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Italian Court Says MMR VACCINE CAUSES AUTISM!!!

 
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Vaccine fraud is being exposed! Praise God!!

Liars will be held accountable for financial damages!!

There is some justice!!
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Vaccine fraud is being exposed! Praise God!!

Liars will be held accountable for financial damages!!

There is some justice!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2924495


Well that's great (/sarc), there won't be any vaccines developed and all the old diseases will come back with a vengeance.

Want to be crippled for life, hey don't bother with the polio vaccine, want to get TB, no problem. The flu, same thing.

Welcome to the new normal with leprosy, TB, Cholera, Typhoid, yellow fever, flu, plague and the host of super killers just waiting to get their hold again. Mother natures killers- ready for action!

Only problem is that idiots like you will be telling us that when they start hitting their straps and taking out chunks of the population that they were not some natural pestilence but, instead were some "bio engineered" (read some evil white guy in a lab somewhere) made it up to kill lots of "undesirables".
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If there is any "conspiracy" then it is from the people who want to reduce the human population. Getting people not to vaccinate their kids would be a good way to do it - and improve the gene pool.
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don't attack me here. i have an honest question. why would it affect some and not others who received the vaccine? is the problem only with certain manufacturing processes of the vaccine or is it just an individual reaction?
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Any drug has some people who have no problems with it. Some people who smoke pot get really nauseous & ill. And pot is one of the safest "drugs" out there. There are risks of complications with most drugs.

Except, apparently, vaccines. According to the US & British medical establishments, vaccines are so perfect and infallible they might as well be declared divine.
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i have an honest question. why would it affect some and not others who received the vaccine?

When glutathione is low measles virus can settle in brain. Tylenol lowers glutathione and too many vaccines lowers glutathione.

High dose Vitamin A, carnitine, whey protein should clear autism up.
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Vitamin A makes it worse. Vitamin D is much better. Not only that, it up-regulates gluathione which speeds up heavy metal removal from the body. Vitamin D is really a prohormone that your body converts into powerful steroid hormone called Calcitriol that acts as DNA repair and maintenance.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

Dr. Cannell from Vitamin D Council observed that the high dose vitamin A does not help at all plus it interferes with Vitamin D's function.

OKay... one asked why some people are affected and others not... it has much more to do with severe vitamin D deficiency. A study found that autistic kids and their mothers had very low vitamin D level compared to the ones without autism. I think autism starts in the womb of severe vitamin D deficient mother. Vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development (remember it is DNA regulator where it makes sure things are developed properly). Remember Sun Scare? It happened to mirror the rise of autism. I think vaccines only made the symptoms of autism much worse in kids when their vitamin D level got too low.
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Vitamin A does not make it worse.

You and your vitamin D. You don't even know why vitamin D goes low. It is because a virus is blocking it.

You are ignorant. Please do some research on vitamin D.
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Vaccine fraud is being exposed! Praise God!!

Liars will be held accountable for financial damages!!

There is some justice!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2924495


Vaccine fraud is being exposed! Praise God!!

Liars will be held accountable for financial damages!!

There is some justice!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2924495


Well that's great (/sarc), there won't be any vaccines developed and all the old diseases will come back with a vengeance.

Want to be crippled for life, hey don't bother with the polio vaccine, want to get TB, no problem. The flu, same thing.

Welcome to the new normal with leprosy, TB, Cholera, Typhoid, yellow fever, flu, plague and the host of super killers just waiting to get their hold again. Mother natures killers- ready for action!

Only problem is that idiots like you will be telling us that when they start hitting their straps and taking out chunks of the population that they were not some natural pestilence but, instead were some "bio engineered" (read some evil white guy in a lab somewhere) made it up to kill lots of "undesirables".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16153717


Believe it or not, some vaccines esp for the mild stuff are not needed if you take vitamin D at proper dosage which is much higher than what is currently recommended. It really works to prevent cold and flu. Same for TB, hepatitis and few others. Not sure about the worst ones though.
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Vitamin A does not make it worse.

You and your vitamin D. You don't even know why vitamin D goes low. It is because a virus is blocking it.

