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Everyone's a mind reader but you

 
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The so-called readers seem to be a bit jealous of the 10% they're not, ain't that how it always goes. Non-hive-minded people are the only ones who can ever be truly free, the rest of y'all are just following, monitoring, copying us. Like I said, enjoy your hive, losers, and I'll enjoy my freedom.
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Ahhh i knew you would say that 5a
When the seventh seal is opened, I will deliver terrible punishments upon the earth because of disobedience. This punishment will be so severe that it will decimate huge populations ....eekerstard also
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OP is worshipping evil one way or another.

here is why.


god gave us all free will.
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those who try to take that away work for the darkness.



good luck OP, strive to better yourself, rather than look to control others. hope that helps.
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TRUE THAT! Also, y'all should be more concerned with your own lives than with what other people are doing/thinking/feeling. I don't give a flying fuck how any of you feel, so why are you all up in my thoughts and inspirations? Because you're unoriginal losers who are totally doomed to a life of leeching truth off others. What a sad existence!
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But you said sometimes parents hope their children will "come around," if their child is in the 10 percent and one day maybe become a 90 percenter; or school administrators might inform the children of 10 percenter parents who wouldn't be able to explain it to their 90 percent child.

Now, it seems like you're saying some of these people are the ones who kept us from accessing this noosphere.
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Hello!

OP here,

Let's see...


Well, yes in many of the cases, such as the case where the child would is creating a self-imposed block because the truth is too much then the parent may remain hopeful that one day their child would grow out of the barrier and awaken to the noosphere.

In other cases where someone is doing something embarrassing, or criminal, people may hope that you one day change so they can lift the mind block that has been placed on you and tell you about the higher layers of reality that exist in the noosphere. I can give more examples if you like.

So, in some instances they keep you from it and in other cases you keep yourself from it.
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You Feeders embarrass yourselves in front of me every day. Do NOT try to tell me that your gang has some "be-in-control-of-your-mind", no embarrassing thoughts clause! That is ridiculously untrue.


So i have ridiculous embarrassing thoughts. What now? Do you want to put me into the gass chamber ?
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But you said sometimes parents hope their children will "come around," if their child is in the 10 percent and one day maybe become a 90 percenter; or school administrators might inform the children of 10 percenter parents who wouldn't be able to explain it to their 90 percent child.

Now, it seems like you're saying some of these people are the ones who kept us from accessing this noosphere.
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Hello!

OP here,

Let's see...


Well, yes in many of the cases, such as the case where the child would is creating a self-imposed block because the truth is too much then the parent may remain hopeful that one day their child would grow out of the barrier and awaken to the noosphere.

In other cases where someone is doing something embarrassing, or criminal, people may hope that you one day change so they can lift the mind block that has been placed on you and tell you about the higher layers of reality that exist in the noosphere. I can give more examples if you like.

So, in some instances they keep you from it and in other cases you keep yourself from it.
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You Feeders embarrass yourselves in front of me every day. Do NOT try to tell me that your gang has some "be-in-control-of-your-mind", no embarrassing thoughts clause! That is ridiculously untrue.
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So i have ridiculous embarrassing thoughts. What now? Do you want to put me into the gass chamber ?


OP, some more examples might be elucidating.

I find that readers have more to be embarassed about than nonreaders. No doubt they have more skills at controlling their thoughts and keeping their criminality hidden than nonreaders. They have to of necessity.

The ability to conceal is probably essential to rising in the hierarchy. The deeper levels of reality are nothing you would want to have loose lips about. Otherwise you'd have a major exodus from the hive.
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By mind reader I mean that people are aware of an internet-like connection between each other which they use to share information. Most people are aware of this, even people you might consider of less intelligence than yourself. You'd be very surprised at just how many people are in on this.

You've had the sense that everyone is in on something but you couldnt' put your ifnger on it. It seems at times that people know things about you they couldn't possibly know.

but why hasn't any one told you?

