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GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!

 
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
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Can you repeat that?
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Yes... she says that people are in panik taking money from banks with the afraid of Syriza and the possible go out of euro...
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


Can you repeat that?
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Yes... she says that people are in panik taking money from banks with the afraid of Syriza and the possible go out of euro...
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In Portugal?
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


Can you repeat that?
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Yes... she says that people are in panik taking money from banks with the afraid of Syriza and the possible go out of euro...
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See this is all it takes to implode the economy!!! The elections are really irrelivant in many ways, but if people panic they can bring the whole thing down!!
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


Can you repeat that?
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Yes... she says that people are in panik taking money from banks with the afraid of Syriza and the possible go out of euro...
 Quoting: Luisport
The reporter is in Athens making reportage to our state TV

In Portugal?
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I hope Greece leaves the Eurozone and get's the collapse of this corrupt financial system worldwide started. Enough already.

I can guarantee all the buried bodies will start to turn up when this process finally begins. There will be a tidal wave of disclosure that will send all peoples into the street and after the BANKSTERS. I can't wait.

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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


It will be a tight battle no doubt about that. But especially in Athens ND is fucked. Last time Syriza had twice the votes in Athens and this time polls saying the spread might be even bigger. ND had a clear lead in the countryside where things are not bad. Life is cheaper and the quality of life is far better. In the big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra Syriza wins by a very large margin because life there has become unbearable. No chance in hell that ND will win in Athens.
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


It will be a tight battle no doubt about that. But especially in Athens ND is fucked. Last time Syriza had twice the votes in Athens and this time polls saying the spread might be even bigger. ND had a clear lead in the countryside where things are not bad. Life is cheaper and the quality of life is far better. In the big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra Syriza wins by a very large margin because life there has become unbearable. No chance in hell that ND will win in Athens.
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Do you think that there are any chance of cheating results?
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


It will be a tight battle no doubt about that. But especially in Athens ND is fucked. Last time Syriza had twice the votes in Athens and this time polls saying the spread might be even bigger. ND had a clear lead in the countryside where things are not bad. Life is cheaper and the quality of life is far better. In the big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra Syriza wins by a very large margin because life there has become unbearable. No chance in hell that ND will win in Athens.
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The Greeks and all other peoples of the world should wise up. It is just a matter of time(a short time) before the entire corrupt system comes crashing down. I say sooner instead of later because the EU and IMF are just trying to secure what gold and few assets these countries have left before they pull the plug. Wake up Greeks.
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


It will be a tight battle no doubt about that. But especially in Athens ND is fucked. Last time Syriza had twice the votes in Athens and this time polls saying the spread might be even bigger. ND had a clear lead in the countryside where things are not bad. Life is cheaper and the quality of life is far better. In the big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra Syriza wins by a very large margin because life there has become unbearable. No chance in hell that ND will win in Athens.
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Do you think that there are any chance of cheating results?
 Quoting: Luisport


Not to a big degree. Maybe 1% but thats about it. Paper ballot here in Greece. Had two friends working in the last elections. They were counting votes one by one. My best mate spent something like 18 hours in there.lolsign
Every party has a representative in the counting of the votes in all of the voting stations and they are there monitoring the counting of the votes so this is not very likely. If some representative objects they start the counting all over again one by one. Only fraud that they have committed is nationalizing and giving visas to immigrants. PASOK famously does that in the last 5 years and did it in the last elections too.
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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


It will be a tight battle no doubt about that. But especially in Athens ND is fucked. Last time Syriza had twice the votes in Athens and this time polls saying the spread might be even bigger. ND had a clear lead in the countryside where things are not bad. Life is cheaper and the quality of life is far better. In the big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra Syriza wins by a very large margin because life there has become unbearable. No chance in hell that ND will win in Athens.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


The Greeks and all other peoples of the world should wise up. It is just a matter of time(a short time) before the entire corrupt system comes crashing down. I say sooner instead of later because the EU and IMF are just trying to secure what gold and few assets these countries have left before they pull the plug. Wake up Greeks.
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+1000
We need to wake up. TSHTF with the people in power. Only positive thing from this crisis here in Greece is that a lot of people have waken up and learned more about their rights.
We didn't give a shit about these things and now we know about economy,CDS,CACS, EFSF, constitutional-unconstitunional, laws we never thought we learn about etc. We learned a lot and meself personally completely changed my views about what is important in this life and what is not. We need to redefine our values completely, the human kind was not supposed to live like this.
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Tsipras quote yesterday from his speech in Thessaloniki:

