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Everyone's a mind reader but you

 
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Alright, I've been watching this thread, and I've said if it's real, it's fascinating. And if it's fake, it woud make for great fiction.

Now, the OP was anonymous. Then a guy named High Stoner said he was the OP. Then a guy named Exiled Reader said he was High Stoner. Now another guy named Arbitrary Walls is claiming he's not the OP, but another "reader" who was "disconnected."

Is this real, psyop, or has one man's fiction turned into a collaborative writing project?

Either way, this is some fascinating stuff, especially about readers playing mind games, and some of these comparisons to people with other impairments.
 Quoting: Cemetery Hill


This is real.

High Stoner was my old handle now it's ExiledReader.

This thread is a great collaboration of ideas and information but it isnt collaborative fiction.

I've dropped everything and have been traveling
cross country, looking for a place out of the hive's reach and have found it difficult to post lately.

I'm exhausted now but will post more later.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


If you're real, I'm sorry you're having these problems. I do know what it's like. Being targetted by the "hive" or wwhatever you want to call it, is no laughing matter.

I believe in the phenomena but I don't believe what I am being told about it in this thread. It contradicts personal experience. First as a "hive" member you are a tool, merely a vessel which believes whatever it is told. For example, the hive is basically benign, as a member you are superior to nonmembers, it is better not to separate yourselves from the hive, nonreaders should not have the same rights as readers, it is OK to "hate" them for it if somehow they manage to succeed despite their disability (you POV), etc.

Fact of the matter is you are a low-level clone and drone. That is why Arbitrary Walls presented basically the same story as High Stoner/Exiled Reader. You may be two different posters but you think the same because the hive determines what you think, say and do. The time has come for you to evolve and come into your own power and learn the deeper truths of the hive, those truths which the "hive" was withholding. You will not be alone in this although it will feel that way much of the time. There is a higher connectivity.

By now you probably know the hive is not as benign as it appears. You say you're travelling. Have you been forced of the road yet by insane drivers deliberately attempting to create VMA's? Three times in one weekend for me, the last resulting in a collision which totalled my vehicle. Oddly, the driver at fault was able to drive off in his, making it a hit and run.

You are not powerless. I have actually been able to influence the minds of low-level drones. I don't know how it worked because it was never done deliberately or consciously on my part. Perhaps they simply had a weak link at that moment in time. I don't care for this kind of control because I consider it a violation of a person's sovereignty. Apparently this is not an ethical consideration for the "hive".

I read body language, voice cues, etc. Use deliberate "shock" techniques to draw them out of their "trance" state. But you have to quickly spot what is going on. As a former reader that should be no problem for you as you would be up on their tricks. I took me a long time to learn and I'm still learning and slow to the draw.

You do not respond to me like you do other posters. Perhaps you are not anywhere near the truth of your situation. You still seem to be defending the "hive". More likely you're just a fraud, still under control of the "hive" and on a mission unbeknownst to your conscious self, merely the illusion of being disconnected but being influenced by the "hive" on a deeper level. You're not to be trusted.
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Alright, so I take it the OP created an account as High Stoner then changed his name to Exiled Reader. Got it.

Arbitrary Walls seems similar, but with a different writing style, so I'm guessing he's someone else.

Now, there have been three prominent anon Canadians.

The first, early in the thread, said he was a non-reader who was unaware of this before this posting, but it all makes sense to him.

The second said he's been aware of the hive for the past 20 years, though didn't have all the details until this thread.

The third says this is all a psyop, but then switches and says some people are connected to this hive but only a small minority, nowhere near 90%. But then he says he's had experience with the hive trying to get him, and how all of these people are drones. So what percent of the population then would be hive drones?

Anyway, good read regardless.
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I read body language, voice cues, etc. Use deliberate "shock" techniques to draw them out of their "trance" state. But you have to quickly spot what is going on. As a former reader that should be no problem for you as you would be up on their tricks. I took me a long time to learn and I'm still learning and slow to the draw.

