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Christians, as a former Christian, I want to remind you of what a Christian is.

According to Southern Baptist Christian Doctrine (Dogma, Game Rules)

You are a true Christian if you say that Jesus Christ is God and you believe it.

You can murder a million people and puppies but you'll still go to Heaven. Lots of apologists will claim you really don't believe that Jesus is God if you keep murdering, but still -- according to the official rulebook, you're still going to Heaven.

Mary is not a Goddess, nor is she divine. Only Jesus who is the human body of God the father, is God. Nor is the Holy Ghost a female, it is God's spirit on Earth.

As a Christian, you're not supposed to drink. At all.

Nor are you supposed to say 'fuck' or actively hate on people.
You're not supposed to hangout with or approve of prostitutes, gays, criminals, bad people, etc.. Sure, the Bible is full of examples where Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors but that isn't what church people do.

According to what Christians say in their churches, aliens are really demons that are trying to fool you. Nor are you to dabble in witchcraft or even watch shows about witchcraft. It is a sin to watch Buffy, Charmed, Play role-playing games with magic, anime magic, any magic. Basically you're saying you can answer your own prayers and you don't rely on God to help you.

The Bible is quite clear as many orthodox religions are that if you try to practice magic or enjoy people who do magic, that you are close to the ultimate sin, which is you are trying to be like God and his angels.

So there you have it.

Of course, this is why I am an Ex-Christian. I believe that the feminine is also a part of God. I believe that magic is good and my God demands that I not be lazy and do magic. My God is nature, something that people in the Middle Ages would have mislabeled as being evil. I believe that aliens are extra-terrestrials and not necessarily out to deceive and hurt us. I don't hate gays who were most likely born that way and have little conscious choice in who they are attracted to. Nor am I against drinking and dancing if done in moderation.

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Ex-Christian here (blame the family.)

All I have to say I find it so disgusting that Christianity will make you feel small by pulling B.S like "you're true a Christian if...", so and so.

I felt guilty for doing human things. What kind God makes you feel guilty?
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Christians, as a former Christian, I want to remind you of what a Christian is.

According to Southern Baptist Christian Doctrine (Dogma, Game Rules)

You are a true Christian if you say that Jesus Christ is God and you believe it.

You can murder a million people and puppies but you'll still go to Heaven. Lots of apologists will claim you really don't believe that Jesus is God if you keep murdering, but still -- according to the official rulebook, you're still going to Heaven.

Mary is not a Goddess, nor is she divine. Only Jesus who is the human body of God the father, is God. Nor is the Holy Ghost a female, it is God's spirit on Earth.

As a Christian, you're not supposed to drink. At all.

Nor are you supposed to say 'fuck' or actively hate on people.
You're not supposed to hangout with or approve of prostitutes, gays, criminals, bad people, etc.. Sure, the Bible is full of examples where Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors but that isn't what church people do.

According to what Christians say in their churches, aliens are really demons that are trying to fool you. Nor are you to dabble in witchcraft or even watch shows about witchcraft. It is a sin to watch Buffy, Charmed, Play role-playing games with magic, anime magic, any magic. Basically you're saying you can answer your own prayers and you don't rely on God to help you.

The Bible is quite clear as many orthodox religions are that if you try to practice magic or enjoy people who do magic, that you are close to the ultimate sin, which is you are trying to be like God and his angels.

So there you have it.

Of course, this is why I am an Ex-Christian. I believe that the feminine is also a part of God. I believe that magic is good and my God demands that I not be lazy and do magic. My God is nature, something that people in the Middle Ages would have mislabeled as being evil. I believe that aliens are extra-terrestrials and not necessarily out to deceive and hurt us. I don't hate gays who were most likely born that way and have little conscious choice in who they are attracted to. Nor am I against drinking and dancing if done in moderation.
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Murder based on your definition, or Gods? God is not anti-war.
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Murder based on your definition, or Gods? God is not anti-war.
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Not my God. I'm an ex-Christian. I do agree that the God of the Christian bible is pro-war. However, since Jesus is partially based on the life of Paul Apollonius, he was very anti-violence. It was Paul who demanded all religions of the Roman empire stop practicing animal sacrifice and offer incense instead. And Paul had Emperor Titus and the entire Roman army to enforce this new decree of non-violence.

