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"The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"

 
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"The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
I'm 70% through this video and I'd appreciate someone debunking it.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I started googling about the way satellites travel and *appear* to travel from my point of view and found this video.

(because of this thread [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Earth rotates at around 1000mph // Does that not mean that for every hour a satellite in polar orbit is observed it should appear to be 1000miles to the west? // when reading "1000miles to the west" remember, I'm trying to describe something moving across the sky with limited vocab.")


If you can manage to listen to this guy's ideas (youtube vid) and not write him off with a knee jerk reaction, I'd really appreciate reading your thoughts on what he has to say.

(He makes sense - think about what he says before concluding)
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are u assuming the satalites are staying in place ._.? if the earth is spinning 10k mph then they send the satalite far enough out to where the orbit is stable for it too to go around us at 10k mph and not fly off or hit the ground
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give me 25 mins... so far all his arguements are easily dismissed...
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before i waste 20 more minutes can u tell me if or if not his entire arguement is about the rate of the earth vs things in the air >.>?
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Haven't watched the remaining 30%

Feels like he's a witch, poisoning my ears ;)

(/sarc for those that need telling)
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are u assuming the satalites are staying in place ._.? if the earth is spinning 10k mph then they send the satalite far enough out to where the orbit is stable for it too to go around us at 10k mph and not fly off or hit the ground
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Nah..

You'd have to read the other thread to get it - the link I posted is to a post in the thread which asks the question in the best way I can.

If you do read it, bear in mind what I was watching is in a POLAR orbit. And is not geosynchronous.

(I know term for geosync'd polar orbit is different.. cba to look it up - you get what I mean from what I've said, I'm sure.)
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before i waste 20 more minutes can u tell me if or if not his entire arguement is about the rate of the earth vs things in the air >.>?
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Seems so - I just flicked through the remainder.
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before i waste 20 more minutes can u tell me if or if not his entire arguement is about the rate of the earth vs things in the air >.>?
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Seems so - I just flicked through the remainder.
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apologies btw.
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ok what hes doing with that retarded helicopter example is the air is moving 1k mph and the earth is moving 1k mph so were even and theres no air really pushing us but with that tiny helicopter he is going about 1005 mph vs 1k mph wind and that 5k mph wind that u feel then is whats making it move diagonally... the air is actually getting shifted with the spinning earth... imagine when u were a kid in a bath tub and the waters still but then u want to make a whirlpool so you start spinning ur hand(the earth) and it makes a whirlpool :O in the middle its as fast as ur hand was going but aroudn the edges its slower ( thats why to us it is very windy the higher u go) for the satalite going straight up and diagonally your going 1k mph around a circle(your going to have to imagine this) and its a huge friggin circle now lets say the circle is 1k miles radius the orbit its going is only like 1010 miles from the core so thats only +1% of the circle! now imagine that dot is going 1k mph around the smaller circle in 1 hour it will go all 360 degrees which is 3.14 million miles :O! but if it went that speed on the 1010 it would only go roughly 355 degrees (not a full circle) and would have still gone 3.14 million miles the reason you get that diagonal isnt because it slows down but because its going into a bigger circle where it needs to go faster to make the same circle around it sorry im bad at explaining things hope this helped
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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
I'm 70% through this video and I'd appreciate someone debunking it.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com]

I started googling about the way satellites travel and *appear* to travel from my point of view and found this video.
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Haven't we already gone trough this, OP?

If I'd try to debunk each and every internet lunatic garbage I'd surely burn out after few weeks.
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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
another bibletard video, be careful of these tards if you don't know much about physics or astronomy they will make you believe silly stuff.

Basically in the helicopter example, the reason why it does not continue to move with the object is due to friction/drag of the atmosphere.If the truck was in space and the helipcoter moved up vertical it would continue to move with the truck because there won't be any friction.
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ok what hes doing with that retarded helicopter example is the air is moving 1k mph and the earth is moving 1k mph so for a stand still lift off theres no air really pushing us but with that tiny helicopter he is going about 1005 mph vs 1k mph wind and that 5 mph wind is what u feel and that is what's making it move diagonally... and to explain his second part about the air going along with us the air is actually getting shifted with the spinning earth...

imagine when u were a kid in a bath tub and the waters still but then u want to make a whirlpool so you start spinning ur hand(the earth) and it makes a whirlpool :O in the middle its as fast as ur hand was going but aroudn the edges its slower ( thats why to us it is very windy the higher u go)

now for the satalite going straight up and diagonally your going 1k mph around a circle(your going to have to imagine this) and its a huge friggin circle now lets say the circle is 1k miles radius the orbit its going is only like 1010 miles from the core so thats only +1% of the circle! now imagine that dot is going 1k mph around the smaller circle in 1 hour it will go all 360 degrees which is 3.14 million miles :O! but if it went that speed on the 1010 it would only go roughly 355 degrees (not a full circle) and would have still gone 3.14 million miles the reason you get that diagonal isnt because it slows down but because its going into a bigger circle where it needs to go faster to make the same circle around it sorry im bad at explaining things hope this helped
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lol im not really good at explaining i can hardly make out wtf i ment
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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
I'm 70% through this video and I'd appreciate someone debunking it.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com]

I started googling about the way satellites travel and *appear* to travel from my point of view and found this video.
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Haven't we already gone trough this, OP?