You do not respond to me like you do other posters. Perhaps you are not anywhere near the truth of your situation. You still seem to be defending the "hive". More likely you're just a fraud, still under control of the "hive" and on a mission unbeknownst to your conscious self, merely the illusion of being disconnected but being influenced by the "hive" on a deeper level. You're not to be trusted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7375740


I know those questions are for the OP, as I'm not a reader by any means and don't know what to make of all this.

Let me ask you, though, what are some "shock" techniques you use when being attacked by hive drones? How many people around us do you believe are drones? And if you're a non-reader, how did you find out about all of this?

Do you think ExiledReader and Arbitary Walls are still drones, unconsciously led by the hive for some vile purpose they're not even aware of?
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I've dropped everything and have been traveling
cross country, looking for a place out of the hive's reach and have found it difficult to post lately.

I'm exhausted now but will post more later.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


OP, where are some areas that have less hive control?

If 90% of the total population are readers, does that mean 90% of any given population are readers, or are there some areas that have considerably more non-readers.

In other words, are there some places where non-readers are more than 10% of the local population in that area?
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The internet and Wikipedia would not have succeeded with only ten per cent of the population having a real use for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


I never said the Internet and Wikipedia were limited only to non-readers. Far from it. Readers use them too. The blind can enjoy listening to the radio, and it doesn't require being able to see. Does that mean most radio listeners are blind??

But the spirit which pioneered Wikipedia, and indeed the internet as a whole, were done mainly by non-readers.

Bottom line, if roughly 90 per cent had been readers since the beginning of time, language would never have developed let alone the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


You seem to be thinking of the noosphere as something like a sci-fi movie where a bunch of aliens carry on full-blown conversations without ever moving their mouthes. That's NOT what the noosphere is.

It's thoughts, emotions, ideas, feelings being conveyed with ease between to people via a mental link. Not simply verbally, or through physical gestures. There is an additional component, but it's difficult to articulate to someone who's never been connected. But it's not straight telepathy like in some movie.


And survival of the fittest would have seen to it that nonreaders would not have survived and consistently passed on the genetic tendency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


If you don't like my analogies, that's fine. But I don't think you get it, or bothered to read them.

Has survival of the fittest prevented a minority of people from still being born blind? Or deaf? Or mentally retarded?, etc. Based on your logic, there should be no genetic defects whatsoever.

Some people will be born blind, at any given point in the human timeline, even if both their parents have sight. The same is true with being a non-reader. It just happens, just as some people happen to be born blind, or deaf, or retarded, etc.

It does not surprise me that most politicians are low level readers. It does not take a reader to see through their tripe. Yet the readers, assuming they are 90 per cent of the population, vote in the biggest crooks. This is what a hive mind mentally does. It's the readers who do not understand and only think they do. You are not capable of independent thought. As a consequence readers are a morally and ethically challenged lot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


You're assuming all readers think the same. They don't! Do people who speak the same language and share ideas verbally always agree with each other?? No. The noosphere is an extra layer of mental communication, but it's not a computer mainframe wherein all computers do what the master computer tells them. That's what you fail to understand.
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Same poster as above. To the OP et al: If you were being real about being an exiled reader who is being harassed by readers, you would be posing scenarios and asking me how to deal with them here. I am that experienced nonreader whom you claim you wish to learn from. I can only conclude that the OP (and the other two) are making much out of nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


The OP had the balls to make this info public, which inspired me to join in. It's for non-readrs to learn.

If you feel you understand, great. I don't think you know as much as you'd like to beleive, but I don't know.

I'm no longer really being harassed by anyone. I've been exiled longer than the OP. I went through hell, didn't know how to deal. I headed to the mountains and tried to lay low for a while. Then I accepted my lot and just do my best to live day-to-day. I don't need your advice, but I'm sorry if you feel you're being harassed.
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I read body language, voice cues, etc. Use deliberate "shock" techniques to draw them out of their "trance" state. But you have to quickly spot what is going on. As a former reader that should be no problem for you as you would be up on their tricks. I took me a long time to learn and I'm still learning and slow to the draw.

