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'SECRET DEAL' DISCOVERED BETWEEN OBAMA AND DRUG COMPANY LOBBYISTS

 
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Three years ago, President Obama cut a secret deal with pharmaceutical company lobbyists to secure the industry’s support for his national health care law. Despite Obama’s promises during his campaign to run a transparent administration, the deal has been shrouded in mystery ever since. But internal emails obtained by House Republicans now provide evidence that a deal was struck and GOP investigators are promising to release more details in the coming weeks.

“What the hell?” White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, who is now Obama’s campaign manager, complained to a lobbyist for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) in January 15, 2010 email. “This wasn’t part of our deal.”

This reference to “our deal” came two months before the final passage of Obamacare in an email with the subject line, “FW: TAUZIN EMAIL.” At the time, Billy Tauzin was president and CEO of PhRMA.

The email was uncovered as part of investigation into Obama’s closed-door health care negotiations launched by the House Energy and Commerce committee’s oversight panel.

“In the coming weeks the Committee intends to show what the White House agreed to do as part of its deal with the pharmaceutical industry and how the full details of this agreement were kept from both the public and the House of Representatives,” the committee’s Republican members wrote in a memo today.

[link to campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com]

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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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Internal Emails Reveal Top Administration Officials Were Behind Deal with Pharmaceutical Industry


Today, a staff memo distributed to Republican members of the committee provided further information regarding the development of the “deal,” and the parties involved in negotiating specific policy outcomes to secure support for the legislation. Based on email exchanges and other primary source material, it appears the deal was reached not solely between PhRMA and the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, but that top personnel in the White House were involved in negotiating and approving this deal. The committee’s investigation determined that the White House, specifically Office of Health Reform Director Nancy Ann DeParle, Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, and Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, actively engaged in these negotiations while the role of Congress was limited. Their involvement in these previously undisclosed negotiations is particularly noteworthy since it contradicts the president’s promises of transparency.

While news reports speculated on the details of the “deal,” the White House has been vague and contradictory about the specifics beyond the $80 billion threshold. In the coming weeks, the committee will show what the White House agreed to do as part of its deal with the pharmaceutical industry, and how the full details of this agreement were kept from both the public and the House of Representatives.

[link to energycommerce.house.gov]
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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My only thought is "What the hell are they waiting for?"
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My only thought is "What the hell are they waiting for?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


For this ridiculous Gay President bullshit to fade away
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bumpitybumpity
bumpitybumpity

obama doesn't know the meaning of "transparency." What we don't know about him could fill a set of online encylcopedias.
886
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HOWARD DEAN: Benghazi is a laughable joke. (ARRRRRRRRRRRRR)
HELLARY: What difference does it make?
CARNEY: Benghazi happened a long
time ago.
CONGRESSMAN CUMMINGS: Death is a part of life.
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My only thought is "What the hell are they waiting for?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


For this ridiculous Gay President bullshit to fade away
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16179136


So hopefully sheeple will pay attention.

damned2zombieskoolaidsheepsheepsheepstoner
886
NSC SPOKESMAN: Dude, This Was Like Two Years Ago.
HOWARD DEAN: Benghazi is a laughable joke. (ARRRRRRRRRRRRR)
HELLARY: What difference does it make?
CARNEY: Benghazi happened a long
time ago.
CONGRESSMAN CUMMINGS: Death is a part of life.
______________

As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837)

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson

Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington


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Internal Emails Reveal Top Administration Officials Were Behind Deal with Pharmaceutical Industry


Today, a staff memo distributed to Republican members of the committee provided further information regarding the development of the “deal,” and the parties involved in negotiating specific policy outcomes to secure support for the legislation. Based on email exchanges and other primary source material, it appears the deal was reached not solely between PhRMA and the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, but that top personnel in the White House were involved in negotiating and approving this deal. The committee’s investigation determined that the White House, specifically Office of Health Reform Director Nancy Ann DeParle, Deputy Chief of Staff Jim Messina, and Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, actively engaged in these negotiations while the role of Congress was limited. Their involvement in these previously undisclosed negotiations is particularly noteworthy since it contradicts the president’s promises of transparency.

While news reports speculated on the details of the “deal,” the White House has been vague and contradictory about the specifics beyond the $80 billion threshold. In the coming weeks, the committee will show what the White House agreed to do as part of its deal with the pharmaceutical industry, and how the full details of this agreement were kept from both the public and the House of Representatives.

[link to energycommerce.house.gov]
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


it keep on gettin' better doesn't it guys.....screwed is the word....
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Mmmmm, Mmmmmm, Mmmmm!
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Well, the fact that there were deals was obvious. You can't shepherd a large overhaul or legislative package through without getting important stakeholders on board. Especially now, since corporate American pretty much pulls all the strings in Congress and packs federal regulatory agencies with their insiders.

