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One question has always bugged me when I watched Star-Trek:

OK it's not too farfetched to think that in a few hundred years we'll be able to transport objects over large distances (they've already done this with atoms), but a human being ?

We're not just molecules put together in a certain order, we have consciousness, we have a soul ! How do you transport those ?

IMO teleporting a human will involve much more than disintegrating him from one place and having the technology and the capacity to store that information and use it to put him back together... !
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This is true, that is why i believe that a transporting device would be more like a time tunnel device; where space is folded in on itself so you simply walk through to the other destination...
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fek that.. i'll drive my car or take a taxi... being disintergrated, and reasembled somewhere hither... fek that... eyeball in my bum, and a toe up my noes.. and god knows what is attached to my what used to be forehead... does not sound safe....
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Cost too much: Have it built in India, Greece, Spain, Italy.... wtf

Good like with finding a trained crew for manning the ship
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...or the phasers, photon torpedoes, transporters, replicators, tri-corders, tractor beams, anti-matter containment, tribble contraception...
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All except the tribbles, the elite have had this kind of tech for decades.
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I don't think the Apollo missions ever went there to begin with, so using their numbers wouldn't do much in my eyes.
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Well you can think whatever you want, but amateur astronomers tracked and observed the Apollo missions traveling to and from the moon.
Since you are a number guy, see what you can come up with for the amount of gravity on the moon. We're told 1/6th of earth, but 7/10ths seems to come up for me. Keep in mind we don't know the density of the moon, so you must use an equation that doesn't need density
 Quoting: Juergen

We DO know the density of the moon though. Even over a hundred years ago Simon Newcomb gave the mass of the moon as 1/81.58 of the earth's mass (page 142 of "The elements of the four inner planets and the fundamental constants of astronomy"), very close to the true value of 1/81.17. Given that the radius of the moon is known simply by direct observation of its apparent radius and the distance which is known simply by observing the moon's orbit, the surface gravity according to Newcomb's data from over a hundred years ago would have been 1.61 m/s^2, only slightly less than the current figure of 1.62 m/s^2.

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Nuclear powered? No thanks. Let's forget the whole thing. Manned space exploration is dead for the next 50 years. Dark Ages first...
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Forget nuclear power....that is so 1945.
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MAGENTIC GRAVITY DRIVES already exist.
Notice the silent Triangle craft overhead?....like the Arizona one especially?
It's 1500ft wide....and 100% silent....aka....MAGNETIC GRAVITY DRIVE.



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I'll believe it when I see it with my own eyes... Unless someone has a clear video of it or lots of clear sharp pictures of them. Till then, it's bsflag
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One of the main problems I've considered is that if you build an engine that warps space you simultaneously warp time making this a bit more complicated then just strapping on more powerful rockets. Pilots would need to find their "Zen" to be able to fly one as the immediate past and potential futures warp around them.

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and we also have a form of communicators (OS style) in the form of cell phones which were inspired by TREK in the first place. as for phasers, we have had scientists working on that concept for the last decade or two ( the hand held kind) but you all are right, photon torpedos, and some of the other tech will still have to be developed.. in theory is all very possible and thats why i love the franchises all of them save for DS9.
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where are they going to find some dilethium crystals?
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100% jackanory time

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where are they going to find some dilethium crystals?
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Probably in China.tomato
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I don't think the Apollo missions ever went there to begin with, so using their numbers wouldn't do much in my eyes.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

Well you can think whatever you want, but amateur astronomers tracked and observed the Apollo missions traveling to and from the moon.
Since you are a number guy, see what you can come up with for the amount of gravity on the moon. We're told 1/6th of earth, but 7/10ths seems to come up for me. Keep in mind we don't know the density of the moon, so you must use an equation that doesn't need density
 Quoting: Juergen

We DO know the density of the moon though. Even over a hundred years ago Simon Newcomb gave the mass of the moon as 1/81.58 of the earth's mass (page 142 of "The elements of the four inner planets and the fundamental constants of astronomy"), very close to the true value of 1/81.17. Given that the radius of the moon is known simply by direct observation of its apparent radius and the distance which is known simply by observing the moon's orbit, the surface gravity according to Newcomb's data from over a hundred years ago would have been 1.61 m/s^2, only slightly less than the current figure of 1.62 m/s^2.
 Quoting: Astromut


The problem is not that the missions were real - they were.

They were just not as we were told. Most footage from the actual missions and lunar surface was pre-shot.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor of alien contact but we will probabaly never know the full story of what happened on the surface in 1969.

Not in our lifetime.
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One of the main problems I've considered is that if you build an engine that warps space you simultaneously warp time making this a bit more complicated then just strapping on more powerful rockets. Pilots would need to find their "Zen" to be able to fly one as the immediate past and potential futures warp around them.

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You cannot traverse the universe over vast distances in a linear fashion. First you need to study the true structural nature of the universe - something we may or may not have found yet - then you can impact that structure to "travel".

Something we may or may not have done already.
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WHY IS THE DOMAIN UNRESOLVABLE?

buildtheenterprise.org

Is he sharing classified technology?

