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Paranormal Capabilities and Realities . . . Do they exist?  . . . What do you think?

 
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Does the power they feel they derive from ritual, sacrific and believers' worship exist (is real) or is it psychological . . . is it paranormal or imaginary. . . .if real . . . do you know how this works. . .? hiding2
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It's psychic energy.

An example that I speak of here frequently, which is an example of unconscious use of psychic energy, is 'manifested demons' that some seekers experience when they begin reading the bible. Especially if they pick up an older bible that has been in a family for a long time, and been handled and studied by believers for long durations or with high frequency.

A common (almost exclusive) theme with these 'real demon encounters' is that the 'demon' almost always pushes the person TO christianity, and they obey the name 'jesus'.

This, of course, supports the idea that christianity is 'real' and 'true' and that the spirit that christians invite to possess them is the ultimate power in the universe.

However, the problem with this is that such constant devotion, coupled with the belief in demons that answer exclusively to commands given 'in jesus' name' has CREATED the psychic construct that attacks the seeker.

These psychic constructs are 'real' only in that they interact with the physical world. They are energy created by faith and constant psychic attention to a specific belief. Being mindless, they respond accordingly. They terrorize people with the understanding that they can only cease when the name 'jesus' is invoked (a magic ritual that negates the energy of the summoning of the construct).

So 'real'? Yes, I guess I would have to say that the powers are real, in that manner of speaking. Psychic constructs can be summoned and money can be brought forth from nothing in a world in which we live (where money is less 'real' than demons!).

Electronic money can be made via a simple process of editing numbers in a computer. The way that these rituals work are less obvious than that... mistakes will occur, outcomes of drawings will be changed, things of that nature.

Curses are real, but they rely upon the faith of the recipient in order to function. This is true of many things, including 'demon' psychic constructs.

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It's psychic energy.

An example that I speak of here frequently, which is an example of unconscious use of psychic energy, is 'manifested demons' that some seekers experience when they begin reading the bible. Especially if they pick up an older bible that has been in a family for a long time, and been handled and studied by believers for long durations or with high frequency.

A common (almost exclusive) theme with these 'real demon encounters' is that the 'demon' almost always pushes the person TO christianity, and they obey the name 'jesus'.

This, of course, supports the idea that christianity is 'real' and 'true' and that the spirit that christians invite to possess them is the ultimate power in the universe.

However, the problem with this is that such constant devotion, coupled with the belief in demons that answer exclusively to commands given 'in jesus' name' has CREATED the psychic construct that attacks the seeker.

These psychic constructs are 'real' only in that they interact with the physical world. They are energy created by faith and constant psychic attention to a specific belief. Being mindless, they respond accordingly. They terrorize people with the understanding that they can only cease when the name 'jesus' is invoked (a magic ritual that negates the energy
of the summoning of the construct).

So 'real'? Yes, I guess I would have to say that the powers are real, in that manner of speaking. Psychic constructs can be summoned and money can be brought forth from nothing in a world in which we live (where money is less 'real' than demons!).

Electronic money can be made via a simple process of editing
numbers in a computer. The way that these rituals work are less obvious than that... mistakes will occur, outcomes of drawings will be changed, things of that nature.

Curses are real, but they rely upon the faith of the recipient in order to function. This is true of many things, including 'demon' psychic constructs.
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Very deep . . . I will have to sleep on this one . . . not easy concepts to rap your brain around . . . verycool
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It's psychic energy.

An example that I speak of here frequently, which is an example of unconscious use of psychic energy, is 'manifested demons' that some seekers experience when they begin reading the bible. Especially if they pick up an older bible that has been in a family for a long time, and been handled and studied by believers for long durations or with high frequency.

A common (almost exclusive) theme with these 'real demon encounters' is that the 'demon' almost always pushes the person TO christianity, and they obey the name 'jesus'.

This, of course, supports the idea that christianity is 'real' and 'true' and that the spirit that christians invite to possess them is the ultimate power in the universe.

However, the problem with this is that such constant devotion, coupled with the belief in demons that answer exclusively to commands given 'in jesus' name' has CREATED the psychic construct that attacks the seeker.

