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In this world, if you can take yourself that's enough in my book. Having children with several different men and needing assistance is more deserving or your condemnation than someone who takes care of herself without needing your assistance.

That being said, children ARE a blessing but let's not get so caught up in belief that you can't see the difference. It's really okay to be selfish as long as your not dragging someone else into it. Many mothers are selfish and really shouldn't have brought others into their miserable lives.
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It is not OK to be selfish. Selfishness is morally wrong. We are not here to simply live for ourselves. Selfishness is part of the satanic social engineering of the elite.
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If her art were illustrations for children's bibles and she dedicated herself to this, would that be selfish in your opinion?
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Red herring. Her art is probably nonsense.

She's a selfish woman, living a meaningless life, hurting men and herself by having meaningless sex.
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That is all.
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Illuminati killed the family.

It's an art form.
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I'm sure you'll make a great EX wife for some unlucky guy some day




Is this really even a subject worth talking about?
Call me romantically idealistic, but if I am in to a guy, and he likes me there is nothing this fucking complicated involved. You go on dates, he pays, you calm him down when he's angry, he tells you you're beautiful, you boost his ego by being with him and enjoying it. There's exchanges, sacrifices, and losses in every relationship with any depth. If you feel so inclined you get married, if you realize you aren't 'in love' and aren't ready to settle down you don't. It's because we like to think that shit is so multidimensional and complex that it becomes exactly that.

He has a penis and I have a vagina which is why we are attracted in the first place. Humans weren't required to live together for centuries and share every single memory together (because we're built simply to reproduce) but the beautiful thing is that WE CAN and we shouldn't take it for granted (or fucking overanalyze it like you)

Well, good luck finding someone that can stand you, and your theory!!


whatever
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I'm sorry, but what part of my post indicates how I will be in an intimate relationship with someone I love? You don't know a 10th about me, so making a statement like that makes you seem like a assuming ignorant asshole.
All I know is that by the time I'm 23 I'll be with a guy who does NOT use GLP and who does not whine that women are taking over the world.
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women are no longer submissive to men. and young males have trouble financially raising a family on a high school diploma. women dont want to marry low income males
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forget about submissiveness.women today are plain evil gold diggers.young men just stay away from ultrafeminist gold digger sluts
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Goodness that is rather harsh!
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once you experience family courts,you understand women are not good.
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I'm so grateful you began a thread like this one, OP.
What we have to do now is find meaning and purpose for your generation, which I deeply understand in terms of how we are all the products of Social Engineering and empty non-values that brought us all here...to this day. This day is fresh.

Before this day arose, many of us sat silent, many hours in a room like you feeling at a loss...because the foundational basis of our being never happened.

You didn't mention the central cause for your pain, which is the need to love and be loved by a woman.
I wish you love, to hold the idea you can call yourself one on the cutting edge of your genetic line. That is a lonely yet fresh, creative spot to be on...and that you CAN carve your sense of trustworthiness, eliminate the legacy of abandonment and form bonds based on YOUR vision, not the impoverished one that caused so many like you to die to it.
I know, I know.
Once the problems which feel absolutely impossible are identified you're going to have to die to them and recreate meaning that has been scrubbed off our souls via societal pressures, men and women together, excavating new territory of warmth, belonging and knowing we can count on each other because we've earned it through our actions, committing to be there for one another.

Men are needing to turn to their male friends to rediscover loyalty and sharing what you know, music, building, craftsmanship, what it's like to 'uncle' your friends new children..befriending women..who also have a font of creativity and the need to give buried inside their hearts, just like men. Men and women together are tremendously dynamic given the chance, a clue on how to begin.

As the mother of a 24 yr old son, your song haunts me because your predicament is so commonplace right now.
I had to leave his dad because of his violent habits, and packed up my car driving 1,000 miles 4 months pregnant, took no child support knowing my son and I couldn't afford the turmoil that kind of money would bring.
I withstood pressures and predictable anger expressing how I thought it was wrong to leave a child so young with strangers all day, even if I was offered 100g's a year to abandon him. He slept in his crib in my room. I comforted him when he cried. He got equal time in the playground with
me whenever he had to drone out waiting for me to get things done. Educating myself mainly through Robert Bly and others on the needs, expression and magic of young boys and men. Attempting (never for long) to have admiring men who would teach him he is worthwhile and more. Always always having breakfast and dinner together. Resisting pharma from school who played on their total b.s. 'professional' opinions that clawed at my confidence yet never gave in.

