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Building a functional Star Trek Enterprise!!!

 
JuergenHess (OP)

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Nasa is so compartmentalized that there is no way your "friends" even knew what they were working on, not the big picture.
 Quoting: JuergenHess

You're completely changing horses again. I'm not going to keep playing whack a mole with you every time you want to change the subject. Nothing you just said had anything to do with what I said, again.
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry, not trying to bug you I just like to consume info, and would like info you have, what are your thoughts on the book Gravitational Force of the Sun? if you haven't read it here is a summary [link to thelivingmoon.com]
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My thoughts are that I'll start hemorrhaging IQ points if I read that book. Universal gravitation works, I'm sorry but that's not even up for debate.
 Quoting: Astromut


well i hope that works out for you then. I'm trying my best to give info, seems you are not though
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You're completely changing horses again. I'm not going to keep playing whack a mole with you every time you want to change the subject. Nothing you just said had anything to do with what I said, again.
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry, not trying to bug you I just like to consume info, and would like info you have, what are your thoughts on the book Gravitational Force of the Sun? if you haven't read it here is a summary [link to thelivingmoon.com]
 Quoting: JuergenHess


My thoughts are that I'll start hemorrhaging IQ points if I read that book. Universal gravitation works, I'm sorry but that's not even up for debate.
 Quoting: Astromut


well i hope that works out for you then. I'm trying my best to give info, seems you are not though
 Quoting: JuergenHess

No offense, but I am trying my best to give info, but I can only be pulled in a finite number of directions at once. At the moment I'm taking a look at info on asteroid 2012 KA.
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05/16/2012 03:52 PM
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sorry, not trying to bug you I just like to consume info, and would like info you have, what are your thoughts on the book Gravitational Force of the Sun? if you haven't read it here is a summary [link to thelivingmoon.com]
 Quoting: JuergenHess


My thoughts are that I'll start hemorrhaging IQ points if I read that book. Universal gravitation works, I'm sorry but that's not even up for debate.
 Quoting: Astromut


well i hope that works out for you then. I'm trying my best to give info, seems you are not though
 Quoting: JuergenHess

No offense, but I am trying my best to give info, but I can only be pulled in a finite number of directions at once. At the moment I'm taking a look at info on asteroid 2012 KA.
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and your opinion of the moon photo i posted?
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05/16/2012 04:30 PM
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and your opinion of the moon photo i posted?
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Too low resolution to tell

:-(

Would you please consider rescanning at at least 96dpi?
JuergenHess (OP)

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05/16/2012 04:34 PM
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and your opinion of the moon photo i posted?
 Quoting: JuergenHess


Too low resolution to tell

:-(

Would you please consider rescanning at at least 96dpi?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16032346


if i could i would. I have the original digital file of the complete picture, it's over 200 megs. I got it from john lear. as you can imagine, the pics are taken from pretty far away. You have to zoom in and look around for yourself. Even at the resolution it is when zoomed in that far, you can tell it isn't a bunch of natural formations
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Massive fan of this project! We need to think big like the explorers of the past. Otherwise we'd just stagnate.

Add this to James Camerons plan to mine asteroids and suddenly people are interested in space again!

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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and your opinion of the moon photo i posted?
 Quoting: JuergenHess


Too low resolution to tell

:-(

Would you please consider rescanning at at least 96dpi?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16032346


if i could i would. I have the original digital file of the complete picture, it's over 200 megs. I got it from john lear. as you can imagine, the pics are taken from pretty far away. You have to zoom in and look around for yourself. Even at the resolution it is when zoomed in that far, you can tell it isn't a bunch of natural formations
 Quoting: JuergenHess


I can't tell that. It just looks like a photo of the moon, it's impossible to tell for sure at that resolution but that could be a rille or a it could be a trail of ejecta craters. I don't have the time right now to play detective and try to figure out the photo's originating mission and number.
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and your opinion of the moon photo i posted?
 Quoting: JuergenHess


Too low resolution to tell

:-(

Would you please consider rescanning at at least 96dpi?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16032346


if i could i would. I have the original digital file of the complete picture, it's over 200 megs. I got it from john lear. as you can imagine, the pics are taken from pretty far away. You have to zoom in and look around for yourself. Even at the resolution it is when zoomed in that far, you can tell it isn't a bunch of natural formations
 Quoting: JuergenHess


I can't tell that. It just looks like a photo of the moon, it's impossible to tell for sure at that resolution but that could be a rille or a it could be a trail of ejecta craters. I don't have the time right now to play detective and try to figure out the photo's originating mission and number.
 Quoting: Astromut


originating mission and number? why would you look that up? John has that info already. Now you are the one changing horses? well detective I hope your day goes well
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:zomgsmile:
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Black Hole Sun, interesting still.
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One of the main problems I've considered is that if you build an engine that warps space you simultaneously warp time making this a bit more complicated then just strapping on more powerful rockets. Pilots would need to find their "Zen" to be able to fly one as the immediate past and potential futures warp around them.

