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Ok lets do a quick contradiction proof .
lets make an assumption that Nibiru does exist and Sitchin got it right , it is on a 3600 year orbit . Then we will examine two possibilities , one for a mars sized planet , one for a gaseous planet . Using Keplers laws and high school algebra I will prove to you how untenable this in fact is .


Using Keplers laws I can prove to you that a planet on a 3600 year orbit fitting Nibiru's descriptions will be somewhere around 470 AU at minimum aphelion ( Pluto is in the range of 39.5 AU on average btw to give you some perspective )

Kepler's three laws of planetary motion can be described as follows:

The path of the planets about the sun is elliptical in shape, with the center of the sun being located at one focus. (The Law of Ellipses)
An imaginary line drawn from the center of the sun to the center of the planet will sweep out equal areas in equal intervals of time. (The Law of Equal Areas)
The ratio of the squares of the periods of any two planets is equal to the ratio of the cubes of their average distances from the sun. (The Law of Harmonies)


Ok we can assume this based on these laws

Since all planets orbit in ellipses with the Sun at one focus, Nibiru must go around the Sun, not just through the orbital paths of the planet as well as All planets sweep out equal areas in equal time intervals, so Nibiru must move very slowly at it's aphelion,
The square of the orbital period is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit. Since Nibiru's period is supposedly 3,600 years, we can use Kepler's third law to determine s quite a bit about it , simply solve for x

Kepler's thrid law can be shown as ' A cubed = P squared

a = semi-major axis in (AU) and p is the period, in earth years.

Using some high school Allegra we can find that if the closest point is 1 au the minimum furthest point is 469 au

where a is the length of the semi-major axis in astronomical units (AU) and p is the period, in years. Applying a little middle-school algebra to this, we get:


a=(p2)−−−√3
So, assuming that perihelion is at or near Earth's orbit since it is supposed to come close to us, the distance d from the sun at aphelion is going to be 2a−1 (

d=2((p2)−−−√3)−1
Substituting our period (3600 years) gives us:


D=468.784116

So we are looking at an object that goes from 467 AU to 1 AU in 3600 years , let us examine the absurdity of this scenario .

At 470 AU, the gravity of the sun is almost null for an object of this size ( be it mars or a gaseous planet) , almost non-existent in fact. So as a result, Nibiru must be traveling close to the Sun's escape velocity when it comes within 1 AU of it , this is a mathematical FACT .
This orbit is too unstable , it would be perturbed by every planet coming in , all the planets are locked in stable relationships or orbital resonance in some cases; Nibiru would have disturb this as well long ago .
With a long, elliptic orbit as we have proven must exist , even the slightest effect from the gravity of another object, even if that object is considerably smaller than Nibiru, would have a dramatic effect on Nibiru's orbit and ion all likelihood send it careening off to god knows what other solar system to cause mythical havoc .
Know let us look at its magnitude . Assuming the orbit we have know proven using Kepler's laws, we can attempt to find what Nibiru's magnitude would be at its various sizes

Using software and plugging Nibiru's orbital attributes in we can discern the following magnitudes .
If Nibiru where an Earth-sized equivalent on this type of orbit in 2010 ( assuming a 2012 flyby) it would have to be somewhere around 9.5 AU from earth and its magnitude would be 5.5 .
If it were 4 times the size of the Earth, it would be a magnitude 2.5, and if it were as big as Jupiter, it would be a 0.5, brighter than Saturn .
So we can now rule out any planet being here by 2012
Thank you and go back to being extremely ignorant
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Seems the algebraic notation did not translate , so either I will re-post the math , or you an do it yourselves
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Seems the algebraic notation did not translate , so either I will re-post the math , or you an do it yourselves
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Also excuse some typos was in a hurry did not have time to edit it
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Ok lets do a quick contradiction proof .
lets make an assumption that Nibiru does exist and Sitchin got it right , it is on a 3600 year orbit . Then we will examine two possibilities , one for a mars sized planet , one for a gaseous planet . Using Keplers laws and high school algebra I will prove to you how untenable this in fact is .


