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Its much better to be occupied by CHRIST as to be occupied by the Antichrist. Choose your side!

 
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"Evil rises up against good, it fights good, but in reality evil only exists insofar as the Creator has given evil the right to do so. Evil will disappear as soon as the Creator decides it should be so. Good is eternal and evil is transient, but we, human beings, do not have the power to make it disappear. Only the Lord Himself possesses this power. He does not need us, human beings - so weak, puny and ignorant - to help Him win over evil; indeed our weapons are so very ineffective. So, what can we do? Since only God can oppose evil, we must let Him in, let heaven penetrate us, manifest itself in us and work through us. Through us, God will see to it that good takes the place of evil."
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"Just because human beings do not see the invisible world does not mean that it is not there. This world is populated with entities, and it is through their thoughts and feelings that we enter into relationship with these beings and attract them. As long as people are not conscious that they can attract or repulse both luminous and evil spirits by means of their thoughts and feelings, they will continually be assailed by evil forces. Yes, you must take this reality seriously. Evil entities exist within and around us, and human beings who give themselves over to negative, chaotic thoughts and feelings finally attract them and become their victims. Learn to nourish harmonious thoughts and feelings within you so that you attract magnificent creatures. You do not see them, but their presence will manifest in you: you will feel yourself at peace, bathed in light, as if you embraced the whole of creation. And once you have experienced this, you will no longer be able to doubt."
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You christians are so small minded... Why would a god of infinite knowledge and possibility only create life on one planet and create en evil being to rule over the souls that he tricks into being bad?

Your entire religion could be thought up by a five year old.
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Sorry, I'll just be happy over here while you battle invisible daemons. Have a great life!
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"Just because human beings do not see the invisible world does not mean that it is not there. This world is populated with entities, and it is through their thoughts and feelings that we enter into relationship with these beings and attract them. As long as people are not conscious that they can attract or repulse both luminous and evil spirits by means of their thoughts and feelings, they will continually be assailed by evil forces. Yes, you must take this reality seriously. Evil entities exist within and around us, and human beings who give themselves over to negative, chaotic thoughts and feelings finally attract them and become their victims. Learn to nourish harmonious thoughts and feelings within you so that you attract magnificent creatures. You do not see them, but their presence will manifest in you: you will feel yourself at peace, bathed in light, as if you embraced the whole of creation. And once you have experienced this, you will no longer be able to doubt."
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OP, you're now effectively spamming this board.

Have a day off, perhaps.
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"We automatically associate good with God. It isn’t like that; good, like evil, is only a servant of God. God is not what is good; he is infinitely more than that. So stop wondering why he allows evil to exist. God allows everything, and that is because he uses everything.

And you too must understand how to use evil in the work you do, just like chemists, who discard nothing, because they know how to make use of all the products in their laboratory, even poisons – everything is needed in a laboratory. So we must model ourselves on the chemist. Since our inner laboratory contains both pure and impure, light and dark, elements that lift us up and others that drag us down, we should learn to use everything to achieve God’s plans. Be thankful that heaven created you just as you are, and set to work!"
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"Good needs evil if it is to be able to manifest itself. Without evil, good will go to sleep, because there is nothing left to stimulate it. Evil excites good, stimulates good and good is then able to manifest itself. It is thanks to evil that good is good. If ugliness did not exist we would not know how beautiful beauty is. And in the same way, if there were no evil, we would not know good.

If you want to annihilate evil, good will also be annihilated, because evil is like the roots of good and if you pull out these roots, the tree dies. Of course, this does not mean we should feed and strengthen evil. No, evil is strong enough already; it does not need us. But neither should we try to get rid of it, even if we could. What is important is to know which attitude to adopt towards it so that we may use it."

"The human being can do little to oppose the forces of evil when they begin to manifest within him. He possesses neither the knowledge nor the capabilities necessary to conquer them. The best solution, then, is to allow good and evil to co-exist, and to use the energy and extremely powerful elements contained in evil to stimulate the forces of good. This is precisely how a graft works. What does a gardener do? To the stem of a wild young pear tree whose fruit is inedible, for example, he attaches the branch of a pear tree of good quality which will benefit from the vigour of the wild tree. In the same way, each of us can attach branches of the tree of good to the tree of evil within ourselves. Just as the forces of evil always try to seize the forces of good for their own purposes, so the good has every right to draw on the forces of evil and to use them in its work."

"If we live in the sun, we will never experience darkness. But, symbolically, we left the sun and descended to earth and, because the earth turns around the sun, we are alternately in shadow and in light. As long as we remain outside the sun, we must accept this alternation: day and night, light and dark, activity and rest, good and evil. Not only must we accept it, but we must also know how to make use of it. For example, how do you make use of the night? It is wonderful: you sleep, you do nothing and, in the morning when you wake up, you have regained all your energy, you have rid yourself of wastes, and you are once again ready to work. Why then do you not learn to make use of your suffering and your obstacles? To make use of suffering, you must integrate it, that is to say you must incorporate it as raw material in your activities. As in chemistry, in which no substance, even the most toxic, is rejected, everything can be used for the good if we know how to proceed. "

"What is evil for some can be harmless or even good for others. Since some people live in the fire without being burned, fire is not something evil for them. Snake venom is deadly for human beings, while on certain animals it has no effect. Put still more simply, some people cannot tolerate the air (they catch cold) or the light (it irritates their eyes), and yet there is nothing better than air and light. It can be said, then, that anything human beings consider to be evil is not necessarily so. It may be disturbing and threatening to them at the time, because they are still weak or ill. What they express about it thus reflects only their personal conceptions and their ability to resist; it is a very relative judgement. Others, like the initiates, come to a different conclusion: because they have learned to make use of evil, they see it as something good."
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"It is a mistake to consider good and evil as two independent forces forever in conflict. The reality is that good and evil are two currents connected to a higher authority – God. The problem of good and evil will never be solved on the physical plane, for what brings these contrary forces together originates from above. At our own level, all we see is the clash between them. Our work, therefore, is to reach this higher authority, which knows how to make use of good and evil for a purpose even they have not been given to know.