No one is allowed to talk about it. People can only communicate about it with their mental connection. Around age 12 or so is the time when people become fully aware of this ability then other people, usually family, are the ones to let them in on it so they don't think they are going crazy. When one becomes aware, that person also becomes fully aware of the cardinal rule that they can never ever talk about this ability. The consequence of talking about this ability is that the connection will be severed and they will be forced to live like the people who aren't aware, such as yourself, and will be limited to the lower forms of communication.

The reason why this can never be spoken about or written about or communicated in any other way than through the connection is because it will absolutely stunt the growth of the younger people who are just becoming aware of it. One can only become aware of the connection through the connection, if someone tells them verbally then their growth will be stunted and they will be reliant on verbal communication to learn more about it.

There's a hierarchy in the nousphere as well. Seemingly normal people of different occupations and positions might have a place of power in the hierachy of this mental landscape. They refer to the top as the Head Master. He's some businessman in switzerland.

but then why am I telling you?

I had a friend who I grew up with who wasn't let in on the secret. Over the years we grew apart, as people who aren't aware are usually avoided and treated like outcasts. So, to make a long story short I felt bad one day that this old friend was living his life without knowing about this so I decided to try and tell him about it, thinking maybe I could quiet my mind in a way that others in the nousphere couldn't hear. Well, I went on to explain it to my friend, who is now completely insane since i've told him, and the Headmaster shut me down. It was like a deafening ringing sound in my ears for several minutes and suddenly my connection with everyone in the nousphere was gone. I'm one of only 15 or so people in the last 50 years who have been so careless believe it or not.

Since then I've decided to tell others who aren't aware beacuse if you aren't by now then you probably won't ever be told. People who are aware will attempt to debunk this because they are gatekeepers to the nousephere.
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If it were possible to read the mind of someone, it would be morally and ethically wrong dont you get it?

It can be likened to going into someone's house when the owner hasn't given you permission to do so.
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If it were possible to read the mind of someone, it would be morally and ethically wrong dont you get it?

It can be likened to going into someone's house when the owner hasn't given you permission to do so.
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I know some readers who have actually done that, ie, gone into my house without my permission.
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If it were possible to read the mind of someone, it would be morally and ethically wrong dont you get it?

It can be likened to going into someone's house when the owner hasn't given you permission to do so.
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I totally agree with you. Unfortunately these people (I hesitate to call them that) do exist and they rarely get it. If and when they do, it never lasts. It's as if the hive has some kind of pull on them and they revert back to type. I suspect this applies to most readers who have been exiled as well. They never quite get over their sense of superiority and entitlement. Laws, morals and ethics never applied to the gods on Olympus. They were above all that and mere human mortals were their play things. I do think hierarchical readers think of themselves in that way and I don't think there is anything that can change them. They seem to be unable to learn and evolve.
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Just an odd story I want to pass along to the OP to get his/her opinion without signing into the atmosphereofthought site. I'm a nonreader who has been surrounded by readers so I'm aware of the phenomena. My former neighbor was banned or exiled. I heard her weeping bitterly when this happened. Before she moved she asked me if I knew why another reader was no longer "talking" to her. I had no idea on any level but for some reason readers assume I have some inside track and that I'm just some reader who has perversely chosen to block which to the best of my knowledge is not the case. I suggested it might have something to do with her divorce and their friendship with her ex. Then she did the characteristic annoyed "no" and looking aside pose which I have seen many times before when I reply on the overt superficial level which is in fact my only level of communication. My question is are there any other reasons for being banned or exiled beyond talking about it with nonreaders. (She never talked about it with me BTW but she did give me quite a few clues.) Are exiles or bans always permanent or can the sentence be of shorter duration? Can the ban be partial, for example, provided limited but not comprehensive access to the noosphere?
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telepathy is real. i've heard it a lot of times, just not like a constant signal.
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maybe the bathroom and shampoo on your head has something to do with eet
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Just an odd story I want to pass along to the OP to get his/her opinion without signing into the atmosphereofthought site. I'm a nonreader who has been surrounded by readers so I'm aware of the phenomena. My former neighbor was banned or exiled. I heard her weeping bitterly when this happened. Before she moved she asked me if I knew why another reader was no longer "talking" to her. I had no idea on any level but for some reason readers assume I have some inside track and that I'm just some reader who has perversely chosen to block which to the best of my knowledge is not the case. I suggested it might have something to do with her divorce and their friendship with her ex. Then she did the characteristic annoyed "no" and looking aside pose which I have seen many times before when I reply on the overt superficial level which is in fact my only level of communication. My question is are there any other reasons for being banned or exiled beyond talking about it with nonreaders. (She never talked about it with me BTW but she did give me quite a few clues.) Are exiles or bans always permanent or can the sentence be of shorter duration? Can the ban be partial, for example, provided limited but not comprehensive access to the noosphere?
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I'm thinking that you have some kind of a connection to a high level, hierarchy mediator that other lower level readers are aware of while also still aware that you are a non-reader. This is a mediator who "chimes in" when necessary to communicate to other readers around you, perhaps to help you since you are only able to use the surface level forms of communication. Your neighbor, upon exile, came to you hoping that your mediator might "chime in" when speaking to you and may have been let down if the mediator seemed absent. In other words, when readers like your neighbor come to you for answers while aware that you are a non-reader it is likely that they are not just speaking to you only but to the high-level reader who may be watching you for whatever reason.

