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Everyone on the earth can feel that SOMETHING/SOMEONE is coming! We know it...we sense it at our very core...the WHO/WHAT will be here soon enough! As for me and my family we are taking the extra steps to be together when TSHTF...When WHATEVER/WHOMEVER arrives I want to be with my children and grandchildren! Family...that's what's important!
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Can I ask you what or who? I mean sorry if I don't take it serious because people have been saying this for what 15 years or so and it hasn't happened so we will see but I wouldn't be disappointed if nothing happenes.
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951


Jerry, I wish I knew...it is something that is felt inside...true I have heard the world is ending crap almost all of my life...it never fazed me...but this is something else...it started before all of this 2012 BS came about full force...this is just something I feel, my family feels...we know it's real.
 Quoting: settle4it

Well thats weird your family feels the same way but who knows I mean everyone has their own intuition and inner feelings maybe it could mean something big is about to happen with you and your family which it could be good thing that happens I guess you never know.
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951


That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
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Can I ask you what or who? I mean sorry if I don't take it serious because people have been saying this for what 15 years or so and it hasn't happened so we will see but I wouldn't be disappointed if nothing happenes.
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Jerry, I wish I knew...it is something that is felt inside...true I have heard the world is ending crap almost all of my life...it never fazed me...but this is something else...it started before all of this 2012 BS came about full force...this is just something I feel, my family feels...we know it's real.
 Quoting: settle4it

Well thats weird your family feels the same way but who knows I mean everyone has their own intuition and inner feelings maybe it could mean something big is about to happen with you and your family which it could be good thing that happens I guess you never know.
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951


That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
 Quoting: settle4it

Man that's even weirder I guess we will see right
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Forget Nibiru.

They are readying the camps because you Americans will be at eachother's throats before the year's end. Thats what they are prepairing for.

Good luck!
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Why will they be at each others throats?
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I know Canadians are not much better (if at all) than Americans when it comes to education, but you still should know your neighbours a little better, don't you think?
If you need to ask such a stupid question I'm certainly not going to waste my time explaining this shit to you. Open your eyes and start reading about the world around you. Not everything revolves around timber and salmon, you ignorant fuck.
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You're awfully nasty to be pointing the finger at Americans or anybody else, for that matter.
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Jerry, I wish I knew...it is something that is felt inside...true I have heard the world is ending crap almost all of my life...it never fazed me...but this is something else...it started before all of this 2012 BS came about full force...this is just something I feel, my family feels...we know it's real.
 Quoting: settle4it

Well thats weird your family feels the same way but who knows I mean everyone has their own intuition and inner feelings maybe it could mean something big is about to happen with you and your family which it could be good thing that happens I guess you never know.
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951


That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
 Quoting: settle4it

Man that's even weirder I guess we will see right
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951



Yes, it seems that way. I hope that ALL humanity can make it past this, even those that take advantage of others for their own personal gain. Humanity has seemed to bounce back before after a world wide events almost ended everything...they shall do so again. I just hope a lot more wise to the fact that it's not a game of seeing who can have the most...but a life of everyone being equal...that's not a lot to hope for...is it?
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Well thats weird your family feels the same way but who knows I mean everyone has their own intuition and inner feelings maybe it could mean something big is about to happen with you and your family which it could be good thing that happens I guess you never know.
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951


That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
 Quoting: settle4it

Man that's even weirder I guess we will see right
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951



Yes, it seems that way. I hope that ALL humanity can make it past this, even those that take advantage of others for their own personal gain. Humanity has seemed to bounce back before after a world wide events almost ended everything...they shall do so again. I just hope a lot more wise to the fact that it's not a game of seeing who can have the most...but a life of everyone being equal...that's not a lot to hope for...is it?
 Quoting: settle4it


"Feelings" are fine. Feel away. I will not disagree with the idea that it "feels like" something big is happening. However, when you start claiming that there is a rogue planet in the solar system and cite as evidence that the Moon is "out of orbit" a bunch of knowledgeable people are going to call BS on it.
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That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
 Quoting: settle4it

