Did God Raise Up Atheists to Witness Against a False Christian Church

God uses everyone. There's no wasted energy in this thing. We all have our role.

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Wow a original viewpoint I have to give you 5 stars.

This is an oxymoron

How so?

....Only on the assumption that your artificially created (man made) polarised invisible hierarchal god thingy (and devil thingy) actually exists of course,..so don't hold your breath friend as you might be in for a much bigger dissappointment that you realise, LOL.

Interesting perspective and question.

I don't have an answer for ya, but it's a thinker!

who says you have to be atheist to want to bring down false worship or idols?
God hates these things and so do I, that by no means makes me atheist.

(I don't think anyone implied any such thing)

he states "Jesus approves of atheists"
why because they want to bring down false worship and idol worship?
i dont see how he doesnt mean that????

You are actually correct, except about Protestants killing Catholic priests, the Catholics killed the Protestants by the millions. But, God did use the Atheists at the time of the French Revolution, and i suppose still does as the NWO is Rome's final "head".

The French Revolution was God's judgment upon Rome for the 1260 years of the dark ages.

"And I heard the angel of the waters say, You are righteous, O Lord, which are, and were, and shall be, because you have judged thus. For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are your judgments." (Rev.16:5-7)

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He didn't say "people who hate idols and want to take them down = atheists". You may have inferred that somehow.
Plenty of atheists stand against wickedness. That doesn't mean that anyone who stands against wickedness = atheist, yes?

Jesus disproves of Religitards. Also.

God didn't create atheists he created a man and a woman God created them spiritually neutral

then how did he get atheists out of his first two paragraphs, which obviously have nothing to do with atheisim, just to say, "Jesus approves of atheists"
unless that is to say the people in his first 2 paragraphs are atheists?

^^^^^^^^^^ I am an athiest and I approve of this Christian spin to utalise me for the greater good......

How hilarious would it be to watch atheists enter heaven while christians went to hell on judgement day? I wouldn't be able to restrain myself from making a remark as I passed through the gates.

God also used the Muslims to fell 2/3 of Rome's empire in the east.

Dont think he implied that you HAD to be an atheist to want to bring down false worship and idol...

OP is likely correct. God uses and even creates evil individuals specifically to teach lessons to those with free will. They essentially are evil drones with no hope of mercy who are acting out predefined roles in the grand scheme. Paul explains it in his letter to the Romans.

Romans chapter 8, verses 14-23:

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory...

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We might wanna take this with a grain of salt, considering the biblical definition of "destruction". . .Deuteronomy 4 warns the Israelites that they'll be destroyed when they adopt the ways of the heathen and serve idols. This "destruction" of the children of Israel is defined there as being scattered among the nations to serve more idols, and includes the provision that when they finally seek God, they'll find Him, because God is merciful and will not(?) destroy them. We can see here that "destruction" is not absolutely an annihilation in which persons cease to exist, yes? In this case, it's referring to earthly difficulties. People use the term "destroy" in the same exact allegorical manner today, usually when talking about merely defeating someone or "putting them in their place". Nevertheless, we've been brainwashed via Religion's fossilized mindset that "destruction" unquestionably equals the disastrous and eternal ruin of one's soul with no remedy or recourse whatsoever.

In the end, everyone will be fine and will have learned their custom-crafted lessons ;)

Romans chapter 9, verse 13:

"As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."

Yeah, sure. God "raised me up" to tell all you dumb ass Christians what dumb asses you really are. Every morning I "raise myself up" out of bed (or God does it for me) and my first order of business to give you religitards a hard time. Yeah, that's got to be it.

Of course, this will only wake you up to the modern Christian false teachings and make you return to the REAL Christianity, right? You wouldn't bother to consider the FACTS that an atheist gives you, would you? Nope. Gotta stay a Christian forever, or else or Jeezus will slap your ass into the pit o' hell! Obvious fear of your god is obvious.

Scripture also says "God is Love". Looks like we have a slight massive contradiction, then, yes?

Just like "God so loved the world", yet "friendship with the world is enmity toward God".

If we insist on taking these things at face value, we'll end up drowning in discrepancies.

How humble of you to refer to other human beings as "evil drones."

How can you breathe with a brain so clogged full of shit?

Jude, verse 4:

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

(You understand these are *church* people it's talking about, right? It mentions them being "stains on your love feasts". . .that's communion.)

"Some Christians claim that God predestines people for hell. This concept is never stated directly, although the Bible indicates that God does use evil people to accomplish His purposes. Paul indicates in the book of Romans that evil Pharaoh was 'raised up' to demonstrate God's power. Paul goes on to say that God chose Jacob over his brother Esau, and that He chooses to have mercy on some people over others. John says that God will give the kingdom of Israel to the beast to fulfill His word.

"Jesus indicated that He chose the apostles, including the one who would betray Him. Even Judas, as a worker of evil, was fulfilling part of the redemptive purpose of God. Luke, in the book of Acts indicates that evil Herod and Pontius Pilate, who condemned Jesus, were serving God's purposes.

"Presumably, evil people who are predestined to serve the purposes of God through their evil will eventually go to hell. However, they still possessed free will and would have done evil under any circumstances. So, the Bible indicates that God placed them in history to fulfill His purposes, knowing that they would do evil."

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If he even gives a shit about christians, religion, or atheists. For that matter if he gives a shit about anything on this plant or even exists then maybe. My problem with this thread is, who gives a shit. Lets just move past this "god" bs and try to feed some children or cure disease or something. damn