Yes, good does not know everything, and neither does evil, of course. The One who does know everything is above good and evil. That One is the Lord. So, speak to him, and say, ‘Lord, you who have created so many things of beauty, vastness and profundity, you see me lost in their midst… With my limited intelligence, I am not able to see clearly. Send me your angels to tell me how to understand and how to act.’"
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"There are animals that can be captured very easily once they have eaten, as digestion makes them drowsy. In the same way, humans too can let themselves drift into drowsiness after certain meals and leave themselves open to being caught. These meals, which they consume on the lower astral and mental planes, are offered to them by the dark entities of the invisible world. And what meals they are, with a succession of dishes and wines they find particularly succulent. What are these dishes and wines? Ambition, sensuality, jealousy, vengeance, betrayal, hatred, and so on.

Every day, evil entities seek to tempt humans with feasts; that is to say, they draw them into their traps so as to catch them and drain them of their divine energies. So, do be careful; keep a check on yourself, and you will come to feel how precious the energies are which God placed within you, and you will make every effort to protect them and increase them."

"Those who do good are not always aware of their actions any more than those who do evil. Instinctively, without even thinking about it, they bring help and joy to others. But cosmic Intelligence wants men and women to be aware of the good and evil they do, so that they learn about the laws that govern the universe and their own lives. This is why it’s necessary, after death, for those who have unwittingly done good to not only feel but also see and understand what they have done. For in this, too, there are things they must understand, if they are to persevere with even more conviction on the path of good.

It is not enough to act correctly; you should learn to act with an awareness of causes, for then you will understand how the laws governing the universe work. This is why, on entering the other world, human beings discover in detail not only the good they have done but also how this good has affected others, and this is a wonderful lesson."
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Evil is limited, Good is limitless

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The problem of the personality and the individuality is one that lasts all our life... not only this lifetime but all our earthly incarnations. We often beleive we are being inspired from above when it is really only the personality trying to lure us into trouble. The individuality does its best to warn us of the consequences of listening to the personality, the inevitable consequences, but we prefer not to hear. That is the reason we should learn to observe ourselves all the time, ceaselessly inspecting each idea, each desire and impulse that occurs to us in order to determine their nature and the nature of the consequences entailed. Unfortunately most people prefer to let themselves go along with the personality instead of avoiding its advice, with the result that sooner or later they suffer, sooner or later they are faced with remorse and disillusionment. If you could see into people's hearts and hear their confessions, as I do, you would be appalled. I often am. The things I hear make me realize how ignorant most human beings are concerning their two natures and the respective manifestations of each.

A man thinks for instance, that he is the one to benefit when he satisfies his lower desires, but it is not so. It is other entities, whichever ones he has chosen to work for who benefit, but he does not see this until later, too late, when he has lost all his joy, his strength, his inspiration. The time comes when he realizes that he has spent his whole life working not for himself but for the personality and its friends, myriad invisible entities that surroung him without his knowing it, feeding on him as he gratifies their wishes. Then also comes the realization that he has left the immortal part of his being, his higher Self, to starve to death. Many entities feast on humans, too many to describe here. We have inherited them along with other things from the past and we drag them around with us as generations have done before us. If we could only see these entities, we would stop letting them take advantage of us and start working for beneficient creatures, the ones who would, on the contrary, increase our wealth and power, our real heritage.

Anyone who learns to observe himself discovers that after giving in to his desires, he feels robbed of all strength, lucidity, peace of mind... proving that others, not we, are the ones to benefit from our lower actions. If we were clairvoyant we would see millions and millions of entities who use us as they will, robbing us of our energy. I met a writer once who had an exaggerated idea of his importance as a result of having had a novel published, and I touched on this question of man and his two natures, divine and animal. When he heard me say that creatures in the invisible world treat humans the way humans have always treated animals, he became highly indigant; “What nonsense!” he cried, “I don't beleive a word of it”. I stared at him thinking that for a writer of note he was not terribly perspicacious, for what I had said was true. Men consider it perfectly normal to make slaves of animals, to skin them and sell their furs, kill them and sell their meat, without asking the animal's opinion! If they did, animals would have a lot to say on the subject of human cruelty and injustice. Is it then so incredible for other creatures to treat us the same way? Is it not logical? We are thrown a scrap to eat, we are used to labour in the fields, and in the end we are cut up into ham and sausages for supper! If we could see into the invisible world we would realize that all the nations, peoples and tribes of the world's history are represented, some of whom have little or no regard for humans and use them as we use animals... they drive them too hard, they sell them and skin them and kill them and devour them. This will one day be a recognized fact... in the meanwhile you have the privilege of being the first to know.

Now do you see how important it is to observe yourself, to analyze your thoughts, desires, hopes and plans for the future, inspecting them as a jeweller sorts out the gems tha are flawless from those of no value? When it comes to things like food, clothing, objets d'art, fruit or plants or flowers, men know a great deal about the different degrees of quality, and they admire qualities in people and things which are superior, they make a point of distinguishing between superior and inferior. It is not that some people prefer poverty to wealth, ugly women to pretty ones, rags to finery, no, what I am saying is that the Initiates base their knowledge on observation and they all agree that superior degrees, higher worlds exist, and that there is no limit to good, to excellence, we can always go higher. You cannot say about someone's intelligence, “Ah, he has reached the height of intelligence, he is wisest”, for there is no limit to wisdom or beauty, or goodness, or love. They are limitless and can be increased, augmented and perfected all the way to Infinity.

What about the opposite, things such as illness, misery, ugliness? Are inferior things also limitless and capable of expanding all the way to Infinity? No, there is a limit to evil, proven in physics by the fact that heat rises from 0 degrees celsius, to infinity, whereas cold cannot go lower than 273 degrees celsius below. The frozen particles block each other and pile up; when movement stops, the limit has been reached. Heat does the contrary, it dilates and expands the body, stirs the particles into movement and pushes back the limits of space. Space is infinite, it cannot be limited. We beleive ourselves limited because we have never tried to go beyond our own experience, we think we are limited in space but we are wrong: above there is no limit.