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The ships exist....so the problem has been solved....by somebody.
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his website is now working again

[link to www.buildtheenterprise.org]
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

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JuergenHess (OP)

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his website is now working again

[link to www.buildtheenterprise.org]
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thank heaven, now that he solved the web problem he can get to work on the dilithium crystals
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Re: Building a functional Star Trek Enterprise!!!
One of the main problems I've considered is that if you build an engine that warps space you simultaneously warp time making this a bit more complicated then just strapping on more powerful rockets. Pilots would need to find their "Zen" to be able to fly one as the immediate past and potential futures warp around them.

$.02crazy
 Quoting: IRQ_1


The ships exist....so the problem has been solved....by somebody.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


on his site he says they should be able to complete the first ship in 20 years.. you'd think it would be possible to do it MUCH sooner then that due to the advent of Nantechnology/nano-assemblers
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
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Functional???????


I think visually the new Star Trek was interesting , and being old enough to remember the old tv show which I saw it in my BLACK AND WHITE tv I gotta say I felt they respected the series. Yet I was dissapointed with the plot, this lack of ideas, this getting back over and over to the time-travel FXs to sort out problems in the past or future. I wonder if audience do still have some memory of the old philosophical or esoteric episodes. It seems most of the films wanna show millions of edited frames of interstellar battles to hide the lack of originality. I think it's true older generation had films while currently we have remakes. In The City at the Edge of Eternity there was no need of a ship but the Stargate Machine-Being which was like a monolith from Tiahuanaco, Bolivia. Rodenberry was original because he KNEW ancient esoterism and incorporated his knowledge with science fiction. Hence in other episode we saw a sort of Egyptian obelisc which was a computer that became like a god.

Forget Star Trek teletransporting for a while. When you turn someone into energy what pops out is energy equivalent of 1000 H BOMBS exploding simmultaneously and without mentioning the $$$$$ cost, the ENERGY to reassamble a human being requires 3.200 SUNS, not to mention if you don't wanna become a monster like THE FLY you would have to destroy just the bad ones among 90 trillion organisms. The only time I remember they actually showed something of the problem was Motionless Picture. A film which went towards the opposite direction: total boredom. We need a "bridge" between action and intelligent script. To "fax" a 2D image is easy but the resolution to fax or scan a 3D human being requires filing 909 PETABYTES (1 petabyte=1 million gigabytes), new computers come with hard drivers around 500 GB, so it'd take 2 million of the hard drivers to store you; the storage itself would be 30 times million-square foot Facebook data centers.

You remember Uhura barely transmitting some signals? Well, not just if a solar flare or other energies create a "fuzzy" problem you may reach destiny with your arms growing out of your eye sockets..., not to mention in every teletransport they will have to find a way not to create other clones or copies and remember the teletransported HAVE TO BE DESTROYED a bit like Jet Li in the film, The One if my memory doesn't betray me.

Script writers should investigate ancient concepts and present them fresh, fresh leftovers. I wonder how many of them know Incas concept of time-space is like 3 bubbles or interconnected spheres and for them future is BEHIND them, literally on their backs. Anyway, what we'll probably see is a Caucasian Khan, won't we? Interesting a famous astronomer mentioned the modern concept of vaccum reminds the ancient Inca concept of empty dark places in the sky.

But, I am not naïve. We can't expect ideas from Kurtzman who wrote Transformers, can we?
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Don't waste valuable antimatter on propulsion, burn Jews!
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Well, with White's revised version of the Alcubierre drive, I see `warp` technology happening within the next three decades, maybe sooner. It still requires a tremendous ammount of energy, but I think it's nothing an extensive nuclear powerplant can not handle. There's still Star Trek's option of powering it per Antimatter, but that's highly risky.
Perhaps though, an antimatter powerplant build on the moon, or in high orbit would suffice in creating fuel in a safer way.

Now for building the bloody thing, there's always that proposed Japanese space-elevator; once finished, it would reduce further costs a lot.
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Good luck figuring out the warp drive

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 Quoting: JuergenHess


Space-time folding by creating a WORMHOLE (a WARP) solves that issue.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

Just saying something solves the problem doesn't.
We don't know how to do that.

Nuclear powered? No thanks. Let's forget the whole thing. Manned space exploration is dead for the next 50 years. Dark Ages first...
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Coward! Radiophobe! Infidel!

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One question has always bugged me when I watched Star-Trek:

OK it's not too farfetched to think that in a few hundred years we'll be able to transport objects over large distances (they've already done this with atoms), but a human being ?

We're not just molecules put together in a certain order, we have consciousness, we have a soul ! How do you transport those ?

IMO teleporting a human will involve much more than disintegrating him from one place and having the technology and the capacity to store that information and use it to put him back together... !
 Quoting: subzero86

The transported introduced a whole series of philosophical questions.
In the Star Trek universe there were a lot of people who refused to go through the process.
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this whole thing is a waste of money, human beings can't get through the Van Allen belt,
 Quoting: JuergenHess

Why do you lie?

the van allen belt is a HUGE sphere
 Quoting: JuergenHess

Get ye to a dictionary.

They're belts, btw.

I don't think the Apollo missions ever went there to begin with
 Quoting: JuergenHess

What you think is immaterial.

You made a claim of FACT.
Your burden to proof it.
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