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Jerry, I wish I knew...it is something that is felt inside...true I have heard the world is ending crap almost all of my life...it never fazed me...but this is something else...it started before all of this 2012 BS came about full force...this is just something I feel, my family feels...we know it's real.
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Well thats weird your family feels the same way but who knows I mean everyone has their own intuition and inner feelings maybe it could mean something big is about to happen with you and your family which it could be good thing that happens I guess you never know.
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That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
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Can I ask your location in the CONUS?
Perhaps you are in an area that will be destroyed soon, that is why all in your neighborhood are having the same feelings.

For instance, if you are in Florida, I consider this to be a sandbar, a peninsula into the ocean.
Not a safe place in a time of earth changes and prevalent sunamis.
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I am in N Texas...
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I have no geuss how you will fare there.
Too many Meskins for me. Texas is like an extended beach, large sunami may cross great distances of flat lands.
I'm not aware of any prophetic indicators that it would be a safety land though, during the coming earth changes.
Between the race fighting that would ensue, lack of water/rainfall, not very good for gardening, I don't want to be there.
Myself, I've chosen the Ozarks area of SW Missouri.
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I have no geuss how you will fare there.
Too many Meskins for me. Texas is like an extended beach, large sunami may cross great distances of flat lands.
I'm not aware of any prophetic indicators that it would be a safety land though, during the coming earth changes.
Between the race fighting that would ensue, lack of water/rainfall, not very good for gardening, I don't want to be there.
Myself, I've chosen the Ozarks area of SW Missouri.
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N TX is not that bad...a lot of trees, grass, good soil, and it does rain! lol
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I have no geuss how you will fare there.
Too many Meskins for me. Texas is like an extended beach, large sunami may cross great distances of flat lands.
I'm not aware of any prophetic indicators that it would be a safety land though, during the coming earth changes.
Between the race fighting that would ensue, lack of water/rainfall, not very good for gardening, I don't want to be there.
Myself, I've chosen the Ozarks area of SW Missouri.
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N TX is not that bad...a lot of trees, grass, good soil, and it does rain! lol
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they are preparing for zero point or when the magnetic field goes down

when that happens chaos will reign on earth for at least 3 months

then the dimensional shift/void will happen
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Not one of these shills have addressed the point where all 3 sky packages have the same section of stars blocked out.
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Well you know that BLOCKED-OUT area in Google Sky & MS WW telescope with the coordinates of: 5h 53m 41s,-6 00 58
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Here you go, the blocked-out area, direct from the primary source. Incidentally, the palomar sky survey is decades old, it was around long before google sky. In fact, I used to use it back in college before I even started "googling."
[link to archive.stsci.edu]
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This could have been a really good thread, instead this thread is an embarrassment to anyone who has an interest in astronomy.
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I had a good weekend, photographed the Lagoon and Trifid Nebulae, but I'm an embarrassment to anyone who has an interest in astronomy?
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No, that would be you, lying coward. Maybe when you learn how to take photos like that you can claim to be as interested in astronomy as me.
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They are getting ready for a great disaster that they do not completely know when or how. It could be a few years from now or sooner...they are covering all their bases. Wouldn't you?

We will make it through this(whatever it may be) no matter what.
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This is an interesting point, when have we ever seen the governments of the world, "cover their bases" at all, much less at the same time?

The governments don't really give a rats ass about the little guy, so them making underground bases and shelters en-mass is a pretty big red flag.

Preparing for a major kill shot from our Sun.

The Day the Earth Stood Still. Great movie.
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They would need the bunkers be 2 miles deep at least, and the surface would burn up of oxygen. So no leaving the caves ever. I can't see them creating enough oxygen to keep the "elites" alive when they skill set of the elites is close to zero. (Being able to manage a hedge fund wont be very handy after a cataclysmic event.)

shill
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shill
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


shill
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


(shill text removed since it was pointless)

Even the shills are working overtime to debunk anything that might suggest that a world wide cooperation between government preparing for some event is just prudent planning.

Shill agreeing with Shill
 Quoting: Astromut


Shill agreeing with Shill
 Quoting: Astromut


Shill agreeing with Shill
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It seems we only selectively read history, and then start running people off who question our perceived bit of authority... sad sad little shills. The successes they claim are when people rage quit the threads, both of these shills have contributed nothing to this thread except that planet X doesn't exist, even though many official sources claim a planet of size is out there.

Not one of these shills have addressed the point where all 3 sky packages have the same section of stars blocked out. All in different sizes and shapes. But from page 9 to page 15 was entirely a shill fest.

