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Here's the transcript from his Grandmothers interview:


Here’s the conversation:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.


[link to www.salon.com]
 Quoting: Major_Payne


You progressives / liberals crack me up. Your sources are typically some batty Left-Leaning website that has zero credibility or ones that mix a bit of truth with lies to fool the unintelligent.

Often times your links are to blogging forums that anyone can create and post their version of the truth (i.e. Wordpress).

In this case, Salon.com is a progressive online magazine, which was founded by a progressive journalist named David Talbot. He has many ties with other progressive organizations like Mother Earth etc., and has a reputation for being a revisionist historian (and not always the good kind).

So they (Solon) are hardly a bastion of impartiality or truth.

They are about as creditworthy as Snopes and FactCheck, both of which have been shown to demonstrate a liberal bias, posting inaccurate information about Obama's past in an effort to obfuscate the truth.

Just because something is on the Internet, does not make it the truth.


Regarding your above "transcript" I have seen other translations that totally contradict what you've posted above including the actual video of his Grandmother with an interpreter present.

The Liberals have control of most of the media outlets, one would be wise not to believe everything they see or hear. Do your own investigation and seek the truth.
 Quoting: First Professor


THANK YOU TIME TO PUT A LIE TO THE BELIEF THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE SIDE-THE LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT IS BEYOND EVIL. SORRY INDEPENTTARDS BUT THIS THINGS ADMINISTRATION IS BEYOND THE PALE. ALL OF THIS ANTI-WHITE/ANTI-CHRISTIAN,ANTI-STRAIGHT PROPAGANDA WAS PART OF THE COVER THAT LET THIS CREATURE SLITHER IN....rant

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I think him and his group will do anything to stay in power-i believe there are competing factions. A more likely theory may involve the countries finances. Think about it-the interstellar spending,they had to know it was not payable-with the caos of soebarta's arrest a new currency can be put in-and martial law to deal with the inevitable race riots. This involves the entire 60's liberal establishment's ultimate goal-they hated american exceptionalism and have slowly taken over education,finance the media and goverment.
 Quoting: dietrich


You have a point, but as the previous video said and I stated in my 'theory,' O's ineligibilty is an exploitable liability to hold over his head. He' always one MSM story away from out and out impeachment. You wanna talk about a race war then?

Peace,

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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
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FU, racist pig! How the fuck did he get elected if whites are so damn racist? Explain that, fucking moron.
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I think him and his group will do anything to stay in power-i believe there are competing factions. A more likely theory may involve the countries finances. Think about it-the interstellar spending,they had to know it was not payable-with the caos of soebarta's arrest a new currency can be put in-and martial law to deal with the inevitable race riots. This involves the entire 60's liberal establishment's ultimate goal-they hated american exceptionalism and have slowly taken over education,finance the media and goverment.
 Quoting: dietrich


You have a point, but as the previous video said and I stated in my 'theory,' O's ineligibilty is an exploitable liability to hold over his head. He' always one MSM story away from out and out impeachment. You wanna talk about a race war then?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


well, we could speculate forever,but my observation is that soetoro is so psychotic,i do not think he even knows the truth. I agree that he may have been chosen because of his potential for blackmale* * see what i did there! lol but more likely his bizare background made him easier to programe. he is a dual use mind contr5aol puppet-
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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237846



FU, racist pig! How the fuck did he get elected if whites are so damn racist? Explain that, fucking moron.
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let the pathetic scum double down on this "thing" odibgo-he should know however when this fraud is finally prosecuted it will set back the "black" for centuries. maybe not hitch your wagon to a treasonous fraud is all i'm sayin black dude...
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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237846


Oh! Umm! How can I say this in a nice way?

Ahhhh! Wait!! I've got it! Granny says it best.