You do not respond to me like you do other posters. Perhaps you are not anywhere near the truth of your situation. You still seem to be defending the "hive". More likely you're just a fraud, still under control of the "hive" and on a mission unbeknownst to your conscious self, merely the illusion of being disconnected but being influenced by the "hive" on a deeper level. You're not to be trusted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7375740


I know those questions are for the OP, as I'm not a reader by any means and don't know what to make of all this.

Let me ask you, though, what are some "shock" techniques you use when being attacked by hive drones? How many people around us do you believe are drones? And if you're a non-reader, how did you find out about all of this?

Do you think ExiledReader and Arbitary Walls are still drones, unconsciously led by the hive for some vile purpose they're not even aware of?
 Quoting: Cemetery Hill


I've answered all of this questions in previous posts.
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I've dropped everything and have been traveling
cross country, looking for a place out of the hive's reach and have found it difficult to post lately.

I'm exhausted now but will post more later.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


OP, where are some areas that have less hive control?

If 90% of the total population are readers, does that mean 90% of any given population are readers, or are there some areas that have considerably more non-readers.

In other words, are there some places where non-readers are more than 10% of the local population in that area?
 Quoting: Cemetery Hill


I'd like to know these answers as well.
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Watch: Through the Wormhole S02 E05 titled: "Is there a sixth sense?"

you can talk about it. i think that part of your post is nonsense.
Every one picks up "psychic" signals all the time, the hard part is being conscious of it.
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The internet and Wikipedia would not have succeeded with only ten per cent of the population having a real use for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


I never said the Internet and Wikipedia were limited only to non-readers. Far from it. Readers use them too. The blind can enjoy listening to the radio, and it doesn't require being able to see. Does that mean most radio listeners are blind??

But the spirit which pioneered Wikipedia, and indeed the internet as a whole, were done mainly by non-readers.

Bottom line, if roughly 90 per cent had been readers since the beginning of time, language would never have developed let alone the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


You seem to be thinking of the noosphere as something like a sci-fi movie where a bunch of aliens carry on full-blown conversations without ever moving their mouthes. That's NOT what the noosphere is.

It's thoughts, emotions, ideas, feelings being conveyed with ease between to people via a mental link. Not simply verbally, or through physical gestures. There is an additional component, but it's difficult to articulate to someone who's never been connected. But it's not straight telepathy like in some movie.


And survival of the fittest would have seen to it that nonreaders would not have survived and consistently passed on the genetic tendency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


If you don't like my analogies, that's fine. But I don't think you get it, or bothered to read them.

Has survival of the fittest prevented a minority of people from still being born blind? Or deaf? Or mentally retarded?, etc. Based on your logic, there should be no genetic defects whatsoever.

Some people will be born blind, at any given point in the human timeline, even if both their parents have sight. The same is true with being a non-reader. It just happens, just as some people happen to be born blind, or deaf, or retarded, etc.

It does not surprise me that most politicians are low level readers. It does not take a reader to see through their tripe. Yet the readers, assuming they are 90 per cent of the population, vote in the biggest crooks. This is what a hive mind mentally does. It's the readers who do not understand and only think they do. You are not capable of independent thought. As a consequence readers are a morally and ethically challenged lot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


You're assuming all readers think the same. They don't! Do people who speak the same language and share ideas verbally always agree with each other?? No. The noosphere is an extra layer of mental communication, but it's not a computer mainframe wherein all computers do what the master computer tells them. That's what you fail to understand.
 Quoting: Arbitrary Walls


We may not be talking about the same thing. Perhaps it goes back to you definition of the noosphere versus mine. I think of the noosphere as a higher connectivity which you apparently do not have. From what you have said (and I have read every one of your posts carefully) you are experiencing a hive mind and as such you are apparently unable to relate to my POV as much as I am, according to you, unable to relate to your POV. As such it is pointless to carry on further discussion with each other. Peace be with you in your travels.
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Same poster as above. To the OP et al: If you were being real about being an exiled reader who is being harassed by readers, you would be posing scenarios and asking me how to deal with them here. I am that experienced nonreader whom you claim you wish to learn from. I can only conclude that the OP (and the other two) are making much out of nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19045592


The OP had the balls to make this info public, which inspired me to join in. It's for non-readrs to learn.