These psychic constructs are 'real' only in that they interact with the physical world. They are energy created by faith and constant psychic attention to a specific belief. Being mindless, they respond accordingly. They terrorize people with the understanding that they can only cease when the name 'jesus' is invoked (a magic ritual that negates the energy
of the summoning of the construct).

So 'real'? Yes, I guess I would have to say that the powers are real, in that manner of speaking. Psychic constructs can be summoned and money can be brought forth from nothing in a world in which we live (where money is less 'real' than demons!).

Electronic money can be made via a simple process of editing
numbers in a computer. The way that these rituals work are less obvious than that... mistakes will occur, outcomes of drawings will be changed, things of that nature.

Curses are real, but they rely upon the faith of the recipient in order to function. This is true of many things, including 'demon' psychic constructs.
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So "demons" are psychic energy constructs . . . which are mindless, and follow some set of rules few know or understand. . . .?

If the above is what you are saying. . . .how did you come by this knowledge. . . through observation, intuition or other source?

Would all mental focus or spiritual ritual result in a demonic creation?

Is this the source of the forces used by shaman, warlocks, witches, etc. ?

This is nothing I have come across before. . . very interesting. . . hf
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Good morning all . . . just checking in. . . .early day will be gone most of it. . . please have fun. . . .coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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So "demons" are psychic energy constructs . . . which are mindless, and follow some set of rules few know or understand. . . .?
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Well, I guess I should supply a caveat. They do possess a certain 'intelligence' endowed by their creator. But they are not self-aware, they are insentient.

They follow the rules of the belief of their constructor.

HOWEVER, there are higher rules, and this is one of the reasons why I have had few problems with the 'prayer' attacks of christians now that I have learned the truth about human beings and our inherent natural abilities.

These constructs follow very simple rules most of the time, because most belief in them is very simple. They obey the beliefs of their creators, so it is (for example) unlikely that they will rape or violently and directly assault people. Mostly, they just haunt and terrorize, because most christians who believe in demons subconsciously believe that they are restrained in their interactions with humans by 'god'.

In other cultures, these constructs can kill, based upon the beliefs of both the creator and the attacked.

But that's where inherent, passive, continual human 'magic' comes into play. In a person who doesn't believe in the ability of a curse to kill, even a 'kill intended curse' will fail.

I'll get into this in a few minutes, though, as there is more to that and it's how the 'elite' usurpers kill off humans in droves.

If the above is what you are saying. . . .how did you come by this knowledge. . . through observation, intuition or other source?
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This is information that I was given during my death experiences, and which I have confirmed over the years by research and personal experiences.

Would all mental focus or spiritual ritual result in a demonic creation?

Is this the source of the forces used by shaman, warlocks, witches, etc. ?
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No, not all result in demonic constructs. In fact, attempts to create them fail more than they succeed, and most are accidental or unknowing. It's a natural ability in humans, and rare is it that someone who actually has the latent talent actually takes up attempts to do 'magic'/summoning.

The problem is that few really understand what they're doing, nor do most have actual FAITH.

This is why it's usually accidental/unintentional.

But yes, this is the 'magic' or ability that various self-proclaimed 'magic users' try to tap into. Some with a slight degree of success, most with none at all.

This is nothing I have come across before. . . very interesting. . . hf
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It's because it is hidden knowledge, and there's very little point in telling about it. Who's going to believe me? And what use is it, even if they do? Sadly, it's not necessarily useful knowledge unless a person finds him or her self under siege by one of these constructs.

For example, I helped a young man who believed himself to be haunted by his brother. His brother had nothing to do with it, the young man felt such guilt and pain over the fight that he'd had with his brother, that he manifested a psychic construct that then 'haunted' him according to what he felt he deserved from his brother.

When I helped him to see the loving reminders his brother had been sending all along, the 'haunting' ceased, because he now believed he was forgiven more than he believed he should be haunted by his actions before his brothers' death.

It is really only in these cases in which this information does much good at all.

