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Everyone's a mind reader but you

 
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To above,

I'm sorry to hear of you bizarre experience, especially since you've never been connected.

As far as discussing it openly, the age group you mentioned is indeed the most likely to ever say anything aloud. 10-12 is an age when most (will be) readers really start to get the sense that SOMETHING is there, but they're still a year or two away from being fully brought in.

As far as the religious man, what made him ask you that question? Was it in passing? Had you said anything about people in general that lead to such a question? Was it out of the blue? He may have been trying to read you, or perhaps he is another non-reader who wondered if you experienced the same things he did. It's interesting that you mentioned lying and telling him no. Non-readers are indeed conditioned to think any such talk is "crazy." This is to keep them further in the dark and from asking questions. And the readers won't tell you anything, and if you ask, most will roll their eyes or quickly say such things are crazy. I guess you're answer was part of your conditioning.

Often times, non-readers in the 10% will flock together without ever realizing why. Oh, they know they're different from others, but they don't know why, and so non-readers end up befriending one another by default as the 90% may reject them.

As far as your mother, if you feel you're really in danger you probably shouldn't ask her anything flat out. But perhaps you should test the waters a little and say, "gee mom, I wonder why I'm so out-of-step with others. Any ideas?" See how she reacts. If she was anything like my mother to my non-reader brother, she'll probably (nervously) say something like, "oh, dear, you're just different, but you're a normal person."

If, however, you're mother inquires further about what you mean and doesn't try to convince you everything is fine, or that you're special, dig a little deeper.
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By mind reader I mean that people are aware of an internet-like connection between each other which they use to share information. Most people are aware of this, even people you might consider of less intelligence than yourself. You'd be very surprised at just how many people are in on this.

You've had the sense that everyone is in on something but you couldnt' put your ifnger on it. It seems at times that people know things about you they couldn't possibly know.

but why hasn't any one told you?

No one is allowed to talk about it. People can only communicate about it with their mental connection. Around age 12 or so is the time when people become fully aware of this ability then other people, usually family, are the ones to let them in on it so they don't think they are going crazy. When one becomes aware, that person also becomes fully aware of the cardinal rule that they can never ever talk about this ability. The consequence of talking about this ability is that the connection will be severed and they will be forced to live like the people who aren't aware, such as yourself, and will be limited to the lower forms of communication.

The reason why this can never be spoken about or written about or communicated in any other way than through the connection is because it will absolutely stunt the growth of the younger people who are just becoming aware of it. One can only become aware of the connection through the connection, if someone tells them verbally then their growth will be stunted and they will be reliant on verbal communication to learn more about it.

There's a hierarchy in the nousphere as well. Seemingly normal people of different occupations and positions might have a place of power in the hierachy of this mental landscape. They refer to the top as the Head Master. He's some businessman in switzerland.

but then why am I telling you?

I had a friend who I grew up with who wasn't let in on the secret. Over the years we grew apart, as people who aren't aware are usually avoided and treated like outcasts. So, to make a long story short I felt bad one day that this old friend was living his life without knowing about this so I decided to try and tell him about it, thinking maybe I could quiet my mind in a way that others in the nousphere couldn't hear. Well, I went on to explain it to my friend, who is now completely insane since i've told him, and the Headmaster shut me down. It was like a deafening ringing sound in my ears for several minutes and suddenly my connection with everyone in the nousphere was gone. I'm one of only 15 or so people in the last 50 years who have been so careless believe it or not.

Since then I've decided to tell others who aren't aware beacuse if you aren't by now then you probably won't ever be told. People who are aware will attempt to debunk this because they are gatekeepers to the nousephere.
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I hear a constant hiss in my ears. It's the background noise of the universe from the Big Bang, God's breathing signature if you will. To the OP, once disconnected from the noise of your noosphere you might actually hear this. I assume it would be very loud at first and as you adapt it would fade into the background. I used to get beautiful tonal sounds (harmonics) in my right ear. Maybe it was the music of the spheres. I have not heard it in a long time and I miss it. Rarely I will get short bursts of unpleasant lower frequency noise it my left ear. Don't know what that is. Seems to be gone now.

Went to atmosphereofthought and read your latest post in which you said you felt like you had been interrrogated while you slept. Why would they need to question you like that if they can read your mind? It's mental rape if they access you without your consent when you are at your most vulnerable. Are you finally getting that readers are evil?
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True, one more (major) reason they hate marijuana. Because it lets those with a clouded mind hear and see them.
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True, one more (major) reason they hate marijuana. Because it lets those with a clouded mind hear and see them.
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Could you explain this a bit more. Who is they and them and those? Sorry to be so dense, but how would marijuana clarify?
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[/quote: user ExiledReader] The majority of readers do not believe that this transition is taking place for nefarious reasons. The majority believe that it is about compassion for non-readers and convenience for readers.

Thanks for your reply.


Last paragraph just goes to show that the majority of readers are naive about the real intent of this "noosphere" thing.


It's true, the majority of readers are unaware of the real intent of those who govern the noosphere. There are even cases where low level drones are only partially aware of the connection.

These partially aware readers know about the connection, they are able to read others and are aware of non-readers but they are unaware of the full scope and depth of the noosphere. These lower level readers have little control over their abilities and in many cases are unaware that a Hierarchy exists.

