unexpected happens, but this is how things are for now panning out, just wanted to share, matches the time frame i've shared before about January-March doom.
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Intelligence sharing, no solution in November with euroroups and stuff, Greek govt is a drama-queen fishing for votes, only way we can go bankrupt is ECB not passing the bonds to a later day, but they won't do that coz it's not good for them too obviously, Germany will pass both of Greek-Cyprus deal in one package through German parliament so we still have time until January-February for a solution of a haircut or something else. Things could change though if something unexpected happens, but this is how things are for now panning out, just wanted to share, matches the time frame i've shared before about January-March doom.
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Hey Insert... I can see Greece being thrown out of the Euro by years end if not in the new year...

BTW, Greece will be the largest miner of Gold in the world by 2016 and this can bankroll the drahma again... If you add the Oil/Gas/Rare Earth material reserve it is the richest country in Eurozone.

Dont you wonder why Greece is lumped in with other countries that "also have rich reserves???" but are classified as failed economies or terrorist states? Western MSM BS at its best.

Israel needs Greece/Cyprus to build the pipeline to bring Gas to Europe otherwise its dead in the water (they really cant pump it to middle east as they have there own resource for energy).

So what is the west trying to get out of Greece/Cyprus? and why are they destroying these countries more than other clubmeds?

Could it be free rain to all pipelines/resources? I think so

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