Using Keplers laws I can prove to you that a planet on a 3600 year orbit fitting Nibiru's descriptions will be somewhere around 470 AU at minimum aphelion ( Pluto is in the range of 39.5 AU on average btw to give you some perspective )

Kepler's three laws of planetary motion can be described as follows:

The path of the planets about the sun is elliptical in shape, with the center of the sun being located at one focus. (The Law of Ellipses)
An imaginary line drawn from the center of the sun to the center of the planet will sweep out equal areas in equal intervals of time. (The Law of Equal Areas)
The ratio of the squares of the periods of any two planets is equal to the ratio of the cubes of their average distances from the sun. (The Law of Harmonies)


Ok we can assume this based on these laws

Since all planets orbit in ellipses with the Sun at one focus, Nibiru must go around the Sun, not just through the orbital paths of the planet as well as All planets sweep out equal areas in equal time intervals, so Nibiru must move very slowly at it's aphelion,
The square of the orbital period is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit. Since Nibiru's period is supposedly 3,600 years, we can use Kepler's third law to determine s quite a bit about it , simply solve for x

Kepler's thrid law can be shown as ' A cubed = P squared

a = semi-major axis in (AU) and p is the period, in earth years.

Using some high school Allegra we can find that if the closest point is 1 au the minimum furthest point is 469 au

where a is the length of the semi-major axis in astronomical units (AU) and p is the period, in years. Applying a little middle-school algebra to this, we get:


a=(p2)−−−√3
So, assuming that perihelion is at or near Earth's orbit since it is supposed to come close to us, the distance d from the sun at aphelion is going to be 2a−1 (

d=2((p2)−−−√3)−1
Substituting our period (3600 years) gives us:


D=468.784116

So we are looking at an object that goes from 467 AU to 1 AU in 3600 years , let us examine the absurdity of this scenario .

At 470 AU, the gravity of the sun is almost null for an object of this size ( be it mars or a gaseous planet) , almost non-existent in fact. So as a result, Nibiru must be traveling close to the Sun's escape velocity when it comes within 1 AU of it , this is a mathematical FACT .
This orbit is too unstable , it would be perturbed by every planet coming in , all the planets are locked in stable relationships or orbital resonance in some cases; Nibiru would have disturb this as well long ago .
With a long, elliptic orbit as we have proven must exist , even the slightest effect from the gravity of another object, even if that object is considerably smaller than Nibiru, would have a dramatic effect on Nibiru's orbit and ion all likelihood send it careening off to god knows what other solar system to cause mythical havoc .
Know let us look at its magnitude . Assuming the orbit we have know proven using Kepler's laws, we can attempt to find what Nibiru's magnitude would be at its various sizes

Using software and plugging Nibiru's orbital attributes in we can discern the following magnitudes .
If Nibiru where an Earth-sized equivalent on this type of orbit in 2010 ( assuming a 2012 flyby) it would have to be somewhere around 9.5 AU from earth and its magnitude would be 5.5 .
If it were 4 times the size of the Earth, it would be a magnitude 2.5, and if it were as big as Jupiter, it would be a 0.5, brighter than Saturn .
So we can now rule out any planet being here by 2012
Thank you and go back to being extremely ignorant
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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.
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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.


I understand that feeling...have had it for two yrs now...it gets stronger every day! And in ALL honesty...I DON"T think nibiru is coming...what's/Who's coming is bigger than that!
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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.


I understand that feeling...have had it for two yrs now...it gets stronger every day! And in ALL honesty...I DON"T think nibiru is coming...what's/Who's coming is bigger than that!