That is what led me to the conclusion that evil is limited in both time and space. God did not intend evil to endure. He did not endow it with lasting power as He did good: the power of good is unlimited. That is the difference between good and evil, the only real difference. People beleive them to be equally strong but they are not. The forces of Hell are not equal to the forces of Heaven. Therefore, in electing to go toward the positive pole, you enter into the realm of unlimited time and space, Infinity and Eternity, God Himself.

Morally therefore, we could say that those who choose the downward path, the personality and its weaknesses, disorder and chaos, are in fact choosing death and destruction. Little by little they are forced to disappear, they die because they are too tightly jammed together where there is no room: at the bottom of the inverted cone... where they can neither move nor breathe. The way of individuality, the ascending path, gives them more and more freedom as they climb into the vast regions of space. All truly intelligent people choose that path, in order to avoid colliding with others and creating situations in which they are wounded and wound others. The alternative is to climb high into unlimited space and... freedom. The path leading downward limits one more and more until there is no alternative to destroying one another in the fight for space which is so vital.

If you try living for a day or two in complete chaos, you will see that one by one all your luminous, positive and beneficient forces leave you, while other, negative presences take their place: you find yourself in the dark, weighed down, uninspired and rigid. When you feel that way, you can be sure (it is a warning) that the space around you is shrinking.

You know what it is like to be caught in a crowd in the street, the theatre, the underground, you feel trapped, afraid of suffocating to death... and when at last you emerge onto the street, you heave a sigh of relief at being able to breathe freely again. Well, the same thing happens in the spiritual world. It is strange that these experiences are common to all of us yet we never seem to learn from them, nor act upon them. If you have a feeling you are trapped, pushed in a corner, you must say to yourself immediatly, “Oh! I must have taken a wrong turning, I have lost my way! Now I will do everything to get back on the right path...” We all become lost now and then for a few hours... or days, or years... yes, everyone. But how many realize that this language can be interpreted and interpreted correctly? The language itself is clear but you there has been no one to explain it to you, parents and professors do not give instruction of that kind. In the Teaching of the Great Universal White Brotherhood, you are shown the Truth in order to help you to create your future, the future you have decided upon. Analyze yourself: how often do you feel (not by chance) that, although you may not be trapped in a crowd physically, you may be in your own room at the time, and yet you are assailed by some unknown force that tourments you, something dark and strange that tries to crush you and rob you of your strength. It is because you have let yourself slide downward, backward, and now you must get back on the right track.

If we are so ignorant as to be deaf to all warnings, if we are blind to our situation, it will get worse: as in quicksand, the more we try to extricate ourselves by struggling the more firmly we become embedded: our feet find no firm ground. Do you find yourself in a swamp infested with mosquitos and hornets and other tormentors? How can you expect them not to sting and bit, you are on their territory! You shouldn't be in those regions anyway, why did you wander so far afield? Those creatures have every right to resent your presence, it is their kingdom and they belong there, whereas you do not. You have taken a wrong turning. Now you must get back on the right path by obeying the laws of Nature and then the things that torment you, your difficulties and disillusionment, will vanish... or at least become insignificant enough to be handled with ease.

So many more things to say on the subject of the personality, but the most important of all is to remember that the personality is closely linked to the creatures of the underground. Although other creatures exist in those regions also who are devoted workers, devas, most inhabitants of the lower world are not very far along in their evolution, still in the dark, still egoistical and obediant to personality. Whoever listens to the advice of the personality is vulnerale to the pernicious influence of these creatures, and in time becomes bound and limited... in chains.

I would like to add at this point that it is not necessary to get rid of the personality completely, to annihilate it... no, that is not the way to be free of it. The personality is there for an important reason: it provides the matter we must have to do the task we are called upon to perform, here on earth. Like a rich old granny who holds the puse strings, the personality has a store of treasures, a fortune in the bank, but it cannot be trusted as far as it is concerned, it is too short-sighted, too self-centered, too selfish... but if you put it to work at what it does well, then it will accomplish wonders for you, as no one else can. It holds the key to the safe, to the larder, the cupboards, and you must not kill it! It will be useful to you if you make it listen to you, if you control it, rathen than the contrary. People think they are masters of themselves when actually it is the personality which is in control of them! I see that situation so often that I have made a study of it at first hand... where do you think I learn these things I talk to you about if not by analyzing myself, oberving myself? I notice the smallest details. It is not essential actually to experience things, to run the risk of losing oneself in order to study the effect of certain experiences. Why do people rush to investigate all that is dangerous, negative, corrupt and immoral, instead of examinating them from a distance without becoming involved and damaging themselves? You needn't be a victim to understand something and draw conclusions! People, especially young people, insist on experimenting everything to the very bottom, the depths, not once but a hundred times, totally oblivious of the fact that they are exhausting their ressources and will have nothing left when they are called upon to undergo higher experiences. If you think you can decide to turn to the light and learn about the luminous celestial spheres and taste the splendours of spiritual life after wallowing in filth all your life, you are mistaken. If you have used all your ressources you will not have the slightest chance of rising above the conditions you yourself have created.

Once you have wasted all your energies on experiments in the lower world you cannot expect to be allowed to have divine experiences in the higher world. To think you are free to do as you like once you are morally bankrupt, shows how little you know of the Science of Life. Without the essential purity and freshness, energy and suppleness and intensity, you cannot open the door to Heaven. You think that even when you are dirty and corrupt Heaven will open its doors to you? How ignorant are you! No one ever has, only those few who barely skimmed throught the lower world, refusing to sink into the mire, and who climbed back up as soon as they could to make amends for their mistakes and re-establish the vital current between them and the divine world, are able to have divine experiences. If what you want is the lower kind of experiences, then I say, “Go ahead! But I will be curious to see the results, what you will do afterwards.” Nothing, that is all that will be left for you, it will be all over as far as you are concerned.

Good cannot be limited, good is limitless, which is why I think one of the best definitions of God is, “Wherever there are no limits, where Infinity and Eternity and Immortality exist, that is where God is.” Nothing that is limited by time and space is God, nor can it represent Him. Like heat, good has no limit to how far it can rise, millions and millions of degrees, who knows how far. Last year at the World Fair in Montreal I saw the most extraordinary instrument in the Russian Pavilion designed to heat chemical and organic matter (and also plasma) to many millions of degrees.