Still in Google cache but not resolved!
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server problems..

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The BTE site is now officially 6 days old. The response so far? Whoa Nelly, it’s rather beyond anything I could have imagined!

First, let me apologize for the extremely slow web page loading. Often the pages won’t load at all and then they time out. Even with limited access, the site traffic spiked from 100 visitors last Tuesday (and these were mostly me working on the website) to 42k visitors on Saturday. It will likely have over 60k today. The site traffic has completely overloaded my service provider, so yesterday I had to purchase a dedicated server at a different company. I hope to have it working today or tomorrow and then the site should run nice and fast.

here's his youtube channel (BTE - Dan)

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Expect him to die of a heart attack within the next couple months. There's no way in hell our government's going to allow people to travel through space like that if it works. On top of that, no way in hell will they allow a ship capable of beating any of theirs to get off the ground.
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It's very possible. But until we learn more about crystal technology and energy, we wouldn't get that thing very far.
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The problem is not that the missions were real - they were.
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Changing horses.
They were just not as we were told. Most footage from the actual missions and lunar surface was pre-shot.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor of alien contact but we will probabaly never know the full story of what happened on the surface in 1969.

Not in our lifetime.
 Quoting: AC

Actually we do know the story, the footage is quite real. Unfortunately, that's not interesting enough for some.

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I don't think the Apollo missions ever went there to begin with, so using their numbers wouldn't do much in my eyes.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

Well you can think whatever you want, but amateur astronomers tracked and observed the Apollo missions traveling to and from the moon.
Since you are a number guy, see what you can come up with for the amount of gravity on the moon. We're told 1/6th of earth, but 7/10ths seems to come up for me. Keep in mind we don't know the density of the moon, so you must use an equation that doesn't need density
 Quoting: Juergen

We DO know the density of the moon though. Even over a hundred years ago Simon Newcomb gave the mass of the moon as 1/81.58 of the earth's mass (page 142 of "The elements of the four inner planets and the fundamental constants of astronomy"), very close to the true value of 1/81.17. Given that the radius of the moon is known simply by direct observation of its apparent radius and the distance which is known simply by observing the moon's orbit, the surface gravity according to Newcomb's data from over a hundred years ago would have been 1.61 m/s^2, only slightly less than the current figure of 1.62 m/s^2.
 Quoting: Astromut


how did he know the density of the moon? impossible, the moon is full of volcanic tubes and may have huge caverns. getting the density of a rock from there doesnt give you the overall density. so try the calculation without density, you can use the 3 body rule. or calculate using the neutral point
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I don't think the Apollo missions ever went there to begin with, so using their numbers wouldn't do much in my eyes.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

Well you can think whatever you want, but amateur astronomers tracked and observed the Apollo missions traveling to and from the moon.
Since you are a number guy, see what you can come up with for the amount of gravity on the moon. We're told 1/6th of earth, but 7/10ths seems to come up for me. Keep in mind we don't know the density of the moon, so you must use an equation that doesn't need density
 Quoting: Juergen

We DO know the density of the moon though. Even over a hundred years ago Simon Newcomb gave the mass of the moon as 1/81.58 of the earth's mass (page 142 of "The elements of the four inner planets and the fundamental constants of astronomy"), very close to the true value of 1/81.17. Given that the radius of the moon is known simply by direct observation of its apparent radius and the distance which is known simply by observing the moon's orbit, the surface gravity according to Newcomb's data from over a hundred years ago would have been 1.61 m/s^2, only slightly less than the current figure of 1.62 m/s^2.
 Quoting: Astromut


The problem is not that the missions were real - they were.

They were just not as we were told. Most footage from the actual missions and lunar surface was pre-shot.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor of alien contact but we will probabaly never know the full story of what happened on the surface in 1969.

Not in our lifetime.
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i have an original nasa photo of the moon pre-1970, before they starting airbrushing, i doubt they went to the moon knowing whats up there
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The problem is not that the missions were real - they were.
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Changing horses.
They were just not as we were told. Most footage from the actual missions and lunar surface was pre-shot.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor of alien contact but we will probabaly never know the full story of what happened on the surface in 1969.

Not in our lifetime.
 Quoting: AC

Actually we do know the story, the footage is quite real. Unfortunately, that's not interesting enough for some.
 Quoting: Astromut


how do you KNOW this?
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I don't think the Apollo missions ever went there to begin with, so using their numbers wouldn't do much in my eyes.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

Well you can think whatever you want, but amateur astronomers tracked and observed the Apollo missions traveling to and from the moon.
Since you are a number guy, see what you can come up with for the amount of gravity on the moon. We're told 1/6th of earth, but 7/10ths seems to come up for me. Keep in mind we don't know the density of the moon, so you must use an equation that doesn't need density
 Quoting: Juergen