"Enough mrs.Merkel! They did not manage things by themselves, withdraw your puppets from here and come to take part in the Greek elections yourself"
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Tsipras quote yesterday from his speech in Thessaloniki:

"Enough mrs.Merkel! They did not manage things by themselves, withdraw your puppets from here and come to take part in the Greek elections yourself"
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resist
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Fear will play part in tomorrow's #Greece2012 elections but opinion divided on whether it will have decisive role [link to buswk.co]
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Merkel Makes Her Final Plea To Greece Before Tomorrow's Election

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I'm just seeing live news from portuguese reporter in Athens and all people say ND will win and everyone have afraid from leave Euro...
 Quoting: Luisport


It will be a tight battle no doubt about that. But especially in Athens ND is fucked. Last time Syriza had twice the votes in Athens and this time polls saying the spread might be even bigger. ND had a clear lead in the countryside where things are not bad. Life is cheaper and the quality of life is far better. In the big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra Syriza wins by a very large margin because life there has become unbearable. No chance in hell that ND will win in Athens.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


The Greeks and all other peoples of the world should wise up. It is just a matter of time(a short time) before the entire corrupt system comes crashing down. I say sooner instead of later because the EU and IMF are just trying to secure what gold and few assets these countries have left before they pull the plug. Wake up Greeks.
 Quoting: grefey


+1000
We need to wake up. TSHTF with the people in power. Only positive thing from this crisis here in Greece is that a lot of people have waken up and learned more about their rights.
We didn't give a shit about these things and now we know about economy,CDS,CACS, EFSF, constitutional-unconstitunional, laws we never thought we learn about etc. We learned a lot and meself personally completely changed my views about what is important in this life and what is not. We need to redefine our values completely, the human kind was not supposed to live like this.
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Truer words were never spoken. I have always thought there was something strange about this planet. I could not understand why everything was so dysfunctional. Well, I know now and it is because of the elites and how they ahve traumatized humanity over the ages, through wars, religion, abuse of all types. Most people are descent but controlled by fear. Once you understand what is going on a lot of this fear goes away. I can attest to this, as my learning and facing what really happened on 911 was difficult but sure as hell woke me up.

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Greek newspaper gives scream broke survival! A symbol of Greek drama. A newspaper failed by mismanagement newsstands now back in a desperate attempt to attract capital.

In a last breath of life, Eleftherotypia, the second largest Greek daily returns newsstands today, after having been closed on last December 22, leaving about 800 employees with unpaid wages since August 2011.

"This is a final special edition for everyone to know that we are still here at this crucial moment in our history," explains Yannis Triadis, a columnist with the newspaper. One issue to try to attract capital, showing the vitality of the project and the despair of the journalists to continue.

It is a typical story of Greece today, loaded with symbolism for the moment that the country is experiencing. "For years, there have been a large number of management errors in the newspaper. Everyone knew what was happening and nobody did anything to solve it, "says a Triadis, without realizing what could be speaking of his own country. "One day the newspaper died," he says.

Greece goes to the polls Sunday in a dizzy maze of stories of mismanagement (in Athens but also crisis management in Europe), that everyone seemed to know, but in the middle of a road cushioned European integration helped, nobody did anything. The journalists could not pick and were surprised by the closure, but tomorrow the Greeks increasingly on their own, will have to decide. Or follow the rocky path of adjustment and uncertain, thus ensuring the promise of international funding at the expense of great pain, a wound open social combing two years ago that has not stopped bleeding. Or follow another path also uncertain, self-determination in relation to its creditors, risking losing external funding and eventually killed by the European family.

The newspaper was abandoned by lenders for almost a year. And journalists, most of which is identified with the center left, decided at a meeting of about 120 writers, go to this special issue by appointing a committee of self-management to conduct the work. Yesterday, Triadis and colleagues gesticulated and shouted, avid editing frenzy that had not for many months. The first page ran by all, with heated discussions around each word, upon the ears of the pager and the mix too many cigarettes.