If scientists had a correct vision of things they would see that Nature long ago established a scale of values with higher and lower qualities, which proves that there are two possible directions for all things to go in, one which is limitless and goes on all the way to Infinity and another which is evil and is limited. If you have never come to any conclusion concerning heat and cold it is because you do not know how to read Nature's Book, you don't understand her language.

Everything in the world below is a reflection of something in the world above. If you reason properly... yes, but your brain cannot reason properly, it is warped and destroyed by what you have learned, the habits you have aquired and inherited from your family, from the world, from the education you were given. It is the same for me, except that I have been working for a long time to get rid of all the old distorded ways and, if you do the same and drop old ways in favour of new ones, you will then see things as I do and make the same discoveries. You cannot deny the truth of these things I reveal to you every day, for they have existed since the beginning of time. People do not realize they exist because they are deformed by present-day culture. We must, therefore, either become detached from it or else resign ourselves to going through an entire lifetime without making any discoveries at all. As for me, I swim in the great truths I have discovered and which I cannot yet reveal to you, for until you have detached yourself from all the false concepts youn inherited you will be able neither to understand nor accept them.

Imagine if you will a piece of paper on which there are two drawings, one sketched in red ink and one in green ink. You are handed a pair of glasses with which to examine them. If the glasses are red, you will not be able to perceive the red drawing, because red on red does not show up... and you will see only the green drawing which may be quite ordinary, even ugly. Now someone hands you spectacles that are green, and you are able to perceive the red drawing... whereupon you cry, ”Well, but that is not the way it's always been... I am not used to this!” It has always been “that way”, but the spectacles you were given to wear kept you from seeing the reality. For instance, when you look at Nature, the stars, trees, mountains and so on, what you see is an outline, is it not? Well, there is another outline behind the one you see. The spectacles I am offering you will permit you to see the second outline and more besides. What if you think you will no longer see the outline you are used to... so much the better, you have seen enough of that one. Nature has drawn two outlines, and it is up to you to find the hidden one. (actually there are many more then two, but let us say two for the sake of clarity).

Is this clear? Once you know there are two directions within you, you will try to avoid taking the path that leads downward, for it ends in a cul-de-sac, a dead-end, comparable to absolute zero (which in fact has never been attained) where all the molecules become completely immobilized. But if you follow the upward path you will have access to the Infinite – and what treasures you will find along the whole length of that path!

For the most part men live in slow motion: they make sure they have a source of livelihood, they start a family, and that is enough for them, they sit back, contended. But it is very little! When someone disturbs their complacency with new ideas (such as these), all they find to say is, “This fellow is a real nuisance! We are fine as we are, let him mind his own business!” Yes, men are accustomed to their way of life and have been for centuries... and I come along to bother them, stirring them up and trying to inculcate new ideas into their lives, hoping to make them a little discontended with what they have! No wonder they object, no wonder they are dismayed, even the brothers and sisters don't like to be hastled and disturbed! I cannot help it. This is my mission, given to me to carry out no matter what, whether it pleases people or not. My purpose, my duty is not to leave you alone! And what you complain about so bitterly makes the divine world rejoice, they applaud when they see my efforts! I understand that you do not appreciate my methods, but nevertheless the world above finds them salutary as fair as your evolution is concerned.

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You christians are so small minded... Why would a god of infinite knowledge and possibility only create life on one planet and create en evil being to rule over the souls that he tricks into being bad?

Your entire religion could be thought up by a five year old.
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You truly wonder. And for an all knowing, all powerful god to rely on his creation knowing of him through language and even the dictionary/concordances, on many occassions, is just beyond logic. Did your Jesus or god write the dictionary/concordances along with the bible? Or can you claim you had full awareness and understanding of all words in the English vocabulary from birth? Every baby lack the ability to know or understand all words until they are taught or indoctrinated in school. Who is the god of this world again? So, the true god relies on the educational system provided by the devil for babies to know about god? Is god and the devil now working in tandem?

Perhaps people don't also realise that they hadn't the choice of which language they preferred (Chinese, Russian etc.) at birth, even though they were born in an english speaking country. Rather than adopting the language prevalent where they grew up, they could have chosen of their own volition which language they preferred to speak if indeed language isn't an external influence. Just goes to show you who is truly speaking to people....and it ain't the creator but rather they have been brainwashed and indoctrinated by their external environment/society and what they want them to think the world is.

I mean, when S starts HTF, people will be so blown away as the layers of the deception in this world begins to be pulled.
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"Those who do not put themselves in service of the light necessarily serve the darkness. This is an implacable law. Willingly or not, consciously or not, if you fail to choose heaven, you are headed for hell. If you do not make the decision to climb, you will come tumbling down. You may think: ‘The light? Heaven? What on earth is that? I want to be free!’ Well, you will not be able to prevent the forces of darkness from coming to dwell in you. Those who seek this kind of freedom will discover slavery. They fail to realize that they are placing themselves under the influence of dark entities which are only interested in exploiting them. They get mixed up in things, imagining it is they themselves who desire and decide, when in fact they are carrying out someone else’s business. Most people are like children when it comes to understanding freedom: they believe they are free when they engage in all sorts of unreasonable and dangerous things, which will eventually limit or even destroy them. They open the cages of wild beasts which will tear them apart and devour them. Only the wise know that to be free they must first limit themselves, by placing themselves in service of the divine world."
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1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
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1 John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
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Your religion is false brother. Please wake up before these truths are revealed to the world. By this time next year all of the truths that have kept humanity in bondage will be revealed, if you wake up before these thruths than you will have a much easier time dealing with the shift.