Today we cherish our closeness as the small family we are.
We drop everything and go to one another, there for each other at all times. I too experienced being utterly ignored and untended to by my 'father', who in turn was ignored and untended by his own father. My son's father didn't have a father who died of alcoholism at the age of 61 after their divorce.
So now my son (I received full custody) has never seen his dad (we were married 10 years) who "wasn't interested" and is still single living in the homes of more established women, unmarried to this day.

So here we all are. Less than ideal by old standards, overwhelmingly successful by the recognition of how precious it is to be loyal and generate love. It is where we all begin. A fresh gesture and intention.

So I say to you, OP. Expect it to be funky. That is OK.
Create your bottom line (LOVE, being there) and walk through fire if necessary (and you will) once you create that bottom line as your only cause to direct you.

I wish you warm profound love, OP. You've already given up all that is false, so take up what is not false and live for that alone.
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Masculinity is no longer embraced in Western culture. In the past men were self-regulating in terms of their masculinity, and gave themselves few boundaries as to what was culturally acceptable. Beating their wives or children if they chose to, without consequence; embracing alcohol consumption to the point women demanded (and got) prohibition in the U.S.; so on and so on.

Women today may act feminine, neutral or masculine. They can wear dresses, skirts, shorts, pants.... makeup and jewellery or not... hair long or short, styled or plain. They can play sports on all girl teams or mix in with boy teams. They are now were men were 100 years ago, with very broad boundaries to express themselves. Men on the other hand have seen their masculinity restricted. Males express themselves far more physically than females, and the avenues for their expression has been crimped. No rough housing allowed. Wear a helmut. Hunting is bad, guns are evil. He can't rebuild his carburetor today because his car has computer chips telling the fuel injectors what to do. Detroit doesn't make masculine cars worth working on anymore, so it doesn't really matter. The police are the protectorate, not him.

If she has a child without his consent, he's committed to 18 years of child support and her lifetime in alimony, married or not. Don't tell me if he doesn't want children, then to keep his pants on. Women can sidestep contraception without his knowing it, if they so choose. The process isn't equitable and human nature will take advantage of any inequity. The pendulum will come to a mutually agreeable centre eventually, but it will take a couple more generations for it to be found. Mother Nature loves balance.

The Chinese will find fairly soon that killing daughters under their One Child policy will have left a few hundred million sons without anyone to marry. Our culture will find out that the social engineering of men through law will leave millions of Western women with no one interested in marrying them. They might find themselves having to learn Mandarin to find a husband.
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Brilliant.
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In this world, if you can take yourself that's enough in my book. Having children with several different men and needing assistance is more deserving or your condemnation than someone who takes care of herself without needing your assistance.

That being said, children ARE a blessing but let's not get so caught up in belief that you can't see the difference. It's really okay to be selfish as long as your not dragging someone else into it. Many mothers are selfish and really shouldn't have brought others into their miserable lives.
 Quoting: D'Light


It is not OK to be selfish. Selfishness is morally wrong. We are not here to simply live for ourselves. Selfishness is part of the satanic social engineering of the elite.
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If her art were illustrations for children's bibles and she dedicated herself to this, would that be selfish in your opinion?
 Quoting: D'Light


Red herring. Her art is probably nonsense.

She's a selfish woman, living a meaningless life, hurting men and herself by having meaningless sex.
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And you know this how? I don't understand people blaming someone they know nothing about. Who are any of us to blame anyone? We all need to work on ourselves. We are all here to learn and grow and to develop in our own ways. We were not all meant to be exactly alike. It is possible to do your own thing and still to respect others differences. As long as one is not infringing upon another's rights, it all good.
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Masculinity is no longer embraced in Western culture. In the past men were self-regulating in terms of their masculinity, and gave themselves few boundaries as to what was culturally acceptable. Beating their wives or children if they chose to, without consequence; embracing alcohol consumption to the point women demanded (and got) prohibition in the U.S.; so on and so on.