There are different forms of banishment and exile, depending on the level of a reader and the type of violation committed. For example, exile for a subtly-aware reader is less extreme than for a an exiled reader such as myself.

Another reason why a reader can be exiled and blocked from the telepathic connection is because of communication with the uncontrollable subsections of the atmosphere of thought that connects everyone. Readers communicate best with those who are "like-minded." There are cultural, genetic, chemical and other factors that make people like-minded. There are areas that are considered off limits, areas that the Hierarchy would like to limit. It's possible that your neighbor was connecting with one of these uncontrollable subsections that the hierarchy considers off-limits for readers.

Exile is not always permanent. My exile is most likely permanent but it's funny how the hierarchy allows me to be subtly aware at times when it is convenient for them.
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Just an odd story I want to pass along to the OP to get his/her opinion without signing into the atmosphereofthought site. I'm a nonreader who has been surrounded by readers so I'm aware of the phenomena. My former neighbor was banned or exiled. I heard her weeping bitterly when this happened. Before she moved she asked me if I knew why another reader was no longer "talking" to her. I had no idea on any level but for some reason readers assume I have some inside track and that I'm just some reader who has perversely chosen to block which to the best of my knowledge is not the case. I suggested it might have something to do with her divorce and their friendship with her ex. Then she did the characteristic annoyed "no" and looking aside pose which I have seen many times before when I reply on the overt superficial level which is in fact my only level of communication. My question is are there any other reasons for being banned or exiled beyond talking about it with nonreaders. (She never talked about it with me BTW but she did give me quite a few clues.) Are exiles or bans always permanent or can the sentence be of shorter duration? Can the ban be partial, for example, provided limited but not comprehensive access to the noosphere?
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I'm thinking that you have some kind of a connection to a high level, hierarchy mediator that other lower level readers are aware of while also still aware that you are a non-reader. This is a mediator who "chimes in" when necessary to communicate to other readers around you, perhaps to help you since you are only able to use the surface level forms of communication. Your neighbor, upon exile, came to you hoping that your mediator might "chime in" when speaking to you and may have been let down if the mediator seemed absent. In other words, when readers like your neighbor come to you for answers while aware that you are a non-reader it is likely that they are not just speaking to you only but to the high-level reader who may be watching you for whatever reason.

There are different forms of banishment and exile, depending on the level of a reader and the type of violation committed. For example, exile for a subtly-aware reader is less extreme than for a an exiled reader such as myself.