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Christians, as a former Christian, I want to remind you of what a Christian is.

According to Southern Baptist Christian Doctrine (Dogma, Game Rules)

You are a true Christian if you say that Jesus Christ is God and you believe it.

You can murder a million people and puppies but you'll still go to Heaven. Lots of apologists will claim you really don't believe that Jesus is God if you keep murdering, but still -- according to the official rulebook, you're still going to Heaven.

Mary is not a Goddess, nor is she divine. Only Jesus who is the human body of God the father, is God. Nor is the Holy Ghost a female, it is God's spirit on Earth.

As a Christian, you're not supposed to drink. At all.

Nor are you supposed to say 'fuck' or actively hate on people.
You're not supposed to hangout with or approve of prostitutes, gays, criminals, bad people, etc.. Sure, the Bible is full of examples where Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors but that isn't what church people do.

According to what Christians say in their churches, aliens are really demons that are trying to fool you. Nor are you to dabble in witchcraft or even watch shows about witchcraft. It is a sin to watch Buffy, Charmed, Play role-playing games with magic, anime magic, any magic. Basically you're saying you can answer your own prayers and you don't rely on God to help you.

The Bible is quite clear as many orthodox religions are that if you try to practice magic or enjoy people who do magic, that you are close to the ultimate sin, which is you are trying to be like God and his angels.

So there you have it.

Of course, this is why I am an Ex-Christian. I believe that the feminine is also a part of God. I believe that magic is good and my God demands that I not be lazy and do magic. My God is nature, something that people in the Middle Ages would have mislabeled as being evil. I believe that aliens are extra-terrestrials and not necessarily out to deceive and hurt us. I don't hate gays who were most likely born that way and have little conscious choice in who they are attracted to. Nor am I against drinking and dancing if done in moderation.
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Murder based on your definition, or Gods? God is not anti-war.
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are you sure?
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Good thing you've distanced yourself from that dangerous mind control cult
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You are a true Christian if you say that Jesus Christ is God and you believe it.

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John 14:28
... my Father is greater than I.

You can murder a million people and puppies but you'll still go to Heaven. ...
 Quoting: ren1999


Mark 10:19
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill..

Mary is not a Goddess, nor is she divine. ...

 Quoting: ren1999


But she is blessed...

Luke 1:28
And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

As a Christian, you're not supposed to drink. At all...
 Quoting: ren1999


Luke 7:34
The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Nor are you supposed to say 'fuck' or actively hate on people.


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^Agreed^



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You are a true Christian if you say that Jesus Christ is God and you believe it.

 Quoting: ren1999


John 14:28
... my Father is greater than I.

You can murder a million people and puppies but you'll still go to Heaven. ...
 Quoting: ren1999


Mark 10:19
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill..

Mary is not a Goddess, nor is she divine. ...

 Quoting: ren1999


But she is blessed...

Luke 1:28
And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

As a Christian, you're not supposed to drink. At all...
 Quoting: ren1999


Luke 7:34
The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Nor are you supposed to say 'fuck' or actively hate on people.


 Quoting: ren1999



^Agreed^



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what about god is not anti-war?
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You are a true Christian if you say that Jesus Christ is God and you believe it.

 Quoting: ren1999


John 14:28
... my Father is greater than I.

You can murder a million people and puppies but you'll still go to Heaven. ...
 Quoting: ren1999


Mark 10:19
Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill..

Mary is not a Goddess, nor is she divine. ...

 Quoting: ren1999


But she is blessed...

Luke 1:28
And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

As a Christian, you're not supposed to drink. At all...
 Quoting: ren1999


Luke 7:34
The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

Nor are you supposed to say 'fuck' or actively hate on people.