That in itself should tell you something. Much of what the OP posted is very astute and should be discussed. Far better to just spew insults.

This could have been a really good thread, instead this thread is an embarrassment to anyone who has an interest in astronomy.
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The title of this thread should raise an alarm.

I don't think there's an astronomer on the planet that believes in any such Nibiru. If you came here to talk about Nibiru with astronomers, then you are deluded. You won't find any astronomer with the patience required to explain to you that there is no such animal as nibiru nicely.

Keep posting like that and I assure you that your curiosity will be rewarded with a violation of your integrity.

Other than that, enjoy yourself bro.
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They are getting ready for a great disaster that they do not completely know when or how. It could be a few years from now or sooner...they are covering all their bases. Wouldn't you?

We will make it through this(whatever it may be) no matter what.
 Quoting: DoubleHelix


This is an interesting point, when have we ever seen the governments of the world, "cover their bases" at all, much less at the same time?

The governments don't really give a rats ass about the little guy, so them making underground bases and shelters en-mass is a pretty big red flag.

Preparing for a major kill shot from our Sun.

The Day the Earth Stood Still. Great movie.
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They would need the bunkers be 2 miles deep at least, and the surface would burn up of oxygen. So no leaving the caves ever. I can't see them creating enough oxygen to keep the "elites" alive when they skill set of the elites is close to zero. (Being able to manage a hedge fund wont be very handy after a cataclysmic event.)

shill
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shill
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


shill
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


(shill text removed since it was pointless)

Even the shills are working overtime to debunk anything that might suggest that a world wide cooperation between government preparing for some event is just prudent planning.

Shill agreeing with Shill
 Quoting: Astromut


Shill agreeing with Shill
 Quoting: Astromut


Shill agreeing with Shill
 Quoting: Astromut


It seems we only selectively read history, and then start running people off who question our perceived bit of authority... sad sad little shills. The successes they claim are when people rage quit the threads, both of these shills have contributed nothing to this thread except that planet X doesn't exist, even though many official sources claim a planet of size is out there.

Not one of these shills have addressed the point where all 3 sky packages have the same section of stars blocked out. All in different sizes and shapes. But from page 9 to page 15 was entirely a shill fest.

That in itself should tell you something. Much of what the OP posted is very astute and should be discussed. Far better to just spew insults.

This could have been a really good thread, instead this thread is an embarrassment to anyone who has an interest in astronomy.
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The title of this thread should raise an alarm.

I don't think there's an astronomer on the planet that believes in any such Nibiru. If you came here to talk about Nibiru with astronomers, then you are deluded. You won't find any astronomer with the patience required to explain to you that there is no such animal as nibiru nicely.

Keep posting like that and I assure you that your curiosity will be rewarded with a violation of your integrity.

Other than that, enjoy yourself bro.
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most of the info coming from astronomers on glp only have earth based telescopes that cant see shit anyway. So thier opinion means nothing
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most of the info coming from astronomers on glp only have earth based telescopes that cant see shit anyway.
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"Can't see shit" huh?
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most of the info coming from astronomers on glp only have earth based telescopes that cant see shit anyway.
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"Can't see shit" huh?
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Space...the universe really does have beautiful colors! That's awsome!
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And once again you prove that you don't know what the hell you're talking about when you cite Gomes.
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LOL! Wow, just wow. Yeah, that makes you an expert on bullshit alright.
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if a 6000 years old civilization is bullshit for you then you're something.
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No, just Sitchin.
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So how can you say for sure sitchin has mistranslated summerian texts? can you decode them by yourself?because that what he says sounds like fairy tales? what's so fancy about some beings that traveled to other planets and made genetic modifications? humans went to the moon and made genetic modifications too.
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[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

Try this genius ... He does not even realize the language he is translating from some of the times . Conflating Aramaic with Hebrew . This site is full of numerous examples of Sitchins shoddy work . Oh and btw there is a Sumerian dictionary online any one can use , you can check the translations yourself
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most of the info coming from astronomers on glp only have earth based telescopes that cant see shit anyway.
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"Can't see shit" huh?
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Space...the universe really does have beautiful colors! That's awsome!
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I'm particularly happy about how my latest image came out night before last:
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most of the info coming from astronomers on glp only have earth based telescopes that cant see shit anyway.
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"Can't see shit" huh?
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Space...the universe really does have beautiful colors! That's awsome!
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I'm particularly happy about how my latest image came out night before last:
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Wow...hey if I give you the name of a star/planet could you take a pic of it?
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"Can't see shit" huh?
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Space...the universe really does have beautiful colors! That's awsome!
 Quoting: settle4it