The information in the next post could be useful, however, but only to someone who doesn't roll his or her eyes and decide that I'm a lunatic. Which is unlikely and thus I have never really bothered to share it before. On the other hand, someone else has written an entire book on the subject, just not from the perspective of "conspiracy theory"... so first I'll link the book and then I'll pontificate. :p
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Alright, first, the book: [link to www.hayhouse.com]

The Spontaneous Healing of Belief by Gregg Braden



This book teaches the basic principle of what Pasteur admitted on his deathbed... it is NOT what goes into the environment that brings ill health, it is THE STATE OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

Pasteur actually recanted his germ theory on his deathbed. Of course, this isn't something the medical establishment cares to share, because they don't care about it... it doesn't aid them.

Pasteur came to realize that some people could be exposed to (for example) botulism and experience not even a blip on their radar. Another person of nearly identical biology can be exposed to it and shit themselves to death. But why?? If germs were the real answer, anyone exposed to it should shit themselves to death, but that's not true.

Gregg Braden exposes why. However, an EVEN BETTER expose of why is Bruce Lipton:

[link to www.youtube.com]



He explains very clearly how BELIEF becomes your health reality. In fact, he goes into clear scientific detail, even telling you what happens inside your body.




So where does this all come into conspiracies?

Well, what does the medical establishment teach you to BELIEVE?

Now put two and two together. We are raised to believe in ill health. We are raised to believe that we are under constant, dangerous siege by 'germs' and we are helpless under their onslaught.

We're taught to have faith in... diabetes; arteriosclerosis; osteoporosis; aging; etc.

So we die to these many maladies, because we are indoctrinated to HAVE FAITH IN THEM and to DIE TO THEM.

This is how the 'magic' works... yes, medical 'professionals' are magicians and high priests, working their magic unwittingly.

All around you this magic is taking place, forming and shaping your beliefs and thus your life.

The number one killer of humans in the USA is DOCTOR ERROR. Then there is a litany of death causes... all predicated upon faith in these 'diseases' having the power to kill. We die because we believe with unshakable faith that aging is inevitable, ill health comes with age, and death comes from ill health.

So yeah. There you go. I know it's probably the most 'far out' thing you've ever heard, and I accept that. But you asked, and you seem like a genuine seeker. According to my spiritual beliefs, I am not allowed to 'throw my pearls before swine' and use truth in petty arguments to try to 'get the win'. On the other hand, when a genuine seeker asks me a question, I am not allowed to refuse an answer.

hf
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All and all I would have to say, No.

Ecclesiastes 9:4 "For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ecclesiastes 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
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Good Morning...busy day today...will POP in OUT as I can!
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All and all I would have to say, No.

Ecclesiastes 9:4 "For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Ecclesiastes 9:6 "Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun."
Ecclesiastes 9:7 "Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works."
- Bible KJV

Another classic example would be when Saul summoned the dead Samuel with the help of the witch, to ask for a prediction and advice. He was told he and his men would die in battle the following day, and they did. I believe it was in fact satan in disguise that appeared to them, since "the dead know not anything". I guess that's what you get for playing with fire.
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Good Morning Paranormal Thread

Note: I just realized this morning I didn't wake up thinking "i am going to die soon" It's all good.

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Good Morning Paranormal Thread

Note: I just realized this morning I didn't wake up thinking "i am going to die soon" It's all good.


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LOL...Well it shall be a good day!
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Since the discussion has now gone to a point where paranormal has mixed with magic, have any of you practiced any? When I was ten I was trained as a celtic wicca by people who I didnt know. They said "I needed to know to protect myself"
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Since the discussion has now gone to a point where paranormal has mixed with magic, have any of you practiced any? When I was ten I was trained as a celtic wicca by people who I didnt know. They said "I needed to know to protect myself"
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Alright, first, the book: [link to www.hayhouse.com]

The Spontaneous Healing of Belief by Gregg Braden



This book teaches the basic principle of what Pasteur admitted on his deathbed... it is NOT what goes into the environment that brings ill health, it is THE STATE OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

Pasteur actually recanted his germ theory on his deathbed. Of course, this isn't something the medical establishment cares to share, because they don't care about it... it doesn't aid them.

Pasteur came to realize that some people could be exposed to (for example) botulism and experience not even a blip on their radar. Another person of nearly identical biology can be exposed to it and shit themselves to death. But why?? If germs were the real answer, anyone exposed to it should shit themselves to death, but that's not true.