Man that's even weirder I guess we will see right
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951



Yes, it seems that way. I hope that ALL humanity can make it past this, even those that take advantage of others for their own personal gain. Humanity has seemed to bounce back before after a world wide events almost ended everything...they shall do so again. I just hope a lot more wise to the fact that it's not a game of seeing who can have the most...but a life of everyone being equal...that's not a lot to hope for...is it?
 Quoting: settle4it


"Feelings" are fine. Feel away. I will not disagree with the idea that it "feels like" something big is happening. However, when you start claiming that there is a rogue planet in the solar system and cite as evidence that the Moon is "out of orbit" a bunch of knowledgeable people are going to call BS on it.
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


And that I agree with you on! Facts speak, a lot of nonsense videos and websites by mr/mrs so-n-so saying a big planet is coming means nothing. If thousands of sky watching back yard astronomy people start saying they see something...I will give a look and more of a thought to it.
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Man that's even weirder I guess we will see right
 Quoting: Jerry 12851951



Yes, it seems that way. I hope that ALL humanity can make it past this, even those that take advantage of others for their own personal gain. Humanity has seemed to bounce back before after a world wide events almost ended everything...they shall do so again. I just hope a lot more wise to the fact that it's not a game of seeing who can have the most...but a life of everyone being equal...that's not a lot to hope for...is it?
 Quoting: settle4it


"Feelings" are fine. Feel away. I will not disagree with the idea that it "feels like" something big is happening. However, when you start claiming that there is a rogue planet in the solar system and cite as evidence that the Moon is "out of orbit" a bunch of knowledgeable people are going to call BS on it.
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


And that I agree with you on! Facts speak, a lot of nonsense videos and websites by mr/mrs so-n-so saying a big planet is coming means nothing. If thousands of sky watching back yard astronomy people start saying they see something...I will give a look and more of a thought to it.
 Quoting: settle4it


But don't you know? All the astronomers are being "controlled" and are afraid to speak up! Or.. "You can only see it with special equipment!" Or... name a bunch of other lame excuses why it can't be seen. Heh...
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meh, the earth always does crazy shit.

The Powers That Be are going to put you all in cages and lock you down no matter what it takes. Prolly incite civil war or even post a FAKE civil war on CNN/INTERGANDA so they can lock you down when nothing actually happened.

You idiots need to read some Thomas Jefferson and do something terrible.
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Damn man, I went out...shopped...Did a couple of other things, came back to take a peek at you assholes and what do I see? Morons talking to themselves.

Fuckin morons

Ricochet
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[link to www.youtube.com]

This is happening.

LaViolette interview; [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Alxander Raven 1146318


thanks for these videos

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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[link to www.youtube.com]

This is happening.

LaViolette interview; [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Alxander Raven 1146318


thanks for these videos


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i didn't say the moon is off orbit, where are you getting that?
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You said it in your opening post. Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
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sorry i was quite tired, yes i remember, thanks

peace
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Yes Jack I'm aware of that paper. In fact you can't see the effect of a (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1 change in eccentricity at all, not even by telescope, only by long term monitoring using the apollo retroreflectors and laser measurement. Here's what it looks like:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Yeah, you can't see the difference in eccentricity at all in the shape of the orbit, it's orders of magnitude too small. The resulting physical difference in the position of the moon is measured in centimeters. You can't see that.

