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GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!

 
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Heard something similar about September and German elections from a friend who owns a big business, but who knows what will happen till then here, we had 4 different PM's in the last year, and we'll probably have at least two more rounds of austerity measures till then. I don't think that the current govt will last till May though, actually i'm surprised they reached till the end of the year.

Yes, Cyprus is Greece's sister, so maybe there's still hope coz things are shit there according to the troika, hehe. They have a very small economy, 18 BN debt, dunnno if this can kick-start a serious domino. Actually Cyprus situation is a bit weird, 80% debt/GDP, 1,5BN deficit and the average Cypriot is wealthier than the average Greek, at least they were when they had the lira. Surprise surprise though, big nat. gas deposits in Cyprus too and already drilling. The only EU countries under total foreign control are now Greece and Cyprus.
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I just watched this video:



It looks as though our german banks are very fragile. It might not start in Greece but here.

Wherever it starts, it's going to happen soon in the next 2-3 years at least.

Maybe it starts in Japan, but once a major economy and its currency goes down it will take all the rest with it.

He is also predicting war. I am sceptical of that. Maybe in Asia, but I am not seeing it in Europe.
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I just watched this video:

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

It looks as though our german banks are very fragile. It might not start in Greece but here.

Wherever it starts, it's going to happen soon in the next 2-3 years at least.

Maybe it starts in Japan, but once a major economy and its currency goes down it will take all the rest with it.

He is also predicting war. I am sceptical of that. Maybe in Asia, but I am not seeing it in Europe.
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Thnx for vid. It would be a great surprise if it starts from such a big economy tbh. We know here from some non-mainstream Greek economists who have been saying that German banks are not doing well, but MSM propaganda tried to focus more on Greece's scapegoating than the real problem of this crisis which is obviously that European banks are leveraged as fuck, they just gave away too much money.

Agree that the complete crash will take place in the next 2 years and unfortunately war too, these two come hand in hand, already started in the ME, but i believe that we'll see conflicts in the Balkans and eastern Europe too, dunno about western Europe, secession movements will deffo take place but i'm not sure if we'll see an armed conflict too.
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The famous Lagarde list is finally here. Some say that 600 names have been removed from the precious one. We'll find out soon i guess if they don't "lose" the list again.
[link to translate.google.gr]

Buying Back Greek Debt Rewarded Hedge Funds
[link to www.nytimes.com]

Greece Has Very Little To Default On Over The Next Decade - Goldman Sachs
[link to www.efxnews.com]

Germany warns Britain not to 'blackmail' Europe
[link to www.thelocal.de]

Prosecutor orders investigation into shortage of medicines in Greece
[link to www.ekathimerini.com]


Fatty Pagalos said that citizens are to blame for the mess we are today. Not that the citizens are saints but wtf. blink
They found 1% of the total Greek debt in the accounts of the ex-defense minister, imagine if they find 50 guys more like him.

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Greece Should Write Off Billions of Overdue Taxes, Report Says - BBG... not all taxes in perpetuity?
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Greece Should Write Off Billions of Overdue Taxes, Report Says - BBG... not all taxes in perpetuity?
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Hey Luis whats up? hf

Greece not doing enough against rich tax dodgers: EU/IMF
[link to economictimes.indiatimes.com]
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Greece Should Write Off Billions of Overdue Taxes, Report Says - BBG... not all taxes in perpetuity?
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Hey Luis whats up? hf

Greece not doing enough against rich tax dodgers: EU/IMF
[link to economictimes.indiatimes.com]
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Hello my friend how are you? In this moment i'm totally focussed in this polar vortex collapse threat, do you see my thread? Thread: 2013 Polar Vortex Collapsing; Complete Disintegration Possible!!! US, North Europe, Midle East Hit!!! (Page 6)
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Hello my friend how are you? In this moment i'm totally focussed in this polar vortex collapse threat, do you see my thread? Thread: 2013 Polar Vortex Collapsing; Complete Disintegration Possible!!! US, North Europe, Midle East Hit!!! (Page 6)
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Doing good, hope all is well with you too. I'll have a look on the polardoom thread.
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Merry Christmas to you too. blink
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lolsign
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A Dose of Its Own Medicine, Schäuble's Secret Austerity Plan for Germany
[link to www.spiegel.de]

Britain feels strain as austerity bites
[link to money.cnn.com]

Harsh austerity budget passed in France
[link to europeandaily.com]

Italy: Mario Monti resigns as austerity budget passed
[link to europeandaily.com]

Spain passes massive austerity cutbacks
[link to www.thejournal.ie]

Ireland unveils another austerity budget
[link to thenepoproject.org]

ECB Chief Draghi Defends Austerity Measures
[link to www.nasdaq.com]

Austeritytards.
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Re: GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!
I just watched this video:

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

It looks as though our german banks are very fragile. It might not start in Greece but here.