Women today may act feminine, neutral or masculine. They can wear dresses, skirts, shorts, pants.... makeup and jewellery or not... hair long or short, styled or plain. They can play sports on all girl teams or mix in with boy teams. They are now were men were 100 years ago, with very broad boundaries to express themselves. Men on the other hand have seen their masculinity restricted. Males express themselves far more physically than females, and the avenues for their expression has been crimped. No rough housing allowed. Wear a helmut. Hunting is bad, guns are evil. He can't rebuild his carburetor today because his car has computer chips telling the fuel injectors what to do. Detroit doesn't make masculine cars worth working on anymore, so it doesn't really matter. The police are the protectorate, not him.

If she has a child without his consent, he's committed to 18 years of child support and her lifetime in alimony, married or not. Don't tell me if he doesn't want children, then to keep his pants on. Women can sidestep contraception without his knowing it, if they so choose. The process isn't equitable and human nature will take advantage of any inequity. The pendulum will come to a mutually agreeable centre eventually, but it will take a couple more generations for it to be found. Mother Nature loves balance.

The Chinese will find fairly soon that killing daughters under their One Child policy will have left a few hundred million sons without anyone to marry. Our culture will find out that the social engineering of men through law will leave millions of Western women with no one interested in marrying them. They might find themselves having to learn Mandarin to find a husband.
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Brilliant.
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I disagree with the part about self-regulating. There have always been boundaries. The boundaries today, however, are anti-male and anti-human.
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I agree the numbers are really getting that ridiculous,


85% of women are chasing the top 15% of the men.


This is backed up by the fact dating sites did studies where women would rate

85% of men as un attractive losers, and only 15% of men as desirable.


The funny thing here though, is that 15% of men obviously dont want or need that 85% of women, they can scoop off and get the top level women,

the rest of the women get PUMPED and DUMPED by these men they are chasing so hard,

and this is where the ALL MEN ARE DOGS slogan of women is coming from,

because they are being fucked and dumped by these guys who dont want them,


And the figures on women getting married just to say they got married after they fucked their way through their 20's


is backed up by the fact women now initiate 80% of the divorces.

Women are too fat nowadays. It artificially raises the egos of all women and is becoming the norm. Men reinforce fatties because they are so desperate for pussy they'll settle for whatever they can get. The hot ones don't want to commit or are gold-diggers, unattainable to the average man. The good ones are taken.
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where did you get this statistics? plz tell me they are fake
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Nope. You see, men don't get how a woman thinks. We go through life and we basically see other men's stuff which is off limits to us. We can not just walk into their lives. It is their stuff and their lives are off limits to uw.

Woman go through life and see men's stuff and realize they can POTENTIALLY (no matter WHO IT IS... AND I MEAN NO MATTER WHO) can potentially walk in and become one with that shit.
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I agree the numbers are really getting that ridiculous,


85% of women are chasing the top 15% of the men.


This is backed up by the fact dating sites did studies where women would rate

85% of men as un attractive losers, and only 15% of men as desirable.


The funny thing here though, is that 15% of men obviously dont want or need that 85% of women, they can scoop off and get the top level women,

the rest of the women get PUMPED and DUMPED by these men they are chasing so hard,

and this is where the ALL MEN ARE DOGS slogan of women is coming from,

because they are being fucked and dumped by these guys who dont want them,


And the figures on women getting married just to say they got married after they fucked their way through their 20's


is backed up by the fact women now initiate 80% of the divorces.

Women are too fat nowadays. It artificially raises the egos of all women and is becoming the norm. Men reinforce fatties because they are so desperate for pussy they'll settle for whatever they can get. The hot ones don't want to commit or are gold-diggers, unattainable to the average man. The good ones are taken.
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where did you get this statistics? plz tell me they are fake
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Nope. You see, men don't get how a woman thinks. We go through life and we basically see other men's stuff which is off limits to us. We can not just walk into their lives. It is their stuff and their lives are off limits to uw.

Woman go through life and see men's stuff and realize they can POTENTIALLY (no matter WHO IT IS... AND I MEAN NO MATTER WHO) can potentially walk in and become one with that shit.
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... no matter how rich he is if the female is pretty/young/desirable enough (thanks to all the pre-adult loser boys fawning over them and teaching them they are) or even not that much, they still believe they have the power to get him (his stuff).

That is reinforced through their childhoods. I see young girls who have a snotty attitude already in their young teens and mommy doesn't mind at all... and they stare at the boob toob and watch for (you can see this) they watch for how the pretty girls get fawned over and get what they want.