If you feel you understand, great. I don't think you know as much as you'd like to beleive, but I don't know.

I'm no longer really being harassed by anyone. I've been exiled longer than the OP. I went through hell, didn't know how to deal. I headed to the mountains and tried to lay low for a while. Then I accepted my lot and just do my best to live day-to-day. I don't need your advice, but I'm sorry if you feel you're being harassed.
 Quoting: Arbitrary Walls


That was not adressed to you but to the OP who claimed he or she wanted to learn from the experience of nonreaders.
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Watch: Through the Wormhole S02 E05 titled: "Is there a sixth sense?"

you can talk about it. i think that part of your post is nonsense.
Every one picks up "psychic" signals all the time, the hard part is being conscious of it.
 Quoting: Dao


I totally agree about everyone picking up psychic signals. Are you familiar with Dean Radin's work? It's just that the OP seemed to make it out to be much more than that. That there was this big secret that was kept from 10 per cent of the population throughout time. That the ability could be cancelled in those who did not keep the secret as a punitive measure. I never could quite see what the big deal was, if nearly everyone already knew? Even the title of this thread and tone of the inital post suggest some sort of psyop on the part of people who think they are exceptional and superior by allegedly being readers. IMHO I think the OP is watering down their initial position. According to the latest description I would be a reader too. Will watch your link when I have more time.
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The whole story about readers and such is worthy of a series of books/movies. you could make good money OP.
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I don't know if this will apply to you since you were once a reader and therefore readers would probably treat you with more deference. Readers are very easily offended even when no slight is given. Just that fact that you are happy, free, master of your domain and at peace will irk them.



Reply to AC 18343592:

Deferance? Not the slightest bit. Perhaps if I would have stopped talking about all of this after telling one person, then maybe I would be treated with a little more respect or at least with pity. Instead I have chosen to spread the truth far and wide and as a result am now treated as an enemy.

First my friends and now my family have all turned against me.

I was recently fired from my job for being late multiple times.

The Hive constantly organizes itself to place me in the last in line everywhere I go and to block my every move.

So I have basically dropped everything, moved out of my apartment in the midwest and am now basically on the run...

but there is no escape.

Everywhere I turn there is another drone of the 90%.

It isn't easy. As I have limited means I am always forced back to the realization that unless I figure out a way to survive in the wild I will always have to return to work for the Hive.

They'll never allow me to function as a hive member or to have access to the Noosphere ever again but they have communicated to me that they will stop their efforts to hinder my surival if I just destroy the manuscript of my full version of events, delete my blog, and walk away from this thread.

But it isn't worth it. I could never serve the Hive again knowing what I know. They will seek to control every aspect of my life to insure that I never speak out again.

Not even if they were to allow me to return to having full access to the Noosphere would I stop spreading this message.
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If anyone is interested in following along with any of my experiences or would like any more information you can go to www.atmosphereofthought.com. I'll also continue to answer questions and update this thread as long as it's still here.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


I'll pop over for a read now and then. But I don't post at sites where I have to register. Is there a particular problem you are having with your former "associates"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18343592


Thanks for pointing that out, I changed it so that you can post anonymously now.

The particulars are hard to point out. If you were with me and I tried to point out a behavior or tactic that a reader is using on me that moment then the readers would immediately change their tactics so that it would make me look insane to any non-reader I might try to show.

Something strange is that I never remember taking part in gang stalking or any of the other bizarre behaviors that the hive is currently employing against me.

But I probably took part without even knowing...

I now realize that a larger amount of low-level readers than I thought previously are simply controlled by higher intelligences in the hive all while believing their actions are their own.
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Is your reliance on non verbal communication the reason you spell like a third grader?
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If anyone is interested in following along with any of my experiences or would like any more information you can go to www.atmosphereofthought.com. I'll also continue to answer questions and update this thread as long as it's still here.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


I'll pop over for a read now and then. But I don't post at sites where I have to register. Is there a particular problem you are having with your former "associates"?
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Thanks for pointing that out, I changed it so that you can post anonymously now.