You are ignorant. Please do some research on vitamin D.
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You're really ignorant of your ignorance.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

There is it, dumbass. I provided a link unlike you.
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Thread: FACT: 1 IN 88 PEOPLE HAVE AUTISM....
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I suppose spagetti sauce is the cure
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stfu
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go fuck a donkey, moron
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Wakefield exonerated?!?!?!?
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Vaccines And Autism: The Secret That You Are Not Supposed To Know

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the number of children in the United States with autism has risen by 78 percent over the past decade. It is now estimated that 1 out of every 88 children in the United States has some form of autism disorder. By six months of age, most U.S. children have received about 18 inoculations containing 24 vaccines against nine diseases. Over the next two years or so, they will receive another nine shots containing 14 vaccines against 12 diseases. Cases of autism in the U.S. have now increased by over 2700 per cent since 1991, which is when vaccines for children doubled, and the number of immunizations is only increasing. Just one in 2,500 children were diagnosed with autism before 1991, whereas one in 91 children now have the disease, up from one in 150 just six years ago. How bad will autism have to get in America before we all finally admit the truth? read more [link to www.activistpost.com]
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Printing that out for the pediatrician ..
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My kids are not vaccinated and healthier than the children of the system.

We also eat real food and take food based supplements.
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Same here. Blessings to you, AC.
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thanks for answering my questions and not attacking me. much appreciated!

hf

hopefully this causes further NON governmental, reliable research and those who have been wronged can at least fight back and stop future complications and injuries.
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well well well

isn't THIS fucking interesting!
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don't attack me here. i have an honest question. why would it affect some and not others who received the vaccine? is the problem only with certain manufacturing processes of the vaccine or is it just an individual reaction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4494441


Any drug has some people who have no problems with it. Some people who smoke pot get really nauseous & ill. And pot is one of the safest "drugs" out there. There are risks of complications with most drugs.

Except, apparently, vaccines. According to the US & British medical establishments, vaccines are so perfect and infallible they might as well be declared divine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12917304


Oh please, you can call nearly anything a "drug" - including things your own body produces like DMT and insulin.

Pharmacologically vaccines are not really drugs. You do not take vaccines over and over, your body does not have significant measurable responses to vaccines, you do not become addicted to them, you cannot withdraw - they are not "drugs" in any real sense.

If vaccines caused autism like you seem to think then they'd have significant and measurable physiological effects in everyone. Do you know why? Because you are saying they are a poison that causes permanent damage to a person's brain in only few small doses. According to your belief system it would be safer to give cocaine to a baby once.

Poisons are not "they work on some people and not others." No, they work on nearly everyone, not a fraction of the population.

The "increase" in autism is simply because we diagnose it more or measure it "better." This is similar to how we can see more earthquakes and sunspots than they could 50 years ago - we have better detection equipment.

But no, that wouldn't be sexy enough for you, you idiots have to invent some conspiracy to immerse yourself in so you can believe you are part of a small and select group of "awake" people that are smart enough to see the horrible dangers of vaccines.

Give me a break you pretentious morons. You aren't that smart. You aren't smart at all.
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Even if this is true, three judges saying something doesn't make it true. Judges are some of the biggest and more arrogant idiots on the planet - that goes double for European judges.

Erin Brokovich's famous case went in her favor too. They bankrupted PG&E, raised elec prices for everyone else, and it was later shown that she was wrong.

It doesn't matter though. All you have to do is hope to find a few idiots in court you can persuade with idiocy and you'll get rich.

But whatever, don't let your kids get vaccinated. Hopefully they'll get something fatal because you are a moron and we'll get some human evolution going on in the direction of rationality instead of being stupid enough to believe dumb shit on the internet.
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FUCK YOU!!!

You need to do some research on vaccines, you fucking moron.

My kids are not vaccinated and healthier than the children of the system.

We also eat real food and take food based supplements.

Amish do NOT vaccinate, Amish children are NOT autistic, etc...

You are a slave to the system which you worship as your gawd. You believe your system/gawd would never harm you.

Either that, or you are a shill.
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don't attack me here. i have an honest question. why would it affect some and not others who received the vaccine? is the problem only with certain manufacturing processes of the vaccine or is it just an individual reaction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4494441


Any drug has some people who have no problems with it. Some people who smoke pot get really nauseous & ill. And pot is one of the safest "drugs" out there. There are risks of complications with most drugs.