I'm particularly happy about how my latest image came out night before last:
[link to farm8.staticflickr.com]
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Wow...hey if I give you the name of a star/planet could you take a pic of it?
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Depends. If you give me a star "named" after someone I'm afraid I can't without more info; those aren't official names and astronomers don't actually use them.
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Space...the universe really does have beautiful colors! That's awsome!
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I'm particularly happy about how my latest image came out night before last:
[link to farm8.staticflickr.com]
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Wow...hey if I give you the name of a star/planet could you take a pic of it?
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Depends. If you give me a star "named" after someone I'm afraid I can't without more info; those aren't official names and astronomers don't actually use them.
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Of that I am not sure...it is called ALDEBARAN...I think it's a sun...near or in Tarus...?
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I'm particularly happy about how my latest image came out night before last:
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Wow...hey if I give you the name of a star/planet could you take a pic of it?
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Depends. If you give me a star "named" after someone I'm afraid I can't without more info; those aren't official names and astronomers don't actually use them.
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Of that I am not sure...it is called ALDEBARAN...I think it's a sun...near or in Tarus...?
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Oh ok, nevermind then, that is an official name (I was talking about those scam star naming companies like "international star registry") and it's a star I observe quite often in fact. It's one that I frequently use for alignment purposes. I can't see it right now though; it's right next to the sun.
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Wow...hey if I give you the name of a star/planet could you take a pic of it?
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Depends. If you give me a star "named" after someone I'm afraid I can't without more info; those aren't official names and astronomers don't actually use them.
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Of that I am not sure...it is called ALDEBARAN...I think it's a sun...near or in Tarus...?
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Oh ok, nevermind then, that is an official name (I was talking about those scam star naming companies like "international star registry") and it's a star I observe quite often in fact. It's one that I frequently use for alignment purposes. I can't see it right now though; it's right next to the sun.
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Really? Wow...my interest is from my grandfather...he really liked that star.
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death of the dollar thanks to BRICS (well actually thanks to our stupid ass banks/government). you dont see brazil or india setting up fema camps to imprison their citizens...
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yeah but some countries are building underground bunkers like in Russia, Denmark, Norway
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OP, I agree with you. I have vacillated from NWO takeover and population control to cosmic cataclysm. The preparations for cosmic cataclysm is winning. I even believe that 911 was perpetrated as a cover to allow for the consolidation of power world and country wide and symbolically the beginning of the final preparations(i.e.-DHS, billions of Fed. $ to state & local police forces, etc.) and the continuity of government started during Reagan, increase in the Nat. Security State we are now living in. HARRP and the chemtrails may be an attempt to lessen the weather effects caused by the Sun, Fluff Cloud or Nibiru, whichever you prefer. There is much info. to believe this has all happened before

The financial situation is unbelievable and unsustainable yet they are desperately working to hold it all together. I do not believe these are stupid people, they know the longer they hold this together the worse it will be when it falls apart. However, why have a global financial collapse and generalized chaos just prior to a cosmic cataclysm that would make no sense.

You have done a great job of listing all the things that make no sense and point to a global cosmic cataclysm. There is no other logical conclusion one can come to. I feel a lot better when I look at it all this way and I believe it is the truth. Thanks for your hard work and sound logic.

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Ok lets do a quick contradiction proof .
lets make an assumption that Nibiru does exist and Sitchin got it right , it is on a 3600 year orbit . Then we will examine two possibilities , one for a mars sized planet , one for a gaseous planet . Using Keplers laws and high school algebra I will prove to you how untenable this in fact is .


Using Keplers laws I can prove to you that a planet on a 3600 year orbit fitting Nibiru's descriptions will be somewhere around 470 AU at minimum aphelion ( Pluto is in the range of 39.5 AU on average btw to give you some perspective )

Kepler's three laws of planetary motion can be described as follows:

The path of the planets about the sun is elliptical in shape, with the center of the sun being located at one focus. (The Law of Ellipses)
An imaginary line drawn from the center of the sun to the center of the planet will sweep out equal areas in equal intervals of time. (The Law of Equal Areas)
The ratio of the squares of the periods of any two planets is equal to the ratio of the cubes of their average distances from the sun. (The Law of Harmonies)


Ok we can assume this based on these laws

Since all planets orbit in ellipses with the Sun at one focus, Nibiru must go around the Sun, not just through the orbital paths of the planet as well as All planets sweep out equal areas in equal time intervals, so Nibiru must move very slowly at it's aphelion,
The square of the orbital period is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit. Since Nibiru's period is supposedly 3,600 years, we can use Kepler's third law to determine s quite a bit about it , simply solve for x

Kepler's thrid law can be shown as ' A cubed = P squared

a = semi-major axis in (AU) and p is the period, in earth years.