The exile process is slightly different for these partially aware readers. They know not to talk about it but if they do decide to speak about it they usually have a difficult time articulating out loud the full experience. As soon as they do, other readers will turn a deaf ear to the partially aware one. If the low level reader persists in their attempt to write or speak about it then as a consequence other readers will stop interacting with that reader telepathically, leaving that person to wonder if the connection was ever real.
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I was exiled last year together with huge amounts of emotional suffering.

It felt like something was sucked out of me and
some abilities went away.
I would not only call it reading ability.
It´s a connection to a hive.
Seems like a receiving and sending wireless LAN Router to a huge hierachy wich is quiet valuable if you are "running the programs" in this western culture and system.

To me this "reading/non-reading" subject seems to be connected to the "false self"-ego and its shadow part.

There might be a corruption of the subconscious of the hive-readers.

Had a loving, overwhelming , full blown spiritual exp. few days after this event. Forgiving myself, crying, etc.
Informations from above where coming in..from the Akasha Chronics i would suggest. It began with :
Following informations are for you at this point at time.
The first and oldest rule is: You have Free Will.
I will get more into this if you have questions.
If there are rules and laws i will not broke them.

I try my best to be careful with fast judgments and conclusions because human thinking is still irrational and very fast. Check out Daniel Kahneman for that.
There is something he called: individual automatic judging system which correlates with the automatic thinking in Social-Psychology. I smell a correlation with this subject/thread.

I´m just interested in this subject because i want to help, to understand and collaborate. English is not my mother-tongue.
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How can you tell the difference between your own thoughts, and a true psychic connection? Just curious, I do believe you OP that you can be watched.
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Telling your own thoughts from someone else’s can be difficult. The truth is that even readers don't always know if they are the originators of their own thoughts or not, even though they mostly assume that they are the source.

Even non-readers have experienced situations where the source of their own thoughts may be unclear or it may even appear that they are the source of someone elses ideas.

Have you ever been in a situation where a question is posed to a group of people, then after a long moment of silence everyone raises their hand or speaks at the same moment?

For example: Imagine a situation where you are at a lecture or seminar. The lecturer or instructor asks the group a question. You believe you know the answer but you are having a foggy moment. You look around the auditorium and see thatseveral other people seem to be experiencing the same crisis, some people might even say aloud that the answer is at the tip of their tongue. Then all of sudden the answer comes to mind and you raise your hand. At that same exact moment the answer seems to have come to everyone else as they all raise their hands as well. Another student beats you by a millisecond in getting the instructors attention and gives the answer. It seems the thought was shared by everyone with some confusion about the source.

How do you know if you are using telepathy to communicate with someone or if you are just imagining the phenomena? To discern between the two, a reader requires a process of confirmation without oral or textual communication. If there is an attempt to speak, write or communicate in the lower-forms about the connection, then the confirmation process has been spoiled. The lower forms of communication deter the young reader’s attention from the higher forms. This causes a dependency to use the lower to communicate about the higher when only the telepathic connection is required. If this dependency occurs then the development of the non-reader is stunted. One might not know their own thoughts from the true telepathic connection without a confirmation process since readers will never talk about it with you outside of the connection.

How do you know your own thoughts from the telepathic connection? The answer is somewhat unclear since even readers thoughts bleed into one another. Like in the classroom example where everyone comes to an answer at once, there is often time confusion as to who is the source of a thought. But in a situation where you are trying to determine if you are using telepathy to communicate with someone or just imagining that you are then a process of confirmation with other readers is required. If you are being blocked from connecting with other readers for some reason then the process of confirmation is slightly different and you will have to look for other evidence
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I was exiled last year together with huge amounts of emotional suffering.

It felt like something was sucked out of me and
some abilities went away.
I would not only call it reading ability.
It´s a connection to a hive.
Seems like a receiving and sending wireless LAN Router to a huge hierachy wich is quiet valuable if you are "running the programs" in this western culture and system.

To me this "reading/non-reading" subject seems to be connected to the "false self"-ego and its shadow part.

There might be a corruption of the subconscious of the hive-readers.

Had a loving, overwhelming , full blown spiritual exp. few days after this event. Forgiving myself, crying, etc.
Informations from above where coming in..from the Akasha Chronics i would suggest. It began with :
Following informations are for you at this point at time.
The first and oldest rule is: You have Free Will.
I will get more into this if you have questions.
If there are rules and laws i will not broke them.

I try my best to be careful with fast judgments and conclusions because human thinking is still irrational and very fast. Check out Daniel Kahneman for that.
There is something he called: individual automatic judging system which correlates with the automatic thinking in Social-Psychology. I smell a correlation with this subject/thread.

I´m just interested in this subject because i want to help, to understand and collaborate. English is not my mother-tongue.
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Thanks for sharing. I suspect that exilers will grow in numbers as the true intentions of the hive become apparent to other readers.

Spreading this information can change the way the hive operates and might help non-readers wake to the phenomena.
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I was exiled last year together with huge amounts of emotional suffering.

It felt like something was sucked out of me and
some abilities went away.
I would not only call it reading ability.
It´s a connection to a hive.
Seems like a receiving and sending wireless LAN Router to a huge hierachy wich is quiet valuable if you are "running the programs" in this western culture and system.