Except, apparently, vaccines. According to the US & British medical establishments, vaccines are so perfect and infallible they might as well be declared divine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12917304


Oh please, you can call nearly anything a "drug" - including things your own body produces like DMT and insulin.

Pharmacologically vaccines are not really drugs. You do not take vaccines over and over, your body does not have significant measurable responses to vaccines, you do not become addicted to them, you cannot withdraw - they are not "drugs" in any real sense.

If vaccines caused autism like you seem to think then they'd have significant and measurable physiological effects in everyone. Do you know why? Because you are saying they are a poison that causes permanent damage to a person's brain in only few small doses. According to your belief system it would be safer to give cocaine to a baby once.

Poisons are not "they work on some people and not others." No, they work on nearly everyone, not a fraction of the population.

The "increase" in autism is simply because we diagnose it more or measure it "better." This is similar to how we can see more earthquakes and sunspots than they could 50 years ago - we have better detection equipment.

But no, that wouldn't be sexy enough for you, you idiots have to invent some conspiracy to immerse yourself in so you can believe you are part of a small and select group of "awake" people that are smart enough to see the horrible dangers of vaccines.

Give me a break you pretentious morons. You aren't that smart. You aren't smart at all.
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how are those shares doing, by the way?
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don't attack me here. i have an honest question. why would it affect some and not others who received the vaccine? is the problem only with certain manufacturing processes of the vaccine or is it just an individual reaction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4494441


Any drug has some people who have no problems with it. Some people who smoke pot get really nauseous & ill. And pot is one of the safest "drugs" out there. There are risks of complications with most drugs.

Except, apparently, vaccines. According to the US & British medical establishments, vaccines are so perfect and infallible they might as well be declared divine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12917304


Oh please, you can call nearly anything a "drug" - including things your own body produces like DMT and insulin.

Pharmacologically vaccines are not really drugs. You do not take vaccines over and over, your body does not have significant measurable responses to vaccines, you do not become addicted to them, you cannot withdraw - they are not "drugs" in any real sense.

If vaccines caused autism like you seem to think then they'd have significant and measurable physiological effects in everyone. Do you know why? Because you are saying they are a poison that causes permanent damage to a person's brain in only few small doses. According to your belief system it would be safer to give cocaine to a baby once.

Poisons are not "they work on some people and not others." No, they work on nearly everyone, not a fraction of the population.

The "increase" in autism is simply because we diagnose it more or measure it "better." This is similar to how we can see more earthquakes and sunspots than they could 50 years ago - we have better detection equipment.

But no, that wouldn't be sexy enough for you, you idiots have to invent some conspiracy to immerse yourself in so you can believe you are part of a small and select group of "awake" people that are smart enough to see the horrible dangers of vaccines.

Give me a break you pretentious morons. You aren't that smart. You aren't smart at all.
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In case you haven't noticed, obesity/autism/etc have gone up exponentially in the past 30 years.

Say Hi to the Tooth Fairy for me.
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Go Italy!
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I suppose spagetti sauce is the cure.
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You are retarted. You must have been double vaccinated.
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Some italian judge is gonna' be in hot water over this (or maybe concrete boots). They are not supposed to rat out the big pharma crooks.
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Monkeys Get Autism-like Reactions to MMR & Other Vaccines In University of Pittsburgh Vaccine Study
[link to vactruth.com]

For those keeping track data, ASD went from 1 in 5,000 in the 1990s to the recently acknowledged [March 2012] figures of 1 in 88 along with 1 in 6 children in the USA having developmental disabilities. These stats were generated for data in the years 2006 to 2008. [3] There’s a 4 to 6 year lag time. Could ASD be 1 in 50 by now at the rate it is escalating?, especially since there’s a heavier push on mandates for vaccinations. Lead investigator Laura Hewitson, PhD, probably dropped a bombshell when she and her colleagues completed a macaque monkey (primates) study of the very same vaccines given to children during 1994-1999, i.e., the Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine and several Thimerosal mercury-containing vaccines injected into children during that time frame when the autism spectrum disorder skyrocketed.