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I think him and his group will do anything to stay in power-i believe there are competing factions. A more likely theory may involve the countries finances. Think about it-the interstellar spending,they had to know it was not payable-with the caos of soebarta's arrest a new currency can be put in-and martial law to deal with the inevitable race riots. This involves the entire 60's liberal establishment's ultimate goal-they hated american exceptionalism and have slowly taken over education,finance the media and goverment.
 Quoting: dietrich


You have a point, but as the previous video said and I stated in my 'theory,' O's ineligibilty is an exploitable liability to hold over his head. He' always one MSM story away from out and out impeachment. You wanna talk about a race war then?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


well, we could speculate forever,but my observation is that soetoro is so psychotic,i do not think he even knows the truth. I agree that he may have been chosen because of his potential for blackmale* * see what i did there! lol but more likely his bizare background made him easier to programe. he is a dual use mind contr5aol puppet-
 Quoting: dietrich


NICE!

lmao

...and yea, he may not know. After all he was just a baby when he was born.

Peace,

DP
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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237846


Oh! Umm! How can I say this in a nice way?

Ahhhh! Wait!! I've got it! Granny says it best.

granny
 Quoting: CatBTX

Shouldn't the "blacks" be most upset that the subarta propagated this fraud knowing what it will do to destroy the "blacks" if obama was english/german like me i'd be pissed at the dishonor he has brought....
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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237846


Oh! Umm! How can I say this in a nice way?

Ahhhh! Wait!! I've got it! Granny says it best.

granny
 Quoting: CatBTX

Shouldn't the "blacks" be most upset that the subarta propagated this fraud knowing what it will do to destroy the "blacks" if obama was english/german like me i'd be pissed at the dishonor he has brought....
 Quoting: dietrich


Sadly, most of them are proving themselves to be too dumb to see the big picture. Such a shame that they are not only allowing him to do this, but welcoming the chance to help him do it and get away with it. Talk about sheep...
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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237846


Ah, yes - the RACE card again.

Guess what, that doesn't work anymore.

Kind of like the blame 'Bush' excuse.

It's been overused.

I refuse to acknowledge your childish, inane attempt at name calling.

Furthermore, your comment 'Let a black man rule you whites for once' implies that our President is a dictator or a King. Sorry but this is America, the LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE.
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I think him and his group will do anything to stay in power-i believe there are competing factions. A more likely theory may involve the countries finances. Think about it-the interstellar spending,they had to know it was not payable-with the caos of soebarta's arrest a new currency can be put in-and martial law to deal with the inevitable race riots. This involves the entire 60's liberal establishment's ultimate goal-they hated american exceptionalism and have slowly taken over education,finance the media and goverment.
 Quoting: dietrich


You have a point, but as the previous video said and I stated in my 'theory,' O's ineligibilty is an exploitable liability to hold over his head. He' always one MSM story away from out and out impeachment. You wanna talk about a race war then?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


well, we could speculate forever,but my observation is that soetoro is so psychotic,i do not think he even knows the truth. I agree that he may have been chosen because of his potential for blackmale* * see what i did there! lol but more likely his bizare background made him easier to programe. he is a dual use mind contr5aol puppet-
 Quoting: dietrich


NICE!

lmao

...and yea, he may not know. After all he was just a baby when he was born.

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon
I MEAN HE IS SUCH A DERANGED,MALIGNANT NARCISSIST,EVEN HITLER/STALIN/MAO HAD SOME SELF RESTRAINT,BUT LOOK AT THE WAY HE AND THE SHE-MALE "WIFE" BEHAVEthe only coherent strategy he has may be to release the inner city savages,but they are no match for the old white guys with proper fire arms training. ever see a black guy shoot? holding the side arm sideways-HEY LIBERAL TOOL IT'S "SIDE ARM"popcorn-NOT SIDEWAYS!

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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237846


Ah, yes - the RACE card again.

Guess what, that doesn't work anymore.

Kind of like the blame 'Bush' excuse.

It's been overused.

I refuse to acknowledge your childish, inane attempt at name calling.

Furthermore, your comment 'Let a black man rule you whites for once' implies that our President is a dictator or a King. Sorry but this is America, the LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE.
 Quoting: First Professor


and don't forget creator of 'pink slime,' GMO's, fast foot joints, high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated fat, carbon credits and the popeel pocket fisherman (to name just a few).