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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

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I like that! Well Said!!
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The police now have radiation detectors as part of the equipment on their cars. Supposedly these are for detecting radiation that others have a mind to dump or illegally move. A guy had tests and was radioactive enough to be told to stay away from his child for 10 hours. On the way home he gets pulled over for radioactive car. I think when our radiation levels get high enough we will be taken away. Umm hmm
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radiation from what? like a nuclear bomb?
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Fukishema is a good start
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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

rant
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I like that! Well Said!!
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I know the world is not a perfect place nor is our government. Over the last 6 yrs. from investigating 911 and 2012 I went through a roller coaster ride of emotions. You might say it was a cleansing of my emotions. I realized I had felt like a victim a large part of my life. I had a lot of anger and mixed up emotions that I fortunately dealt with and I feel a lot better now. The NWO stuff and 911 really got me going.

The point I am trying to make is perhaps this time period we are going through is perfect time to cleanse ourselves for what may be coming. I am no longer as angry at our government and others because I believe they my be doing all this for reasons we are not privy to and covering it with the NWO, illuminati stuff. Like I said before I believe 911 could have been perpetrated as a cover for preparation of the National Security State and continuity of government. I am not saying it was right I am saying the military makes these decisions all the time. i am glad I am not them.

I really feel there is something much bigger going on here than any of us know and we sure don't have the entire picture. Peace and forgiveness.
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The way I see it, all of this is a little bit our fault. what with the bit of information we have, we can't do anything with because all the ones in power are the ones against us. But then again, that could be our fault to. THE PEOPLE are the one's that gives the government their power. I'd guesstimate those people probably make up 1% of the population, meaning there are way more of US then there are of THEM. We LET them enslave our minds, but everyone here seems somewhat in the know. Why are we all sitting here on an underground message board complaining and telling our stories to one another under anonymous aliases when we should be going door to door informing people. And then maybe, when you have enough people, demand your rights, or rather just let yourself have them. Freedom isn't something that can be given to you. Its just a state of mind that none of us are really used to.

rant
 Quoting: AnniJust


I like that! Well Said!!
 Quoting: settle4it


I know the world is not a perfect place nor is our government. Over the last 6 yrs. from investigating 911 and 2012 I went through a roller coaster ride of emotions. You might say it was a cleansing of my emotions. I realized I had felt like a victim a large part of my life. I had a lot of anger and mixed up emotions that I fortunately dealt with and I feel a lot better now. The NWO stuff and 911 really got me going.

The point I am trying to make is perhaps this time period we are going through is perfect time to cleanse ourselves for what may be coming. I am no longer as angry at our government and others because I believe they my be doing all this for reasons we are not privy to and covering it with the NWO, illuminati stuff. Like I said before I believe 911 could have been perpetrated as a cover for preparation of the National Security State and continuity of government. I am not saying it was right I am saying the military makes these decisions all the time. i am glad I am not them.

I really feel there is something much bigger going on here than any of us know and we sure don't have the entire picture. Peace and forgiveness.
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That would be a hard bone to swallow...
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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.


I understand that feeling...have had it for two yrs now...it gets stronger every day! And in ALL honesty...I DON"T think nibiru is coming...what's/Who's coming is bigger than that!


That would be a hard bone to swallow.

I hear you but read the above and think about it what if an ELE is on the way(I think it is)and you wanted the human race to have a chance to continue. How would you do it w/o alarming the natives? I know some of us could handle the info. but perhaps a lot could not. May be they believe they are doing what is best. Believe me there has been no one here more outraged over what I thought was going on than me. But as time goes on and I continue to observe I started to change my thinking.

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It does not necessarily have to be Nibiru it could be the result of a massive CME like Patrick Geryl states, or from the debris cloud we are going through. What will cause it is far less important to me than why they are making all these preparations that make no sense and all the strange behavior worldwide. On some level I believe a lot of us intuitively know something is going on. That' what happened to me in 2007 after watching about the Mayan calender I had a strange feeling come over me like OMG this is the truth. It never went away.
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I understand that feeling...have had it for two yrs now...it gets stronger every day! And in ALL honesty...I DON"T think nibiru is coming...what's/Who's coming is bigger than that!