The particulars are hard to point out. If you were with me and I tried to point out a behavior or tactic that a reader is using on me that moment then the readers would immediately change their tactics so that it would make me look insane to any non-reader I might try to show.

Something strange is that I never remember taking part in gang stalking or any of the other bizarre behaviors that the hive is currently employing against me.

But I probably took part without even knowing...

I now realize that a larger amount of low-level readers than I thought previously are simply controlled by higher intelligences in the hive all while believing their actions are their own.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


I believe you. My heart goes out to you. I know exactly what you are talking about. When being used by the higher intelligence a reader is often not aware. I've experienced it personally many times followed by confrontation on my part and denial on theirs. People just don't remember what they said or did although it happened minutes ago. Witnesses do not recall seeing what they must have seen. If you are on the wrong side of this phenomenon, life can be very difficult.

For example, once I was writing about some one who is powerful and important in what you call the noosphere. A person walks by and utters in a deep voice which is not their usual voice: "None of that is true" and "You are going to die". First, there was the matter of how did they know what I was typing at the computer. Second, it was nothing but the truth. So I replied: "Why would you say that?" Their reponse in their normal voice: "I did not say anything." But I could tell by the surprised look on a bystander's face that they had also heard.
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We may not be talking about the same thing. Perhaps it goes back to you definition of the noosphere versus mine. I think of the noosphere as a higher connectivity which you apparently do not have. From what you have said (and I have read every one of your posts carefully) you are experiencing a hive mind and as such you are apparently unable to relate to my POV as much as I am, according to you, unable to relate to your POV. As such it is pointless to carry on further discussion with each other. Peace be with you in your travels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2572845


I'm not sure that post was addressed to you or a different Canadian fellow, unless you're the same guy and your user ID changed, I'm not sure. But I think it was for someone else.

By all means, I'd like to hear more about your experiences, feel free to share. And as I said, I no longer have the higher connectivity.

I don't think anything is pointless. I'd like to hear your POV and what you feel is happening to you, and why.
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I’d like to talk about a coupe of famous people from history in this reader/non-reader dynamic. The first was a reader who was given the ability to “switch off” the noosphere, while still having the ability to “turn it back on” at will. The second was a non-reader who was given access to the network later in life.

Benjamin Franklin was very much a reader. Tying in with the experiments which culminated in an American Revolution, prominent members of the hive mind chose Franklin as an individual who could perhaps bridge some sort of divide between readers and non-readers. It’s kind of like how in the late 1950s/early 1960s a white man went undercover as a black man, using injections and makeup to appear black, and he went around the rural southern USA. He was a member of the majority, but tried to live like the minority. Franklin, though the situation was more complex, and he had more control, essentially did the same thing.

When people study Ben Franklin, especially non-readers, they usually focus on his introspective writings, his literary and almanac publications, and his inventions. All of his creativity came from his deliberate disconnection with the noosphere and forcing himself to be more creative when disconnected. Of course, he had the luxury of tuning back in whenever he so desired. A lot of non-readers overlook his social life. He was very socially astute, and when socializing, he would tune back in to the noosphere. He was a ladies man, and diplomat, and social butterfly when connected. His ingenuity mainly came from the times he chose to disconnect. In fact, when mingling with the great leaders of Europe, all of whom were readers, they would be fascinated to learn of his novel experience of being disconnected from the hive mind. However, he’d have to remain connected while interacting with them, not only for the sake of easy communication, but because they would have assumed he was trying to be deceptive had he turned off his connection while in their presence.


His “genius” is in actuality his ability to connect and disconnect with the noosphere at will, and all of the benefits that came from both worlds. As a reader alone, he probably wouldn’t have been as resourceful and creative. As a non-reader, he wouldn’t have made much of a good diplomat and statesman during the revolution. And he was respected and admired because of the novelty of his duality, selective reader/non-reader.
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Samuel Langhorne Clemens, aka Mark Twain, was sort of the opposite of Ben Franklin. He spent most of his life as a non-reader, and was made aware of the noosphere much later in life. Although this isn’t unheard of, it’s still pretty rare for someone to become connected so much later in life.