Peace,

DP
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Most of you weren't around on a college campus in 1961. I was---almost all foreign students COULD NOT AFFORD TO GO HOME IN THE SUMMER!! (except maybe rich Kuwaitis) A flight to Africa was relatively much more expensive then. Stipends for grad students were about $1200 a year. Everything I've read about Obama's father indicates he was from a family without much money. Where could have he found the money for two round trip fares to Kenya? And how did the announcement of Obama's birth in a Honolulu hospital (which is submitted by the HOSPITAL in question) get into the Honolulu newspapers? Think on these things, please! Saying he was born in Kenya just makes some Kenyans feel good...a harmless myth (until he ran for president). Ann Durham wasn't from a well to do family either.
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Most of you weren't around on a college campus in 1961. I was---almost all foreign students COULD NOT AFFORD TO GO HOME IN THE SUMMER!! (except maybe rich Kuwaitis) A flight to Africa was relatively much more expensive then. Stipends for grad students were about $1200 a year. Everything I've read about Obama's father indicates he was from a family without much money. Where could have he found the money for two round trip fares to Kenya? And how did the announcement of Obama's birth in a Honolulu hospital (which is submitted by the HOSPITAL in question) get into the Honolulu newspapers? Think on these things, please! Saying he was born in Kenya just makes some Kenyans feel good...a harmless myth (until he ran for president). Ann Durham wasn't from a well to do family either.
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Like everything else tied to this president, stinks to high hell.
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You have a point, but as the previous video said and I stated in my 'theory,' O's ineligibilty is an exploitable liability to hold over his head. He' always one MSM story away from out and out impeachment. You wanna talk about a race war then?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


well, we could speculate forever,but my observation is that soetoro is so psychotic,i do not think he even knows the truth. I agree that he may have been chosen because of his potential for blackmale* * see what i did there! lol but more likely his bizare background made him easier to programe. he is a dual use mind contr5aol puppet-
 Quoting: dietrich


NICE!

lmao

...and yea, he may not know. After all he was just a baby when he was born.

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon
I MEAN HE IS SUCH A DERANGED,MALIGNANT NARCISSIST,EVEN HITLER/STALIN/MAO HAD SOME SELF RESTRAINT,BUT LOOK AT THE WAY HE AND THE SHE-MALE "WIFE" BEHAVEthe only coherent strategy he has may be to release the inner city savages,but they are no match for the old white guys with proper fire arms training. ever see a black guy shoot? holding the side arm sideways-HEY LIBERAL TOOL IT'S "SIDE ARM"popcorn-NOT SIDEWAYS!
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You got some pent up anger in there bro? 'cause I'm not sure he's really running the show. I'm against violence unless in bona-fide self defense (like in fear for my or my family's life. If things do get sketchy, I won't be around where people seek to hurt each other.

Peace,

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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1237846


Ah, yes - the RACE card again.

Guess what, that doesn't work anymore.

Kind of like the blame 'Bush' excuse.

It's been overused.

I refuse to acknowledge your childish, inane attempt at name calling.

Furthermore, your comment 'Let a black man rule you whites for once' implies that our President is a dictator or a King. Sorry but this is America, the LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE.
 Quoting: First Professor


and don't forget creator of 'pink slime,' GMO's, fast foot joints, high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated fat, carbon credits and the popeel pocket fisherman (to name just a few).