That would be a hard bone to swallow.

I hear you but read the above and think about it what if an ELE is on the way(I think it is)and you wanted the human race to have a chance to continue. How would you do it w/o alarming the natives? I know some of us could handle the info. but perhaps a lot could not. May be they believe they are doing what is best.


I understand what you are saying...and agree that something is on the way...and we will all know soon...*sigh*
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if a 6000 years old civilization is bullshit for you then you're something.
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No, just Sitchin.
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So how can you say for sure sitchin has mistranslated summerian texts? can you decode them by yourself?because that what he says sounds like fairy tales? what's so fancy about some beings that traveled to other planets and made genetic modifications? humans went to the moon and made genetic modifications too.
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[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

Try this genius ... He does not even realize the language he is translating from some of the times . Conflating Aramaic with Hebrew . This site is full of numerous examples of Sitchins shoddy work . Oh and btw there is a Sumerian dictionary online any one can use , you can check the translations yourself
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Conflating Aramaic with hebrew?? What's that have to do with Cuneiform? Aside from the fact that the cuneiform stories were already translated since the late 1800's. Sitchin basically saw what a lot of others had already pointed out...Look up Velikoki and Doniken...Or better yet look up Samuel Kramer!
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No, just Sitchin.
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So how can you say for sure sitchin has mistranslated summerian texts? can you decode them by yourself?because that what he says sounds like fairy tales? what's so fancy about some beings that traveled to other planets and made genetic modifications? humans went to the moon and made genetic modifications too.
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[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

Try this genius ... He does not even realize the language he is translating from some of the times . Conflating Aramaic with Hebrew . This site is full of numerous examples of Sitchins shoddy work . Oh and btw there is a Sumerian dictionary online any one can use , you can check the translations yourself
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Conflating Aramaic with hebrew?? What's that have to do with Cuneiform? Aside from the fact that the cuneiform stories were already translated since the late 1800's. Sitchin basically saw what a lot of others had already pointed out...Look up Velikoki and Doniken...Or better yet look up Samuel Kramer!
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The link provided makes it pretty self-explanatory , if you even looked at it .
When he translates versus from Genesis geeze .......


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As well as that site gives numerous examples of mistranslated cuneiform ... if you even bothered to look before replying in an delusional diatribe
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They're preparing for a fruitless struggle to hold on to centralized power. Without electricity they won't be able to hold their own military together (soldiers have families too) let alone a centralized government.

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So how can you say for sure sitchin has mistranslated summerian texts? can you decode them by yourself?because that what he says sounds like fairy tales? what's so fancy about some beings that traveled to other planets and made genetic modifications? humans went to the moon and made genetic modifications too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16668989


[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

Try this genius ... He does not even realize the language he is translating from some of the times . Conflating Aramaic with Hebrew . This site is full of numerous examples of Sitchins shoddy work . Oh and btw there is a Sumerian dictionary online any one can use , you can check the translations yourself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15582870



Conflating Aramaic with hebrew?? What's that have to do with Cuneiform? Aside from the fact that the cuneiform stories were already translated since the late 1800's. Sitchin basically saw what a lot of others had already pointed out...Look up Velikoki and Doniken...Or better yet look up Samuel Kramer!
 Quoting: Chucky Sagan 15492862


The link provided makes it pretty self-explanatory , if you even looked at it .
When he translates versus from Genesis geeze .......


weirdo
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I read that link years ago...I even read the book Michael Heiser SELLS at that link!!

If you're referring to the NEPHILIM in Genesis as "Those who come from above" as his translation you're right...But he's not the only one that translates it thus. It is what it means. Sitchin doesn't have a reputation for bad translations in hebrew...It's cuneiform where he's questioned...You need to read the book that Heiser wrote too. He's a mad hatter at best!!

Heiser is so jealous of Sitchin it shows all over that site!