A perturbing planet was even specifically ruled out as a cause.
[link to arxiv.org]
The same author also published a paper establishing the limits of mass and distance of any hypothetical planet. The bottom line is that there is no massive planet anywhere near us, which is why a perturbing planet can be ruled out as a cause:
[link to arxiv.org]

The authors who actually made the discovery to begin with suggest it is not due to exogenous forces at all...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But again my point is that you said that in your opening post and then denied saying it.
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry about that, yes i posted that information, but i forgot, i think i am losing my memory

when the magnetic field goes to zero point, do we lose our minds,

I am losing mine already

peace
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i didn't say the moon is off orbit, where are you getting that?
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You said it in your opening post. Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
 Quoting: Astromut

C'mon, cut OP some slack; he's just a pathetic attention whore. Nothing unusual here.

putin
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come on Slovak, we are all searching for the truth and looking for knowledge

relax man, i have nobody to converse these topics with in my life because everyone is either

a, fuckin brainwashed and boring

b, ignorant and just want to buy shit

c, religious and just care about Jesus

d. just want to talk about weather, work and sports

so that's why i love this website so i can converse with other people with similar wisdom, knowledge and interest and spiritual journey

so whatever you say to me you say to yourself because we are all one

spread the peace love and compassion

it is going to get crazy soon
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i didn't say the moon is off orbit, where are you getting that?
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You said it in your opening post. Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry i was quite tired, yes i remember, thanks

peace
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So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?

Then you can move on to this one: "South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability"
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Yes Jack I'm aware of that paper. In fact you can't see the effect of a (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1 change in eccentricity at all, not even by telescope, only by long term monitoring using the apollo retroreflectors and laser measurement. Here's what it looks like:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Yeah, you can't see the difference in eccentricity at all in the shape of the orbit, it's orders of magnitude too small. The resulting physical difference in the position of the moon is measured in centimeters. You can't see that.

A perturbing planet was even specifically ruled out as a cause.
[link to arxiv.org]
The same author also published a paper establishing the limits of mass and distance of any hypothetical planet. The bottom line is that there is no massive planet anywhere near us, which is why a perturbing planet can be ruled out as a cause:
[link to arxiv.org]

The authors who actually made the discovery to begin with suggest it is not due to exogenous forces at all...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But again my point is that you said that in your opening post and then denied saying it.
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry about that, yes i posted that information, but i forgot, i think i am losing my memory

when the magnetic field goes to zero point, do we lose our minds,

I am losing mine already

peace
 Quoting: jacksprat


conspiracy
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to wipe out the underclass pissed off white trash redneck conservative?
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it is going to get crazy soon
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Heard that in 2002.
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i didn't say the moon is off orbit, where are you getting that?
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You said it in your opening post. Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry i was quite tired, yes i remember, thanks

peace
 Quoting: jacksprat


So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?

Then you can move on to this one: "South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability"
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


you can't deny that one
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Yes Jack I'm aware of that paper. In fact you can't see the effect of a (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1 change in eccentricity at all, not even by telescope, only by long term monitoring using the apollo retroreflectors and laser measurement. Here's what it looks like:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Yeah, you can't see the difference in eccentricity at all in the shape of the orbit, it's orders of magnitude too small. The resulting physical difference in the position of the moon is measured in centimeters. You can't see that.

A perturbing planet was even specifically ruled out as a cause.
[link to arxiv.org]
The same author also published a paper establishing the limits of mass and distance of any hypothetical planet. The bottom line is that there is no massive planet anywhere near us, which is why a perturbing planet can be ruled out as a cause:
[link to arxiv.org]

The authors who actually made the discovery to begin with suggest it is not due to exogenous forces at all...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But again my point is that you said that in your opening post and then denied saying it.
 Quoting: Astromut


sorry about that, yes i posted that information, but i forgot, i think i am losing my memory

when the magnetic field goes to zero point, do we lose our minds,

I am losing mine already

peace
 Quoting: jacksprat


conspiracy
 Quoting: Astromut


lol that's me
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5 star and pin requested.... This are some crazy and fucked up times we are living in. I would'nt miss this shit for anything!
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5 star and pin requested.... This are some crazy and fucked up times we are living in. I would'nt miss this shit for anything!
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it is going to get crazier my friend

peace to you

thanks
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You said it in your opening post. Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
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sorry i was quite tired, yes i remember, thanks

peace
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So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?