Another reason why a reader can be exiled and blocked from the telepathic connection is because of communication with the uncontrollable subsections of the atmosphere of thought that connects everyone. Readers communicate best with those who are "like-minded." There are cultural, genetic, chemical and other factors that make people like-minded. There are areas that are considered off limits, areas that the Hierarchy would like to limit. It's possible that your neighbor was connecting with one of these uncontrollable subsections that the hierarchy considers off-limits for readers.

Exile is not always permanent. My exile is most likely permanent but it's funny how the hierarchy allows me to be subtly aware at times when it is convenient for them.
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Thanks for your reply. Makes sense. Could you tell us more about the uncontrollable subsections? Sounds like the Wild West of the noosphere.
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The idea that 9 out of 10 people are in on something that I'm not can make me somewhat paranoid

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The idea that 9 out of 10 people are in on something that I'm not can make me somewhat paranoid

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To quote the canadian AC from before "Just because you are paranoid does not mean you are not being followed, or whatever."
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OP, a few times you and other readers have mentioned feeling some guilt about telling. Something about the consequences of finally knowing for the nonreader being worse than living out life not knowing. I can tell you from personal experience as a nonreader that it is better to find out early in life. I did not.

In this thread nonreading has been compared to a disability. But there is a big difference. When you have a disability, such as being deaf for example, you know you are deaf and that most others are not. You make adjustments in life accordingly and you still live life fully. There is no question of what is wrong with you and what can be done. When you are a nonreader you go through life wondering what is wrong and there is no answer just a mystery even though others have the answer or some sort of answer.

Not being told is a kind of cruelty because the nonreader is left floundering, wasting time dealing with a mystery and suffering all sorts of iatrogenic disorders as a result. Being told early in life, but not so early that it would interfere with the development of the ability, would be a blessing because it enables adaptation early and living a fuller life. Being denied the truth by readers seems quite evil imho.

Knowing late in life for the nonreader is much worse than knowing early in life. It fosters a lot of resentment, anger and bitterness. This is not resentment at being a nonreader but anger at readers for having kept it a secret. I think I understand what Samuel Clemens felt. If only I had known, I would have adjusted my life accordingly. I think your book will perform a great service. Never feel guilty about it.
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Yes, guilt at times wondering if I might be spoiling a surprise for some who have not been let in and potentially ruining their chances or from the possibility that some non-readers may not be able to handle the information and could be bothered by the reality. But it seems they are giving up on the guilt tactics and have taken on approaches far more devious. Thank you for your kind words, it is inspiring to hear from a non-reader that this information is helpful, I too hope that the book will provide a great service.

It is cruel to deny this information from non-readers and I have never quite understood why there couldn't be a system worked out where non-readers would be able to learn about this info while making it so they could only talk about it in certain places. Like simply considering it indecent to speak about in public rather than keeping the secret from non-readers all together. I guess that is not really feasible; how could a non-reader learn about this and be expected to discuss this info in a private setting and only with others who have not been let in yet, especially when they don't have the ability to identify who is a reader and who is not?

It's become more apparent since my exile that it is more about control, as well as a guard for the other secrets, as you have also suggested. Many non-readers are selected to stay that way because they are considered some type of threat to the Hierarchy for whatever reason.
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I totally agree. It is more about control and exclusion, than it is about communication via the noosphere Otherwise language and telecommunications would not have developed to the degree that they have. The hive masters intervene as they deem necessary and are able to control what most of us say and do and how we perceive and react to others.

I meet with a group regularly to talk. One member was broaching mind reading territory and just as I thought this would be the perfect opportunity to mention this thread another member quickly interrupted and totally changed the focus of the conversation. I had long suspected the diverter was a reader.
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Speech seems to be used by readers for dominating the situation, deceiving others and veiling one’s own thoughts. There is more finality to the spoken word as well.