 Quoting: ren1999



^Agreed^



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what about god is not anti-war?
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Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you



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Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
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OT and NT are very very different.
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Southern Baptists are not really representatives of Christianity -- just 1 very culturally conditioned reading of it.
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OT and NT are very very different.
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Thank God...

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant (Jer 31)



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OT and NT are very very different.
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Thank God...

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant (Jer 31)



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Not a new one, the first one. The other covenant couldn't have been made by God.
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OT and NT are very very different.
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Thank God...

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant (Jer 31)



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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Not a new one, the first one. The other covenant couldn't have been made by God.
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You'll have to take ^that^ up with God (and Jeremiah)...

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord (Jer 31)


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OT and NT are very very different.
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Thank God...

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant (Jer 31)



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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Not a new one, the first one. The other covenant couldn't have been made by God.
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You'll have to take ^that^ up with God (and Jeremiah)...

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord (Jer 31)


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Don't know who Jeremiah is. If he's from the OT...For example in exodus I think that Moses could have put his own views and what he claimed was God's will could have been his.
God can't be bad and tell you to kill someone because He is good.
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Thank God...

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant (Jer 31)



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Not a new one, the first one. The other covenant couldn't have been made by God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 639235



You'll have to take ^that^ up with God (and Jeremiah)...

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord (Jer 31)


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Don't know who Jeremiah is. If he's from the OT...
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fine.

Take it up with Paul...


13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.(Heb 8)




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sadly friend you are only half free from out artificially polarised and fake man made hierarchal delusions..

Because there is no polarised god or devil entity or energy in this observably chaotic bipolar universe. At best these two polarised extremes are just one and the same bipolar energy..called electricity..and anyone stupid enough to believe bipolar electricity has a plan, conscience or agenda and therefore needs to be put on a pedestal to worshipped and pray to or serve..is truely delusional.

Appreciated that our early ancestors has little or no ability or means to study or understand the bipolar (conflicting)) nature of the world and celestial cosmos or even alternating electricity...but there is no excuse for such igmorance and stupidity today.

But again, I appreciate that because of such huge global imbalance (both natural and man made), many humans still hope and pray for some hierarchal leader figure to come and save and help them...while others simply prefer to choose some form of artificial fantasy over reality to follow and serve...but ever noticed the fact that the bipolar chaos and instability never really goes away? Thats because it can't, as chaos is the fundemental nature of the universe...and not because one invisible good god thingy is fighting and equally naughty and resistant bad one...the universe isn't disney, christmas or mickey mouse
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sadly friend you are only half free from out artificially polarised and fake man made hierarchal delusions..

Because there is no polarised god or devil entity or energy in this observably chaotic bipolar universe. At best these two polarised extremes are just one and the same bipolar energy..called electricity..and anyone stupid enough to believe bipolar electricity has a plan, conscience or agenda and therefore needs to be put on a pedestal to worshipped and pray to or serve..is truely delusional.

Appreciated that our early ancestors has little or no ability or means to study or understand the bipolar (conflicting)) nature of the world and celestial cosmos or even alternating electricity...but there is no excuse for such igmorance and stupidity today.

But again, I appreciate that because of such huge global imbalance (both natural and man made), many humans still hope and pray for some hierarchal leader figure to come and save and help them...while others simply prefer to choose some form of artificial fantasy over reality to follow and serve...but ever noticed the fact that the bipolar chaos and instability never really goes away? Thats because it can't, as chaos is the fundemental nature of the universe...and not because one invisible good god thingy is fighting and equally naughty and resistant bad one...the universe isn't disney, christmas or mickey mouse
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It's all a matter of faith.
but the universe has laws: mathematic physics chemistry, it is not fundamentally chaotic.
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I will declare your name to my people;
in the assembly I will praise you.
23 You who fear the Lord, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
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I'm having some trouble with some "Christians" at my soon-to-be-ex-church. This thread made me smile. Thanks, OP.