To me this "reading/non-reading" subject seems to be connected to the "false self"-ego and its shadow part.

There might be a corruption of the subconscious of the hive-readers.

Had a loving, overwhelming , full blown spiritual exp. few days after this event. Forgiving myself, crying, etc.
Informations from above where coming in..from the Akasha Chronics i would suggest. It began with :
Following informations are for you at this point at time.
The first and oldest rule is: You have Free Will.
I will get more into this if you have questions.
If there are rules and laws i will not broke them.

I try my best to be careful with fast judgments and conclusions because human thinking is still irrational and very fast. Check out Daniel Kahneman for that.
There is something he called: individual automatic judging system which correlates with the automatic thinking in Social-Psychology. I smell a correlation with this subject/thread.

I´m just interested in this subject because i want to help, to understand and collaborate. English is not my mother-tongue.
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You're English is fine. Thanks for the Kahneman info. Read him years ago but had forgotten. You're right about the connection. Yeah, what about these judgements and decisions and actions that are faster than conscious thought?
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2nd post

Assume there is telepathy within a hive-like hierachy involved and just a tiny minority is "waking up" and/or "exiled".

To me it seems the information in the noossphere must be dropped like some kind of "IN-SPIRI-ation" to the hive members, but some might do better than others.

Some concepts to remember:

Western Logic (one subject can be black OR white)
->leading to seperation.
Eastern Logic (one sub. can be black AND white)
->seeking to find balance.
One piece of the puzzle WHY our western culture is so fucked up and obsessed with "JUDGING".

Extroverts: Activating them selfs by socializing with others. They like hierachies and form them magically out of thin air(lord of flies?). If the members are new to each others. Even at seminars and such.
Introverts: Activating them selfs by activity they approach on their own. These little weirdos are more likely to become victims of the extroverts.
Readers = more extrovert ?

Mobbing:
Nazis painted one bird blue and the swarm killed it.

Noosphere:
Starcraft Overlord Hypothesis: ;-)

Bird,Fish,ANT-COLONY - no individual is giving orders - but the whole hive/swarm seems like ONE conscious entity.
SCIENCE TAGS: emergence, swarm-intelligence,
SPIRITUAL TAGS: demiurg, logos, nag hammadi, archons, bardon, hermetics, 100 & 1 monkey effect, morphogenetic field

Vampirism:
If there is such thing as a noossphere,
than there is some kind of energy-exchange involved. The victim is giving of energy to the oppressors, by feelings(4D)which are triggered by thoughts of fear.
I smell correlation with
"the Lucifer effect". Google it for some well researched science about the dark side of bullying.

Whiny little wimps with their negativity can also be energy vamps without even noticing it.

After my spiritual exp.

Some guy i never saw before - i walked out of a club - one second later - he was shouting across the street like:
You are a victim of your parents - i see this - yeah i´m one of those which have this kind of "ability".

At a party i was like a magnet to a borderline-chick who wanted to have sex with me. She was looking at me like there was a sign above my head.
I checked for cut arms and went charming away.

And more of this stuff was happening.
The universe was telling me something.


Kahneman:
Individual Automatic Judgment System
In short: There are 2 Systems: Rational and Irrational.
But it´s difficult for us to differ both from each other
- especially under emotional influence / pressure.

The irrational part of the brain comes first.
If the conclusion to an answer or problem
it has to find is too complex to deal with it,
IT WILL FIND SOME attributes which it associates the most
and glue them together until it CAN deal with it
(i would add: and feels fine with it).
Selfvalue-verification-theory.

In short:
Human brains have a built in tendency to
judge fast -
juggle up subconsciously what it has in storage - to deal with the complexity of the unknown - filling the gaps !
and clear the working memory for the next task.

There is a bit more to it.
Check it out for yourself.
Have fun.
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It seems to me you've made my point again. You see your "reading" ability as some sort of blessing which you have lost. You still have the mind frame of a reader and you are trapped in it and cannot see that you've been liberated. You are sovereign now; no longer part of a hive whose deepest secrets you were not privy to. I realize that as a former reader you think this is an arrogant and presumptuous comment on my part.

I laud the OP and you for speaking out. The revamped site is great. But there is the assumption that nonreaders want to become readers. Wanting to become a reader is just not the case for me. But I want to learn as much as possible about this and related phenomena. For this I thank you. But I've been exhausted by the reader attitude that I am second class (remember I am being monitored by readers) and I get the impression that you think that there is nothing to be learnt from me. I've been sensitized to these nuances and I apologize if I am overreacting.

Readers often assume I am one and are shocked and shaken to find out that I am not. One said that I had locked myself out. I have no recollection. Back in 1985 I was staying in a lakeside hotel in Switzerland where Byron had stayed centuries before. I was checking out and the clerk literally gasped "you can't hear me!" I had heard everything that had been audibly said. The larging area was a hotbed of reading. (I realize that now though at the time I merely knew something strange was going on.) Just thereafter I was mocked for no apparent reason by a parking attendant at an undergound garage nearby. News travels fast in the noosphere.