Now the cycle repeats... with the men hiring the pretty girls for sex or watching/paying for porn or strip clubs. We provide these particular girls the income to get what they want without men.

So who suffers? Not the money$machine... it just keeps on churning.
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OP - good post.

Be the man you wish was around when you were a kid.

It is just as easy and as hard as that.
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2. the cosmo culture has already spread eveywhere, with VERY FEW exceptions
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THIS ^^^

The only exception these days are the most fundamental Islamic states in the Middle-East. And Gypsies in Europe. Amish in North America?

But those women are only for their own men.

Practically every other place has already this trash culture spread to, even Africa has it these days.
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I agree the numbers are really getting that ridiculous,


85% of women are chasing the top 15% of the men.


This is backed up by the fact dating sites did studies where women would rate

85% of men as un attractive losers, and only 15% of men as desirable.


The funny thing here though, is that 15% of men obviously dont want or need that 85% of women, they can scoop off and get the top level women,

the rest of the women get PUMPED and DUMPED by these men they are chasing so hard,

and this is where the ALL MEN ARE DOGS slogan of women is coming from,

because they are being fucked and dumped by these guys who dont want them,


And the figures on women getting married just to say they got married after they fucked their way through their 20's


is backed up by the fact women now initiate 80% of the divorces.

...

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where did you get this statistics? plz tell me they are fake
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Nope. You see, men don't get how a woman thinks. We go through life and we basically see other men's stuff which is off limits to us. We can not just walk into their lives. It is their stuff and their lives are off limits to uw.

Woman go through life and see men's stuff and realize they can POTENTIALLY (no matter WHO IT IS... AND I MEAN NO MATTER WHO) can potentially walk in and become one with that shit.
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... no matter how rich he is if the female is pretty/young/desirable enough (thanks to all the pre-adult loser boys fawning over them and teaching them they are) or even not that much, they still believe they have the power to get him (his stuff).

That is reinforced through their childhoods. I see young girls who have a snotty attitude already in their young teens and mommy doesn't mind at all... and they stare at the boob toob and watch for (you can see this) they watch for how the pretty girls get fawned over and get what they want.

Now the cycle repeats... with the men hiring the pretty girls for sex or watching/paying for porn or strip clubs. We provide these particular girls the income to get what they want without men.

So who suffers? Not the money$machine... it just keeps on churning.
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Hmmmm. Notice in Disney movies the mother always gets killed off and the daughters live with evil step mothers and non-existant Dads- Who eventually marry the handsomje prince and live happily ever after? Theres some social conditioning right there.

If you feel this way, go pop some sprogs and bring them up to be strong, humble adults. My daughter has no illusions about life. She is patient, wholesome, polite, intelligent, forgiving, understanding and humble. 12 years old, no cell phone, no cable, no organized sports, no name brand clothes, no make-up, no pressure. She has hobbies that she is dedicated to, respect for her elders and aspirations for herself that don't involve men or money.

Hopefully, all the men and women on here who feel they have been given the short end of the stick in regards to family and relationships get off their collective bottoms and make a change in this world. Your children don't have to be social pariahs because they don't live like all the other kids, my daughter happens to have a really nice group of friends who are similar to her in many ways. Not all men are a-holes, not all chicks are Ho's and the next generation doesn't have to be a brainwashed, recycled collective of everything that is wrong with this world.

Between the middle class suburbanites and the uneducated, brain dead, TV zombies pumping out babies left and right we need to create some kind of balance. Have lots and lots of beautiful children.....Love them, teach them, cherish them.
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I completely agree with you on this entire post brother. To be honest, I've completely given up the idea of dating for the time being. Kids are way to damn expensive and most of the women I run into have a very narrow scope of reality: shop, watch television, and gossip.

This planet is going to decomplexify and television and shopping will become a memory of the past. Then you will find out what being a man is all about that this bonanza of cheap electrical and liquid fuel energy has done for us: splitting logs at 2 am on a winter night to keep your family warm, plowing a field so you don't starve. Nothing sexier than a woman who knows how to grow food. NOTHING.
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You mingle in the wrong crowd

My niece, who is 23, just graduated with cum laude in science and psychology and is now a teacher at a college level...

Her friends are all the same way...

In fact, one owns her own IT business at 24 years old...