We DO know the density of the moon though. Even over a hundred years ago Simon Newcomb gave the mass of the moon as 1/81.58 of the earth's mass (page 142 of "The elements of the four inner planets and the fundamental constants of astronomy"), very close to the true value of 1/81.17. Given that the radius of the moon is known simply by direct observation of its apparent radius and the distance which is known simply by observing the moon's orbit, the surface gravity according to Newcomb's data from over a hundred years ago would have been 1.61 m/s^2, only slightly less than the current figure of 1.62 m/s^2.
 Quoting: Astromut


how did he know the density of the moon?
 Quoting: JuergenHess

By measuring its mass. Volume is directly observable by the size of the moon, density is simply a function of mass and volume.
impossible, the moon is full of volcanic tubes and may have huge caverns. getting the density of a rock from there doesnt give you the overall density.
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What the hell dude? I didn't say anything about extrapolating based on the density of a moon rock. I didn't say anything even close to that. Clearly you didn't understand anything I said. The mass was measured by observing the way the moon gravitationally affects the earth, again, reported by Simon Newcomb over a hundred years ago on page 142 of "The elements of the four inner planets and the fundamental constants of astronomy."
so try the calculation without density,
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No, density is a known factor for the reasons stated above. I'm not going to ignore that known data just because you tell me to.
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The problem is not that the missions were real - they were.
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Changing horses.
They were just not as we were told. Most footage from the actual missions and lunar surface was pre-shot.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor of alien contact but we will probabaly never know the full story of what happened on the surface in 1969.

Not in our lifetime.
 Quoting: AC

Actually we do know the story, the footage is quite real. Unfortunately, that's not interesting enough for some.
 Quoting: Astromut


how do you KNOW this?
 Quoting: JuergenHess


I know it because I've examined it myself. I'm not going to go over all those details, you can't even seem to understand how we knew the mass of the moon long before we even ventured into space.
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The problem is not that the missions were real - they were.
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Changing horses.
They were just not as we were told. Most footage from the actual missions and lunar surface was pre-shot.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor of alien contact but we will probabaly never know the full story of what happened on the surface in 1969.

Not in our lifetime.
 Quoting: AC

Actually we do know the story, the footage is quite real. Unfortunately, that's not interesting enough for some.
 Quoting: Astromut


how do you KNOW this?
 Quoting: JuergenHess


I know it because I've examined it myself. I'm not going to go over all those details, you can't even seem to understand how we knew the mass of the moon long before we even ventured into space.
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Nasa is so compartmentalized that there is no way your "friends" even knew what they were working on, not the big picture. So do you at least agree that the Nazi's are the only reason we have a space program? and how old are you? you have friends that were engineers on the Apollo program? Chances are they were just telling you what they were told about their project
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Changing horses.
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Actually we do know the story, the footage is quite real. Unfortunately, that's not interesting enough for some.
 Quoting: Astromut


how do you KNOW this?
 Quoting: JuergenHess


I know it because I've examined it myself. I'm not going to go over all those details, you can't even seem to understand how we knew the mass of the moon long before we even ventured into space.
 Quoting: Astromut


Nasa is so compartmentalized that there is no way your "friends" even knew what they were working on, not the big picture.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

You're completely changing horses again. I'm not going to keep playing whack a mole with you every time you want to change the subject. Nothing you just said had anything to do with what I said, again.
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i have an original nasa photo of the moon pre-1970, before they starting airbrushing, i doubt they went to the moon knowing whats up there
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Why not scan it and post it somewere from a pxy?
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how do you KNOW this?
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I know it because I've examined it myself. I'm not going to go over all those details, you can't even seem to understand how we knew the mass of the moon long before we even ventured into space.
 Quoting: Astromut


Nasa is so compartmentalized that there is no way your "friends" even knew what they were working on, not the big picture.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

You're completely changing horses again. I'm not going to keep playing whack a mole with you every time you want to change the subject. Nothing you just said had anything to do with what I said, again.
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry, not trying to bug you I just like to consume info, and would like info you have, what are your thoughts on the book Gravitational Force of the Sun? if you haven't read it here is a summary [link to thelivingmoon.com]
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i have an original nasa photo of the moon pre-1970, before they starting airbrushing, i doubt they went to the moon knowing whats up there
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Why not scan it and post it somewere from a pxy?
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yes i did post a picture of it, it's in a different thread, here's the link
Thread: Had lunch with John Lear today!
the link is about half way down the page, great great photo
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I know it because I've examined it myself. I'm not going to go over all those details, you can't even seem to understand how we knew the mass of the moon long before we even ventured into space.
 Quoting: Astromut


Nasa is so compartmentalized that there is no way your "friends" even knew what they were working on, not the big picture.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

You're completely changing horses again. I'm not going to keep playing whack a mole with you every time you want to change the subject. Nothing you just said had anything to do with what I said, again.
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry, not trying to bug you I just like to consume info, and would like info you have, what are your thoughts on the book Gravitational Force of the Sun? if you haven't read it here is a summary [link to thelivingmoon.com]
 Quoting: JuergenHess


My thoughts are that I'll start hemorrhaging IQ points if I read that book. Universal gravitation works, I'm sorry but that's not even up for debate.
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