The OP makes the argument that the reason for the secrecy is that without it, the ability's development would be hindered. No doubt that's somewhat true although there are other ways to develop the reading ability as well as other abilities which are more deeply kept secrets. I have that on good authority. The reason for the secrecy is really that of the importance of keeping secrets of which reading is the least important given that 90 % know about it.
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You make several great points. I have been looking at my exile as a blessing which was taken away when really the blessing is being disconnected.

Thank you for visiting my site!

It definitely seems like I'm assuming non-readers want to be readers but that isn't the case. I am kind of assuming that there might be some non-readers out there who would want to help in my efforts of countering the Hierarchy. I believe that getting the help of non-readers turned readers might be the way to do this. But maybe you are right and I should just let them be and simply enjoy my sovereignty.

I definitely don't mean to give the impression that I don't think there is much to be learnt from you. It's the exact opposite. I would really like to know more about your last paragraph. There are definitely more secret abilities out there beyond reading and this is definitely the lesser of them as 90 percent are aware of this one and only a small number are aware of the others. Anything you know and would like to share is appreciated.

It's probably your awareness of the phenomena and other secrets which lead readers to believe that you are one of them. They can be slow to read people sometimes and don't always recognize a non-reader or exiled reader immediately. I've had similar experiences recently where people assume I am still a reader and are very mocking when they realize I have been exiled.
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Somewhere in this thread a poster provided a link to www.freeyourbrain.org. I can't find it now but the document was basically about how to deal with the consequences of a "spiritual hurricane" which hit in the early 90's. According to some one called "pieces of nothing", 10 percent of humans are survivors and share the symptoms and characteristics of the OP's 10 percenters. The document written in the early 2000s is incomplete with many sections pending.

To anyone reading, I'm wondering if there is a completed version available somewhere on the net.

To the OP, I'm wondering if this was written by a 90 percenter whose work was partially destroyed.
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I posted the freeyourbrain post, and it was immediately ridiculed....ah well.
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I had a dream a couple weeks ago relating to this phenomenon. Naturally, it conveyed to me I was the actor or the unaware. I think that's part of the lie however, that we 'are not aware.' I'm not sure everyone wants to be aware or have doubt. I think the gift of not knowing is one many would covet and liken to a child. I feel your pain, but the hope is in the power of the one. The battle is already won, the dominoes can only be held up so long. When presented with the truth, you are given freedom to make the right choice.

There was also apparently a brain washing 'upgrade' happening to the hive mind. In a way I felt like I was watching this whole scene as high profile figures were getting their upgrades - kind of like robots.
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One professional scientist on this topic is Dr. William Ickes.
checkout wikipedia for an overview.

His book is titled:

Everyday Mind Reading :
Understanding What Other People Think and Feel
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One professional scientist on this topic is Dr. William Ickes.
checkout wikipedia for an overview.

His book is titled:

Everyday Mind Reading :
Understanding What Other People Think and Feel
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Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. It seems readers and the Hierarchy want people to get the concept out there and to talk about telepathy without talking about what is currently happening around us.

They seem to be preparing for some type of transition for the world.

They want to prepeare non-readers to accept the future telepathic society that will be developed with an artificial noosphere without non-readers knowing that a telepathic society already exists.
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To above:

You are partially correct, but what I'm trying to convey to you is that it isn't as much a "blessing" as that which is natural. You can hear with your ears. You can't turn it off. You don't NOT hear, you don't NOT use your hearing. Sometimes you may miss something if you're not paying attention, but you don't question or have any qualms with your ability to hear. It just IS.

That's what being a reader is like. Please don't dismiss all readers as mindless zombie drones, because to a reader, reading just IS. We don't turn it off or have qualms with its existence, we use the noosphere as we use our hearing. It IS.

As far as not discussing it, you're correct that there are different levels, and those who are more powerful than others. However, this is known by readers themselves, we know there is a hierarchy in the hive mind. Not discussing it is for the sake of developing children. Though this is a weak comparison, it's sort of like how we don't tell 5 year olds about sex, and we don't discuss our bowl movements, even though we all have them and we know we all have them (reader and non-reader alike!).

I'm interested to hear of your experience. You talk of having "good authority" about the noosphere. Prior to the OP, who else ever spoke of this? How did you find out about the noosphere on your own accord? Who else have you been talking to about this? If you were always a non-reader, what set the ball into motion of you learning about the noosphere? Do you hold your reader family members in contempt?

Also, my heart goes out to you as you seem to have had bad experiences with readers messing with you, but please don't assume ALL readers are like that.
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Arbitrary Walls makes raised good points. It isn't so much viewed as a blessing by readers, although they certainly do view themselves as superior. Reading just is for them. They definitely shouldn't all be dismissed as mindless drones; that would be under estimating them. Although many are controlled and influenced by higher intelligences, most particualrly the partially aware ones. Especially when they are being organized against non-reders.
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I hear a constant hiss in my ears. It's the background noise of the universe from the Big Bang, God's breathing signature if you will. To the OP, once disconnected from the noise of your noosphere you might actually hear this. I assume it would be very loud at first and as you adapt it would fade into the background. I used to get beautiful tonal sounds (harmonics) in my right ear. Maybe it was the music of the spheres. I have not heard it in a long time and I miss it. Rarely I will get short bursts of unpleasant lower frequency noise it my left ear. Don't know what that is. Seems to be gone now.