Peace,

DP
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UM WESTERN EUROPEANS ARE THE ONLY RACE TO PRODUCE FREEDOM FOR WOMEN,THE NON-RICH,"MINORITIES" THE PROBLEMS OFF MODERN CULTURE ARE DUE TO THE INFLUENCE OF THE JEW-CREATING AN ANTI-MALE,ANTI-PRODUCTIVE SOCIETY THAT ONLY BENEFITS MONEY CHANGERS-DO NOT LAY THESE PROBLEMS AT THE FEET OF ARISTOTLE,VOLTAIRE,HEIDEGER ET.AL. IF WESTERN SOCIETY IS TO BLAME IT IS IN THE FACT THEY LET THE INSIDIOUS jewish SLITHER INTO CIVILIZATION.-BRINGING SLAVES,FAKE MONEY AND SCIAL DESTRUCTION OF ANYTHING NORMAL AND LIFE AFFIRMING WITH IT. I SITE AS A SOURCE THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE LAST 3,000 YEARS.
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well, we could speculate forever,but my observation is that soetoro is so psychotic,i do not think he even knows the truth. I agree that he may have been chosen because of his potential for blackmale* * see what i did there! lol but more likely his bizare background made him easier to programe. he is a dual use mind contr5aol puppet-
 Quoting: dietrich


NICE!

lmao

...and yea, he may not know. After all he was just a baby when he was born.

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon
I MEAN HE IS SUCH A DERANGED,MALIGNANT NARCISSIST,EVEN HITLER/STALIN/MAO HAD SOME SELF RESTRAINT,BUT LOOK AT THE WAY HE AND THE SHE-MALE "WIFE" BEHAVEthe only coherent strategy he has may be to release the inner city savages,but they are no match for the old white guys with proper fire arms training. ever see a black guy shoot? holding the side arm sideways-HEY LIBERAL TOOL IT'S "SIDE ARM"popcorn-NOT SIDEWAYS!
 Quoting: dietrich


You got some pent up anger in there bro? 'cause I'm not sure he's really running the show. I'm against violence unless in bona-fide self defense (like in fear for my or my family's life. If things do get sketchy, I won't be around where people seek to hurt each other.

Peace,

DP
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ADDRESSING THE FACT THERE COULD BE VIOLENCE IS NOT A CALL FOR VIOLENCE.5a

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Just to set the record straight, I believe this sign was erected in honor of his father Barack H. Obama Sr., who was a senior government official in Kenya, (An economist).

I don't know where President Obama was born, whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii - but I do believe there are issues with his eligibility, as it relates to the Constitutional requirements.

If Barack H. Obama Sr. is his father as claimed, I believe he is not eligible per Article II.
 Quoting: First Professor


yes, this is the whole "natural born" issue. it's not enough to be born here. your parents must be citizens. (not sure if parents born here is a requirement).

the "natural born" stuff all sounds so foreign to us, but it turns out there is case law on it. and to make things worse, there was an attempt to hide this from the public. just google "Justiagate" and you will see what i mean. even if Obama was born in Hawaii, he is ineligible under the "natural born" requirement, and folks made attempts to hide that fact.
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Most of you weren't around on a college campus in 1961. I was---almost all foreign students COULD NOT AFFORD TO GO HOME IN THE SUMMER!! (except maybe rich Kuwaitis) A flight to Africa was relatively much more expensive then. Stipends for grad students were about $1200 a year. Everything I've read about Obama's father indicates he was from a family without much money. Where could have he found the money for two round trip fares to Kenya? And how did the announcement of Obama's birth in a Honolulu hospital (which is submitted by the HOSPITAL in question) get into the Honolulu newspapers? Think on these things, please! Saying he was born in Kenya just makes some Kenyans feel good...a harmless myth (until he ran for president). Ann Durham wasn't from a well to do family either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15543879


This all may be true, but as each day passes, one more little allegation comes forward that, collectively, are hard to dismiss off hand. This "typo" excuse in 1991 smells VERY fishy. As I said in a previous post, the agent requires the AUTHOR, in this case Obama, to submit a brief bio for publication. This mean O would have sent that info in himself. Even if it was an 'honest' mistake, I think very few people would let that gross of an error slip by. Especially those with political aspirations.