Anyway, much of Twain’s writing and his young adulthood centered on his confusion with humanity. His listlessness that took him out west, his disdain for slavery, his horror at witnessing the ills of Civil War, all led him to greatly ponder what was wrong with humanity, and why others around him behaved the way they did and couldn’t think like he did. The fact that he didn’t know about the noosphere is precisely what allowed him to do this. He didn’t know why others behaved as they did, because he didn’t know about the noosphere. But this ignorance allowed him to formulate his own “outside the box” approach. His wit and his writing style was found to be endearing by many readers and non-readers alike. Part of his style was observational, and then creating characters based on what he’d observed in others, never fully understanding that they were connected to a network to which he was oblivious.

Because of his popularity as a writer, later in life, a decision was made to make him aware of the noosphere, to see what impact it would have. This is where things get interesting. When he first became connected, he essentially became one of the “beautiful people” overnight. Like with Ben Franklin, many prominent readers wanted to learn of his experiences as a non-reader. And once connected, Twain relished in what he’d been missing for much of his life. He loved being able to connect with the same people he would have formerly held in contempt. He traveled the world, loved meeting with the czar of Russia, fraternizing with the Princess of Belgium, etc. He lived in Manhattan and attended many socialite functions. He received honorary degrees, and loved the pomp and circumstance. Essentially, he became very different from the introspective, witty, facetiously-cynical man he had been most of his life.

However, after the euphoria wore off, depression set in. First, he felt resentful for not having been connected like everyone else form the start. Then he felt angered for being kept in the dark. Next, he felt foolish, seeing that much of his former thoughts and opinions which led him to write in the first place were based on a lack of a crucial piece of the puzzle that was the noosphere. He began to wish he’d never been made aware. Ultimately, he came to the conclusion that he wished the noosphere didn’t exist. Not just that he didn’t know about it, he truly wished that no one had such an ability and wanted to live in a world where no one was a reader.

His later writings confirm much of this. He became a very tormented man, and it shows. Interestingly, he wrote an autobiography around 1900 which was to be released 100 years later. This autobiography discussed much of his experience with having been a former non-reader who became connected. It was deliberately not to be published for a century precisely because of all of this information. 100 years later, higher-ups in the noosphere decided it would be too revealing to non-readers and might jeopardize the development of child readers, so it’s never been published in its entirety. Oh, excerpts are available, but nothing concrete about the noosphere. It was deliberately censored.

It’s also no coincidence that he was born when Haley’s Comet appeared, and died when it reappeared 75 years later.
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Is your reliance on non verbal communication the reason you spell like a third grader?
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lol, I post from my phone sometimes and make typos here and there. Also, I originally posted as an AC so am unable to go back and edit...

And yes I did rely on the telepathic ability more than I realized when I was still connected to the hive.

I know it sounds like I'm making a bunch of excuses but since being exiled my mind has been pretty fried.
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The whole story about readers and such is worthy of a series of books/movies. you could make good money OP.
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Thank you very much! That is kind of you to suggest but it is important for me to point out that this is not a work of fiction and not about money. Although I have been thinking lately that I should try to get this story out there in other forms. In order to do so I'd have to find a non-reader to publish my manuscript otherwise I'll just self publish or put it online, same thing with film, I'd have to somehow find non-readers to look at the story.

Things have been changing quickly and the hive has really picked up their pace in attacks.

Seems their most effective tactic that they always fall back on is to exhaust me in every way they can and to consume as much of my time as possible.

The hive organizes itself the best in large cities, particularly ones with well organized grids. So it became necessary for me to leave Chicago where I was living previously.

To make a long story short, I'll tell more about it all very soon, I made an attempt to hack back into the Noosphere this past week and things didn't go so well.

Now my plan is to get the message out in other forms like you've suggested.
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Hey buddy, nice to see this thread still going.

I feel like this hasn't been asked or answered, is there anyway for non-readers to construct mental blocks so that readers can't see what we're thinking?
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The whole story about readers and such is worthy of a series of books/movies. you could make good money OP.
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Thank you very much! That is kind of you to suggest but it is important for me to point out that this is not a work of fiction and not about money. Although I have been thinking lately that I should try to get this story out there in other forms. In order to do so I'd have to find a non-reader to publish my manuscript otherwise I'll just self publish or put it online, same thing with film, I'd have to somehow find non-readers to look at the story.