I love christ and i love god but christianity was written by constantine.
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Your brain s all fucked uo, op. I don’t mind the personification of nature for a laugh and much more, but when people like you go all the way and even do everything you can to frighten others into subjection, then it really pisses me off. Admit youre a sick bastard, and come back when youre well.
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"Evil rises up against good, it fights good, but in reality evil only exists insofar as the Creator has given evil the right to do so. Evil will disappear as soon as the Creator decides it should be so. Good is eternal and evil is transient, but we, human beings, do not have the power to make it disappear. Only the Lord Himself possesses this power. He does not need us, human beings - so weak, puny and ignorant - to help Him win over evil; indeed our weapons are so very ineffective. So, what can we do? Since only God can oppose evil, we must let Him in, let heaven penetrate us, manifest itself in us and work through us. Through us, God will see to it that good takes the place of evil."
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Sorry, I don't let anybody in me or penetrate me. Wait, I thought the bable was against that kind of activity anyway.
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"Consecration is a ritual whereby you put an object under the protection of a spiritual entity. But if you wish to consecrate an object, you must begin by exorcising it, since it has already received the influence of the people who have touched it and the events that have taken place around it, leaving behind fluidic traces, pure and not so pure. These fluidic traces prevent your thoughts from permeating the object, as they form a sort of barrier, a screen that blocks them out.

Once the object has been exorcised by prayers or even incense, you can proceed to consecrate it: you place it under the influence of a heavenly power, which permeates it with light, setting it apart; it’s as if there were a notice on it saying ‘Evil spirits keep out’, but heavenly entities can come and take possession of it and use it to help you in your spiritual work."
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"When a person speaks, it shows that he wants to take the initiative, to direct, and even to dominate. On the contrary, by remaining silent, a person indicates he is ready to listen, to receive what another says to him. Considered from a philosophical point of view, silence is therefore the distinctive feature of the feminine principle, which receives, submits to, and is shaped by the masculine principle. What conclusion can we draw from this for our inner life? That we must learn to re-establish silence within us, so that the divine Spirit may work on our psychic matter. As long as we are rebellious, stubborn, and anarchic, the Spirit cannot act on us, and we remain weak and miserable. No sooner do we manage to create silence than we place ourselves under the influence of the Spirit."
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"It’s not enough to desire and invoke good to come and live in you. As long as you do not eliminate certain impure, harmful elements, good will hover around you, but it will be unable to enter.

You may want, for example, to consecrate an object. You must begin by removing all the impure fluidic layers and particles left on it. It is always good to want to communicate with the forces of good, but you need to know that the first thing you must do on the physical plane is exorcise or free objects from all impurities, in order to then fill them with beneficial energies. Only then will you manage to impregnate objects with magic power."
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Continue please, more specifically towards Christ.
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Doesn't matter, they both play for the same team nowadays.
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Continue please, more specifically towards Christ.
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CHRIST

Today people divide Christ into aspects such as "historical," "cosmic," "mystical" and so on. But Christ in his essence is one and indivisible.

There is only one Christ - the living Christ who is the manifestation of God, the manifestation of Love.

Christ is God revealing Himself to the world.

As a manifestation of God, Christ cannot be separated from Him, cannot be considered apart from Him.

And when I speak of Christ, I do not mean an abstract principle, but rather an actual incarnation of Love.

Love is the greatest reality and not an abstraction. It has form, content and meaning.

Christ - whatever conception people have of him as "historical," as "cosmic," as "mystical," - gave to the earth the fullest expression of Love.

This is because as an historic personality, as a cosmic essence, and as a mystical experience, Christ is and remains the most perfect expression of Love.

Indeed, no other man on earth before Christ had greater love than His.

There is neither in the cosmos without, nor in the mystic depths of the soul within, a fuller expression of Love than that which we personify in Christ.

Therefore, how are the words "historical," "cosmic," and "mystical" to be understood?

Manifested on the earth at a certain historical moment as the ideal man, as an example of the real man, Christ is "historical." And the times in which he lived record an bear witness to Him: "Behold, the man! Behold, the true man in whom Love, Wisdom, and Truth live, and who applies them."

When he is experienced in the inward depths, he is "mystical," and when he is comprehended and known as God manifested in the world, he is "cosmic."

The physical side of Christ is all of humanity united in one body. All human souls in which Christ lives, united into one - this is the physical aspect of Christ.

All angels, gathered into the heart of Christ, represent his spiritual aspect.

And all divine beings, united in the mind of Christ, are his divine aspect.

This is the "cosmic" Christ, God manifested in the world.

That is why the mystic sees Christ everywhere - as the great Brother of humanity, the archetype of man, the First-Born in the world, the beginning of the human race, the beginning of human evolution. The First-Born who developed and manifested all divine virtues, who applied all divine laws.

The mystic sees Christ as the First-Born who passed every trial and sacrificed all for his brothers.

Mountains, fields, springs, rivers, and seas, with all the natural wealth hidden therein - all this is an expression of this Great Brother.

But this is a great mystery, for the understanding of which thousands of years of unremitting work are necessary.

Thus does one need to conceive of Christ in his comprehensiveness.

He is One, although people consider him sometimes as "historical," sometimes as "cosmic," or as "mystical."

All these words must come to life in the true understanding of Christ as the manifested and revealed Love of God; they must not remain dry concepts, prisons for human thought.

Indeed, is not the "historical" Christ, who came to earth two thousand years ago, a prison for the minds of many Christians? Where in the Scripture did Christ two thousand years ago speak of himself as of an historical personality? He speaks of himself as Spirit, as one who will remain on earth "to the end of the ages," that is until the epoch of violence and evil, now in its last days, comes to an end.

"Go and preach," he says to his disciples, "and I shall be with you to the end of the ages."

One of the worst delusions is to think that Christ is in heaven, that he sits and waits for the Last Judgment, when he will begin to judge the living and the dead.

The truth is that Christ has never left the earth. Remember his words: "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."

Christ is he Who has inspired, is inspiring, and will inspire the "historical," "cosmic," and "mystical" life of the earth and humanity.

Without Christ, there could be no history.

Without Christ, there could be no "cosmos," no organized and established world.

Without Christ, there could be no "mystical" life.

He is the great inspirer of all revelations in all times. He is the unseen moving force behind the whole spiritual life of humanity.

The Scripture, in which Christ is the central figure, is a witness to this.

Christ himself hints at this with the words: "Moses and the prophets wrote about me."