Many women today are smart ; well educated and not like what you described...

there are those ...but you run with the wrong crown then

Get out of the bar scene and find quality and become quality yourself...

and you will attract quality then
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i missed the part where he said he wanted some book smart skank.
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where did you get this statistics? plz tell me they are fake
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Nope. You see, men don't get how a woman thinks. We go through life and we basically see other men's stuff which is off limits to us. We can not just walk into their lives. It is their stuff and their lives are off limits to uw.

Woman go through life and see men's stuff and realize they can POTENTIALLY (no matter WHO IT IS... AND I MEAN NO MATTER WHO) can potentially walk in and become one with that shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298967

... no matter how rich he is if the female is pretty/young/desirable enough (thanks to all the pre-adult loser boys fawning over them and teaching them they are) or even not that much, they still believe they have the power to get him (his stuff).

That is reinforced through their childhoods. I see young girls who have a snotty attitude already in their young teens and mommy doesn't mind at all... and they stare at the boob toob and watch for (you can see this) they watch for how the pretty girls get fawned over and get what they want.

Now the cycle repeats... with the men hiring the pretty girls for sex or watching/paying for porn or strip clubs. We provide these particular girls the income to get what they want without men.

So who suffers? Not the money$machine... it just keeps on churning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298967


Hmmmm. Notice in Disney movies the mother always gets killed off and the daughters live with evil step mothers and non-existant Dads- Who eventually marry the handsomje prince and live happily ever after? Theres some social conditioning right there.

If you feel this way, go pop some sprogs and bring them up to be strong, humble adults. My daughter has no illusions about life. She is patient, wholesome, polite, intelligent, forgiving, understanding and humble. 12 years old, no cell phone, no cable, no organized sports, no name brand clothes, no make-up, no pressure. She has hobbies that she is dedicated to, respect for her elders and aspirations for herself that don't involve men or money.

Hopefully, all the men and women on here who feel they have been given the short end of the stick in regards to family and relationships get off their collective bottoms and make a change in this world. Your children don't have to be social pariahs because they don't live like all the other kids, my daughter happens to have a really nice group of friends who are similar to her in many ways. Not all men are a-holes, not all chicks are Ho's and the next generation doesn't have to be a brainwashed, recycled collective of everything that is wrong with this world.

Between the middle class suburbanites and the uneducated, brain dead, TV zombies pumping out babies left and right we need to create some kind of balance. Have lots and lots of beautiful children.....Love them, teach them, cherish them.
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don't worry... peer pressure will change her... just like it does foreign woman when they've been here for a while. Call me a pessimist... but I gave up on females a long time ago.
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Of course I'm afraid that peer pressure will change her, though it hasn't yet and I believe she will be a wholesome adult woman. I don't know if you've seen what a 12 year old is these days though. I have been working at this for 12 years. Morality is instilled into her. I am sure through her tumultuous teenage years there will be rough times, but nothing is going to change the fundamentals given to her throughout her childhood years.

Most adults are flabberghasted by her personality. She won't become one of "those women" because it isn't attractive to her and it's not attractive to her father.

Enough bragging about my daughter though! I have faith in humanity yet. I have faith in my child raising and faith in my daughter.
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No false rape allegations are a terrible thing. I have no sympathy for someone who would do that and all my sympathy in that case would be with the accused, the actual victim. But you are brushing over the lives and suffering of actual rape vicyims by inflating the allegations to be so much more than an actual attack. Many rapists are never caught and in msny places on earth nobody even cares to.

Bringing up rape in africa? Really? Id still rather be a msn in america or india than a woman in africa, I dont even feel like talking about what the lives of women in much of africa is like.
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i am not brushing over actual rapes.that is how feminists argue.i say actual rape is bad but false rape allegations are worst
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From what I've seen, most of that raping is being done by the "alpha" jock males the skanks gravitate towards. so stfu about rape nothing to do with this thread.
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Of course I'm afraid that peer pressure will change her, though it hasn't yet and I believe she will be a wholesome adult woman. I don't know if you've seen what a 12 year old is these days though. I have been working at this for 12 years. Morality is instilled into her. I am sure through her tumultuous teenage years there will be rough times, but nothing is going to change the fundamentals given to her throughout her childhood years.