Peace,

DP

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bump before bedtime. I don't understand why this was unpinned.
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Most of you weren't around on a college campus in 1961. I was---almost all foreign students COULD NOT AFFORD TO GO HOME IN THE SUMMER!! (except maybe rich Kuwaitis) A flight to Africa was relatively much more expensive then. Stipends for grad students were about $1200 a year. Everything I've read about Obama's father indicates he was from a family without much money. Where could have he found the money for two round trip fares to Kenya? And how did the announcement of Obama's birth in a Honolulu hospital (which is submitted by the HOSPITAL in question) get into the Honolulu newspapers? Think on these things, please! Saying he was born in Kenya just makes some Kenyans feel good...a harmless myth (until he ran for president). Ann Durham wasn't from a well to do family either.
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I agree and you make several very valid points. However there is a lot of controversy regarding Stanley Ann Dunham's whereabouts near the time of his birth. The time-line when she was supposedly enrolled in college is suspect.

Also, she would have probably been denied flight as a pregnant woman in 1961.

Now we've recently heard that some of the immigration / travel records are missing for a week in 1961, the same week that Barack was (supposedly) born. And only that one week.

As far as the newspaper notice of his birth. First, this is not proof of a Hawaiian birth, it's just proof that he was born. Many have stated that the grandparents could have submitted the information.

Second, the only record of this announcement is from a microfiche tape. I have yet to see any hard-copy newspapers released (none probably exist, as the papers would be 50+ years old).

A relative of mine is a microfiche expert who has been working with such film for decades. He states that (with the right equipment), one could 'edit' a portion of the microfiche, thus inserting any information necessary.

I am not claiming that this occurred, but now that we know that the officially released birth certificate is suspect, anything is possible

The point here for those defending Obama (and calling Birthers names) is that you have to admit, there are a lot of questions related to this man that we elected.

Aside from the news we heard today, consider these questions.


(1) Just before becoming President an article appeared in an African newspaper noting / identifying Obama as a Kenyan (re: News from Uganda, the Pearl of Africa_files)

see - [link to www.scribd.com] /

see - [link to www.scribd.com]


(2) Relatives in Hawaii & Africa (Grandmothers etc.) have stated that Obama was born in Africa, some claim to have witnessed the birth in Kenya.


(3) Before the 2008 election, Obama & Democrats ironically challenged John McCain's eligibility (because he was born in Panama on a base to two US Citizens). A congressional hearing was held and it was confirmed that the definition of a Natural Born Citizen entailed being born on US soil (or US base) by two Citizens. Even Barack himself voted for this definition. Did the Democrats do this in case the Reps challenged Obama? Why didn't the Republicans counter-challenge?


(4) When the Democrats submitted the certificate of nomination they (Pelosi) signed / submitted two versions. DNC language on one version does NOT include language stating Obama was qualified per the US constitution, while the RNC document does.
see [link to www.canadafreepress.com]


(5) Barack Obama publicly admits his father was born in Kenya, a fact that is reiterated in his autobiographical books and in various other sources (White House Bio. etc.). The Constitution requires that "No person except a Natural Born citizen...." is eligible. Yet he pursued the office of President knowing he did not meet the criteria.


(6) It is believed he received funding for college as a foreign student (this suggests one of two things: (a) If he was a US citizen and received funding as a foreigner - he lied or (b) if he was indeed a foreign student he was not a US citizen thus would not qualify to run as POTUS.


(7) Possibly failed to register for the draft / SSN was never issued to Barack Obama per Selective Services. Crime? Can such a person hold a Federal office? I think not.


(8) Questions about his Citizenship as a child (lived in/ went to school in Indonesia) and whether he ever re-established or (ever) applied for US Citizenship.


(9) Questions about which passport was used to travel to Pakistan. Some suggest that there was a ban for US citizens to travel there, however many believe it was possible. But there is a question about how many Passports he had, which one was used and what was the stated nationality.


(10) Disbarred from Illinois as a Lawyer – some believe it was because he swore that he had never gone by any name other than Barack Obama when in fact he had. (He was known by many names including Barry Soetoro).


(11) Oath of office flub - When Obama took his oath of office; he apparently flubbed the wording, which caused him to re-take the oath in private thus essentially nullifying the initial oath attempt. Was this done on purpose? What was said in the private oath? Did he even re-take the oath?