Then you can move on to this one: "South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability"
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you can't deny that one
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Umm you skipped something: So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?
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You said it in your opening post. Are you suffering from multiple personality disorder?
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sorry i was quite tired, yes i remember, thanks

peace
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So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?

Then you can move on to this one: "South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability"
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


you can't deny that one
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I want to chomp on that hard, but I'll let Menow finish...
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sorry i was quite tired, yes i remember, thanks

peace
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So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?

Then you can move on to this one: "South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability"
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


you can't deny that one
 Quoting: jacksprat


Umm you skipped something: So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


just google it, you ignorant fool, are you that lazy?

[link to www.science.org.au]

do your own research, it is obviously evident, have you been living in a cave for couple of years? wake up and stop shilling

[link to www.usatoday.com]

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

[link to www.ugr.es]
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Please excuse my first post if its a bit lame but I've been following GLP for a couple of years now and never really felt the need to comment before, but I've just got an itch to this time...

The OP's post in my personal opinion is clear and too the point. Somethings not right, and worsening by the day.

You can spend from now until D-day arguing the cause, and healthy debate does lead to an open mind, but in the end does it really matter? The cause to me is insignificant, its the effects that count and they are already plain to see. Be honest with yourselves, without the resources and technologies of organisations like NASA, a top job in NATO or the Pentagon, or access to the raw data produced by the worlds siezmology research centres and atmospheric monitoring satallites before it can be fiddled with, you will never be able to prove any of the varying theories out there to the point of certainty, no matter how well educated you are (or think you are). I have no doubt some of you guys are friggin genius's and have a pool of knowledge greater than 10 of us 'normal guys' put together, but how about you start using that knowledge to educating people as to actually dealing with the effects of such uncertain times, and if the OP's post is to be believed, and I think its a good, credible, and solid list, then now would be a good time to start pooling that knowledge into dealing with the problems we're all gonna face if this shite continues or gets worse... Lets face it, if a SHTF scenario is a likelyhood in the near future, whatever the cause, then the boffins employed by the jam-rags in government have already shown they won't be helping us to understand and overcome the situation, and we're REALLY gonna need some super-nerds on our side.

I would add that although the list provided by the OP is extensive, and numerous other points have been added by peeps throughout the post, the majority of the evidence is quite obviously circumstantial. However circumstantial evidence on its own is fairly useless, but when the sheer weight of such evidence is presented together and viewed as a whole, its power changes. We can sit picking at individual bits all day, and focus one one piece and tear that apart, but what baffles me is that so many people cannot get past the point of this "well this bit is shit because of X, Y and Z" and then running off with that point, completely writing off the whole claim on that one small piece. C'mon, even if 50% of the evidence pointing to the fact something 'big' is upon us is bollocks, the sheer weight of circumstatial evidence left is still overwelming...

We convict and sentance criminals on circumstatial evidence when there is sufficient to raise the bar to 'beyond all reasonable doubt', as very rarely do we have 'absolute proof' of a criminals guilt. When there is sufficient evidence to 'overlap', 'fill in the blanks' and 'tip the scales' enough in that direction then it is our right to say "I'm convinced". Its perfectly accepted as even circumstantial evidence is powerful in great enough quantities. So why on sujects such as this do we fight our own instincts and frantically try to disprove what appears clear? There could be many reasons for that, but you can make your own minds up I guess.

We face very uncertain, and potentially dangerous times in my mind, and I hope I havent offended anyone, or appeared 'preachy', that was not my intentions. I just have seen so may of these threads over the last couple of years turn from well presented, and well researched topics, into personal 'dick-measuring' contests between a few individuals that totally overshadows the original point, and detracts from its message.

Anyway, rant over, sorry if anyone fell asleep reading this. Take care guys.

Joe.
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sorry i was quite tired, yes i remember, thanks

peace
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So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?

