why young men never want to marry ? read this

churches are for women.they are just dating places for single mothers

Well, they did a great job of pitting us all against each other, didn't they?

Race, color, sex. We all just hate each other.

I mean, I know it's awful out there. All the career women think I'm a dolt for raising a family and taking care of my male partner. Hell, I've even had women try to sexually molester me (to turn on the guys. Yuck.) I have seen plenty in my 30 years. Swingers, divorce, the crazy lengths that both women and men go to to pi$$ each other off. I've seen kids dragged through relationship after relationship and fighting and arguing that no children should have to witness. I see the "mac daddys" in their trucks who treat women like garbage. I've seen women demanding things that they shouldn't rightly be asking for after two months of dating (like marriage, cars, vacations etc) I've seen seperated parents using their children as swords to hurt each other (both men and women, it works both ways)

I don't like any of it. I don't partake of any of it. I choose not to.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, maybe I'm deluded. Maybe I'm lucky. I don't know......

I also know that there are those that want different things from life and relationships. Go ahead and have it, just make sure it makes you and the ones you love happy.

I think there are alot out there like me, deep inside, it's really hard to break from the social norms. Not just in relationships, but in everything. You are all on a fringe conspiracy forum. You all know this. Apply it to the other areas of your life too.

Stop playing the games of the social engineerers and start playing your own.

they are taught to hate fathers.A father loves his daughters more than sons.Only a father can understand this...dont know when this madness will end

Alot of women want to be "professional" office workers. I dont know why. Who would actually want to be an office slave? Women or men?

it is women like you whose children are going to become elites after some 20 yrs.just wait.remember queen Elizabeth 1,the virgin queen? died childless and her throne passed to son of her most ardent enemy,queen Mary of scotland.
all this battle of sexes is to promote destruction of society.Nobody can have a normal family except very wealthy elites.

The funny thing is that my father was/is kind of a tough guy in his way and when I was younger saw grandparents and uncles leave their wives that had been home-makers when they got past a certain age (some with children).

He was the one who taught me to be independent and to never rely on anyone. So, I learned how to not be traditional from my father who is still married to my mother after he had seen what jerks men could be to women who gave their youth doing the traditional thing.

I choose to become traditional when I got older and chose to be after proving that I can indeed take care of myself if need be, I have the confidence. Also, because I was young and independent while younger I have a good sense of money not growing on trees and it helps when being traditional to have a sense of thanks instead of entitlement.

Food for thought. Women didn't do this all by themselves, men can share equally in the blame.

True. That's not what they are supposed to be, but it's what they are. I'm Southern Baptist and I have come to loathe the Baptists for their social liberalism (pro-open borders, pro-interracial marriage, pro-war, pro-women soldiers, ad nauseum).

nothing against women doing jobs or earning money to proclaim their independence from patriarchy.in fact,every women employed should get wage she deserves.
the problem is battle have gone too far.nothing remains to be achieved with feminism now.if you think of being elected as president or in congress,let it be.if more women get elected to congress,every bit of those feminist laws will be changed in no time.

It's the socially destructive elite who have engineered this. It is not from the bottom up, it is from the top down. Both men and women have fallen for this satanic social engineering.

yes,men are also to be blamed.but they just took advantage of the situation.50 years back,nobody could hope to get regular sex out of marriage.now it is sustainable.more women liberated,more men enjoyed short term fruits.
men don't hate independent women.they hate when they start spewing their communist ideology in intimate moments

No.

Seriously there are women who don't care much about money. There are some women who like books and outdoor stuff and don't care about money. In America on our tv, in magazines, everywhere is the message that we should all strive to have lots of money!

If we have money we can buy newest fanciest car to impress others, expensive shoes and other stuff that is totally meaningless.

The Western European people by nature are not materialistic the way Americans now are. But with propaganda and commercials telling you how you should be, many people fall into these traps.

Wow I really sympathize with guys in your age group.....I'm gay and guess I don't have it as bad as you straight guys do!!

I've always wondered just how in the HELL straight guys put up with so many of these 'princesses' around nowadays.....while I was in high school - 1959!! - the girls back then acted like their pussies were made of silver or gold......not that I cared!! lol...but my straight friends who tried to get dates, etc., were usually treated like dirt......what in the hell these girls were expecting in a crappy town like the one I grew up in is beyond me.

Few years ago I met a straight guy on a chatline who was just looking to get some head....I did not do this for him but we did talk a lot on the phone..poor guy needed someone totally 'different' to talk to.....seems he was living with this slightly overweight chick who was always asking him for money to buy new clothes, jewelery,etc.......she had a job but just felt she was 'entitled' to his money, too!!

I told him that if he didn'r really love her,to tell her to pack her bags and get the hell out of his life..He said it's just not that easy........so I told him if he ever needed to talk about it, to feel free to call me......He called me a few more times then I never heard from him again..........Poor guy!! he's probably still being led around by the ring in his nose!