Gregg Braden exposes why. However, an EVEN BETTER expose of why is Bruce Lipton:

[link to www.youtube.com]



He explains very clearly how BELIEF becomes your health reality. In fact, he goes into clear scientific detail, even telling you what happens inside your body.

So where does this all come into conspiracies?

Well, what does the medical establishment teach you to BELIEVE?

Now put two and two together. We are raised to believe in ill health. We are raised to believe that we are under constant, dangerous siege by 'germs' and we are helpless under their onslaught.

We're taught to have faith in... diabetes; arteriosclerosis; osteoporosis; aging; etc.

So we die to these many maladies, because we are indoctrinated to HAVE FAITH IN THEM and to DIE TO THEM.

This is how the 'magic' works... yes, medical 'professionals' are magicians and high priests, working their magic unwittingly.

All around you this magic is taking place, forming and shaping your beliefs and thus your life.

The number one killer of humans in the USA is DOCTOR ERROR. Then there is a litany of death causes... all predicated upon faith in these
'diseases' having the power to kill. We die because we believe with unshakable faith that aging is inevitable, ill health comes with age, and death comes from ill health.

So yeah. There you go. I know it's probably the most 'far out' thing you've ever heard, and I accept that. But you asked, and you seem like a genuine seeker. According to my spiritual beliefs, I am not allowed to 'throw my pearls before swine' and use truth in petty arguments to try to 'get the win'. On the other hand, when a genuine seeker asks me a question, I am not allowed to refuse an answer.

hf
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Sandi,

Sounds a bit like the Christian Science Church's take on reality, health, etc. . . the only logical discord I see is if intentions and right thinking create health and one knows that. . . then how does one with this knowledge end up dying of old age or some disease. . . .?? Which they all do. . . I know several individuals who are Christian Scientists. . . .my take is there is a combination of things going on. . . .the will to live is extremely powerful. . . .I know that from being in medicine for 30 years. . . .

I also have seen disease organisms injected into lab animals and they succumb to the disease. . . I think the whole thing is extremely complex . .
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Alright, first, the book: [link to www.hayhouse.com]

The Spontaneous Healing of Belief by Gregg Braden



This book teaches the basic principle of what Pasteur admitted on his deathbed... it is NOT what goes into the environment that brings ill health, it is THE STATE OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

Pasteur actually recanted his germ theory on his deathbed. Of course, this isn't something the medical establishment cares to share, because they don't care about it... it doesn't aid them.

Pasteur came to realize that some people could be exposed to (for example) botulism and experience not even a blip on their radar. Another person of nearly identical biology can be exposed to it and shit themselves to death. But why?? If germs were the real answer, anyone exposed to it should shit themselves to death, but that's not true.

Gregg Braden exposes why. However, an EVEN BETTER expose of why is Bruce Lipton:

[link to www.youtube.com]



He explains very clearly how BELIEF becomes your health reality. In fact, he goes into clear scientific detail, even telling you what happens inside your body.




So where does this all come into conspiracies?

Well, what does the medical establishment teach you to BELIEVE?

Now put two and two together. We are raised to believe in ill health. We are raised to believe that we are under constant, dangerous siege by 'germs' and we are helpless under their onslaught.

We're taught to have faith in... diabetes; arteriosclerosis; osteoporosis; aging; etc.

So we die to these many maladies, because we are indoctrinated to HAVE FAITH IN THEM and to DIE TO THEM.

This is how the 'magic' works... yes, medical 'professionals' are magicians and high priests, working their magic unwittingly.

All around you this magic is taking place, forming and shaping your beliefs and thus your life.

The number one killer of humans in the USA is DOCTOR ERROR. Then there is a litany of death causes... all predicated upon faith in these 'diseases' having the power to kill. We die because we believe with unshakable faith that aging is inevitable, ill health comes with age, and death comes from ill health.

So yeah. There you go. I know it's probably the most 'far out' thing you've ever heard, and I accept that. But you asked, and you seem like a genuine seeker. According to my spiritual beliefs, I am not allowed to 'throw my pearls before swine' and use truth in petty arguments to try to 'get the win'. On the other hand, when a genuine seeker asks me a question, I am not allowed to refuse an answer.

hf
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I think there may well be more who agree with you on this than you know.