Most adults are flabberghasted by her personality. She won't become one of "those women" because it isn't attractive to her and it's not attractive to her father.

Enough bragging about my daughter though! I have faith in humanity yet. I have faith in my child raising and faith in my daughter.
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let me guess... no daddy.
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Of course I'm afraid that peer pressure will change her, though it hasn't yet and I believe she will be a wholesome adult woman. I don't know if you've seen what a 12 year old is these days though. I have been working at this for 12 years. Morality is instilled into her. I am sure through her tumultuous teenage years there will be rough times, but nothing is going to change the fundamentals given to her throughout her childhood years.

Most adults are flabberghasted by her personality. She won't become one of "those women" because it isn't attractive to her and it's not attractive to her father.

Enough bragging about my daughter though! I have faith in humanity yet. I have faith in my child raising and faith in my daughter.
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let me guess... no daddy.
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No. If you read my previous posts. I am with him for 13 years. Not married though.....Incidently. We are the product of divorced parents but realize that we don't have to live thier lives. Male role models are very important for young girls.
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Ah, the destruction and dying-out (no children) of Western Christian civilization is right on track. How perfect. The men who hate women, and the women who hate men. And no children.
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Well I am not a man. I am a female in my late 20's. Today is my birthday, I am 28.
I do not want to marry. I agree with many things you have to say in your post.

Most of all? I dislike feminist.
Why? Because they have a certain level of disdain for people like me - the unwanted child.
They think people like me are better off dead.
My mother is one of them.
I am lucky enough to be alive and I say I am better off alive, even after all that I have been through.

“Dude, it’s like my soul has a cancerous tumor or something. The more I realize that he wasn’t there and I don’t know who I am the more it grows.”

One common refrain I heard from friends, and uttered myself as a latchkey kid, was this: “I live in a house, not a home.”

That brought a tear to my eye. That is me. I have never met my father and I do not even know his name. As far as I know he has never tried to contact me.
I found out by being a snoopy 15 year old. I found my birth certificate and was really shocked when there was not one word of information in the father section. I was also surprised that my mother was 15 when she had me. I asked my mother and she told me that my father did not want me, denied that I exist and that was the end of that. She had to drop out of school - because of me - and her life was ruined.
Although I doubt that is the full truth.
My mothers feeling for me are summed up in her own words, "I wish you were not born." I have heard that many times in my life. She has also told me to never have children because she does not want to be a grandmother.
I did not have many mornings of breakfasts either because my mother does not like breakfast.
I have many stories. I am no angel though.
I have had ex boyfriends - and I have had a lot of them - tell me I have "daddy issues".
Well, I disagree. I have more "mommy issues" than I do "daddy issues".
I am just happy that I can find the truth on my own.
The truth is the word "woman" and "mother" has become more and more an entitlement label.
And they think their children are their body that they can do with as they wish. Like the time my mother made me smoke a pack of cigarettes one day when I picked one up out of an ash tray. Now I smoke nearly a pack a day. Yeah I've been smoking since I was 7-8.
I was surprised one day last year when a woman was guilty of child abuse for this very action. Then it really sank in.

My boyfriend works with a young woman who said to him one day when he tried to help her "I am sexist, I do not take help from men."
He told me about it, he is a nice guy and tries to help people. I said so do not help her. But he wants to help anybody when he can. I work there too and I do not even acknowledge her existence.
My mothers bitterness and my fathers denial. LOL

Anyway, I am 28 today. I have often wondered why I am alive. I have come to the idea that if it were not for my mother's families religious beliefs and the law of our country back then, I would not be alive.
Three things feminist despise: religion, law, unwanted children.
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Everybody deserves to be loved and I hope you find that if you haven't already.

Remember to always treat those well who treat you well, since over the long run what goes around comes around. If you become a "user" or "liar" or "cheat" then those are the types who will be attacted to you and the cycle will become a never ending vortex that self reinforces itself until you are hard as nails, unbelievably cynical, and have a shell that not even a nuclear weapon could break through.

Let go of your past ... and embrace your new future!! Look for the goodness in people and you will eventually be rewarded many times over!!

hf
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Ah, the destruction and dying-out (no children) of Western Christian civilization is right on track. How perfect. The men who hate women, and the women who hate men. And no children.
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Rare is the man or woman who 'hates' all men or women.
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Really enjoyed reading this thread.