“Vaccine-exposed and saline-injected control infants [monkeys] underwent MRI and PET imaging at approximately 4 and 6 months of age, representing two specific timeframes within the vaccination schedule. …

“These results suggest that maturational changes in amygdala volume and the binding capacity of [11C]DPN in the amygdala was significantly altered in infant macaques receiving the vaccine schedule.” [1]

Read more at link above.
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Excellent! Great find, DGT :)

Now, as far as our country goes:

The U.S. judicial system disgusts me, with the blaitent ignorance & denial they have, regarding vaccine damage.

Did you know that Feb 22, 2011:

<snip>

[The U.S. Supreme Court reinforced the shield that protects drugmakers from lawsuits over vaccines, ruling against two parents who blame Pfizer Inc.’s Wyeth unit for their teen-age daughter’s seizure disorder.
The justices, voting 6-2, said a 1986 federal law preempts claims that a drugmaker should have sold a safer formulation of a vaccine. The law, designed to encourage vaccine production by limiting patient suits, channels most complaints into a company- financed no-fault system that offers limited but guaranteed payments for injuries shown to be caused by a product.]

[link to mobile.bloomberg.com]

Another article explaining this ruling:

<snip>

A 6-2 ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court today makes it tougher for parents who say their children were injured by vaccines to file lawsuits against drugmakers.

[link to www.pbs.org]

************

Supreme Court sided with Pharma once again...

U.S. Greed & politics over the safety of our children. Deplorable.
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Excellent! Great find, DGT :)

Now, as far as our country goes:

The U.S. judicial system disgusts me, with the blaitent ignorance & denial they have, regarding vaccine damage.

Did you know that:

<snip>

[The U.S. Supreme Court reinforced the shield that protects drugmakers from lawsuits over vaccines, ruling against two parents who blame Pfizer Inc.’s Wyeth unit for their teen-age daughter’s seizure disorder.
The justices, voting 6-2, said a 1986 federal law preempts claims that a drugmaker should have sold a safer formulation of a vaccine. The law, designed to encourage vaccine production by limiting patient suits, channels most complaints into a company- financed no-fault system that offers limited but guaranteed payments for injuries shown to be caused by a product.]

[link to mobile.bloomberg.com]

Another article explaining this ruling:

<snip>

A 6-2 ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court today makes it tougher for parents who say their children were injured by vaccines to file lawsuits against drugmakers.

[link to www.pbs.org]

************

Supreme Court sided with Pharma once again...

U.S. Greed & politics over the safety of our children. Deplorable.
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great post!

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"I think that the biological case against Thimerosal is so dramatically overwhelming anymore that only a very foolish or a very dishonest person with the credentials to understand this research would say that Thimerosal wasn’t most likely the cause of autism."--- Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small

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Even if this is true, three judges saying something doesn't make it true. Judges are some of the biggest and more arrogant idiots on the planet - that goes double for European judges.

Erin Brokovich's famous case went in her favor too. They bankrupted PG&E, raised elec prices for everyone else, and it was later shown that she was wrong.

It doesn't matter though. All you have to do is hope to find a few idiots in court you can persuade with idiocy and you'll get rich.

But whatever, don't let your kids get vaccinated. Hopefully they'll get something fatal because you are a moron and we'll get some human evolution going on in the direction of rationality instead of being stupid enough to believe dumb shit on the internet.
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lets hope you give your children this wonderful medication and you can monitor the effects for yourself.
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Vitamin A does not make it worse.

You and your vitamin D. You don't even know why vitamin D goes low. It is because a virus is blocking it.

You are ignorant. Please do some research on vitamin D.
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You're really ignorant of your ignorance.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

There is it, dumbass. I provided a link unlike you.

I see...

Dr. John Cannell of the Vitamin D Council has studied the link between autism and lower levels of sunlight.

The good Doctor is paid to push vitamin D you moron. I repeat do some research don't be a parrot.
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Vitamin A does not make it worse.

You and your vitamin D. You don't even know why vitamin D goes low. It is because a virus is blocking it.

You are ignorant. Please do some research on vitamin D.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16161662


You're really ignorant of your ignorance.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

There is it, dumbass. I provided a link unlike you.

I see...

Dr. John Cannell of the Vitamin D Council has studied the link between autism and lower levels of sunlight.

The good Doctor is paid to push vitamin D you moron. I repeat do some research don't be a parrot.
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My eczema goes away with Vitamin D.

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