Went to atmosphereofthought and read your latest post in which you said you felt like you had been interrrogated while you slept. Why would they need to question you like that if they can read your mind? It's mental rape if they access you without your consent when you are at your most vulnerable. Are you finally getting that readers are evil?
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The reason for interrogating while you sleep is to get access to thoughts you may not be conscious of. It's easier access in some ways.
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To above:

You are partially correct, but what I'm trying to convey to you is that it isn't as much a "blessing" as that which is natural. You can hear with your ears. You can't turn it off. You don't NOT hear, you don't NOT use your hearing. Sometimes you may miss something if you're not paying attention, but you don't question or have any qualms with your ability to hear. It just IS.

That's what being a reader is like. Please don't dismiss all readers as mindless zombie drones, because to a reader, reading just IS. We don't turn it off or have qualms with its existence, we use the noosphere as we use our hearing. It IS.

As far as not discussing it, you're correct that there are different levels, and those who are more powerful than others. However, this is known by readers themselves, we know there is a hierarchy in the hive mind. Not discussing it is for the sake of developing children. Though this is a weak comparison, it's sort of like how we don't tell 5 year olds about sex, and we don't discuss our bowl movements, even though we all have them and we know we all have them (reader and non-reader alike!).

I'm interested to hear of your experience. You talk of having "good authority" about the noosphere. Prior to the OP, who else ever spoke of this? How did you find out about the noosphere on your own accord? Who else have you been talking to about this? If you were always a non-reader, what set the ball into motion of you learning about the noosphere? Do you hold your reader family members in contempt?

Also, my heart goes out to you as you seem to have had bad experiences with readers messing with you, but please don't assume ALL readers are like that.
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Most readers I've met are like that. So, yes, I do hold them in contempt. But I tend to forgive those I am related to. What else can I do. We are what we are.

I don't know how to reply to your questions without getting myself and others into more trouble. And I had quite a bit of trouble en route last night nearly as if "they" anticipated this Q & A.

Again a three vehicle team of theirs was trying to induce a VMA, mine. As often as I've experienced the set up, I was taken by surprise. When I called my mother to tell her I had arrived safely, she specifically asked if there had been any trouble in the place where it had happened. It's an eighteen hour trip, so I pass by many cities. She knew as she always does. But we never talk about that. Perhaps it has nothing to do with reading.

Sometimes I wonder if what you are discussing here as the noosphere is actually the same phenomenon I've experienced. You seem so calm and complacent and whatever IT is, seems so benign and natural when you talk about it. Nothing like the dark and dangerous side I've experienced for decades. It's destroyed my life.

I am literally surrounded and surveilled by readers. They don't come out and say "I'm a reader and you're not" but they do let me know in ways that are often quite nasty, mean and insidious. Oddly, they all assume I know more than I do about it. Can't they tell from my blank stare? The mind reading ability must not be very reliable for many of them.

It surprises me that you think people do not talk about it. I have overheard neighbourhood kids aged 10 to 12 talk about it amongst themselves. "The power is real" said my neighbour's daughter.

I suspected her mother was a reader although at that time I was not calling it reading because mind reading is just one aspect. So I was in my backyard and she was on her deck separated by trees. There was no acknowledgement of each other's presence, conversation or interaction; no face contact and she would say things out of the blue so that I would overhear. Took me a while to catch on.

For example one day it was "WHAT do you THINK you're doing!?" This in a condescending tone of voice. Another day it was bitter laughter and "Your FRIEND has locked us out." More cutting laughter as if it didn't matter. It wasn't until GLP and the exiled readers here that I understood what that meant. I'd like to think that the exile was not permanent for their sake.

By way of explanation, I have been led to believe that I have a connection to some one who is probably significant in the noosphere. It may all be BS. In any case, I would be more a favorite enemy than a friend. I'd like to be a friend but that has not proven to be workable. Essentially we are different "species". And given everthing that has happened to me I cannot trust or believe any of the information "they" convey. I'm at a marked disadvantage and I have personal safety concerns.

Readers aren't careful around me which just goes to show how insignificant they think I am. I don't count. So I overhear things all the time. There is another neighbour who is very loud and one day it sounded like she had developed some new ability beyond reading, heaven forbid! She exclaimed: "It's r-e-a-l!" drawing out the word. When the calvalry arrived she was repeating the same two words. I overheard the man saying "I don't like this at all." Can only guess what he meant.

Readers and their ilk are on the liminal edge of insanity imho. When another nonreader (my assumption), a religious man, asked me if I thought there were people with mind reading abilities, I lied and said no. Don't know why I did that. It's not that I'm afraid of being labelled a nut by the 10 percent or some one who can't keep a secret (by sheer numbers not really a secret BTW) by the 90 percent. I skirted the issue by saying there are exceptional individuals who could make it appear to be so and who knows what latent talents we all have. I think I'd open the discussion if he ever asked again.
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It sounds like you are also experiencing some other phenomena as well. At first you weren't sure if we were talking about the same thing or not but now I'm beginning to wonder if there is something more to your experiences than just the noosphere.