Using some high school Allegra we can find that if the closest point is 1 au the minimum furthest point is 469 au

where a is the length of the semi-major axis in astronomical units (AU) and p is the period, in years. Applying a little middle-school algebra to this, we get:


a=(p2)−−−√3
So, assuming that perihelion is at or near Earth's orbit since it is supposed to come close to us, the distance d from the sun at aphelion is going to be 2a−1 (

d=2((p2)−−−√3)−1
Substituting our period (3600 years) gives us:


D=468.784116

So we are looking at an object that goes from 467 AU to 1 AU in 3600 years , let us examine the absurdity of this scenario .

At 470 AU, the gravity of the sun is almost null for an object of this size ( be it mars or a gaseous planet) , almost non-existent in fact. So as a result, Nibiru must be traveling close to the Sun's escape velocity when it comes within 1 AU of it , this is a mathematical FACT .
This orbit is too unstable , it would be perturbed by every planet coming in , all the planets are locked in stable relationships or orbital resonance in some cases; Nibiru would have disturb this as well long ago .
With a long, elliptic orbit as we have proven must exist , even the slightest effect from the gravity of another object, even if that object is considerably smaller than Nibiru, would have a dramatic effect on Nibiru's orbit and ion all likelihood send it careening off to god knows what other solar system to cause mythical havoc .
Know let us look at its magnitude . Assuming the orbit we have know proven using Kepler's laws, we can attempt to find what Nibiru's magnitude would be at its various sizes

Using software and plugging Nibiru's orbital attributes in we can discern the following magnitudes .
If Nibiru where an Earth-sized equivalent on this type of orbit in 2010 ( assuming a 2012 flyby) it would have to be somewhere around 9.5 AU from earth and its magnitude would be 5.5 .
If it were 4 times the size of the Earth, it would be a magnitude 2.5, and if it were as big as Jupiter, it would be a 0.5, brighter than Saturn .
So we can now rule out any planet being here by 2012
Thank you and go back to being extremely ignorant
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Seems the algebraic notation did not translate , so either I will re-post the math , or you an do it yourselves
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Seems the algebraic notation did not translate , so either I will re-post the math , or you an do it yourselves
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Also excuse some typos was in a hurry did not have time to edit it
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Ok lets do a quick contradiction proof .
lets make an assumption that Nibiru does exist and Sitchin got it right , it is on a 3600 year orbit . Then we will examine two possibilities , one for a mars sized planet , one for a gaseous planet . Using Keplers laws and high school algebra I will prove to you how untenable this in fact is .


Using Keplers laws I can prove to you that a planet on a 3600 year orbit fitting Nibiru's descriptions will be somewhere around 470 AU at minimum aphelion ( Pluto is in the range of 39.5 AU on average btw to give you some perspective )

Kepler's three laws of planetary motion can be described as follows:

The path of the planets about the sun is elliptical in shape, with the center of the sun being located at one focus. (The Law of Ellipses)
An imaginary line drawn from the center of the sun to the center of the planet will sweep out equal areas in equal intervals of time. (The Law of Equal Areas)
The ratio of the squares of the periods of any two planets is equal to the ratio of the cubes of their average distances from the sun. (The Law of Harmonies)


Ok we can assume this based on these laws

Since all planets orbit in ellipses with the Sun at one focus, Nibiru must go around the Sun, not just through the orbital paths of the planet as well as All planets sweep out equal areas in equal time intervals, so Nibiru must move very slowly at it's aphelion,
The square of the orbital period is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit. Since Nibiru's period is supposedly 3,600 years, we can use Kepler's third law to determine s quite a bit about it , simply solve for x

Kepler's thrid law can be shown as ' A cubed = P squared

a = semi-major axis in (AU) and p is the period, in earth years.

Using some high school Allegra we can find that if the closest point is 1 au the minimum furthest point is 469 au

where a is the length of the semi-major axis in astronomical units (AU) and p is the period, in years. Applying a little middle-school algebra to this, we get:


a=(p2)−−−√3
So, assuming that perihelion is at or near Earth's orbit since it is supposed to come close to us, the distance d from the sun at aphelion is going to be 2a−1 (

d=2((p2)−−−√3)−1
Substituting our period (3600 years) gives us:


D=468.784116

So we are looking at an object that goes from 467 AU to 1 AU in 3600 years , let us examine the absurdity of this scenario .