Moses, in a general sense, comprises all the spiritual leaders of humanity, all scientists, philosophers, writers, poets, artists and musicians who prepare the minds of men for the understanding of Christ, the divine Truth.

However transitory their works seem, however changeable their theories, they are not arbitrary; they are created under the influence of a universal law of the Spirit, working in mankind in a special way.

All those men, therefore, worked for the manifold upliftment of humanity; they prepared the way for the coming of Christ.

It is not easy for a great Spirit such as Christ to come among men. Men had to work hard in the course of several thousand years in order that Christ might appear among them. It is not easy to come to the earth.

But with his descent to the earth, Christ opened a new epoch in the evolution of humanity. He indicated the only way by which the human soul can ascend to God.

This is why he said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life."

The Way: in the broadest sense of the word, this is the movement of the Spirit towards an intelligent application of the laws of Nature.

The Life: this is the harmonious organization of the elements and the development of the forces in the Divine soul.

The Truth: this is the manifestation of the One God, who creates the conditions for the development of all living beings.

Coming from the Divine world of Truth and descending to the material world, Christ connects human souls to the world of Truth, where the great aims of every life are hidden.

There must necessarily be a link to unite human souls sunken in matter, with God. Only Christ can form that link - only Christ can unite men with God.

He came down from the Divine world, bringing life from the world of Truth, and ascended back to it, and in this way he indicated the path leading from temporal life to the eternal.

"And this is life eternal," says Christ, "that they should know Thee the only true God, and him who Thou didst send Jesus Christ."

To know God is to know the seeds of the Spirit - the conditions, the powers, and the laws which sustain it, and according to which this wonderful order of things is built.

And Christ is the intelligent beginning who comes from the One God, bringing life to all beings, guiding them and sustaining them, and linking them to the initial center of all that is.

Christ is the way of this intelligent movement of souls which leads them to life eternal in Truth.

And when Christ is asked why he came to earth, he replies, "To this end was I born and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the Truth."

These words, however, are a mathematical formula. The question of the coming of Christ is one of the deepest questions in human life. Many people think that it is very easy to reply to this question. They say that Christ came to the earth in order to suffer and to save humanity.

The coming of Christ to the earth is not a matter of suffering. The suffering was a secondary occurrence in the life of Christ - it is far from determining this very important moment in the history of humanity.

Salvation, in the way in which it is usually understood, is also a partial conception of this great event.

But today, all the preachers say that Christ came to the earth to save humanity. If Christ had saved the world in such a mechanical way as people believe, and if they were truly saved, then they would not live in a way so contrary to the spirit of Christ's teaching.

Clearly, the idea of salvation has an entirely different meaning. It is not where people look for it, nor does it come mechanically as they think.

Christ brought to the earth the science of the soul. He pointed out the path by which human souls can know God and obtain eternal life.

The gate of that path is Love. He who passes through this gate will find himself on that royal road where great deeds await him.

Many great souls came to the earth before Christ, but they were unable to cope with the difficult task of uplifting humanity. Christ had to come to earth in order to solve this essential and very important problem, and to show to men a proven way by which they, too, might solve it.

Before Christ, God sent into his field his servants - the prophets and the saints - but they were not able to accomplish the task in the way in which it should have been done.

When Christ, "the Son of God," came to the earth, the workers of all of heaven united in his name in order to complete the work which had been begun.

It is written in the Gospel that "God so loved the world that he gave his only- begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but should have eternal life."

The Son is the Word, the Rational, the Divine, the only one who could restore harmony to the world and the connection of the human soul with God.

Christ could restore that connection, he could influence humanity as a whole, because he himself was connected with the great, mighty One.

When the Gospel speaks of the descent of the Spirit upon Jesus, it refers to the union of Jesus with the collective Spirit of the world of reason, whereby the realization of a Divine idea became possible on the earth.

This is a law on the earth - in order to accomplish the work of God, a man on the earth must unite with a being in heaven. In this case, the being was the collective divine Spirit.

From this point of view, Christ is a collective spirit. He exists as a unit and at the same time he is a collective spirit. He is the sum total of all Sons of God whose hearts and souls are fountains of life and love.

All Sons of God, united in one, all intelligent souls who live in Divine communion - all this is Christ.

The descent of Christ to the earth is the most important event in the history of humanity. It is a unique event in its content and meaning. The fundamental idea of human life is connected with it - the idea of immortality, the idea of eternal life. And the efforts of all human existence have as their ultimate goal the attaining of immortality and entering into eternal life.

"And this is life eternal," says Christ, "that they should know Thee, the only true God, and him whom Thou didst send, Jesus Christ."

Know God, and know Christ.

Did people know Christ when he appeared two thousand years ago? Do they know him today? When truth comes into the world, it is not clothed in royal garments, but rather in modest apparel.

Thus Christ appeared two thousand years ago in a simple form, in which men could not recognize him. But such are the laws of this world.

In this modest apparel, seemingly a man like all other men, even his disciples did not know Him completely. Only three of them at the transfiguration saw Christ's "face," His inner self. In this inner light they saw Him and recognized Him as he was among the angels.

For the jewish people, Christ was "the son of Joseph, the son of the carpenter." For the scribes and the Pharisees, He was a blasphemer, a self-styled messiah who called himself "Son of God." He did not come from among them, He was not taught by them.

Where, in fact, did Christ study? Everything that he did testified to his wide learning. Yet, even today there are people who think that Christ was a common, uneducated person. This is not true. Christ himself, addressing his listeners, said, "If I told you earthly things and you believe not, how shall you believe if I tell you heavenly things?" When He spoke of "heavenly things," Christ referred to the great mysteries of the sun. However, He understood "earthly things" as well - He knew the Cabal, and the philosophies of the Eastern nations and of the Greeks, as well as the sciences of the time.

Indeed, Christ had no need to study in human schools. His entire earthly life was in itself objective learning for Him.

His life was a source of new experience, a field for the application of those sublime principles and great laws, whose functions He had known in the invisible world. Due to his awakened consciousness and his connection with the invisible world, Christ was always able to obtain knowledge directly therefrom.

And when He prayed, prayer was a conversation with the world of reason.