No one's ever heard of Michael Heiser with all his accolades.

Sitchin's books were printed in the tens of millions!! I think 12th planet alone was 45 million copies!!

He opened eyes!!

You need to get better references than sitchiniswrong.com brother.
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Just to make sure that I know what I'm saying I revisited sitchiniswrong.com


The point Heiser makes is a moot point. The Nephilim don't mater in Genesis 6, what matters is the Bene Elohim.

The sons of Gods coming down to earth to mate with earth women.

Whatever the Nephilim were that they were here already from before just adds to the horror story, they were obviously superior to the men of that age, they were the "heroes of old". So it seems to corroborate that someone else was here along with man prior to the Bene Elohim coming down...The way they wrote the story in Aramaic and Hebrew mixed does not mean it was badly translated. I speak english and spanish and then theres this thing called spanglish see? Where you mix the languages and say what you mean...The ancient hebrew bible was written altogether you know...There were no divisions like Genesis 1 or Genesis 2...It was all a jumble of words in ancient hebrew, not hebrew, ancient hebrew.

The bottom line is that you're missing the forest for the trees. There were others here beside man and they were superior...You do know what happens when a more advanced culture meets a less advanced culture right?

Man was screwed.
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The end of the year & even towards the end of the year, will be days that live in infamy. No one wants to believe it, but sure as the sun rises & sets there will be many, many regrets.
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The end of the year & even towards the end of the year, will be days that live in infamy. No one wants to believe it, but sure as the sun rises & sets there will be many, many regrets.
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verysad
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Just to make sure that I know what I'm saying I revisited sitchiniswrong.com


The point Heiser makes is a moot point. The Nephilim don't mater in Genesis 6, what matters is the Bene Elohim.

The sons of Gods coming down to earth to mate with earth women.

Whatever the Nephilim were that they were here already from before just adds to the horror story, they were obviously superior to the men of that age, they were the "heroes of old". So it seems to corroborate that someone else was here along with man prior to the Bene Elohim coming down...The way they wrote the story in Aramaic and Hebrew mixed does not mean it was badly translated. I speak english and spanish and then theres this thing called spanglish see? Where you mix the languages and say what you mean...The ancient hebrew bible was written altogether you know...There were no divisions like Genesis 1 or Genesis 2...It was all a jumble of words in ancient hebrew, not hebrew, ancient hebrew.

The bottom line is that you're missing the forest for the trees. There were others here beside man and they were superior...You do know what happens when a more advanced culture meets a less advanced culture right?

Man was screwed.
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He sold a lot of books is not a solid logical argument. YOU are appealing to authority . sorry try again
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Just to make sure that I know what I'm saying I revisited sitchiniswrong.com


The point Heiser makes is a moot point. The Nephilim don't mater in Genesis 6, what matters is the Bene Elohim.

The sons of Gods coming down to earth to mate with earth women.

Whatever the Nephilim were that they were here already from before just adds to the horror story, they were obviously superior to the men of that age, they were the "heroes of old". So it seems to corroborate that someone else was here along with man prior to the Bene Elohim coming down...The way they wrote the story in Aramaic and Hebrew mixed does not mean it was badly translated. I speak english and spanish and then theres this thing called spanglish see? Where you mix the languages and say what you mean...The ancient hebrew bible was written altogether you know...There were no divisions like Genesis 1 or Genesis 2...It was all a jumble of words in ancient hebrew, not hebrew, ancient hebrew.

The bottom line is that you're missing the forest for the trees. There were others here beside man and they were superior...You do know what happens when a more advanced culture meets a less advanced culture right?

Man was screwed.
 Quoting: Chucky Sagan


He sold a lot of books is not a solid logical argument. YOU are appealing to authority . sorry try again
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He sold a lot of books is why Heiser is so jealous. You read again.
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The earth has been around a long time, its not going anywhere, we are.