You mention that whatever it is that we speak of sounds benign and natural and not the darker side that you have experienced. Care to share any of the other experiences if it isn't too painful or dangerous to talk about?
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I hear a constant hiss in my ears. It's the background noise of the universe from the Big Bang, God's breathing signature if you will. To the OP, once disconnected from the noise of your noosphere you might actually hear this. I assume it would be very loud at first and as you adapt it would fade into the background. I used to get beautiful tonal sounds (harmonics) in my right ear. Maybe it was the music of the spheres. I have not heard it in a long time and I miss it. Rarely I will get short bursts of unpleasant lower frequency noise it my left ear. Don't know what that is. Seems to be gone now.

Went to atmosphereofthought and read your latest post in which you said you felt like you had been interrrogated while you slept. Why would they need to question you like that if they can read your mind? It's mental rape if they access you without your consent when you are at your most vulnerable. Are you finally getting that readers are evil?
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The reason for interrogating while you sleep is to get access to thoughts you may not be conscious of. It's easier access in some ways.
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Still sounds like mental rape to me. So now the interrogator knows more about sleeper than the sleeper knows about himself since by definition the unconscious is unknown to the conscious. Some how that just does not seem right.
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I had a dream a couple weeks ago relating to this phenomenon. Naturally, it conveyed to me I was the actor or the unaware. I think that's part of the lie however, that we 'are not aware.' I'm not sure everyone wants to be aware or have doubt. I think the gift of not knowing is one many would covet and liken to a child. I feel your pain, but the hope is in the power of the one. The battle is already won, the dominoes can only be held up so long. When presented with the truth, you are given freedom to make the right choice.

There was also apparently a brain washing 'upgrade' happening to the hive mind. In a way I felt like I was watching this whole scene as high profile figures were getting their upgrades - kind of like robots.
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I've been noticing that too; the upgrade that's a degrade of the unconscious.
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I hear a constant hiss in my ears. It's the background noise of the universe from the Big Bang, God's breathing signature if you will. To the OP, once disconnected from the noise of your noosphere you might actually hear this. I assume it would be very loud at first and as you adapt it would fade into the background. I used to get beautiful tonal sounds (harmonics) in my right ear. Maybe it was the music of the spheres. I have not heard it in a long time and I miss it. Rarely I will get short bursts of unpleasant lower frequency noise it my left ear. Don't know what that is. Seems to be gone now.

Went to atmosphereofthought and read your latest post in which you said you felt like you had been interrrogated while you slept. Why would they need to question you like that if they can read your mind? It's mental rape if they access you without your consent when you are at your most vulnerable. Are you finally getting that readers are evil?
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The reason for interrogating while you sleep is to get access to thoughts you may not be conscious of. It's easier access in some ways.
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Still sounds like mental rape to me. So now the interrogator knows more about sleeper than the sleeper knows about himself since by definition the unconscious is unknown to the conscious. Some how that just does not seem right.
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I sometimes wonder if they know more about me than I know about myself. Regardless, it is some sort of mental rape and certainly not right at all.

Except, things apparently aren't as they seem. Tricks are being played on multiple levels. I sometimes misinterpret who is doing what. Partially aware readers some times are used in a way that gives an illusion that they are reading you when it is actually some else reading you through them. Sometimes I think it may be one person when it is actually another.

I'm becoming concerned that I am putting everyone at risk here and that they might need to step away unless they can actually deal with the pressure that the hive may place on them for looking too deeply into this matter.

I asked the other night about the darker side. And I'm sorry I asked.
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I hear a constant hiss in my ears. It's the background noise of the universe from the Big Bang, God's breathing signature if you will. To the OP, once disconnected from the noise of your noosphere you might actually hear this. I assume it would be very loud at first and as you adapt it would fade into the background. I used to get beautiful tonal sounds (harmonics) in my right ear. Maybe it was the music of the spheres. I have not heard it in a long time and I miss it. Rarely I will get short bursts of unpleasant lower frequency noise it my left ear. Don't know what that is. Seems to be gone now.

Went to atmosphereofthought and read your latest post in which you said you felt like you had been interrrogated while you slept. Why would they need to question you like that if they can read your mind? It's mental rape if they access you without your consent when you are at your most vulnerable. Are you finally getting that readers are evil?
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The reason for interrogating while you sleep is to get access to thoughts you may not be conscious of. It's easier access in some ways.
 Quoting: ExiledReader


Still sounds like mental rape to me. So now the interrogator knows more about sleeper than the sleeper knows about himself since by definition the unconscious is unknown to the conscious. Some how that just does not seem right.
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I sometimes wonder if they know more about me than I know about myself. Regardless, it is some sort of mental rape and certainly not right at all.

Except, things apparently aren't as they seem. Tricks are being played on multiple levels. I sometimes misinterpret who is doing what. Partially aware readers some times are used in a way that gives an illusion that they are reading you when it is actually some else reading you through them. Sometimes I think it may be one person when it is actually another.

I'm becoming concerned that I am putting everyone at risk here and that they might need to step away unless they can actually deal with the pressure that the hive may place on them for looking too deeply into this matter.

I asked the other night about the darker side. And I'm sorry I asked.
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As you say, higher level members do use lower level readers to read for them. I assume that most of the time they are more like a conduit totally unaware that they are being used in this manner. That would make sense. Yet, in my case, one individual who lives in close proximity seems to have been given the task to monitor me. She knows it and is none too pleased, wanting out at one point. I assume she has no choice in the matter, as once in so deep there is no out, but is compensated in some way in terms of additional powers perhaps.