I for one hate it when they advertize some disease on TV. Look at the add for being inoculated against shingles. How many people will come down with it simply because it has been drummed into their brain that they had chicken pox and now, guess what.

Other things you mentioned are familiar to me only not in as clear of a explanation as you have given. It seems hints have been given to us through out our lives but, we never put them together.

Kabbalah teaches the tongue is very powerful. It also teaches we make our own demons and much more. So your post didn't fall on deaf ears. coffee4
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Thanks for all your votes. . . .moshpit


POLL: Which of items listed below exist?
1) All of the items listed below exist   48.7% (132)
5) Nine or less of the items below exist   14.8% (40)
6) Twelve or less of the items below exist   14.4% (39)
4) Six or less of the items below exist   8.5% (23)
3) Three or less of the items below exist   7.7% (21)
2) None of the items below exist   5.9% (16)
Blank (View Results) (64)

Non-Blank Votes: 271


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1) Psychokinesis - the ability to move or manipulate objects with the mind 

2) Extra Sensory Perception - the ability to gather information without the use of the 5 senses 

3) Telepathy - the ability to communicate with others with the mind 

4) Clairvoyance - the transfer of information without the use of the senses 

5)  Pyrokinesis - the ability to ignite or extinguish fires with the mind 

6) Psychometry - ability to psychically ďreadĒ information from objects 

7) Precognition - the ability to foresee events. 00%

8) Bilocation - ability to be in two places at the same time 

9) Postcognition - ability to see an event after it has occurred 

10) Astral Projection - the ability to travel distances with the mind alone 

11) Reincarnation - being born again after death 

12) Afterlife: Survival of consciousness after permanent bodily death 

13) Near-death experiences of a none-hallucinating nature 

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Good Morniing All. . . an early day for me again . . hope all is well. . . coffee4
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Everyone, I found this video series about OBEs. . . a how to series. . . I reviewed this first one and though it was reasonable. . .

Take a look and please comment. . . .Thanks!


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Sorry I have to run but will check in later. . . .coffee4

"A) Meditation should be as relaxing and as free as possible. You donít have to sit upright with your legs crossed or in some other funky position. You want to position yourself in a manner that feels natural and comfortable for you. I prefer lying in my bed, on my back, but you can just as easily use a reclining chair. If you do want to try more of a yoga style, then go for it. The bottom line is to approach it in a manner that will allow you to fully relax.

B) Rid your environment of any interruptions. Turn the ringer off on the phone and make sure no one will disturb your session. Itís pretty difficult to become familiar with the twilight zone when someone is blasting the radio or TV in another part of the house.

C) Wear loose clothing. The tighter your clothes, the more distracted you may be. Tight clothes can keep you constantly aware of your physical body. Remember, you want to take as much focus off of your physical environment (including your body) as possible. If itís winter time then be sure to have a blanket handy to keep you warm. As you continue to relax, your body temperature will drop.

D) Once you get into position, begin breathing through your nose and out your mouth- really focus on using your diaphragm to power your breathing- avoid short choppy breaths. The key initially, is to stay somewhat consistent with your breathing style to facilitate your relaxation. As you relax, your breathing may become more shallow- which is fine. You also may resort to mouth breathing or strictly breathing through your nose as you reach even deeper levels of relaxation- this too is ok.

E) Many people become overly concerned with eradicating any stray thoughts from their mind during meditation. The more you focus on the attempt to control your thoughts, the more attentive you stay to them- again defeating the purpose of releasing focus from your physical body and from your physical environment.

Relax about any stray thoughts that enter your mind. Continue to focus on your breathing and just allow your thoughts to come and go without any emotional attachment to them. In doing this, you will be propelled into
deeper and deeper states of relaxation. Once there, your thoughts will automatically take on less and less importance and will eventually cease to flow almost entirely. The key is to resist the temptation to exert control over the experience. Meditation and astral projection are about getting out of the way, so your consciousness can be what it truly is.

F) Do not concern yourself with setting any time limit on your meditation.
For our purposes itís important to again flow with the experience. If at first you are only able to sit still for five minutes- then do that. The more you practice and allow, the longer your meditative states will last. Remember youíre not necessarily meditating to have an OBE, if it happens during your meditation- thatís fantastic!"