(12) Widely believed that Barack Obama has spent over 1 million dollars in legal fees to keep records sealed and keep his eligibility issue out of the courts. Why do this - if there is nothing to hide? Also, the $1 million value was from 2 years ago, it would stand to reason that he has probably now spent in excess of $2 million


(13) List of Records sealed.

a. Certified copy of original birth certificate
b. Columbia University transcripts
c. Columbia thesis paper
d. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
e. Harvard University transcripts
f. Illinois State Senate records
g. Illinois State Senate schedule
h. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
i. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
j. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
k. Occidental College Transcripts
l. Parent's marriage Certificate
m. Record of baptism
n. Selective Service registration records (Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
o. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
p. Passport records for all passports
q. Scholarly articles
r. SAT and LSAT test scores


(14) Questions about 'which' Hawaiian hospital he was born & the name of the hospital in 1961 compared to what was listed on birth certificate. Also a question as to whether the hospital he claims to have been born at even has a record of his birth.


(15) His SSN refers to Jean Paul Ludwig 042-68-4425 who was born in ~1890, applied for in 1977 and died in ~1981 (Someone asked what the name was earlier.)


(16) Possible link to the use of multiple SSNs, which is illegal - ID theft?


(17) SSN used by Obama does not pass E-Verify


(18) Birth Certificate registration number out of sequence of Nordyke twins. Obama's birth certificate received a HIGHER number (10641) than the Nordyke twins (10637, 10638).

Aug. 4, 1961 - Obama supposedly born in Hawaii in Kapiolani hospital.

Aug. 5, 1961 - Nordyke twins born in Hawaii in same Kapiolani hospital. Copies of long form birth certificates are on Internet.

Aug. 8, 1961 - Obama's birth certificate is filed with Hawaii vital statistics, if we are to believe what we see on Obama's short form birth certificate that we see all over the Internet.

Aug. 11, 1961 -- Nordyke twins birth certificate filed with Hawaii vital statistics.

#10641 -- Obama number on short form birth certificate that we see all over the Internet.

#10638 -- Nordyke twin number on top of long form birth certificate.

#10637 -- Nordyke twin number on top of long form birth certificate we see on Internet.


(19) Birth Certificate that was finally released was deemed suspect by several document experts and had many questionable issues - type face too similar for similar text (if it were created by a typewriter, it would not be consistent), possible use of layering of data


(20) His Certificate Of Live Birth indicates he is "AFRICAN"... in the 60's I believe the correct term was "NEGRO"


(21) Questions about the time-line of Barack Obama's mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) University of Washington records place Stanley Ann Dunham in Washington State in Aug 1961 so how could she be in Honolulu 2680 miles away birthing Barack the same month.

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Most of you weren't around on a college campus in 1961. I was---almost all foreign students COULD NOT AFFORD TO GO HOME IN THE SUMMER!! (except maybe rich Kuwaitis) A flight to Africa was relatively much more expensive then. Stipends for grad students were about $1200 a year. Everything I've read about Obama's father indicates he was from a family without much money. Where could have he found the money for two round trip fares to Kenya? And how did the announcement of Obama's birth in a Honolulu hospital (which is submitted by the HOSPITAL in question) get into the Honolulu newspapers? Think on these things, please! Saying he was born in Kenya just makes some Kenyans feel good...a harmless myth (until he ran for president). Ann Durham wasn't from a well to do family either.
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I agree and you make several very valid points. However there is a lot of controversy regarding Stanley Ann Dunham's whereabouts near the time of his birth. The time-line when she was supposedly enrolled in college is suspect.

Also, she would have probably been denied flight as a pregnant woman in 1961.

Now we've recently heard that some of the immigration / travel records are missing for a week in 1961, the same week that Barack was (supposedly) born. And only that one week.

As far as the newspaper notice of his birth. First, this is not proof of a Hawaiian birth, it's just proof that he was born. Many have stated that the grandparents could have submitted the information.

Second, the only record of this announcement is from a microfiche tape. I have yet to see any hard-copy newspapers released (none probably exist, as the papers would be 50+ years old).