All this in a huge building for a newspaper, perhaps greater than the Agency Luso in Lisbon, where he once worked about 800 employees, including editing, production and printing. The team of editors met again, occupying offices empty, abandoned computers. "Now solution" was the headline chosen. The thinking in the country but also in the newspaper.
[link to economico.sapo.pt]
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I have to say this. From my modest knowledge of history and philosophy there are none better than the Greeks so please rise to the occasion.
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Merkel Makes Her Final Plea To Greece Before Tomorrow's Election

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Yeaaah, got worried a bit when our dear chancellor didn't say anything yesterday. Juncker also 'friendly' suggest to us to vote 'wisely' in the Austrian newspaper Kurier today.
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It will be a tight battle no doubt about that. But especially in Athens ND is fucked. Last time Syriza had twice the votes in Athens and this time polls saying the spread might be even bigger. ND had a clear lead in the countryside where things are not bad. Life is cheaper and the quality of life is far better. In the big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra Syriza wins by a very large margin because life there has become unbearable. No chance in hell that ND will win in Athens.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


The Greeks and all other peoples of the world should wise up. It is just a matter of time(a short time) before the entire corrupt system comes crashing down. I say sooner instead of later because the EU and IMF are just trying to secure what gold and few assets these countries have left before they pull the plug. Wake up Greeks.
 Quoting: grefey


+1000
We need to wake up. TSHTF with the people in power. Only positive thing from this crisis here in Greece is that a lot of people have waken up and learned more about their rights.
We didn't give a shit about these things and now we know about economy,CDS,CACS, EFSF, constitutional-unconstitunional, laws we never thought we learn about etc. We learned a lot and meself personally completely changed my views about what is important in this life and what is not. We need to redefine our values completely, the human kind was not supposed to live like this.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Truer words were never spoken. I have always thought there was something strange about this planet. I could not understand why everything was so dysfunctional. Well, I know now and it is because of the elites and how they ahve traumatized humanity over the ages, through wars, religion, abuse of all types. Most people are descent but controlled by fear. Once you understand what is going on a lot of this fear goes away. I can attest to this, as my learning and facing what really happened on 911 was difficult but sure as hell woke me up.

bump
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Personally i thank god if there is one for the internet. We would all fighting wars till this day if this thing wasn't invented. It is our last and only weapon. Lots are not afraid anymore but the elite has made it so hard to escape from the matrix. Their teachings are so hard implemented to us that is either their way or eternal starvation and damnation. Sick times we live in, we have industrialized everything from simple things to our feelings. Catatonic consumerism mass hypnosis i call it. Half of the things we buy and work for we hardly need them. Humanity could have done so many things good for this planet, but instead 99% of the people are living in a constant provoked fear.
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For The Next 36 Hours, This Room Is The Center Of The World

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True that. I think this is the year. It is obvious they are prepare us for something big. I would like to share a prophetical article from telegraph from 2007. Go about in the middle of the article and read what the lads is saying there.
In contrast, the EU quite deliberately created the most dangerous credit bubble of all: EMU. And, whereas the mission of the Fed is to avoid a financial crisis, the mission of the ECB is to provoke one

Linkie here: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

It is so obvious they want to starve us so we will accept the further unification of Europe like it is our divine savior. This was designed by the beginning of the euro. They are playing their cards perfectly though, most sheeps can't see a damn thing.
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the sheep cant see anything,99% of people are BLIND,if you point out reality they start shaking with hatred,these are the same people that nailed christ to the cross

the ships going down,the US is fucked as well,we are heading for world wide revolution,food shortages,to be honest i am looking forward to it,the worlds a mess and needs to change,its going to bet far worse before it gets better though.....

i will be watching the greek elections with interest
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There is something missing.

The core of a revolution is an "alternative" idea of how a society should look like that opposes the established system and the established elite.

I see no such idea anywhere .. and i will not count the "sharia" model of running a society as alternative.

No revolution.

A decline, a civil war over necessities, .. i can imagine all of that.

But a revolution .. won´t happen.
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1 h Diane Shugart‏@dianalizia

@maxw3st that's where one or more of them will have to eat their words--or go to elections again. voting v volatile; we'll see tomorrow.

1 h Diane Shugart‏@dianalizia

@maxw3st winning the election doesn't necessarily mean having the parliamentary majority to form a govt. that's the issue.