Wherever it starts, it's going to happen soon in the next 2-3 years at least.

Maybe it starts in Japan, but once a major economy and its currency goes down it will take all the rest with it.

He is also predicting war. I am sceptical of that. Maybe in Asia, but I am not seeing it in Europe.
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Thnx for vid. It would be a great surprise if it starts from such a big economy tbh. We know here from some non-mainstream Greek economists who have been saying that German banks are not doing well, but MSM propaganda tried to focus more on Greece's scapegoating than the real problem of this crisis which is obviously that European banks are leveraged as fuck, they just gave away too much money.

Agree that the complete crash will take place in the next 2 years and unfortunately war too, these two come hand in hand, already started in the ME, but i believe that we'll see conflicts in the Balkans and eastern Europe too, dunno about western Europe, secession movements will deffo take place but i'm not sure if we'll see an armed conflict too.
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Japan is in serious trouble.

The things he mentioned in the video that are dangerous already came to pass. And the video is only 2 months old. Who knows, but it could be soon.

There could be war between Greece and Turkey. I don't trust the turks. They are very aggressive and deceitful. I would not be surprised if they use Greece's weak position.
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A Dose of Its Own Medicine, Schäuble's Secret Austerity Plan for Germany
[link to www.spiegel.de]

Britain feels strain as austerity bites
[link to money.cnn.com]

Harsh austerity budget passed in France
[link to europeandaily.com]

Italy: Mario Monti resigns as austerity budget passed
[link to europeandaily.com]

Spain passes massive austerity cutbacks
[link to www.thejournal.ie]

Ireland unveils another austerity budget
[link to thenepoproject.org]

ECB Chief Draghi Defends Austerity Measures
[link to www.nasdaq.com]

Austeritytards.
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When politicians start doing such unpopular things, you know we are in serious trouble.

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Japan is in serious trouble.

The things he mentioned in the video that are dangerous already came to pass. And the video is only 2 months old. Who knows, but it could be soon.

There could be war between Greece and Turkey. I don't trust the turks. They are very aggressive and deceitful. I would not be surprised if they use Greece's weak position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Yep Japanese economy not doing good but it's not doing good since the 80's, but their debt has reached some scary numbers the last years. China will try to take advantage of the situation methinks. Turkey too obviously, i'm not convinced by Erdogan's "democratic" and political islam values, deep state is very very deep, aggressive and very fascist there since before ww1 and they always pushing all these years with various means, it will be interesting.


When politicians start doing such unpopular things, you know we are in serious trouble.

hiding
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And so it begins, hehe.yoda
We are in trouble no doubt, very interesting that most countries in EU implemented austerity this past week, would expect this to be bigger news tbh.
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Turkey: A total of 16 islands in the Aegean and Mediterranean have illegally been appropriated by Greece on account of the Turkish government's negligence, say a number of pundits. There are 152 islands and islets of which the ownership is controversial.
[link to www.todayszaman.com]

Molon labe. yoda

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Spiegel: Schäuble's Secret Austerity Plan for Germany [link to DON'T_USE-THIS]
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Spiegel: Schäuble's Secret Austerity Plan for Germany [link to DON'T_USE-THIS]
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A Dose of Its Own Medicine, Schäuble's Secret Austerity Plan for Germany
[link to www.spiegel.de]
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GREEK BANK RECAP AIMS TO RESTORE MARKET CONFIDENCE: CEN BANK. cue Bazooko Circus


28 minzerohedge‏@zerohedge

BANK OF GREECE SAYS GREEK BANKS NEED EU40.5B IN ADDED CAPITAL. Which bailout is this?
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just in


The "new" Lagarde list came and after the investigation for the missing names in it (from the one that we got on 2010) guess what they found?

That former Minister for Finance George Papakonstantinou relatives names, are missing from this list.

lolsign 1rof1

Of course Papakonstantinou says he knows nothing and has done nothing etc etc

This list contains the names of around 2000 Greeks with bank accounts at the Swiss branch of HSBC and it was leaked to the media in late October

Papakonstantinou back then claimed he "lost" the first list

tomato

well, right now the phones are on fire, the political parties call for meetings and we will see how it will turn out
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just in


The "new" Lagarde list came and after the investigation for the missing names in it (from the one that we got on 2010) guess what they found?