A relative of mine is a microfiche expert who has been working with such film for decades. He states that (with the right equipment), one could 'edit' a portion of the microfiche, thus inserting any information necessary.

I am not claiming that this occurred, but now that we know that the officially released birth certificate is suspect, anything is possible

The point here for those defending Obama (and calling Birthers names) is that you have to admit, there are a lot of questions related to this man that we elected.

Aside from the news we heard today, consider these questions.


(1) Just before becoming President an article appeared in an African newspaper noting / identifying Obama as a Kenyan (re: News from Uganda, the Pearl of Africa_files)

see - [link to www.scribd.com] /

see - [link to www.scribd.com]


(2) Relatives in Hawaii & Africa (Grandmothers etc.) have stated that Obama was born in Africa, some claim to have witnessed the birth in Kenya.


(3) Before the 2008 election, Obama & Democrats ironically challenged John McCain's eligibility (because he was born in Panama on a base to two US Citizens). A congressional hearing was held and it was confirmed that the definition of a Natural Born Citizen entailed being born on US soil (or US base) by two Citizens. Even Barack himself voted for this definition. Did the Democrats do this in case the Reps challenged Obama? Why didn't the Republicans counter-challenge?

(4) When the Democrats submitted the certificate of nomination they (Pelosi) signed / submitted two versions. DNC language on one version does NOT include language stating Obama was qualified per the US constitution, while the RNC document does.
see [link to www.canadafreepress.com]

(5) Barack Obama publicly admits his father was born in Kenya, a fact that is reiterated in his autobiographical books and in various other sources (White House Bio. etc.). The Constitution requires that "No person except a Natural Born citizen...." is eligible. Yet he pursued the office of President knowing he did not meet the criteria.

(6) It is believed he received funding for college as a foreign student (this suggests one of two things: (a) If he was a US citizen and received funding as a foreigner - he lied or (b) if he was indeed a foreign student he was not a US citizen thus would not qualify to run as POTUS.

(7) Possibly failed to register for the draft / SSN was never issued to Barack Obama per Selective Services. Crime? Can such a person hold a Federal office? I think not.

(8) Questions about his Citizenship as a child (lived in/ went to school in Indonesia) and whether he ever re-established or (ever) applied for US Citizenship.

(9) Questions about which passport was used to travel to Pakistan. Some suggest that there was a ban for US citizens to travel there, however many believe it was possible. But there is a question about how many Passports he had, which one was used and what was the stated nationality.

(10) Disbarred from Illinois as a Lawyer – some believe it was because he swore that he had never gone by any name other than Barack Obama when in fact he had. (He was known by many names including Barry Soetoro).

(11) Oath of office flub - When Obama took his oath of office; he apparently flubbed the wording, which caused him to re-take the oath in private thus essentially nullifying the initial oath attempt. Was this done on purpose? What was said in the private oath? Did he even re-take the oath?

(12) Widely believed that Barack Obama has spent over 1 million dollars in legal fees to keep records sealed and keep his eligibility issue out of the courts. Why do this - if there is nothing to hide? Also, the $1 million value was from 2 years ago, it would stand to reason that he has probably now spent in excess of $2 million
(13) List of Records sealed.

a. Certified copy of original birth certificate
b. Columbia University transcripts
c. Columbia thesis paper
d. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
e. Harvard University transcripts
f. Illinois State Senate records
g. Illinois State Senate schedule
h. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
i. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
j. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
k. Occidental College Transcripts
l. Parent's marriage Certificate
m. Record of baptism
n. Selective Service registration records (Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
o. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
p. Passport records for all passports
q. Scholarly articles
r. SAT and LSAT test scores


(14) Questions about 'which' Hawaiian hospital he was born & the name of the hospital in 1961 compared to what was listed on birth certificate. Also a question as to whether the hospital he claims to have been born at even has a record of his birth.

(15) His SSN refers to Jean Paul Ludwig 042-68-4425 who was born in ~1890, applied for in 1977 and died in ~1981 (Someone asked what the name was earlier.)

(16) Possible link to the use of multiple SSNs, which is illegal - ID theft?