It's pretty obvious that the two biggest stakeholders in Obamacare were:

Pharmaceutical companies (drug coverage is upped, also certain drugs are preventive with no co-pay which means the risk pool eats the charge and this will lead to greater use of preventive drugs, and also the Obama Administration is cracking down on imported drugs/Internet drug orders, and is otherwise supporting pharmaceutical companies in their price gouging tactics in the U.S.)

Health insurance industry Health insurance purchase mandate increases their market penetration. Also, baked into the package is a hefty profit guarantee (they are allowed to surcharge a fixed percentage of the cost of care, but with no upper limit on the cost of care, so they have every incentive to continue escalating health care costs since that will increase the value of their 15%)

There are obviously others. Obama had to get doctors and nurses on his side, which he largely did, as well as all the medical associations.
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Nice post, as usual S.G

cheers
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My only thought is "What the hell are they waiting for?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


For this ridiculous Gay President bullshit to fade away
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16179136


But wouldn't spilling the beans make the ridiculous gay president go away faster?
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being a criminal is a job requirement for being a modern day POTUS hence Ron Paul will never be President.
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Holy Shit

This should be perma pinned


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Lol, ya'll slaves to a mafioso government.
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My only thought is "What the hell are they waiting for?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


Hopefully to nail the coffin shut on the worst presidency in the history of the United States.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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5 up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2650557


bumpitybumpity
bumpitybumpity

obama doesn't know the meaning of "transparency." What we don't know about him could fill a set of online encylcopedias.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Holy Shit

This should be perma pinned


ochangebelive
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Thanks!

Obama is about as transparent as my coffee.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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Nice post, as usual S.G

cheers
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Thanks, bud

cheers

Last Edited by Sleeping Giant on 05/16/2012 08:45 PM
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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Mmmmm, Mmmmmm, Mmmmm!
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!!!!! Wow Evil Twin is Back !!!!
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SCOTUS are you listening?

If any of you are on the fence about how to vote on the Obamacare case, I hope this will move you to rule it unconstitutional. You would be doing a good thing for the country to get rid of this corrupt legislation that will transform and strangle much of the free economy.
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Well, the fact that there were deals was obvious. You can't shepherd a large overhaul or legislative package through without getting important stakeholders on board. Especially now, since corporate American pretty much pulls all the strings in Congress and packs federal regulatory agencies with their insiders.

It's pretty obvious that the two biggest stakeholders in Obamacare were:

Pharmaceutical companies (drug coverage is upped, also certain drugs are preventive with no co-pay which means the risk pool eats the charge and this will lead to greater use of preventive drugs, and also the Obama Administration is cracking down on imported drugs/Internet drug orders, and is otherwise supporting pharmaceutical companies in their price gouging tactics in the U.S.)

Health insurance industry Health insurance purchase mandate increases their market penetration. Also, baked into the package is a hefty profit guarantee (they are allowed to surcharge a fixed percentage of the cost of care, but with no upper limit on the cost of care, so they have every incentive to continue escalating health care costs since that will increase the value of their 15%)

There are obviously others. Obama had to get doctors and nurses on his side, which he largely did, as well as all the medical associations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12917304


Yeah, we knew there was a deal. But, they intentionally kept the shady details away from congress, or anyone that would object.


“The investigation has determined that the White House, primarily through Office of Health Reform Director Nancy Ann DeParle and Messina, with involvement from Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, was actively engaged in these negotiations while the role of Congress was limited,” the committee members wrote. “For example, three days before the June 20 statement, the head of PhRMA promised Messina, ‘we will deliver a final yes to you by morning.’ Meanwhile, Ms. DeParle all but confirmed that half of the Legislative Branch was shut out in an email to a PhRMA representative: ‘I think we should have included the House in the discussions, but maybe we never would have gotten anywhere if we had.’”


[link to campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com]
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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HOLY SHIT! lol
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If you are discussing Big Pharma and deal with the Preident you HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT BUSH!Anything else pales in comparoson to the fact that he laid ruin to the medicare drug program to stuff the pockets of his buddies. Talk about secret deals you little fool, study, then come back and talk turkey.
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If you are discussing Big Pharma and deal with the Preident you HAVE TO BE TALKING ABOUT BUSH!Anything else pales in comparoson to the fact that he laid ruin to the medicare drug program to stuff the pockets of his buddies. Talk about secret deals you little fool, study, then come back and talk turkey.
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nosepick


Please do try to keep up. Obama is the president now.

turkey
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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The whole cancer chronic disease treatment is a scam. They created cancer and it's relative chronic disease to bilk America.

The whole medical systems needs to be over hauled.

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