Anyway, my heart goes out to all you straight guys,esp. you younger ones - going thru this with 'the ladies'.......

Seems to me one of the problems is the way kids today are being raised.......they are 'so special' and do such a 'good job!".....(an unusually annoying saying that grinds my nerves!!!)...and so on...

Whatever happened to raising kids so that they had respect for themselves and other people, and to not expect the world to be handed to them???

I shudder to think what our country will be like in the next 10 to 20 years!!!

so straight guys, if you can get laid, do it......but marriage? I'd really think twice about it!!!

I agree. There is nothing wrong with women wanting careers. They don't have to have children. I know that some women can do both with a degree of success, but they are not actually raising their children. Hell, I've seen women give their month old babies to strangers to keep pushing their way to the top. Whats the point in having the kid? Is it to fulfill some social requirement?

Hey, if the guy wants to stay home and take care of the children thats great too. As long as all of this is mutual I'm all for breaking out of the mold.

The problem here is the "I don't need you" attitude. I'll make it to the top, I'll have it all with or without you. Children generally need to learn physical and emotional skills from both sexes, wether they are girls or boys, there are requirements from both parents. There is also a degree of social skills coming from a mutually respectful parental relatonship.

Its really an awful state that we've been led to. Here and now. Wars aren't just going on in the middle east. They have permeated our society, right down to the smallest family unit.

I am a woman who is very happy. I am a feminist. To me, this means that I support women being able to make choices in her life. In so many places in the world, women do not have any choices. They are raised to be breeding servants.
I also love men. Love them.
But I like being free to do my art. I chose not to have kids. I don't want to live with anyone, except myself.
I can have sex anytime I want. But I choose to share myself only when there is a deep connection, with men who love women.
A lot of men here at glp hate women for some reason.
Why are so many of you men so judgmental and controlling of women? Is it because you are single, lonely and sexually frustrated? Why do you care how other people choose to live their lives? If they are making free choices, then it should be no concern of yours. It is not like women in middle eastern countries who are covered from head to toe because men can't control their own lust (so women have to pay the price.)
I agree that men get the short end of the stick in some situations (eg: custody etc.) But overall, women still have a much worse time around the world.
If men don't want to marry, that is fine. Let them be free to choose their own destiny. If women don't want to marry, that is ok too.
Some people are too attached to old ways of doing things. If you follow your heart (while hurting none), mind your own business, and act with integrity, your choices should work out ok.

I don't understand why people argue about this ....marriage was created by God. When two people decide to marry and make a commitment, it is just as much a commitment to each other as it is to God. Some people were not meant to be married.

I married in my early 20s. Been married 17in years. I am happy. I also know my damn place. I believe rhe man is in charge. I never lrt myself go, i stay as pretty as i can and i OFFER blow jobs on a regular basis. If more women understood just how easy it is to keep a man happy, there would be more happily married people.

In return, i am well taken care of, treated like a queen and i have a best friend. That is what succezsful marriage is all about, being best friends. We also continue to have great sex and lots of laughs.

If you treat your mate with respect and love unconditionally you too can have a happy marriage.

All the marriage bashers are bashing what the have failed at.

When you put God first in your life, you get a blessed marriage that can withstand all storms.

Just my 2cents.

your message is the best,man.glad you escaped from all of this

And i would also note that ego is driven by programmed desire. If you are aware of that, you will not let your ego cause your to stray or cheat, just because the opposite sex shows some attention.

Divorce is at an all time high because people are driven by ego, not love.

Love is an action.... anyone who has experienced real love knows what i am talking about.

Couples who fall out of love have simply stopped communicating correctly.

If you are honest you will find true love. Gamers never win.

since you are feminist,you never see the reality.because ideological baggage have blinded you.when men get short end of the stick,no feminist ever shout"equality".

24 yo male here.

Beautifully written and is spot on. Obviously it is one perspective on relationships today (a male perspective at that), but it makes perfect sense. Ladies, dudes, don't get mad, just remember the points he makes, and observe if you find it to be truth.

No need for name calling

Agreed. No children. Living by herself, doing her "art". In other words, living a selfish life, making no contribution to the future of society. Sad.

Well I am not a man. I am a female in my late 20's. Today is my birthday, I am 28.
I do not want to marry. I agree with many things you have to say in your post.

Most of all? I dislike feminist.
Why? Because they have a certain level of disdain for people like me - the unwanted child.
They think people like me are better off dead.
My mother is one of them.
I am lucky enough to be alive and I say I am better off alive, even after all that I have been through.

“Dude, it’s like my soul has a cancerous tumor or something. The more I realize that he wasn’t there and I don’t know who I am the more it grows.”

One common refrain I heard from friends, and uttered myself as a latchkey kid, was this: “I live in a house, not a home.”