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Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Sandi,

Sounds a bit like the Christian Science Church's take on reality, health, etc. . . the only logical discord I see is if intentions and right thinking create health and one knows that. . . then how does one with this knowledge end up dying of old age or some disease. . . .?? Which they all do. . . I know several individuals who are Christian Scientists. . . .my take is there is a combination of things going on. . . .the will to live is extremely powerful. . . .I know that from being in medicine for 30 years. . . .

I also have seen disease organisms injected into lab animals and they succumb to the disease. . . I think the whole thing is extremely complex . .
.coffee4
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Well, let me ask you something. If you were immortal, who would you tell?? Who would you trust not to speak of it to someone else and end you up in a testing laboratory being dissected?

Of course there are several things going on. But one of the biggest is that NO ONE REALLY BELIEVES that immortality is possible.

Honestly, not only do people believe it's not possible, but frankly most people would become unhappy as they watched everyone they love die one after another after another... and have to go on the run to hide that they're not aging and lose loved ones that way... etc.

Being immortal in this world would not be a happy experience, I would think.

Yes, it is certainly very complex, but at the same time, it's not as complex as we try to make it into.

Did you watch the Bruce Lipton series? He goes into scientific detail. As someone who was in the medical profession, I'm sure you would appreciate his discussion on what happens inside the cells in response to belief.
No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

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Sandi,

Sounds a bit like the Christian Science Church's take on reality, health, etc. . . the only logical discord I see is if intentions and right thinking create health and one knows that. . . then how does one with this knowledge end up dying of old age or some disease. . . .?? Which they all do. . . I know several individuals who are Christian Scientists. . . .my take is there is a combination of things going on. . . .the will to live is extremely powerful. . . .I know that from being in medicine for 30 years. . . .

I also have seen disease organisms injected into lab animals and they succumb to the disease. . . I think the whole thing is extremely complex . .
.coffee4
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Well, let me ask you something. If you were immortal, who would you tell?? Who would you trust not to speak of it to someone else and end you up in a testing laboratory being dissected?

Of course there are several things going on. But one of the biggest is that NO ONE REALLY BELIEVES that immortality is possible.

Honestly, not only do people believe it's not possible, but frankly most people would become unhappy as they watched everyone they love die one after another after another... and have to go on the run to hide that they're not aging and lose loved ones that way... etc.

Being immortal in this world would not be a happy experience, I would think.

Yes, it is certainly very complex, but at the same time, it's not as complex as we try to make it into.

Did you watch the Bruce Lipton series? He goes into scientific detail. As someone who was in the medical profession, I'm sure you would appreciate his discussion on what happens inside the cells in response to belief.
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1) It has been known for several years that one can replicate an enzyme which allows cells to replace themselves indefinitely . . . thus replacing the old dead cells which run down after so many mitotic divisions with cells with unlimited capacity. . . . controlling this is the issue . . . cancers are this type of cell growth. . . .

Telomeres and Cellular Aging

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2) So if done properly. . . theoretically, death does not have to occur . . however, as you said above . . . the real question is . . . what kind of life???? . . .

goaway


3) Let me ask you . . . do you know anyone who has lived over 120 years or even 115 years. . . ????


4) The only way to live a good life would be to feign ones death at 35 and assume another idenity . . . repeating the process until one was tired of the whole ordeal. .. .verycool . . . unless everyone else were also living a very long life as well . . . but how would we deal with the massive amount of additional population. . . .yes very, very complex. . . .coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Good Afternoon/Evening...Hope all is well...another long day...I'm SOOOOO TIRED! I have been reading the posts...interesting!!
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Good Afternoon/Evening...Hope all is well...another long day...I'm SOOOOO TIRED! I have been reading the posts...interesting!!
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Good afternoon . . . I read half your book . . . I will most likely finish it today. . . hf
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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I vow to make better use of smilies in the future starting now.


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I vow to make better use of smilies in the future starting now.


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That is a most excellent decision . . . ohno
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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ufo56 Notice how I was in the future now? My timetravel post just is in the past now. lol
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If you want to stick your positives in time, think past, present and future now. verycool
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Good Afternoon/Evening...Hope all is well...another long day...I'm SOOOOO TIRED! I have been reading the posts...interesting!!
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I sent you a PM . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B

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