Then you can move on to this one: "South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability"
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you can't deny that one
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I want to chomp on that hard, but I'll let Menow finish...
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Chomp away. You know that stuff better than do I.
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So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?

Then you can move on to this one: "South Pole Telescope built with infrared capability"
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


you can't deny that one
 Quoting: jacksprat


Umm you skipped something: So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that?
 Quoting: Menow 14092435


just google it, you ignorant fool, are you that lazy?

[link to www.science.org.au]

do your own research, it is obviously evident, have you been living in a cave for couple of years? wake up and stop shilling

[link to www.usatoday.com]

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

[link to www.ugr.es]
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No. My question is about this: "i didn't say the moon is off orbit, where are you getting that?" But you DID say that, right?

Now: So if you don't deny saying it, why don't you explain why you think that? Or did you just C&P a bunch of crap from somewhere else and not even read it?
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Please excuse my first post if its a bit lame but I've been following GLP for a couple of years now and never really felt the need to comment before, but I've just got an itch to this time...

The OP's post in my personal opinion is clear and too the point. Somethings not right, and worsening by the day.

You can spend from now until D-day arguing the cause, and healthy debate does lead to an open mind, but in the end does it really matter? The cause to me is insignificant, its the effects that count and they are already plain to see. Be honest with yourselves, without the resources and technologies of organisations like NASA, a top job in NATO or the Pentagon, or access to the raw data produced by the worlds siezmology research centres and atmospheric monitoring satallites before it can be fiddled with, you will never be able to prove any of the varying theories out there to the point of certainty, no matter how well educated you are (or think you are). I have no doubt some of you guys are friggin genius's and have a pool of knowledge greater than 10 of us 'normal guys' put together, but how about you start using that knowledge to educating people as to actually dealing with the effects of such uncertain times, and if the OP's post is to be believed, and I think its a good, credible, and solid list, then now would be a good time to start pooling that knowledge into dealing with the problems we're all gonna face if this shite continues or gets worse... Lets face it, if a SHTF scenario is a likelyhood in the near future, whatever the cause, then the boffins employed by the jam-rags in government have already shown they won't be helping us to understand and overcome the situation, and we're REALLY gonna need some super-nerds on our side.

I would add that although the list provided by the OP is extensive, and numerous other points have been added by peeps throughout the post, the majority of the evidence is quite obviously circumstantial. However circumstantial evidence on its own is fairly useless, but when the sheer weight of such evidence is presented together and viewed as a whole, its power changes. We can sit picking at individual bits all day, and focus one one piece and tear that apart, but what baffles me is that so many people cannot get past the point of this "well this bit is shit because of X, Y and Z" and then running off with that point, completely writing off the whole claim on that one small piece. C'mon, even if 50% of the evidence pointing to the fact something 'big' is upon us is bollocks, the sheer weight of circumstatial evidence left is still overwelming...

We convict and sentance criminals on circumstatial evidence when there is sufficient to raise the bar to 'beyond all reasonable doubt', as very rarely do we have 'absolute proof' of a criminals guilt. When there is sufficient evidence to 'overlap', 'fill in the blanks' and 'tip the scales' enough in that direction then it is our right to say "I'm convinced". Its perfectly accepted as even circumstantial evidence is powerful in great enough quantities. So why on sujects such as this do we fight our own instincts and frantically try to disprove what appears clear? There could be many reasons for that, but you can make your own minds up I guess.

We face very uncertain, and potentially dangerous times in my mind, and I hope I havent offended anyone, or appeared 'preachy', that was not my intentions. I just have seen so may of these threads over the last couple of years turn from well presented, and well researched topics, into personal 'dick-measuring' contests between a few individuals that totally overshadows the original point, and detracts from its message.

Anyway, rant over, sorry if anyone fell asleep reading this. Take care guys.

Joe.
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Heard all of that in 2002. Still waiting for the alleged "big event".
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Re: If Nibiru/planet x is not coming, then what is FEMA and the secret government preparing for
Thanks Joe rockon