The way the world is today I have to agree, it is very difficult to filter out the 'worthy' people to consider as friends, let alone marriage material.

Propganda on both sexes has destroyed the old sentiment of romance and a long happy marriage. So much truth has already been said about feminism's effect on society and its destructive agenda.

From my observations of many of the girlfriends that I have that are single and still looking for mr right... well they slutted around in their 20s, got educated, built up their careers in their 30's had a few steady boyfriends, and then it hit them and they woke up one day and panicked.

So some of them married the first guy they could get to the alter, pumped out 2 or 3 kids... realized working outside the home and raising kids was not was they thought it would be, (i.e its too much work), got hooked on Sex in the City, got addicted to the Bachelorette series, got addicted to Facebook, and proceeded to blame the husband for their unhappiness AFTER bringing 2 or 3 kids into the picture.

So now just about all my closest friends are either divorced or in process of divorce. The kids ultimately suffer the most and both sides are financially ruined.

And for what? Because women couldn't put a career outside the home on the back burner while the kids are being raised?

It is my belief if you are going to have kids that you be ready(financially and mentally) to stay home and raise them. Why would anyone want all that stress of working so hard outside the home and raising the kids? How is dropping your kids off at daycare good for any family? I totally get that some families need the income, but having children is not a RIGHT. If you can't afford them, you should not be having them.

So that brings me to my next thought... Is it any wonder when the workplace is FLOODED with bitchy, hormonal, self-absorbed women, that the men can't land the good paying jobs, because woman will do tha same job, but for less money? So now we have gnerations of men being pushed out of good jobs that at one time could support a family because so many 'career' women are willing to work for less.

Talk about getting pimped and whored. You women that think you are all high & mighty with your corporate types of jobs or your greed for the never ending material trappings all know deep down inside you want to be home in the garden and wearing sexy lingerie for when you man comes home. Anyone woman that tells you she loves getting up at 5am, feeding the kids, shuffling off to daycare, driving in traffic, then dealing with the workplace bs is a liar.

You have all been played. And now there is no turning back. You can never leave your jobs, because your kids are in private schools, you have 2 luxury SUV payments, a mortgage you are always late paying and you HAVE to keep up with the Joneses. There is no way you will ever let your neighbors or your friends know how much you struggle in life or how you don't even have $10.00 in your Prada wallets.

Instead you've all slowly turned into butch looking lesbos with short hair and no feminity what so ever who resent their husbands because he didn't upgrade your 3 carat diamond last Christmas after the 3rd child was born.

And you play golf. WTF is wrong with women?

So here we are. Men and women no longer have any respect for each other because there are no definitions anymore about what makes us different. We all wanted equality and we all got it.

It used to be nice to be friends with the opposite sex. Now it is all about competition.

And lets not forget what porn has done to men. Oh sure they want to look at big tits and dirty sex acts and then they want a nice good girl to marry.... but there are enough threads already on this topic.

The world is definitely a fucked up place right now. I feel bad for people who are trying to find a mate. How can we trust either side, when men and women can't even be friends.

Here is the secret... when you fall in love in your 20's... GO FOR IT!!! Don't wait thinking something better will come along. It won't. The more both sides fuck around the more disease, etc. WHo the hell wants to marry someone who's had 100s of lovers? That is gross, just gross. Plus, everyone knows that when you are over 40 and single you are considered damaged goods, doesn't matter if you are male or female. And I don't necessarily think that, but that is the stigma of being single, never married when you are over 40... ESPECIALLY if you are a woman.

There are no true male/female friendships anymore. You don't see people working at being friends, just hookups for sex. I've always believed that friendship was the key to a potential marriage, and still do. but friendship takes work and sacrifice... and honesty.

oh yeah... and the other reason the world is so fucked up?

Most people barely know their own fathers...

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Well,

I am a woman who still has good ovaries and has no kids;

does not intend to have kids in this messed up world

I work at home; own business; support myself and I am married to a wonderful man for 10 years.

We get along great and love each other very much... I respect and love him and he respects and loves me


If my husband were to get sick ; I would take care of him in his illness

this is what a marriage can do for a person ...

Marriage is healthy if two people are themselves healthy and mature individuals
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some 7 years back,i was travelling in night.I was waiting for a connecting bus on depot and had conversion with a old man there.The man talked only about his departed wife.how good she was n how lonely it gets in old age.but those type of marriages are almost extinct now
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was in a grocery store the other day... there were tons of old people roming the aisles, each ALONE.