Things have been changing quickly and the hive has really picked up their pace in attacks.

Seems their most effective tactic that they always fall back on is to exhaust me in every way they can and to consume as much of my time as possible.

The hive organizes itself the best in large cities, particularly ones with well organized grids. So it became necessary for me to leave Chicago where I was living previously.

To make a long story short, I'll tell more about it all very soon, I made an attempt to hack back into the Noosphere this past week and things didn't go so well.

Now my plan is to get the message out in other forms like you've suggested.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


How does one go about hacking back into the "noosphere"?

Thank you for your story about Samuel Clemens. According to you, he was a nonreader who was invited to be a reader. This means he had the abilities required but had been blocked but not of his own volition. That is, he was not handicapped, simply locked out until later in life. Eventually he resented having been shut out because he felt his writing would have been so much better for the exposure. Is there any site where I can read segments of the post block unpublished work? Why would he have been locked out? Who would decide such a thing?

Do you think there is job discrimination against nonreaders? They might land the job because of better qualifications and experience but then fail to advance being a nonreader among readers.

Thank you so much for taking time to answer. I have many more questions which I will leave for some other time.
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Well, let me tell ya a little story,
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If anyone is interested in following along with any of my experiences or would like any more information you can go to www.atmosphereofthought.com. I'll also continue to answer questions and update this thread as long as it's still here.
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I'll pop over for a read now and then. But I don't post at sites where I have to register. Is there a particular problem you are having with your former "associates"?
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Thanks for pointing that out, I changed it so that you can post anonymously now.

The particulars are hard to point out. If you were with me and I tried to point out a behavior or tactic that a reader is using on me that moment then the readers would immediately change their tactics so that it would make me look insane to any non-reader I might try to show.

Something strange is that I never remember taking part in gang stalking or any of the other bizarre behaviors that the hive is currently employing against me.

But I probably took part without even knowing...

I now realize that a larger amount of low-level readers than I thought previously are simply controlled by higher intelligences in the hive all while believing their actions are their own.
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I believe you. My heart goes out to you. I know exactly what you are talking about. When being used by the higher intelligence a reader is often not aware. I've experienced it personally many times followed by confrontation on my part and denial on theirs. People just don't remember what they said or did although it happened minutes ago. Witnesses do not recall seeing what they must have seen. If you are on the wrong side of this phenomenon, life can be very difficult.

For example, once I was writing about some one who is powerful and important in what you call the noosphere. A person walks by and utters in a deep voice which is not their usual voice: "None of that is true" and "You are going to die". First, there was the matter of how did they know what I was typing at the computer. Second, it was nothing but the truth. So I replied: "Why would you say that?" Their reponse in their normal voice: "I did not say anything." But I could tell by the surprised look on a bystander's face that they had also heard.
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No, you still can't post without registering. Or I'm missing something ... sorry.
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Well, let me tell ya a little story,
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Nice twist to the plot there. I didn't expect that ending.
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Thank you for your story about Samuel Clemens. According to you, he was a nonreader who was invited to be a reader. This means he had the abilities required but had been blocked but not of his own volition. That is, he was not handicapped, simply locked out until later in life. Eventually he resented having been shut out because he felt his writing would have been so much better for the exposure. Is there any site where I can read segments of the post block unpublished work? Why would he have been locked out? Who would decide such a thing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2711166


You quoted the OP, but since I told you about Mark Twain, I think the question was addressed to me.

First, he didn't necessarily think his writing would be much better. Quite the contrary, he probably would not have been as creative a writer. His lack of understanding about the noosphere coupled with his observing and questioning human behavior is what made him so creative and successful in the first place. Had he been connected from the get-go, he may not have even pursued writing. His anguish came from the fact that he realized that due to the existence and prevelance of the noosphere, this network would always exist, and all of his understanding/misunderstanding about people revolved around the noosphere and most of his life as a non-reader. He wished the noosphere itself wasn't real, after he became aware of how very real it is.

