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GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!

 
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The y is preparing for civil war, or a coup...
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Not at all. It is just a message for the other side which is making exercises for landing on island and for passing over a wide river.
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That's even worse!
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The y is preparing for civil war, or a coup...
 Quoting: Luisport


Not at all. It is just a message for the other side which is making exercises for landing on island and for passing over a wide river.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16062213


That's even worse!
 Quoting: Luisport


Yeap, but a warning must be given. It's not any kind of escalation though. It was a non preplanned exercise.
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The y is preparing for civil war, or a coup...
 Quoting: Luisport


Not at all. It is just a message for the other side which is making exercises for landing on island and for passing over a wide river.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16062213


That's even worse!
 Quoting: Luisport


Yeap, but a warning must be given. It's not any kind of escalation though. It was a non preplanned exercise.
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Given the circumstances in Greece i would say that any army moove is dangerous...
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A Dutch business news radio station reports that there are claims that since this morning already 1 billion Euro is taken off the banks by consumers.
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A Dutch business news radio station reports that there are claims that since this morning already 1 billion Euro is taken off the banks by consumers.
 Quoting: Ravan


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Samaras Says Must Change Terms of Greek Bailout

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Greece may be sued by investors if it repays foreign- law bonds: James Campbell of Pillsbury Winthrop
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Here's the link btw

The header says: Greek en masse take money from their banks.

[link to www.bnr.nl]

Apparently the station has a reporter in Athens, and he's reporting about this 'bank run' and the sense of a slicht panic.

If the Greek promise to stop beating up Dutch tourists, I'll book a flight to their country this Summer and bring some euro's to spend.

It's a brave move from the Greek, but one that will hurt a lot.
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Bit strange isn't it seeing as though they clearly couldn't afford petrol or bullets.
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They are going to start printing their own money soon. They can afford what they want if they have enough ink. They just aren't going to pay back the Europeans . I think they are the smart ones.
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Bit strange isn't it seeing as though they clearly couldn't afford petrol or bullets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16029710

They are going to start printing their own money soon. They can afford what they want if they have enough ink. They just aren't going to pay back the Europeans . I think they are the smart ones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15738519


Exactly.

The Greek economy has no viable export, but needs to import almost anything. Print your own money, make your country attractive for tourism and be independent once again.
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Bit strange isn't it seeing as though they clearly couldn't afford petrol or bullets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16029710

They are going to start printing their own money soon. They can afford what they want if they have enough ink. They just aren't going to pay back the Europeans . I think they are the smart ones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15738519


Exactly.

The Greek economy has no viable export, but needs to import almost anything. Print your own money, make your country attractive for tourism and be independent once again.
 Quoting: Ravan


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Here is the math: Greece has €1 billion in cash and about €500 billion in total debt. Oh, and budget deficit
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EURO in near lows again!
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A Dutch business news radio station reports that there are claims that since this morning already 1 billion Euro is taken off the banks by consumers.
 Quoting: Ravan


This is probably from fears that the radical left party SYRIZA will confiscate all of the deposits if they get elected. I wonder how I would be able to live if they confiscate the last of my savings, especially since I am unemployed at the moment. They will do that because they want to pay the civil servants which are 90% voters of PASOK (which have turned to SYRIZA by now), SYRIZA or of the Greek Commie Party (KKE). This could bring strong tensions since confiscating the money of all the others that are working in under cruel circumstances in the private sector in order to please 600,000 civil servants isn't rational at all!
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NEW EURO LOWS!!!!!
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1.27646!!!bump
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Greek President Says Greeks Withdrew 700 Million Euros in Savings since May 6 election. Bank Run
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A Dutch business news radio station reports that there are claims that since this morning already 1 billion Euro is taken off the banks by consumers.
 Quoting: Ravan


This is probably from fears that the radical left party SYRIZA will confiscate all of the deposits if they get elected. I wonder how I would be able to live if they confiscate the last of my savings, especially since I am unemployed at the moment. They will do that because they want to pay the civil servants which are 90% voters of PASOK (which have turned to SYRIZA by now), SYRIZA or of the Greek Commie Party (KKE). This could bring strong tensions since confiscating the money of all the others that are working in under cruel circumstances in the private sector in order to please 600,000 civil servants isn't rational at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16062213


Well, if you have to fire 600,000 civil servants cause the State is broke you'll have a problem.

If you have to pay your civil servants from the money you extract from your citizens by crazy taxes and other theft, you, as a State, will see a revolution.

Fire the servants, make way for the private sector.
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A Dutch business news radio station reports that there are claims that since this morning already 1 billion Euro is taken off the banks by consumers.
 Quoting: Ravan


This is probably from fears that the radical left party SYRIZA will confiscate all of the deposits if they get elected. I wonder how I would be able to live if they confiscate the last of my savings, especially since I am unemployed at the moment. They will do that because they want to pay the civil servants which are 90% voters of PASOK (which have turned to SYRIZA by now), SYRIZA or of the Greek Commie Party (KKE). This could bring strong tensions since confiscating the money of all the others that are working in under cruel circumstances in the private sector in order to please 600,000 civil servants isn't rational at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16062213


Well, if you have to fire 600,000 civil servants cause the State is broke you'll have a problem.

