JP Morgan Losses Grow To 5 Billion | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15817840 Australia 05/20/2012 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Fed has literally printed TRILLIONS to prop up insolvent banks. Why is this tiny little $5B loss even in the news? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8904437 you want the truth for these BS artists to even admit they lost money is the reason why,,, for example when Enron was collapsing at the share holder meeting people eventually got fed up and asked out loud if the CEO was on CRACK see Enron wasnt even losing money till it was finished!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15675402 United States 05/20/2012 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Fed has literally printed TRILLIONS to prop up insolvent banks. Why is this tiny little $5B loss even in the news? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8904437 because it points up that even in spite of all we've been through, these bastards are still up to the same ol' tricks. and, the U.S. Congress is too wimpy to put a muzzle and a short leash on the dogs of Capitalism. |
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CultivatingMass User ID: 15716609 United States 05/20/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Fed has literally printed TRILLIONS to prop up insolvent banks. Why is this tiny little $5B loss even in the news? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8904437 becuase it started as $2 billion. and i highly doubt $5 bn is the correct amount... these fuckers literally live by lying. it's the best weapon in their toolbox |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15675402 United States 05/20/2012 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Fed has literally printed TRILLIONS to prop up insolvent banks. Why is this tiny little $5B loss even in the news? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8904437 becuase it started as $2 billion. and i highly doubt $5 bn is the correct amount... these fuckers literally live by lying. it's the best weapon in their toolbox these guys buy banks, give all the money to their buddies, and then the corporation declares bankruptcy. not bad for a day's work, huh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16369565 United States 05/20/2012 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why would they listen you when they think they are masters of universe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8249699 If world economy crashes because of Obama and his supporters then CEO of all the $2 Trillion plus companies will beg on the streets. So the Giant CEOs have to listen to me. They do not have any other option. My "internet magazine" has more information Than $3 Trillion CEO & World Leaders Read this: "www.dangerous""mother"(.com) Just write the simple url in your browser (remove ") +++++++++++++++== Fuck off. You and these JP Morgan fucks should go to a desert island for the self-absorbed. Fuck your "magazine". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16371064 United States 05/20/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't find the thread, but someone posted that the JP Morgan losses would be 5 billion, then 8, then 10, etc. ... it was a really believable post, thought I saved it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743044 I said it... nobody believed me. Thread: 21 Billion Dollar JPM Derivatives Default - Counterparty? WATCH MONDAY'S MAY 14TH'S FIREWORKS. |
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CultivatingMass User ID: 15716609 United States 05/20/2012 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't find the thread, but someone posted that the JP Morgan losses would be 5 billion, then 8, then 10, etc. ... it was a really believable post, thought I saved it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743044 I said it... nobody believed me. Thread: 21 Billion Dollar JPM Derivatives Default - Counterparty? WATCH MONDAY'S MAY 14TH'S FIREWORKS. dude we are definitely talking about TRILLIONS at risk here. more than 1 trillion dollars. these banksters are liars and they know we would string them by their fuckin necks if the public found out. they are all gaming the economy for their own benefit... very sad times we live in. |
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psyoptics User ID: 14240707 United States 05/20/2012 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't find the thread, but someone posted that the JP Morgan losses would be 5 billion, then 8, then 10, etc. ... it was a really believable post, thought I saved it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10743044 I said it... nobody believed me. Thread: 21 Billion Dollar JPM Derivatives Default - Counterparty? WATCH MONDAY'S MAY 14TH'S FIREWORKS. dude we are definitely talking about TRILLIONS at risk here. more than 1 trillion dollars. these banksters are liars and they know we would string them by their fuckin necks if the public found out. they are all gaming the economy for their own benefit... very sad times we live in. and how does their fractional banking sytem come into play..10%... so if it is 5 billion does it become 50 billion..... if it is 2 trillion is it not really 20 trillion? these theives love just adding a "0" to make it all better until that empty "0" comes to haunt them Last Edited by psyoptics on 05/20/2012 10:25 AM a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12917304 United States 05/20/2012 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That statement right there is stupid enough that I don't want to read the link. The guy has no idea how to explain JPM's options gambling losses if he doesn't understand it wasn't a derivatives marketing project on their part. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15464787 United States 05/20/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of these Cartels have "Leveraged" or spread risk at 100 times the cash value of nearly every "Financial Instrument". The figure is likely 100 times 4 billion? These Financial "Geni-uslesses" need to go hang themselves so that the rest of us wont have to make them do it. It's time to pinch this turd off and flush it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15675402 United States 05/20/2012 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may very well be where the Ponzi system unravels. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15464787 Most of these Cartels have "Leveraged" or spread risk at 100 times the cash value of nearly every "Financial Instrument". The figure is likely 100 times 4 billion? These Financial "Geni-uslesses" need to go hang themselves so that the rest of us wont have to make them do it. It's time to pinch this turd off and flush it. well, i hope you realized that this battle has been going on, now, for the past 150 years. what makes you think that we are any better poised now than our fathers were? |
jannerfish (OP) User ID: 961102 United Kingdom 05/20/2012 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That statement right there is stupid enough that I don't want to read the link. The guy has no idea how to explain JPM's options gambling losses if he doesn't understand it wasn't a derivatives marketing project on their part. Then you've missed a good link. And thanks for the insult. Truth usually provokes one. I think everyone in the thread, including me, has shown they understand leverage. And therefore the implications of a JPM loss. It's not like another company far down the chain losing money. These guys are at the head of the queue for the cash machine. When you're at the back of the queue it's sensible to fear it may run out of cash by the time you get to use it. You (JPM & Friends) have first option on the money AND you still LOSE! what sort of outfit are you running that it performs so poorly in such a uniquely advantageous trading position? A SHIT operation, that's what. Shit in a bag. You call it what you like mate, we all have our fetishes. Across the desert lies the promised land - WW |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15675402 United States 05/20/2012 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all of you little guys have failed to realize that while none of you were paying attention, over the past 50 years, that TPTB have succeeded in completely dismantling the "labor union system" that our fathers fought and shed their blood for to set up in the first half of the 20th century. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15895626 United States 05/20/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is INCORRECT! They can declare the losses on their taxes! I'm trying to find one of those "old articles you keep in the back of your head" because it seems out of place when you read it... I knew this would happen, we should see others declare loses but this isn't because they are doing poorly but rather to declare them on their taxes. Ill be back and post a thread when I find the law or article I was reading. |
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Blue Zeus User ID: 14348632 United States 05/20/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS>> JPMorgan's Potential Trading Loss Just Keeps Spiraling Higher [link to www.businessinsider.com] FROM WSJ: The nation's largest bank has said publicly that its losses on the trades have surpassed $2 billion, and people familiar with the matter have said they could over time reach $5 billion. But the losses could be even bigger if the company sells its positions into a market that has turned against its positions, some traders say.... So the basic issue seems to be: Unwind now and stomach large losses, or wait and hope that things improve. Either way, it's clear that JPMorgan has a live and active problem on its hands. Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15675402 United States 05/20/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This may very well be where the Ponzi system unravels. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15464787 Most of these Cartels have "Leveraged" or spread risk at 100 times the cash value of nearly every "Financial Instrument". The figure is likely 100 times 4 billion? These Financial "Geni-uslesses" need to go hang themselves so that the rest of us wont have to make them do it. It's time to pinch this turd off and flush it. well, i hope you realized that this battle has been going on, now, for the past 150 years. what makes you think that we are any better poised now than our fathers were? |
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