It is a very creepy situation as she reads not only my thoughts but also my sensations. One example, I was pruning my wild rose bushes and frequently pricking myself despite gloves and sleeve length clothing. Everytime I felt a thorn, I would hear laughter from her house as she found delight in my pain. It wasn't that she was at her windows watching. Nor was I aware of any cameras which were a possibility. Cumulatively my past experiences living there told me that cameras weren't necessary for this response of hers.

I am not her only target by any means. For example, there was a loud exchange between her and some guests. They left very quickly backing down the drive. Next she was at the door mockingly waving some keys yelling "I didn't mean to hurt you". It didn't sound sincere somehow. The keys were merely symbolic as the guests did not return for them. I don't know what it was all about, but they left like bats out of hell. The keys to the kingdom come at a cost apparently.

To many readers of GLP much of this will not make sense without its larger context. I could go on but unless some one has actually had similar experiences, it will just sound crazy. And there is no point incurring risk in revealing more for no return. A person can only go so deep before becoming dysfunctional in the activities of daily living. We were not meant to peak through the veil. Yet changes are happening and I think people should at least be aware. It sould be their informed decision.
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The reason for interrogating while you sleep is to get access to thoughts you may not be conscious of. It's easier access in some ways.
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Still sounds like mental rape to me. So now the interrogator knows more about sleeper than the sleeper knows about himself since by definition the unconscious is unknown to the conscious. Some how that just does not seem right.
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I sometimes wonder if they know more about me than I know about myself. Regardless, it is some sort of mental rape and certainly not right at all.

Except, things apparently aren't as they seem. Tricks are being played on multiple levels. I sometimes misinterpret who is doing what. Partially aware readers some times are used in a way that gives an illusion that they are reading you when it is actually some else reading you through them. Sometimes I think it may be one person when it is actually another.

I'm becoming concerned that I am putting everyone at risk here and that they might need to step away unless they can actually deal with the pressure that the hive may place on them for looking too deeply into this matter.

I asked the other night about the darker side. And I'm sorry I asked.
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As you say, higher level members do use lower level readers to read for them. I assume that most of the time they are more like a conduit totally unaware that they are being used in this manner. That would make sense. Yet, in my case, one individual who lives in close proximity seems to have been given the task to monitor me. She knows it and is none too pleased, wanting out at one point. I assume she has no choice in the matter, as once in so deep there is no out, but is compensated in some way in terms of additional powers perhaps.

It is a very creepy situation as she reads not only my thoughts but also my sensations. One example, I was pruning my wild rose bushes and frequently pricking myself despite gloves and sleeve length clothing. Everytime I felt a thorn, I would hear laughter from her house as she found delight in my pain. It wasn't that she was at her windows watching. Nor was I aware of any cameras which were a possibility. Cumulatively my past experiences living there told me that cameras weren't necessary for this response of hers.

I am not her only target by any means. For example, there was a loud exchange between her and some guests. They left very quickly backing down the drive. Next she was at the door mockingly waving some keys yelling "I didn't mean to hurt you". It didn't sound sincere somehow. The keys were merely symbolic as the guests did not return for them. I don't know what it was all about, but they left like bats out of hell. The keys to the kingdom come at a cost apparently.

To many readers of GLP much of this will not make sense without its larger context. I could go on but unless some one has actually had similar experiences, it will just sound crazy. And there is no point incurring risk in revealing more for no return. A person can only go so deep before becoming dysfunctional in the activities of daily living. We were not meant to peak through the veil. Yet changes are happening and I think people should at least be aware. It sould be their informed decision.
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This person who has been tasked to monitor you, why do you you think is unpleased with the job? How do you you know she wanted out at one point? Is this the same neighbor that you overheard saying "it's reeaal" in a long drawn out voice?

I'm wondering if she is a member of the Hierarchy of Heads or if she is just being used by mediator?

There is much more going on with higher level readers than just telepathy.

I was thinking, if she were just reading your sensations, wouldn't she say "ouch" when you prick your finger? I suppose that is not necessarily the case, it is possible for her to read them without experiencing the discomfort but I think she may be doing more than just reading your sensations but gaining pleasure from your pain. Do you feel tired around her? Does she make you yawn uncontrollably? Does she find ways of bumping into you no matter how much you try to avoid her? I'm curious if she has been tasked to monitor you or if her job is more sinister than that.

Please go on, your experiences are very interesting. If it doesn't cause you too much trouble, tell us more about the larger context of all of this.

As you say, changes are happening and people should be aware.
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Still sounds like mental rape to me. So now the interrogator knows more about sleeper than the sleeper knows about himself since by definition the unconscious is unknown to the conscious. Some how that just does not seem right.
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I sometimes wonder if they know more about me than I know about myself. Regardless, it is some sort of mental rape and certainly not right at all.

Except, things apparently aren't as they seem. Tricks are being played on multiple levels. I sometimes misinterpret who is doing what. Partially aware readers some times are used in a way that gives an illusion that they are reading you when it is actually some else reading you through them. Sometimes I think it may be one person when it is actually another.