That former Minister for Finance George Papakonstantinou relatives names, are missing from this list.

lolsign 1rof1

Of course Papakonstantinou says he knows nothing and has done nothing etc etc

This list contains the names of around 2000 Greeks with bank accounts at the Swiss branch of HSBC and it was leaked to the media in late October

Papakonstantinou back then claimed he "lost" the first list

tomato

well, right now the phones are on fire, the political parties call for meetings and we will see how it will turn out
 Quoting: Ostria1


Thnx for the heads up Ostria. This Papakonstantinou dude seems very well connected with the international criminal business/banking elite although he doesn't strike you as this kind of guy. He's been in a lot of shit the last 3-4 years. He wouldn't be walking free still in the most countries of this planet. He's on a roll.

Lagarde mess
[link to translate.google.gr]

A research about the Greek elite by Stern magazine was also an interesting read, although Greeks already know most this stuff. Seems we reached the point of conflict between the Greek elite and the troika.
[link to translate.google.gr]
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Thnx for the heads up Ostria. This Papakonstantinou dude seems very well connected with the international criminal business/banking elite although he doesn't strike you as this kind of guy. He's been in a lot of shit the last 3-4 years. He wouldn't be walking free still in the most countries of this planet. He's on a roll.

Lagarde mess
[link to translate.google.gr]

A research about the Greek elite by Stern magazine was also an interesting read, although Greeks already know most this stuff. Seems we reached the point of conflict between the Greek elite and the troika.
[link to translate.google.gr]
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hmmm interesting.. bale sky (skai)

it seems that the 2 names are his cousins.. well we will see

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hmmm interesting.. bale sky (skai)

it seems that the 2 names are his cousins.. well we will see
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Lost it, i was eating, hehe. What were they saying? Anything interesting?
Link above says 3 of his cousins and a wife, lol. Papakonstantinou's are a lovely family for sure, they've been collaborating with the nazi-occupation govt back in the 40's and they bought and were handed to them lots of businesses and privileges.
Once a traitor, always a traitor.
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hmmm interesting.. bale sky (skai)

it seems that the 2 names are his cousins.. well we will see
 Quoting: Ostria1


Lost it, i was eating, hehe. What were they saying? Anything interesting?
Link above says 3 of his cousins and a wife, lol. Papakonstantinou's are a lovely family for sure, they've been collaborating with the nazi-occupation govt back in the 40's and they bought and were handed to them lots of businesses and privileges.
Once a traitor, always a traitor.
damned
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its still on TV
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BBC: Athens - the EU capital city without a mosque
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Btw despite the usual BBC multiculti disinfo, there is already a 6,000 square meter mosque in Athens, built by a rich Saudi in 2007-2009 that can accommodate more than 2,000 worshippers at a time and there are about 30 others organized mosques but smaller, and about 100 more unofficial praying sites.
[link to www.gatestoneinstitute.org]
[link to translate.google.gr]

Muslims just want a giant one built with Greek taxpayers money as i see it. I believe we can spend the 15-20 million needed for this super-mosque in a much better way given the financial mess we are in like some schools in Macedonia that will remain closed in the new year coz they can't afford heating ffs or give the 10 million to Elefsina shipyard that is about to close too and is a major and much needed industrial infrastructure of the country and i can find 1000 more ways to spend this sum properly if we had that kind of money in the first place.

Don't wanna sound mean or racist, but first things first imo. This story is more of an obvious political and cultural message than a need for a mosque per se, for example Turkey is asking a mosque in Athens in exchange for the opening of the Halki theological school in Istanbul, lol, like these 2 situations are even comparable ffs, let alone that Turkey keeps bringing all the immigrants and the illegals here in an organized state-sponsored manner that keep sinking us in a bigger financial mess and to top this off they asking for Greek islands that are under Crete like Gaydos and Gaidouronisi, hundreds of km's away from their shores. We are in a big friggin mess imo.

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More troika vs Greek elite bashing.

R**ters Special Report: Greece's triangle of power
[link to www.phantis.com]
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china is never a threat to japan, it's the other way around, hopefully japanese (and the amercians) are not going to start a war to get out of their own problem. 19-20 millions killed in china and millions more in korea, indonesia ... they never repaid anything, nor was it written in their textbook. No wonder they were hated in asia, and korea and japan don't even import from each other
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Thread: France’s constitutional council has struck down a top income tax rate of 75% introduced by Socialist President Francois Hollande
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Monti to Head Centrist List in Italy Senate Race: here is Italy's chance to officially elect a Goldmanite into office.
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ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I'll go to live under a rock in some african country then
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Monti to Head Centrist List in Italy Senate Race: here is Italy's chance to officially elect a Goldmanite into office.
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ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I'll go to live under a rock in some african country then
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Monti to Head Centrist List in Italy Senate Race: here is Italy's chance to officially elect a Goldmanite into office.
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ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I'll go to live under a rock in some african country then
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Berlusconi accuses Monti of plot with Italy's centre left [link to twitter.com (secure)]

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