Edited: My "soon-to-be-ex-church" means I'm leaving that church, not leaving my husband (he's not a soon-to-be-ex) who is at the church. (Sorry... I thought it might have been confusing.)

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Christians, as a former Christian, I want to remind you of what a Christian is.

According to Southern Baptist Christian Doctrine (Dogma, Game Rules)

You are a true Christian if you say that Jesus Christ is God and you believe it.

You can murder a million people and puppies but you'll still go to Heaven. Lots of apologists will claim you really don't believe that Jesus is God if you keep murdering, but still -- according to the official rulebook, you're still going to Heaven.

Mary is not a Goddess, nor is she divine. Only Jesus who is the human body of God the father, is God. Nor is the Holy Ghost a female, it is God's spirit on Earth.

As a Christian, you're not supposed to drink. At all.

Nor are you supposed to say 'fuck' or actively hate on people.
You're not supposed to hangout with or approve of prostitutes, gays, criminals, bad people, etc.. Sure, the Bible is full of examples where Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors but that isn't what church people do.

According to what Christians say in their churches, aliens are really demons that are trying to fool you. Nor are you to dabble in witchcraft or even watch shows about witchcraft. It is a sin to watch Buffy, Charmed, Play role-playing games with magic, anime magic, any magic. Basically you're saying you can answer your own prayers and you don't rely on God to help you.

The Bible is quite clear as many orthodox religions are that if you try to practice magic or enjoy people who do magic, that you are close to the ultimate sin, which is you are trying to be like God and his angels.

So there you have it.

Of course, this is why I am an Ex-Christian. I believe that the feminine is also a part of God. I believe that magic is good and my God demands that I not be lazy and do magic. My God is nature, something that people in the Middle Ages would have mislabeled as being evil. I believe that aliens are extra-terrestrials and not necessarily out to deceive and hurt us. I don't hate gays who were most likely born that way and have little conscious choice in who they are attracted to. Nor am I against drinking and dancing if done in moderation.
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Yahoshua was not nor did he teach Christianity. He was The Nazoraion and he taught Nazoraion beliefs.
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I'm having some trouble with some "Christians" at my soon-to-be-ex-church.
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Wtf are you talking about dick head?
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Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
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Stop! You quote Old Testament and tie it to Christians? Address this to the jewish people....the world is veiled to the Old Testament.

If you are going to kick around Christians....how about sticking to material that is less than 2015 years old?

Even you can do that?
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and dancing if done in moderation.
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fuckin' heathen...
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
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Stop! You quote Old Testament and tie it to Christians? Address this to the jewish people....the world is veiled to the Old Testament.

If you are going to kick around Christians....how about sticking to material that is less than 2015 years old?

Even you can do that?
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if christians don't wish to be associated with the old testament then fucking THROW IT OUT.

if you give it credence, then you will be assumed to give it such.
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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Why do you hate America? Why are you so insistent on bashing Christians (divide and conquer) and supporting gays (more divide and conquer)?
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Of course, this is why I am an Ex-Christian. I believe that the feminine is also a part of God. I believe that magic is good and my God demands that I not be lazy and do magic. My God is nature, something that people in the Middle Ages would have mislabeled as being evil. I believe that aliens are extra-terrestrials and not necessarily out to deceive and hurt us. I don't hate gays who were most likely born that way and have little conscious choice in who they are attracted to. Nor am I against drinking and dancing if done in moderation.
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LOL a tard spacey New Age Wiccan wannabe witch. rofl
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Why do you hate America? Why are you so insistent on bashing Christians (divide and conquer) and supporting gays (more divide and conquer)?
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asking christians to be consistent and non-hypocritical is hardly bashing.

see, there's your problem.
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Ex-Christian here (blame the family.)

All I have to say I find it so disgusting that Christianity will make you feel small by pulling B.S like "you're true a Christian if...", so and so.

I felt guilty for doing human things. What kind God makes you feel guilty?
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A righteous and holy God :)

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