Never was I more saddened at the thought of growing old, but the thought of growing old alone.

Yeah, when you find someone you love, you hold on to them, and hold on tight, to me a long life on this rock is a scary one. Two are better than one.
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Its amazing, how all these women become sluts by themselves. Everytime a man and woman sleep together, that man just showed his loose morals too. Think about it. Two go in to sleep together, only one gets blamed. Its this hypocrisy that makes mens cries of slut invalid.

Men... are... behaving as bad or worse than women, right now, you only notice the women screwing you over because you are not dating the men. And be glad, the men are awful. Princesses? The Gods gift Kings with no responsibility are not so easy to deal with either, and they are the majority now.
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don't blame young men.they are products of feminist society.whatever society,century you may go,a women who have sex with multiple men will always be called slut.why? because pussy degrades with use,just like car.no way you can ignore it.used car is used car....
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I have to admit I agree. and I am a woman. If I was a guy, I would not marry a chic beyond a certain age unless I knew for sure she had not slept around.

women are just nasty, nasty, nasty. Some of them, anyway.
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Yep - for men marriage is the worst thing they can do. For women it's the best thing they can do as they can't lose.
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rigged game like casino.house never loses
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married men live longer. women who live with other women live longer. could it be that... women aren't the devil?
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The marriage certificate is a contract between the two parties getting married and the government. Anything you register to the government is a contract with them. The government shouldn't have anything to do with marriage and you don't need their permission to get married or feel forced to include them. Women can harvest resources through the contract of marriage using the government as a tool. In other words, not only has feminism destroyed marriage, so has the marriage certificate.

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Women want to be dominant. Men just wanna have fun. Cindy lauper wrote a famous song about this called " Men just wanna have fun".

-EAT
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holy cow, lots of reasons in there I am assuming.

my reason? because its another part of the system.

love doesnt need a legal document
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whether you marry or not,common law marriage is assumed if you stay with women longer than 6 months.BTW,there is nothing like love.every relationship with modern women involves money.
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A men.
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In this world, if you can take yourself that's enough in my book. Having children with several different men and needing assistance is more deserving or your condemnation than someone who takes care of herself without needing your assistance.

That being said, children ARE a blessing but let's not get so caught up in belief that you can't see the difference. It's really okay to be selfish as long as your not dragging someone else into it. Many mothers are selfish and really shouldn't have brought others into their miserable lives.
 Quoting: D'Light


It is not OK to be selfish. Selfishness is morally wrong. We are not here to simply live for ourselves. Selfishness is part of the satanic social engineering of the elite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


If her art were illustrations for children's bibles and she dedicated herself to this, would that be selfish in your opinion?
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Red herring. Her art is probably nonsense.

She's a selfish woman, living a meaningless life, hurting men and herself by having meaningless sex.
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lol It is interesting how people judge without knowing anything. Why wouldn't you ask me first what my art was about? Why wouldn't people ask me if my life was 'selfish', rather than going off half-cocked with knee-jerk judgement?

I work at an art studio for people with mental health issues. I also volunteer at another art studio that has a food bank, so there are no 'starving artists'. I am told several times a week that I am making a difference in people's lives. I don't do it to receive this praise, but to be of service.
I love kids and teach them art as well. I just have chosen not to have my own. I am lucky that I live where I do, and I have had the choice.
I am very community oriented. Part of the art that I do is to construct giant puppets to use in parades and community celebrations, which create communal culture.... as opposed to consuming corporate culture which is what tv shows and films are all about.
I already mentioned that I don't sleep around. I like having deep connections. I could get sex anytime I wanted, but I am picky. Again, I am lucky that I live where I do to have that choice.
I am thankful for the life that I lead. Are you? If not you might want to practice feeling grateful. Gratitude helps to connect with our spiritual natures.
I am very spiritual and want to be of service. My life has meaning for me. It is not for you nor anyone else to judge me, nor anyone else.
I don't judge men who don't want to marry. Men should not judge me for not wanting to marry either.
It is a better use of time to love yourself + your family/friends, show gratitude for what you have, give back to your community, and then mind your own business.
Remember: Judge not, lest ye be judged.

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