(17) SSN used by Obama does not pass E-Verify

(18) Birth Certificate registration number out of sequence of Nordyke twins. Obama's birth certificate received a HIGHER number (10641) than the Nordyke twins (10637, 10638).

Aug. 4, 1961 - Obama supposedly born in Hawaii in Kapiolani hospital.

Aug. 5, 1961 - Nordyke twins born in Hawaii in same Kapiolani hospital. Copies of long form birth certificates are on Internet.

Aug. 8, 1961 - Obama's birth certificate is filed with Hawaii vital statistics, if we are to believe what we see on Obama's short form birth certificate that we see all over the Internet.

Aug. 11, 1961 -- Nordyke twins birth certificate filed with Hawaii vital statistics.

#10641 -- Obama number on short form birth certificate that we see all over the Internet.

#10638 -- Nordyke twin number on top of long form birth certificate.

#10637 -- Nordyke twin number on top of long form birth certificate we see on Internet.


(19) Birth Certificate that was finally released was deemed suspect by several document experts and had many questionable issues - type face too similar for similar text (if it were created by a typewriter, it would not be consistent), possible use of layering of data


(20) His Certificate Of Live Birth indicates he is "AFRICAN"... in the 60's I believe the correct term was "NEGRO"

(21) Questions about the time-line of Barack Obama's mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) University of Washington records place Stanley Ann Dunham in Washington State in Aug 1961 so how could she be in Honolulu 2680 miles away birthing Barack the same month.

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Hired, please draft the complaint and get back to me in the morning.

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God all you all just trying to keep the black man down.

Let a black man rule you whites for once, maybe you like it.
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Super pinned earlier. Fading to the back pages now on GLP. still the headliner on Drudge. GLP has been infiltrated.
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Yes a story about a volcano is super pinned.

whatever
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WHY IS THIS NOT PINNED??

Read the comments here at ABC - NOBODY is buying it! Everbody KNOWS Obama is a FRAUD!

We are ALL birthers now!!



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The lid finally comes off!!!



[link to www.breitbart.com]
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I gather the blue images in the article are pictures of the relevant part of the booklet? If so, the booklet could not have been written in 1991 as it refers to Barry as being president!
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It said he was the first African-American President of the law review, not the US.
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Here's the transcript from his Grandmothers interview:


Here’s the conversation:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.


[link to www.salon.com]
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You progressives / liberals crack me up. Your sources are typically some batty Left-Leaning website that has zero credibility or ones that mix a bit of truth with lies to fool the unintelligent.

Often times your links are to blogging forums that anyone can create and post their version of the truth (i.e. Wordpress).

In this case, Salon.com is a progressive online magazine, which was founded by a progressive journalist named David Talbot. He has many ties with other progressive organizations like Mother Earth etc., and has a reputation for being a revisionist historian (and not always the good kind).

So they (Solon) are hardly a bastion of impartiality or truth.

They are about as creditworthy as Snopes and FactCheck, both of which have been shown to demonstrate a liberal bias, posting inaccurate information about Obama's past in an effort to obfuscate the truth.

Just because something is on the Internet, does not make it the truth.


Regarding your above "transcript" I have seen other translations that totally contradict what you've posted above including the actual video of his Grandmother with an interpreter present.

The Liberals have control of most of the media outlets, one would be wise not to believe everything they see or hear. Do your own investigation and seek the truth.
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THANK YOU TIME TO PUT A LIE TO THE BELIEF THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE SIDE-THE LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT IS BEYOND EVIL. SORRY INDEPENTTARDS BUT THIS THINGS ADMINISTRATION IS BEYOND THE PALE. ALL OF THIS ANTI-WHITE/ANTI-CHRISTIAN,ANTI-STRAIGHT PROPAGANDA WAS PART OF THE COVER THAT LET THIS CREATURE SLITHER IN....rant
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All of this shows the stupidity of the birthers. So the actual RECORDING, which one can listen to, is not to be listened to because a "liberal site" points out the errors of the birthers? Fucking morons.

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