I'm becoming concerned that I am putting everyone at risk here and that they might need to step away unless they can actually deal with the pressure that the hive may place on them for looking too deeply into this matter.

I asked the other night about the darker side. And I'm sorry I asked.
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As you say, higher level members do use lower level readers to read for them. I assume that most of the time they are more like a conduit totally unaware that they are being used in this manner. That would make sense. Yet, in my case, one individual who lives in close proximity seems to have been given the task to monitor me. She knows it and is none too pleased, wanting out at one point. I assume she has no choice in the matter, as once in so deep there is no out, but is compensated in some way in terms of additional powers perhaps.

It is a very creepy situation as she reads not only my thoughts but also my sensations. One example, I was pruning my wild rose bushes and frequently pricking myself despite gloves and sleeve length clothing. Everytime I felt a thorn, I would hear laughter from her house as she found delight in my pain. It wasn't that she was at her windows watching. Nor was I aware of any cameras which were a possibility. Cumulatively my past experiences living there told me that cameras weren't necessary for this response of hers.

I am not her only target by any means. For example, there was a loud exchange between her and some guests. They left very quickly backing down the drive. Next she was at the door mockingly waving some keys yelling "I didn't mean to hurt you". It didn't sound sincere somehow. The keys were merely symbolic as the guests did not return for them. I don't know what it was all about, but they left like bats out of hell. The keys to the kingdom come at a cost apparently.

To many readers of GLP much of this will not make sense without its larger context. I could go on but unless some one has actually had similar experiences, it will just sound crazy. And there is no point incurring risk in revealing more for no return. A person can only go so deep before becoming dysfunctional in the activities of daily living. We were not meant to peak through the veil. Yet changes are happening and I think people should at least be aware. It sould be their informed decision.
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This person who has been tasked to monitor you, why do you you think is unpleased with the job? How do you you know she wanted out at one point? Is this the same neighbor that you overheard saying "it's reeaal" in a long drawn out voice?

I'm wondering if she is a member of the Hierarchy of Heads or if she is just being used by mediator?

There is much more going on with higher level readers than just telepathy.

I was thinking, if she were just reading your sensations, wouldn't she say "ouch" when you prick your finger? I suppose that is not necessarily the case, it is possible for her to read them without experiencing the discomfort but I think she may be doing more than just reading your sensations but gaining pleasure from your pain. Do you feel tired around her? Does she make you yawn uncontrollably? Does she find ways of bumping into you no matter how much you try to avoid her? I'm curious if she has been tasked to monitor you or if her job is more sinister than that.

Please go on, your experiences are very interesting. If it doesn't cause you too much trouble, tell us more about the larger context of all of this.

As you say, changes are happening and people should be aware.
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Thanks for replying.

My best guess is that is she is being used as a go between and filter of sorts. As I've mentioned before there is some one who needs to have me watched. Why wouldn't he do the reading himself? Because he does not like what he hears about himself from me. It's negative and he would rather I adulate him. Also because he has more important things to do.

I assume that when you're part of the serving hierarchy you don't get to pick and choose what you do. You follow orders. I am at worst a thorn in the side of their circle and at most a nothing in their scheme of things. To have to monitor me would be beneath her, in her words: "Why do I have to put up with this!"

Yes, it's the same person, we don't interact socially, merely live in proximity and I don't run into her elsewhere. I know she wanted out because she said so out loud, not to me, but to some one else who merely laughed and whistled in response. And yes, I am always tired and know there is more to this.

But she is merely one of many servers in different locales all of whom pose a potential danger. She is the least subtle of them.
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Op stop trying to spread counter intel and fear!Some people have the beautiful gift of telepathy and TPTB hates that.You are just spreading paranoia and fear!s226
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Op stop trying to spread counter intel and fear!Some people have the beautiful gift of telepathy and TPTB hates that.You are just spreading paranoia and fear!s226
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Here is an example of how my message is being interrupted by paranoia spread by people who are trying to make you fear me.

AC here would like you to believe that I am some sort of disinfo agent who is saying that telpathy is not real.

This entire time I have been saying that telepathy is real. So real that nearly everyone is connected on multiple levels of awareness.

TPTB know that your gifts are real but they only want you non-readers to have the concept of these abilities so that when the time is right you will accept the artificial noosphere.

Believe what you want but I think many of you know what is waiting around the corner.
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Op stop trying to spread counter intel and fear!Some people have the beautiful gift of telepathy and TPTB hates that.You are just spreading paranoia and fear!s226
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Here is an example of how my message is being interrupted by paranoia spread by people who are trying to make you fear me.

AC here would like you to believe that I am some sort of disinfo agent who is saying that telpathy is not real.

This entire time I have been saying that telepathy is real. So real that nearly everyone is connected on multiple levels of awareness.

TPTB know that your gifts are real but they only want you non-readers to have the concept of these abilities so that when the time is right you will accept the artificial noosphere.

Believe what you want but I think many of you know what is waiting around the corner.
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Umm ... I can't speak for all nonreaders but I for one would not willingly accept anything TPTB force on me presenting it as some sort of gift to make up for the deficit they imposed on me. The artificial noosphere is a Trojan horse if ever there was one. Don't want it. Don't think it would work anyway unless they're planning to hardwire all of us.

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