If I'd try to debunk each and every internet lunatic garbage I'd surely burn out after few weeks.
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We went through nothing.. you asked how I knew the satellite I saw was in a polar orbit in the other thread, then left.

You didn't debunk anything.

If you don't care, and you aren't shilling, kindly don't reply...
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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
I keep seeing these threads, and I see the sun moving thru the sky fine enough, the moon doing the same, and the stars at night moving as they should, so I have to assume the earth is rotating reasonably normally.
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ok what hes doing with that retarded helicopter example is the air is moving 1k mph and the earth is moving 1k mph so for a stand still lift off theres no air really pushing us but with that tiny helicopter he is going about 1005 mph vs 1k mph wind and that 5 mph wind is what u feel and that is what's making it move diagonally... and to explain his second part about the air going along with us the air is actually getting shifted with the spinning earth...

imagine when u were a kid in a bath tub and the waters still but then u want to make a whirlpool so you start spinning ur hand(the earth) and it makes a whirlpool :O in the middle its as fast as ur hand was going but aroudn the edges its slower ( thats why to us it is very windy the higher u go)

now for the satalite going straight up and diagonally your going 1k mph around a circle(your going to have to imagine this) and its a huge friggin circle now lets say the circle is 1k miles radius the orbit its going is only like 1010 miles from the core so thats only +1% of the circle! now imagine that dot is going 1k mph around the smaller circle in 1 hour it will go all 360 degrees which is 3.14 million miles :O! but if it went that speed on the 1010 it would only go roughly 355 degrees (not a full circle) and would have still gone 3.14 million miles the reason you get that diagonal isnt because it slows down but because its going into a bigger circle where it needs to go faster to make the same circle around it sorry im bad at explaining things hope this helped
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lol im not really good at explaining i can hardly make out wtf i ment
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You do make sense, maybe :)

Thing is, with the satellite - It's in a polar orbit, and going straight up - I expected an up+diagonal(west) direction because of what you just said.. thing is, there was no diagonal to it - just straight up.
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I keep seeing these threads, and I see the sun moving thru the sky fine enough, the moon doing the same, and the stars at night moving as they should, so I have to assume the earth is rotating reasonably normally.
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but when you assume, you make an ass outta you and an ass outta me.

;)
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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
ok what hes doing with that retarded helicopter example is the air is moving 1k mph and the earth is moving 1k mph so for a stand still lift off theres no air really pushing us but with that tiny helicopter he is going about 1005 mph vs 1k mph wind and that 5 mph wind is what u feel and that is what's making it move diagonally... and to explain his second part about the air going along with us the air is actually getting shifted with the spinning earth...

imagine when u were a kid in a bath tub and the waters still but then u want to make a whirlpool so you start spinning ur hand(the earth) and it makes a whirlpool :O in the middle its as fast as ur hand was going but aroudn the edges its slower ( thats why to us it is very windy the higher u go)

now for the satalite going straight up and diagonally your going 1k mph around a circle(your going to have to imagine this) and its a huge friggin circle now lets say the circle is 1k miles radius the orbit its going is only like 1010 miles from the core so thats only +1% of the circle! now imagine that dot is going 1k mph around the smaller circle in 1 hour it will go all 360 degrees which is 3.14 million miles :O! but if it went that speed on the 1010 it would only go roughly 355 degrees (not a full circle) and would have still gone 3.14 million miles the reason you get that diagonal isnt because it slows down but because its going into a bigger circle where it needs to go faster to make the same circle around it sorry im bad at explaining things hope this helped
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lol im not really good at explaining i can hardly make out wtf i ment
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You do make sense, maybe :)

Thing is, with the satellite - It's in a polar orbit, and going straight up - I expected an up+diagonal(west) direction because of what you just said.. thing is, there was no diagonal to it - just straight up.
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well i dont know anything about astrophysics but i would assume u wouldnt start the movement till u were out of the atmosphere to avoid as much air resistance as u can (to move in space they shoot air out of a container i think)
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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
I keep seeing these threads, and I see the sun moving thru the sky fine enough, the moon doing the same, and the stars at night moving as they should, so I have to assume the earth is rotating reasonably normally.
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but when you assume, you make an ass outta you and an ass outta me.