That brought a tear to my eye. That is me. I have never met my father and I do not even know his name. As far as I know he has never tried to contact me.
I found out by being a snoopy 15 year old. I found my birth certificate and was really shocked when there was not one word of information in the father section. I was also surprised that my mother was 15 when she had me. I asked my mother and she told me that my father did not want me, denied that I exist and that was the end of that. She had to drop out of school - because of me - and her life was ruined.
Although I doubt that is the full truth.
My mothers feeling for me are summed up in her own words, "I wish you were not born." I have heard that many times in my life. She has also told me to never have children because she does not want to be a grandmother.
I did not have many mornings of breakfasts either because my mother does not like breakfast.
I have many stories. I am no angel though.
I have had ex boyfriends - and I have had a lot of them - tell me I have "daddy issues".
Well, I disagree. I have more "mommy issues" than I do "daddy issues".
I am just happy that I can find the truth on my own.
The truth is the word "woman" and "mother" has become more and more an entitlement label.
And they think their children are their body that they can do with as they wish. Like the time my mother made me smoke a pack of cigarettes one day when I picked one up out of an ash tray. Now I smoke nearly a pack a day. Yeah I've been smoking since I was 7-8.
I was surprised one day last year when a woman was guilty of child abuse for this very action. Then it really sank in.

My boyfriend works with a young woman who said to him one day when he tried to help her "I am sexist, I do not take help from men."
He told me about it, he is a nice guy and tries to help people. I said so do not help her. But he wants to help anybody when he can. I work there too and I do not even acknowledge her existence.
My mothers bitterness and my fathers denial. LOL

Anyway, I am 28 today. I have often wondered why I am alive. I have come to the idea that if it were not for my mother's families religious beliefs and the law of our country back then, I would not be alive.
Three things feminist despise: religion, law, unwanted children.

In this world, if you can take yourself that's enough in my book. Having children with several different men and needing assistance is more deserving or your condemnation than someone who takes care of herself without needing your assistance.

That being said, children ARE a blessing but let's not get so caught up in belief that you can't see the difference. It's really okay to be selfish as long as your not dragging someone else into it. Many mothers are selfish and really shouldn't have brought others into their miserable lives.

It is not OK to be selfish. Selfishness is morally wrong. We are not here to simply live for ourselves. Selfishness is part of the satanic social engineering of the elite.

I don't think I'm materialistic and neither does my husband.

I hate shopping and wasting money on things we don't need.
My husband has a minor tendency to buy things we could do without. Not that bad, though.

We own a small business and I also work part-time in retail.
It disgusts me to watch the female shoppers pushing around carts full of crap and frantically trying on way to many clothes just looking for ANYTHING to waste money on.
And they're also the first ones to tell you they don't really need anything.
Everyone buys stuff they don't need sometimes, but what I see is unbelievable.
I don't understand.

Besides working my job and working at our business, I do most of the yard work and most of the housework, but my husband does help out.

I don't want or need a bunch of appliances. Our dishwasher crapped out over a year ago and I've never even considered buying a new one so I hand wash the dishes. It's actually relaxing.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping the microwave is next.

If we need something for the house, the first thing I do is see if there's a way to make it myself.
I sew, crochet and am pretty darn good at building furniture. I have the bookcases ( my one shopping weakness is books) and tables and lawn furniture to prove it.
I wanted a picture for the living room so I painted one myself.

You'll find me at Lowe's way before you'll find me at the mall.

I have almost no understanding of the mindset of a typical female consumer.
What I see at work is way beyond ridiculous and some days I can barely stand it.
I work today and the thought of it is killing me because today I'm in the fitting room. Piles of clothes that they don't need, but are pathetically desperate to have.
Did you know that some women even try on pajamas??????

Some days I struggle to keep my mouth shut.

If her art were illustrations for children's bibles and she dedicated herself to this, would that be selfish in your opinion?

Selfishness is all in perspective sometimes.

I think it's selfish to bring someone into this world when you still want to party every night.--But that is MY hang up and I'll own up to it.

You may have a different hang up, and you don't even know this person. She may donate to the earthquakes, shelters, etc. She may help build HUD homes. Who are some of you to judge that someone pursuing their art is selfish, anyway?

Feminism is too far out for me to be all the way on board, but judging by some of the comments I can see how we got there.

Don't let them pressure you into marrying? Yeah, good. So just sleep with 'em until your through-LOL and you wonder why so many women have started looking at marriage like a business!

I see both sides, unlike some really messed up minds here.

Red herring. Her art is probably nonsense.

She's a selfish woman, living a meaningless life, hurting men and herself by having meaningless sex.

That is all.

Illuminati killed the family.

It's an art form.

I'm sorry, but what part of my post indicates how I will be in an intimate relationship with someone I love? You don't know a 10th about me, so making a statement like that makes you seem like a assuming ignorant asshole.
All I know is that by the time I'm 23 I'll be with a guy who does NOT use GLP and who does not whine that women are taking over the world.