If you have to pay your civil servants from the money you extract from your citizens by crazy taxes and other theft, you, as a State, will see a revolution.

Fire the servants, make way for the private sector.
 Quoting: Ravan


They don't have money to pay reforms and salaries...
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A Dutch business news radio station reports that there are claims that since this morning already 1 billion Euro is taken off the banks by consumers.
 Quoting: Ravan


This is probably from fears that the radical left party SYRIZA will confiscate all of the deposits if they get elected. I wonder how I would be able to live if they confiscate the last of my savings, especially since I am unemployed at the moment. They will do that because they want to pay the civil servants which are 90% voters of PASOK (which have turned to SYRIZA by now), SYRIZA or of the Greek Commie Party (KKE). This could bring strong tensions since confiscating the money of all the others that are working in under cruel circumstances in the private sector in order to please 600,000 civil servants isn't rational at all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16062213


Well, if you have to fire 600,000 civil servants cause the State is broke you'll have a problem.

If you have to pay your civil servants from the money you extract from your citizens by crazy taxes and other theft, you, as a State, will see a revolution.

Fire the servants, make way for the private sector.
 Quoting: Ravan


They don't have money to pay reforms and salaries...
 Quoting: Luisport


Well, printing your own currency at least allows you to get money on the streets and make it flow.

Now, nobody has euro's, and nobody is allowed to print some extra to make it flow.
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Greece: Solution is simple:
1. restore independence
- currency
- constitution
- borders control.

2. Regain control of what is possible among the assets that greek traitors transfered to illuminati accounts (real estate, firms)

3. Seek protection under Russia's shield from NATziO bombs

====>>>
to get how the illuminati steal assets from "countries" "ruled" by their puppets all you need is to get how they steal the Euromillions jackpot, which is exactly the same way the Megamilliions is rigged

[link to www.scam.com]
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Major Greek tv broadcaster attacked with #oloimega tag. People in Greece are protesting against its propaganda!
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ECB is pulling back from Greek banks according to the Dutch authoritive Financial Newspaper

**snippet Google translation**

The European Central Bank (ECB) is rapidly pulling back from Greece. Many Greek banks are so weak that the ECB is not responsible for them to continue to provide financial support. More and more risks are therefore at the Greek central bank deposited.

**/snippet**

Link, use translation service to read the article in English

[link to fd.nl]

The Greek banks are on their own now. No more help from the ECB.
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ECB is pulling back from Greek banks according to the Dutch authoritive Financial Newspaper

**snippet Google translation**

The European Central Bank (ECB) is rapidly pulling back from Greece. Many Greek banks are so weak that the ECB is not responsible for them to continue to provide financial support. More and more risks are therefore at the Greek central bank deposited.

**/snippet**

Link, use translation service to read the article in English

[link to fd.nl]

The Greek banks are on their own now. No more help from the ECB.
 Quoting: Ravan


My God they will be finished in days!
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Turkey will invade.
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Thats the main concern...thats why all these sudden exercises.They are afraid of Turkey who started drilling in the aegean for oil and natural gas.

Things are very critical in Greece right now.
Coup or out of the euro or Turkey...everybody feels something bad will happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16091436


I think a coup is very likely scenario especially the last few days. Turkey I think is just playing a game to show its strength. They already have enough trouble on their eastern borders with PKK and Syria
 Quoting: Foveras


^This^
Turkish gov has been given orders to take Syria.
Many people here feel sory for the Greece' situation and for Greek people.
Besides both countries are from Nato. I am not saying a war between Turkey and Greece could never happen but it was more likely 15-20 years ago than today. But who knows what tomorrow will bring, we live in a period where things change very quickly.
But i think a coup in Greece would put the current Turkish gov. into panic mode not because of Greece army but because of Turkish army.
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Could it be thats the reason Putin didnt show up to the g-8 meeting... soon as Greece pulls out the EU, Russia attacks
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Could it be thats the reason Putin didnt show up to the g-8 meeting... soon as Greece pulls out the EU, Russia attacks
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as in russian troops being sent to greece
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Major Greek tv broadcaster attacked with #oloimega tag. People in Greece are protesting against its propaganda!
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Theodora Oikonomides&#8207;@IrateGreek

Mega TV forged riot sounds on the video of the murder of A Grigoropoulos in 2008. This is why we protest #oloimega
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1 min Diane Shugart&#8207;@dianalizia

tsipras 2nd in VPRC poll, with 47% approval rating followed by venizelos 31%, kammenos 30%, samaras 29%, papariga 17%, mihaloliakos 7%

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food for thought from VPRC poll for epikaira: kouvelis has highest approval rating among all pols and at 53% is only one with + rating
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VPRC/Epikaira opinion poll (voter intention): Syriza 20.3;ND 14.2;Pasok 10.9;DemLeft 6.1;KKE 4.4;IndGreeks 3.7;GD 2.2 [link to www.athensnews.gr]
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Greece calls for repeat elections on June 17





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