Through prayer, Christ communicated with the invisible world, with all the hierarchies there and with God. Through prayer the invisible world revealed to Christ that great lesson which He had to learn on earth, and disclosed to him the problem He had to solve in the environment of earthly life.

After having solved his difficult problem, Christ understood through experience that the only way to save humanity is through Love. Only then did He fully comprehend the profound meaning of all of his suffering.

However, to men, regardless of what they say, the sufferings of Christ, his crucifixion and his disgraceful death, still remain one of the deepest mysteries.

Why did Christ, the greatest soul that ever came to the earth, the greatest character ever manifested, why did this good, intelligent, and strong man have to undergo such a tragic death?

The Scripture says that it was thus "written" - and nothing more.

Others maintain that it was necessary for this to happen so that the world might be saved.

But Christ himself says that He came into the world to bear witness to the Truth.

One thing can be said with certainty - Christ was crucified because Love did not outwardly participate in his life. And where Love does not participate, the most severe sufferings and the greatest tragedies occur. Love does not cause them, but the competition for love creates them. Love in itself always and everywhere brings light, peace and joy.

In any case, we see that Christ's crucifixion was permitted.

On the cross Christ underwent what might be called ideological-mystical suffering, the deepest and the most intense suffering which a human soul can undergo.

He had to drink from the cup of suffering to the last drop - that cup into which were gathered all the bitter dregs of the past.

But during this profound and intensified suffering, all of the secrets of the past were disclosed to him. And conscious of the great importance of the moment, after the inner struggle in the garden of Gethsemane, Christ said, "It was for this hour that I came."

Through the great alchemy of Love, Christ converted the poisons gathered in that cup, and thus destroyed violence forever.

And indeed could not Christ - a strong man of genius who knew his high origin, who foresaw everything, who knew what was about to happen - have averted the sufferings which awaited Him? He had the choice either to call forth the "legions of angels" and with their help to annihilate both the Jewish nation and the Roman Empire - that is, to use the method of the past, Moses and Elijah's method of violence and the sword, which was the method of the old magi and adepts - or to accept the cup and the cross and to overcome them through the power of Love.

Christ chose the second, a unique experiment on earth.

And indeed, if Christ had feared the suffering, if He had eared the cross on which later He was crucified, or the nails with which He was nailed to it, or the spear with which He was pierced, He would not have provided a new and essential solution to the difficult task of uplifting the human soul. He dissolved the insults, and the lashes of the whip, and the cross, and the nails, and the spear, with the fire of Love - the only fire that can melt the weapons of violence. The experiment proved successful.

Thus Christ solved a problem upon which the future of all of humanity depended. Thus He opened the path of salvation to those suffering souls for whom He came.

For those simple but noble souls who had the courage to put their faith in Him, and not for the learned, the powerful and the religious people of His age, did Christ lay down His life so that they might live in the Love which He gave them.

Something very great is hidden in the sufferings of Christ. They constitute the hidden side of Christ's life, of which men know nothing.

And when I speak of the sufferings of Christ, two great virtues of Christ come to mind - His unprecedented patience, and His humility. Through these, He endured all the abuses, insults and offenses which men inflicted upon Him. Christ endured all of these and remained silent, calm and unmoved, as though nothing were happening. Not a tear fell from His eyes.

This is great patience, this is self-mastery, this is Love.

This is a rock which nothing can shatter.

Christ's crucifixion was a tragedy, but this tragedy had its solution in the resurrection.

Christ rose from the dead, and through his resurrection He conquered death. And as in his sufferings the secrets of the past were revealed to Him so in the resurrection He received the revelation of the future.

Christ is truly a strong man, a mighty spirit, a hero. He overcame everything - tortures, the cross and the grave.

Christ did not carry the wooden cross to the end. He carried it only to a certain place and then He laid it on the ground. People think that He laid it down because He was exhausted beneath its weight.

Christ was not a weakling. He could have carried the cross, but He laid it down in order to point out to humanity what was in store for them. He implied, "I can carry the cross of the sufferings of living men, but I do not wish to carry a wooden cross."

But present-day Christians still carry and kiss the wooden cross, disdained by Christ himself.

Having cast the wooden cross upon the ground, Christ stood up, and upright he made his way to Golgotha. They nailed him to the cross. But He did not remain there long. He alone unnailed himself. How? He left his body and went to Joseph of Arimathea.

Christ was buried and His tomb was sealed. But He also left the tomb. He did not want to leave his body in the tomb, because it was alive. He himself resurrected it.

The angel that caused his death took his soul to hell, but Christ did not remain there long. His entrance into hell caused a revolution - He activated all of hell's inhabitants and set them free. Do not think that after his resurrection Christ was alone - in hell He was the leader of a host of angels who emptied hell of all of its prisoners.

Thus Christ proved that the strong man cannot remain nailed to a cross, nor can he be sealed in a grave. The strong man never dies - he is resurrected and he gives life to others.

Christ was the heart of God, and that is why He resurrected. God's heart cannot die. It returned whence it came. But throughout all of this tragedy enacted on Golgotha, new blood was infused into the exhausted veins of humanity, and a new impulse was brought to the divine circulation of life.

When He came to the earth two thousand years ago, Christ revealed to us only one side of his nature.

We see Christ then in humiliation and grief, in sufferings and trials. We see him as a hero of redemption.

People do not yet know Christ in his glory, in his divine might and power.

Christ is strong and mighty now!

In the past, the hands of Christ were nailed. Today no one can nail these hands - the nails would be melted at once! In the past they crucified Christ, but today there is not a tree large enough on which He could be crucified.

Christ cannot be crucified a second time.

This Christ is coming now to visit the minds and hearts of men. He will demolish all prisons; He will obliterate all false teachings - everything that destroys man's mind and heart, that brings confusion and anarchy, that paralyzes human life. He is the living Christ who brings life, light and freedom to all souls, who uplifts and awakens in them love toward all.

When I say that Christ is coming now, some might think that He will come outwardly. Christ will not come outwardly, He will come neither in the form of a man, nor in any other form.

When the rays of the sun enter into your homes, does that mean that the sun itself has visited you?