As said before readers are of varying abilities and strengths, so when one reader addresses a crowd of varying abilities, speech was developed as a way for everyone in the group to hear and process the message at the same time and in the same manner. Of course people process this information differently from one another, speaking out loud is a faster and more certain way to send a message to a group than telepathy, unless you are of course the Headmaster or another talented reader in the Hierarchy.

It’s estimated by some that a person has anywhere from 15,000 to 70,000 thoughts a day. Many happen in what seems to readers as a type of cluster of thoughts that one doesn’t have complete control over what other readers see.

Most of the readers in the hive are only subtly aware and they love to hear the sound of their own voice. When two readers get together, especially when they are of equal strengths there is a tendency to try and control the situation with speech.

One way a reader pierces the veil of another is by speaking to them out loud. The reader being spoken to is processing the others voice while the reader speaking not only watches the micro expressions but reads the clusters of reactions coming from inside the person being spoken to.

Many readers read other readers by speaking incessantly while never allowing the other to get a word in. By speaking out loud, one reader has the ability to overpower another reader’s attention span and limit the other to what is being said out loud. Very helpful if one is saying something that is completely opposite to what they are thinking, The person being spoken to has a harder time reading the speaker in some cases, if the reader speaking can speak to the other to the point of exhausting the listener. If the reader being spoken to has stronger abilities than the reader speaking, then obviously the technique of trying to control the attention with continuous speech will not work.


In a crowd situation, the hive minders tend to think that the loudest person in the room is the “right one” or the one “who wins. “ If someone is quiet or hesitant in their speech during an exchange with another reader in front of a group of readers of varying levels, even though its likely that the other people in the room can read the speakers minds to some extent, if they aren’t the loudest and most confident, then they are perceived as being the wrong one or the one who lost. When two talented readers speak in front of a group of lower-level or subtly aware readers the only way they can be sure that what is being communicated is effectively directing the groups attention towards what is being communicated is by speaking out loud.
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For me, this thread is either 100% true or 100% BS. Either scenario is absolutely frightening because I tend to believe the former, or at least a similar theory/explanation. IF true, it explains a LOT and a sneaking suspicion that I have had since I was 17ish. If it is not true, I must be delusional/schizophrenic/psychotic, or at least were.
I have had so many things happen such as complete strangers saying random things that I have been thinking out of the clear blue, people trying to "lead" me to some "truth" with their thoughts, people hearing what I said and then seeming they were having a side conversation about it telepathically, etc.
At times, mostly many years ago, I have felt that I was so "close" to the truth that I nearly discovered it, but failed and was then "shut out" of the knowledge. I did not know what would happen once I finally learned this truth, but have imagined everything from a group of people knocking on my door saying "congratulations, you got it" to a "portal" opening up and allowing me to walk through.
Most of these "things" happened when I was deeply involved in hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, Psilocybin mushroom, even Methamphetamine in my late teens/early 20's. I am 30 now and haven't given it much thought since then. Since that time, I have kind of moved past it and moved on with my life, but it has always been at the back of my brain on some level, to some degree. I guess I chalked it up to temporary psychosis from the drugs, in fact a court-ordered psychiatrist said that to me, when I broached the subject with him.
There are certain things that I know to be fact, due to experiential confirmation in my life. Some of those things are that Jesus Christ is God, I am His son, He created the heavens and Earth and all that in them are, the Bible is His revelation, all men live, die and face Him on judgment day to give an account of their life, etc. These truths have been so convincingly confirmed in my life that I will believe them until the day that I die, without the slightest possible chance of doubting their accuracy.
Beyond that however, I am once again at a loss as to all of this kind of stuff fits in.
I am, and always have been, a skeptic by nature. Short of God opening up Heaven and Earth to show me His truth, I have a hard time believing anything on face value. Well, that about sums it up. This thread confirms one of two things, and like I said, both scenarios are absolutely frightening.
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Just an odd story I want to pass along to the OP to get his/her opinion without signing into the atmosphereofthought site. I'm a nonreader who has been surrounded by readers so I'm aware of the phenomena. My former neighbor was banned or exiled. I heard her weeping bitterly when this happened. Before she moved she asked me if I knew why another reader was no longer "talking" to her. I had no idea on any level but for some reason readers assume I have some inside track and that I'm just some reader who has perversely chosen to block which to the best of my knowledge is not the case. I suggested it might have something to do with her divorce and their friendship with her ex. Then she did the characteristic annoyed "no" and looking aside pose which I have seen many times before when I reply on the overt superficial level which is in fact my only level of communication. My question is are there any other reasons for being banned or exiled beyond talking about it with nonreaders. (She never talked about it with me BTW but she did give me quite a few clues.) Are exiles or bans always permanent or can the sentence be of shorter duration? Can the ban be partial, for example, provided limited but not comprehensive access to the noosphere?
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I'm thinking that you have some kind of a connection to a high level, hierarchy mediator that other lower level readers are aware of while also still aware that you are a non-reader. This is a mediator who "chimes in" when necessary to communicate to other readers around you, perhaps to help you since you are only able to use the surface level forms of communication. Your neighbor, upon exile, came to you hoping that your mediator might "chime in" when speaking to you and may have been let down if the mediator seemed absent. In other words, when readers like your neighbor come to you for answers while aware that you are a non-reader it is likely that they are not just speaking to you only but to the high-level reader who may be watching you for whatever reason.