At 470 AU, the gravity of the sun is almost null for an object of this size ( be it mars or a gaseous planet) , almost non-existent in fact. So as a result, Nibiru must be traveling close to the Sun's escape velocity when it comes within 1 AU of it , this is a mathematical FACT .
This orbit is too unstable , it would be perturbed by every planet coming in , all the planets are locked in stable relationships or orbital resonance in some cases; Nibiru would have disturb this as well long ago .
With a long, elliptic orbit as we have proven must exist , even the slightest effect from the gravity of another object, even if that object is considerably smaller than Nibiru, would have a dramatic effect on Nibiru's orbit and ion all likelihood send it careening off to god knows what other solar system to cause mythical havoc .
Know let us look at its magnitude . Assuming the orbit we have know proven using Kepler's laws, we can attempt to find what Nibiru's magnitude would be at its various sizes

Using software and plugging Nibiru's orbital attributes in we can discern the following magnitudes .
If Nibiru where an Earth-sized equivalent on this type of orbit in 2010 ( assuming a 2012 flyby) it would have to be somewhere around 9.5 AU from earth and its magnitude would be 5.5 .
If it were 4 times the size of the Earth, it would be a magnitude 2.5, and if it were as big as Jupiter, it would be a 0.5, brighter than Saturn .
So we can now rule out any planet being here by 2012
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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.
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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.


I understand that feeling...have had it for two yrs now...it gets stronger every day! And in ALL honesty...I DON"T think nibiru is coming...what's/Who's coming is bigger than that!
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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.


I understand that feeling...have had it for two yrs now...it gets stronger every day! And in ALL honesty...I DON"T think nibiru is coming...what's/Who's coming is bigger than that!


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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

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I like that! Well Said!!
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The police now have radiation detectors as part of the equipment on their cars. Supposedly these are for detecting radiation that others have a mind to dump or illegally move. A guy had tests and was radioactive enough to be told to stay away from his child for 10 hours. On the way home he gets pulled over for radioactive car. I think when our radiation levels get high enough we will be taken away. Umm hmm
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radiation from what? like a nuclear bomb?
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Fukishema is a good start
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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

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I like that! Well Said!!
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I know the world is not a perfect place nor is our government. Over the last 6 yrs. from investigating 911 and 2012 I went through a roller coaster ride of emotions. You might say it was a cleansing of my emotions. I realized I had felt like a victim a large part of my life. I had a lot of anger and mixed up emotions that I fortunately dealt with and I feel a lot better now. The NWO stuff and 911 really got me going.

The point I am trying to make is perhaps this time period we are going through is perfect time to cleanse ourselves for what may be coming. I am no longer as angry at our government and others because I believe they my be doing all this for reasons we are not privy to and covering it with the NWO, illuminati stuff. Like I said before I believe 911 could have been perpetrated as a cover for preparation of the National Security State and continuity of government. I am not saying it was right I am saying the military makes these decisions all the time. i am glad I am not them.

I really feel there is something much bigger going on here than any of us know and we sure don't have the entire picture. Peace and forgiveness.
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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

rant
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I like that! Well Said!!
 Quoting: settle4it


I know the world is not a perfect place nor is our government. Over the last 6 yrs. from investigating 911 and 2012 I went through a roller coaster ride of emotions. You might say it was a cleansing of my emotions. I realized I had felt like a victim a large part of my life. I had a lot of anger and mixed up emotions that I fortunately dealt with and I feel a lot better now. The NWO stuff and 911 really got me going.

The point I am trying to make is perhaps this time period we are going through is perfect time to cleanse ourselves for what may be coming. I am no longer as angry at our government and others because I believe they my be doing all this for reasons we are not privy to and covering it with the NWO, illuminati stuff. Like I said before I believe 911 could have been perpetrated as a cover for preparation of the National Security State and continuity of government. I am not saying it was right I am saying the military makes these decisions all the time. i am glad I am not them.

I really feel there is something much bigger going on here than any of us know and we sure don't have the entire picture. Peace and forgiveness.
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That would be a hard bone to swallow...
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 Quoting: settle4it


It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.


I understand that feeling...have had it for two yrs now...it gets stronger every day! And in ALL honesty...I DON"T think nibiru is coming...what's/Who's coming is bigger than that!


That would be a hard bone to swallow.

I hear you but read the above and think about it what if an ELE is on the way(I think it is)and you wanted the human race to have a chance to continue. How would you do it w/o alarming the natives? I know some of us could handle the info. but perhaps a lot could not. May be they believe they are doing what is best. Believe me there has been no one here more outraged over what I thought was going on than me. But as time goes on and I continue to observe I started to change my thinking.

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