Remember, Christ is e manifestation of divine Love. And He will come as an inner light in the minds and hearts of men. This light will draw all toward Christ as around a great center.

The opening of men's minds and hearts, and the inner acceptance of Christ - this will be the second coming of Christ to the earth.

If they do not accept Him in this way, people will continue to live without love, in suffering and misery, in outer beliefs, superstitions, and delusions.

Captives of those outer beliefs, many religious people today err when they say, "Christ brought good tidings two thousand years ago. He said all that He had to say, and now He has gone to heaven, where He will remain until the Day of Judgment, when He will come again to judge the living and the dead."

But I say to you: Christ did not preach the good tidings in time and space!

We do not consider Christ and His teaching as something that is past.

We do not consider Christ and His teaching as something that will come in the future.

For us, Christ and His teaching are an everlasting present!

Therefore, it was not only during his three years of reaching that Christ spoke to us; He has not ceased speaking during all of these two thousand years. And if it were possible to restore all that He said in those three years to the people of that time, and if it were possible also to restore what He said in the course of these two thousand years, men would have very valuable knowledge.

But only very little of what Christ said during those three years of preaching has come down to us - only fragments. Many of the Epistles of Paul, as well as of the other apostles, remain hidden from the world. But some day they will come to light. Even now they are being disclosed, but only to advanced pupils.

On the other hand, do you think that Christ divulged all of his teaching? In comparison with what He possessed, Christ gave very little to his contemporaries. The men of that time were not ready for science. Therefore, He spoke to them in parables. Christ did not want to put his weapon in the hands of the ignorant, so that they might turn it against Him.

Do you think that if Christ came now He would speak as He spoke two thousand years ago? Christ will speak today in an entirely different manner.

First of all, He will preach about the great science of Love, and the methods of its application. He will preach about the path of pupilage, brotherhood and service. The law of evolution requires it today.

And now the Great Master addresses himself to all awakened souls, proclaiming to them the fundamentals of the new gospel:

That all be diligent pupils,

good brothers, true and loyal servers!

Only those who are diligent pupils, good brothers, and true servers can create the new culture in which Christ will live in every man and among all people.

Today, Christ has no need of ordinary believers, religious people who fight one another, nor of rulers and priests, but rather of real men, creators of the new - pupils, brothers, and servers.
Today Christ does not want men who constantly crucify Him within themselves, but men who will welcome Him to live within them and among them, who will be one with Him.

Today, Christ proclaims a culture without crucifixions, the culture of resurrection!

We nave seen well the results of the present culture created by those who crucified Christ.

It is time for the foundations of a new culture to be laid, a culture built not by people who worship the crucified Christ, but by men-brothers in whom lives the resurrected Christ, the living Christ of Love.

The foundation of this culture will be Love.

Love is the only power that can make of men diligent pupils, good brothers, true and loyal servers, builders of the new life.

This is the "new" which Christ brings to humanity today.

This is the Word of the Great White Brotherhood; this is what the Master speaks.

And will not many believers, then, who call themselves Christians, be enticed by His word? And will they recognize Him?

They will continue to argue about the "crucified," the "historical" and the "cosmic" Christ; about the Christ as He is considered by the various churches, and the spirit of his Living Word will remain strange to them.

Therefore, I say to you: Leave aside these definitions and differentiations of Christ! Know that there is only one Christ, the Christ of great Love, who at present is active in the world and in the souls of men.

I speak to you of that Christ, and not of the "historical" or the "crucified" Christ. Men know Him well as an historical personage, but they do not know Him as Living Love.

I speak to you of the living Christ, of that Christ who has life within himself, who brings the living knowledge and light, who brings the truth and freedom; of that Christ who teaches all methods for the building of rational life.

He is the great Christ, who is called the Head of the Great Universal Brotherhood.

All great souls know Him, and they never argue about who and what He is, what He was, where He is now, what place He holds in the "hierarchy of masters," and so on.

They never argue because they know very well what place Christ has in the Whole, just as they know the place of the other great men who have appeared and are appearing in the world.

This is the Christ that men must come to know today! They must see Him - see and know Him! Many men wish to convince us that we may be true Christians without seeing and knowing Christ inwardly. But I maintain that if a man does not see Christ, nothing will come of him.

In order to see Christ, one must have a mind, a heart, a soul, and a spirit like His. All those to whom Christ appeared before they reached that stage, fell down with faces toward the ground. And what can a fallen man see?

Man must drink from the source itself and not from the river, which is muddy because many other additives entered into it.

Follow the path that leads to this source - the path is difficult and long, but you will drink living water from the spring itself, and it will refresh your mind and heart forever.

Spacious views, unseen until then, will be opened to your sight.

On that mountain where the living water flows forth, you will hear the voice of God.

Do not ask to remain there, but come down to your brothers. Come down and put into practice, like a pupil, like a brother, and like a server, the Living Word of your Heavenly Father who draws you to Him by the threads of His Love.

These threads are in the hands of Christ, the manifested God of Love.

Peter Deunov (Beinsa Douno)


The True Religion of Christ
Thread: The True Religion of Christ

The Second Advent of Christ
Thread: The Second Advent of Christ

The High Ideal
[link to www.liveyourquest.com]

TRUE MEANING OF CHRIST'S TEACHINGS
[link to www.insight-books.com]

hf
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Some more infos about Esoteric Christianity: The Word of Peter Deunov (Beinsa Douno)

[link to powerandlife.com]

Enjoy! hf
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Talk about schizophrenia! Voices voices voices! Who's on first!
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05/16/2012 07:02 AM
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Nice another religitard thread kindly fuck off ?
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05/16/2012 07:03 AM
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05/16/2012 07:05 AM
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Re: Its much better to be occupied by CHRIST as to be occupied by the Antichrist. Choose your side!
well the non religious people p[ost alot of stuff too

in essence there is no gain i can see

as a matter of fact anyone posting on the board are a homogenous group

and content is an excuse
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05/16/2012 07:05 AM
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As an Atheist I'd rather side with nobody in your soap opera. There's always three sides to every story...Your's, the other guy's and the truth :-)
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05/16/2012 02:26 PM
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