There are different forms of banishment and exile, depending on the level of a reader and the type of violation committed. For example, exile for a subtly-aware reader is less extreme than for a an exiled reader such as myself.

Another reason why a reader can be exiled and blocked from the telepathic connection is because of communication with the uncontrollable subsections of the atmosphere of thought that connects everyone. Readers communicate best with those who are "like-minded." There are cultural, genetic, chemical and other factors that make people like-minded. There are areas that are considered off limits, areas that the Hierarchy would like to limit. It's possible that your neighbor was connecting with one of these uncontrollable subsections that the hierarchy considers off-limits for readers.

Exile is not always permanent. My exile is most likely permanent but it's funny how the hierarchy allows me to be subtly aware at times when it is convenient for them.
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At those times you are the "handyman", basically an individual of convenience, who is handy for their purposes at that time and place. I don't know if all readers use this term, a euphemism I've heard before. I'd also like to know if everyone one can be utilized in this way.
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OP, a few times you and other readers have mentioned feeling some guilt about telling. Something about the consequences of finally knowing for the nonreader being worse than living out life not knowing. I can tell you from personal experience as a nonreader that it is better to find out early in life. I did not.

In this thread nonreading has been compared to a disability. But there is a big difference. When you have a disability, such as being deaf for example, you know you are deaf and that most others are not. You make adjustments in life accordingly and you still live life fully. There is no question of what is wrong with you and what can be done. When you are a nonreader you go through life wondering what is wrong and there is no answer just a mystery even though others have the answer or some sort of answer.

Not being told is a kind of cruelty because the nonreader is left floundering, wasting time dealing with a mystery and suffering all sorts of iatrogenic disorders as a result. Being told early in life, but not so early that it would interfere with the development of the ability, would be a blessing because it enables adaptation early and living a fuller life. Being denied the truth by readers seems quite evil imho.

Knowing late in life for the nonreader is much worse than knowing early in life. It fosters a lot of resentment, anger and bitterness. This is not resentment at being a nonreader but anger at readers for having kept it a secret. I think I understand what Samuel Clemens felt. If only I had known, I would have adjusted my life accordingly. I think your book will perform a great service. Never feel guilty about it.
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Yes, guilt at times wondering if I might be spoiling a surprise for some who have not been let in and potentially ruining their chances or from the possibility that some non-readers may not be able to handle the information and could be bothered by the reality. But it seems they are giving up on the guilt tactics and have taken on approaches far more devious. Thank you for your kind words, it is inspiring to hear from a non-reader that this information is helpful, I too hope that the book will provide a great service.