As far as his abilities and lack of development, I'll give an analogy as best I can:

Birds are not mammals. Whereas a female mammal will menstrate and have a period if she isn't pregnant, a female bird will simply lay eggs regardless of whether or not she's had sex and her eggs have been fertilized. (Most chicken eggs from the store are actually unfertilized)

Now, if an egg is unfertilized, it will never hatch, obviously. If an egg has been fertilized, and a baby bird is developing within, it most likely will hatch into a chick. Sometimes, however, fertilized eggs don't hatch. The baby bird within simply dies. There are numerous reasons why.

Now, suppose you had a bird, like a chicken hen, and you noticed one of its eggs hadn't hatched. Putting it under the light, you see it is indeed fertilized, and developing embryo is inside, but for whatever reason, it hasn't hatched.

If you get involved, and bring in an incumbator, it's possible that you can nurse the egg along, and the chick will hatch, even if it wouldn't have done so naturally.

The point of all this:

Readers connected to the noosphere are like eggs that hatched naturally.

Many non-readers are like unfertilized eggs that can never hatch.

But some non-readers are like Mark Twain. They didn't "hatch" of their own accord. But by using an "incubator," if the material is there, they are able to come around to the noosphere later in life, even if it didn't happen naturally.

The metaphorical "incubator" in this sense is actually powerful individuals within the noosphere deciding to "turn on" a non-reader who has the material, but has been blocked out.

As far as why Twain as an individual was locked out probably rests on several factors. In his case, mainly, it was probably a fear that his inquisitiveness may pose a threat OR the existence of the noosphere would have been too much for his intellect to handle. It may also be physical, as in his noosphere "parts" were there but not fully functional.

The autobiography may have been published in fragments, but the bulk of the work dealing with the noosphere will never be published and isn't available anywhere.
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The OP and I are fairly rare in that we were readers who were disconnected. It’s not a common occurrence by any means. Someone here mentioned deathbed confessions, and this sort of ties in with the rarity of being disconnected from the network.

There was a case, as best as I can recall now that I’m an ex-reader, that took place in either Kansas or Oklahoma in the 1950s. There was a husband and wife, both of whom were readers, and they had a teenage son who was a non-reader. Though both parents were distraught, they agreed there was nothing they could do, and wanted the best for their son.

At some point after they realized their son would remain a non-reader, the husband was involved in a major car accident. He was left bedridden, and the prognosis was that he’d probably succumb to his injuries. He decided to use his remaining time to fill his son in on the noosphere. He figured since he’d be dead soon, it wouldn’t matter if he himself was disconnected.

The son didn’t take it well at all. He had a breakdown, and then tried to discuss the noosphere with a neighbor boy who was 8 years old. This is when the higher-ups became alarmed and the son was committed to an asylum. The father was punished by being disconnected from the noosphere, just as the OP and I were.

The “good” news, if you can call it that, is that the father made a full recovery, almost miraculous, from the injuries that were thought to be terminal. His wife, who had stuck by him believing he wasn’t long for this world, then came to openly hate him. She could no longer “connect” with him since his exile from the noosphere. Moreover, she resented him for what he did to their son, now institutionalized for not being able to handle the knowledge that he was a non-reader and for jeopardizing the growth and development of a neighbor child.

The man himself was run out of town, and wherever he went, the readers knew who he was. He also suffered group stalking and all of the petty nonsense that goes with being exiled. Ultimately it didn’t end well for him, and he took his own life.

This is an Aesop fable of sorts for readers as to what happens when one breaks the cardinal rule and divulges information of the noosphere. It can also be a fable for the exiled readers, such as the OP and myself. Personally, I will not be bullied into submission like this man was, and I will not let them get to me. I hope OP can do the same.

Hang in there OP, you're not the only one.
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Oddly, I'm a nonreader who is being treated like an exiled reader who is talking by the noosphere. I suppose I should go through this thread and list all the posts which were mine. I'm a Canadian AC whose numbers change but I'm not the only Canadian AC in this thread. Thanks everybody for your comments. I hope the OP is alright.

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