1 h Diane Shugart‏@dianalizia

@juan_uhp no light, just lots of tunnel (and for the first time i'm undecided so close to election day)
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The Grexit "plan" was laid out two weeks ago by JPM: the "plan" involves realizing an immediate €400bn in losses
 Quoting: Luisport


What?

'splain me, Luis. :)
 Quoting: Éireann


The 400bn is aprrox. Greece's public debt (355,6bn to be exact). The banks will take immediately that loss and depending on Greece's actions after that, they could take a new hit of about 200-250bn which is the private debt that Greek citizens and business have. The thing is though that if JPM planned that i bet it will be messy.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Holy shit. So this "global" hedge fund JPM is losing money from was linked to the Greek debt crisis?

Oh man! How st00pid are these people? Their casino games are hurting real people that don't deserve and of this crap. What the hell is an American financial planner doing buying up and then betting on another country's ability to pay her debt or the chance of another country coming to its rescue?

This makes no sense to me. Zero. It's criminal! It's unnecessary and does nothing to benefit humanity in any way shape or form. This is ludicrous.
 Quoting: Éireann

you think like..... Human:) humans still live in this world:)

they dont losing money they losing toilet paper (with interests and profits in toilet paper ofcourse) but for what? to take real wealth from greece..giant deposits of oil
(probably the bigger dep's on this planet), natural gas,
lot of wind, best sun (365 days a year), for free eco energy, many metals incuding aluninum, gold,let out the best
quality of food and fruits (when production is boosted again after the production disaster the EU have bring to greek economy slow by slow from 1979)

EU policies in greece from 1979 was take money and destroy
your production in everything so greece became depentant in the money from EU (remember greece is a establishing member
of EU from the start of the idea) and losing sovereignty
litle by litle.
EU has give to greece easy money for 10 years (average greek people have not see this money, its the corrupt politicians who have steal this money and the bankers)
and now is ready to take the real wealth of greece.

These ungratefull germans forget that greece had give them the first orders, after wwii, of supertankers production (by
Onassis) and their first submarines for greek navy starting
their war ships production after wwii, (let out the other weapons)
when no one was even looking at them (let out to give orders.

If they push it, there is only one option for greeks...

Spit out eu and bring Russia inside for the reborn of the new Byzantine Empire including all orthodox people together.
(Russia is ready for it, waiting).

Ofcourse, this is near wwiii

Is that what you wanted? (eu politicians prigs).

Well,. you are very near to take it.

Lot of greeks think more and more day by day the russian solution, as the only solution (including chinas support
in industrial production).
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I have to say this. From my modest knowledge of history and philosophy there are none better than the Greeks so please rise to the occasion.
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The birth place of democracy once again needs to lead the way into something new.

hf
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I have to say this. From my modest knowledge of history and philosophy there are none better than the Greeks so please rise to the occasion.
 Quoting: grefey


The birth place of democracy once again needs to lead the way into something new.

hf
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For those that don't know where or when democracy began:

"It was started when Athens and the citizens got in a big disagreement and made up a democracy

Democracy started in 508 B.C when an uprising in Athens, Greece led to the "rule of the people" or democracy. We know about the democracy in Athens because of the philosopher Plato.
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1-0 to the Greeks!

"Grexit" Doom off!

For now.
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New alert...... Possible Czechxit !

Defcon 1 !
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I have to say this. From my modest knowledge of history and philosophy there are none better than the Greeks so please rise to the occasion.
 Quoting: grefey


The birth place of democracy once again needs to lead the way into something new.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17984819


For those that don't know where or when democracy began:

"It was started when Athens and the citizens got in a big disagreement and made up a democracy

Democracy started in 508 B.C when an uprising in Athens, Greece led to the "rule of the people" or democracy. We know about the democracy in Athens because of the philosopher Plato.
"

Read more: [link to wiki.answers.com]
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Time to rise up again Greece! Here's the alternative:-

"Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it’s laws" Mater Amschel Rothschild

Don't let them take control because if you do then we're all doomed!
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Re: GREECE SITUATION UPDATES: The death of a 19-year-old Greek student has come to symbolize everything that's wrong with austerity!!!
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Democracy started in Greece and it's very fitting that it should end there and something new be born there.





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