;)
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alright , let me make that more clear. the earth IS rotating mostly as it should, but it hiccups now and then, leaps ahead, slows down in its rotation and it gets hiccups too in its tilt.
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I keep seeing these threads, and I see the sun moving thru the sky fine enough, the moon doing the same, and the stars at night moving as they should, so I have to assume the earth is rotating reasonably normally.
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but when you assume, you make an ass outta you and an ass outta me.

;)
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I admit, the "earth rotation" part of the other thread's title was sensationalist. It's meant to be - for a better chance of a reply.

I find it outrageous that people say the earth doesn't rotate. But then I would - since I've been told the opposite since birth.

The satellite is still not behaving as it should. I just thought someone on here would know why.
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I keep seeing these threads, and I see the sun moving thru the sky fine enough, the moon doing the same, and the stars at night moving as they should, so I have to assume the earth is rotating reasonably normally.
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but when you assume, you make an ass outta you and an ass outta me.

;)
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alright , let me make that more clear. the earth IS rotating mostly as it should, but it hiccups now and then, leaps ahead, slows down in its rotation and it gets hiccups too in its tilt.
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;) = I'm fucking around.

I'm tired of wondering about the satellite now. It's not effecting my day-to-day life, like I said above, I expected someone to have a decent reason to hand as to why.
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I'm 70% through this video and I'd appreciate someone debunking it.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com]

I started googling about the way satellites travel and *appear* to travel from my point of view and found this video.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6801463

Haven't we already gone trough this, OP?

If I'd try to debunk each and every internet lunatic garbage I'd surely burn out after few weeks.
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Lunatic garbage? Ok ur a douche. And to think u honestly have the knowledge to debunk anyone is ridiculous. Based off resent research, science as we have been taught was complete bullshit. Maybe you should be open mided, you might learn something new yourself.

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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
I'm 70% through this video and I'd appreciate someone debunking it.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com]

I started googling about the way satellites travel and *appear* to travel from my point of view and found this video.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6801463

Haven't we already gone trough this, OP?

If I'd try to debunk each and every internet lunatic garbage I'd surely burn out after few weeks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16092389


Lunatic garbage? Ok ur a douche. And to think u honestly have the knowledge to debunk anyone is ridiculous. Based off resent research, science as we have been taught was complete bullshit. Maybe you should be open mided, you might learn something new yourself.

Dont attempt to attach me, i am no enemy. Much love. Just be open minded my friend. This is a time of enlightenment, for us all.
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Thx for speaking my mind :)
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look @ this OP



If you think that the theory of the Earth's rotation around the sun - it is absolutely proven fact, then you are sadly mistaken. In this theory are so many inconsistencies that it has long been located on the same shelf with Darwin's theory of the origin of man from apes.

Some benefits that people do not know the truth, and this deception vaccinated since childhood, from school, then to people growing up in a false world view completely. The most amazing thing that so many people believe that the Earth revolves around the sun, which is not able to perceive reality.

Their laughter is the information that makes them similar to patients in psychiatric hospitals.How terrible would sound to you now is the information that the sun revolves around the Earth? Do you certain there would be a strong emotional drama within you. Your brain refused to accept it. But to know for sure - you need to be in the sun, to see that the Earth revolves around.

It is impossible to do, so everything that exists - is a theory and another theory. Even the spacecraft can not help you to understand that revolves around something. Because what does not and can not be in space reasons, some points on which we can judge on the motion of something. For example you are sitting in front of the train and the train is. And here you see a movement.

Who is going? Train your front or train? You are looking at the ground below, and you know who is moving. But in space it is impossible, everything is moving in space. And it is impossible not only to understand what is moving, but that which moves around.More and more scientists in our time have come to the conclusion that there is a joint motion of the Sun and the Earth with respect to each other.

That is, not (and indeed can not be) a rigid conception of what the earth revolves around the sun. At this point at the moment the two most important fact is the presence of analemma and equation of time.But all this goes beyond simple words and the conversation flows on a more sophisticated level. So if you want to know more - learn about it. Knowing the truth is very important. Especially many may shake the scale of fraud, which reigns around.I also recommend the study of Vedic cosmology to derive consciousness from the stupor of "scientific" worldview. Orig. link rus [link to youtu.be]
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one thing is always constant... change.

Change is always happening. And we should actually be grateful for that.

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THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
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THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
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wrong, that's ridiculous: Thread: 70 Facts about our Economy Obama Probably doesn't want you to see:
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Re: "The Earth is not rotating like they tell us"
What if the sun isn't "rising" every day in all locations?

What if they are using synthetic lighting to illuminate a consistently "cloudy" sky?

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