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bump

He was a very smart man and funny.
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Just to make sure that I know what I'm saying I revisited sitchiniswrong.com


The point Heiser makes is a moot point. The Nephilim don't mater in Genesis 6, what matters is the Bene Elohim.

The sons of Gods coming down to earth to mate with earth women.

Whatever the Nephilim were that they were here already from before just adds to the horror story, they were obviously superior to the men of that age, they were the "heroes of old". So it seems to corroborate that someone else was here along with man prior to the Bene Elohim coming down...The way they wrote the story in Aramaic and Hebrew mixed does not mean it was badly translated. I speak english and spanish and then theres this thing called spanglish see? Where you mix the languages and say what you mean...The ancient hebrew bible was written altogether you know...There were no divisions like Genesis 1 or Genesis 2...It was all a jumble of words in ancient hebrew, not hebrew, ancient hebrew.

The bottom line is that you're missing the forest for the trees. There were others here beside man and they were superior...You do know what happens when a more advanced culture meets a less advanced culture right?

Man was screwed.
 Quoting: Chucky Sagan


It sounds like women got screwed too(literally that is)!! By the GODS of old so to speak. LMAO

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Well thats weird your family feels the same way but who knows I mean everyone has their own intuition and inner feelings maybe it could mean something big is about to happen with you and your family which it could be good thing that happens I guess you never know.
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That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
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Can I ask your location in the CONUS?
Perhaps you are in an area that will be destroyed soon, that is why all in your neighborhood are having the same feelings.

For instance, if you are in Florida, I consider this to be a sandbar, a peninsula into the ocean.
Not a safe place in a time of earth changes and prevalent sunamis.
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I am in N Texas...
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In all honesty, I don't think it matters where one lives. I have had this feeling ever since 2007 after watching the 2012 Mayan documentary on the History Channel. Something came over me when I saw the alignment of the Galactic Center and the earth, like OMG!! this is the truth. I researched it and I bought a small farm in VA(recommended A+ for safety) and I prepared big time(food, bunker, water, etc). I went through a lot of emotional changes during these 2 years. You could call it a type of emotional cleansing and dealing with issues in my past. I had a lot of fear and anger I had to deal with and I did. When I was done building everything then I had the feeling that it does not matter anymore. I am ready for what is to be and I am OK with what ever happens. I really think this is what it is all about "to have faith in the process".
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That would be wonderful...but not this feeling...it is not just my family...even our neighbors are talking about this...it is like humanity has started to wake up and just cannot remember that dream.
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Can I ask your location in the CONUS?
Perhaps you are in an area that will be destroyed soon, that is why all in your neighborhood are having the same feelings.

For instance, if you are in Florida, I consider this to be a sandbar, a peninsula into the ocean.
Not a safe place in a time of earth changes and prevalent sunamis.
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I am in N Texas...
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In all honesty, I don't think it matters where one lives. I have had this feeling ever since 2007 after watching the 2012 Mayan documentary on the History Channel. Something came over me when I saw the alignment of the Galactic Center and the earth, like OMG!! this is the truth. I researched it and I bought a small farm in VA(recommended A+ for safety) and I prepared big time(food, bunker, water, etc). I went through a lot of emotional changes during these 2 years. You could call it a type of emotional cleansing and dealing with issues in my past. I had a lot of fear and anger I had to deal with and I did. When I was done building everything then I had the feeling that it does not matter anymore. I am ready for what is to be and I am OK with what ever happens. I really think this is what it is all about "to have faith in the process".
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I agree...This IS what it IS...we cannot change or stop it...Can anyone else hear a strange high-pitched sound? Has anyone else felt the vibrations over the past three days? By vibrations I mean...I was lying down and it felt as though the whole room vibrated for a few seconds...my daughter felt it in the LR....she thought she was dizzy for a few seconds.
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that's just for in case, like something serious infectious is widespreading, they will hoard the causes up to rott away and such.
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thanks for this thread





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