It is cruel to deny this information from non-readers and I have never quite understood why there couldn't be a system worked out where non-readers would be able to learn about this info while making it so they could only talk about it in certain places. Like simply considering it indecent to speak about in public rather than keeping the secret from non-readers all together. I guess that is not really feasible; how could a non-reader learn about this and be expected to discuss this info in a private setting and only with others who have not been let in yet, especially when they don't have the ability to identify who is a reader and who is not?

It's become more apparent since my exile that it is more about control, as well as a guard for the other secrets, as you have also suggested. Many non-readers are selected to stay that way because they are considered some type of threat to the Hierarchy for whatever reason.
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I totally agree. It is more about control and exclusion, than it is about communication via the noosphere Otherwise language and telecommunications would not have developed to the degree that they have. The hive masters intervene as they deem necessary and are able to control what most of us say and do and how we perceive and react to others.

I meet with a group regularly to talk. One member was broaching mind reading territory and just as I thought this would be the perfect opportunity to mention this thread another member quickly interrupted and totally changed the focus of the conversation. I had long suspected the diverter was a reader.
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Speech seems to be used by readers for dominating the situation, deceiving others and veiling one’s own thoughts. There is more finality to the spoken word as well.

As said before readers are of varying abilities and strengths, so when one reader addresses a crowd of varying abilities, speech was developed as a way for everyone in the group to hear and process the message at the same time and in the same manner. Of course people process this information differently from one another, speaking out loud is a faster and more certain way to send a message to a group than telepathy, unless you are of course the Headmaster or another talented reader in the Hierarchy.

It’s estimated by some that a person has anywhere from 15,000 to 70,000 thoughts a day. Many happen in what seems to readers as a type of cluster of thoughts that one doesn’t have complete control over what other readers see.

Most of the readers in the hive are only subtly aware and they love to hear the sound of their own voice. When two readers get together, especially when they are of equal strengths there is a tendency to try and control the situation with speech.

One way a reader pierces the veil of another is by speaking to them out loud. The reader being spoken to is processing the others voice while the reader speaking not only watches the micro expressions but reads the clusters of reactions coming from inside the person being spoken to.

Many readers read other readers by speaking incessantly while never allowing the other to get a word in. By speaking out loud, one reader has the ability to overpower another reader’s attention span and limit the other to what is being said out loud. Very helpful if one is saying something that is completely opposite to what they are thinking, The person being spoken to has a harder time reading the speaker in some cases, if the reader speaking can speak to the other to the point of exhausting the listener. If the reader being spoken to has stronger abilities than the reader speaking, then obviously the technique of trying to control the attention with continuous speech will not work.


In a crowd situation, the hive minders tend to think that the loudest person in the room is the “right one” or the one “who wins. “ If someone is quiet or hesitant in their speech during an exchange with another reader in front of a group of readers of varying levels, even though its likely that the other people in the room can read the speakers minds to some extent, if they aren’t the loudest and most confident, then they are perceived as being the wrong one or the one who lost. When two talented readers speak in front of a group of lower-level or subtly aware readers the only way they can be sure that what is being communicated is effectively directing the groups attention towards what is being communicated is by speaking out loud.
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That's interesting and thanks for the info. I can think of a number of times individuals I've suspected of being readers have not let me get a word in edgewise. I thought they were just being rude. Certainly it controls the conversation on the overt level. But in my situation they weren't trying to subvert my ability to read them because I can't. It some cases it could have been that they were attempting to block the mediator who "chimes-in" referred to by the OP in a previous post. In other cases based on what they said they were simply demonstrating that they had already read my mind on the matter mirroring as yet unspoken thoughts.
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For me, this thread is either 100% true or 100% BS. Either scenario is absolutely frightening because I tend to believe the former, or at least a similar theory/explanation. IF true, it explains a LOT and a sneaking suspicion that I have had since I was 17ish. If it is not true, I must be delusional/schizophrenic/psychotic, or at least were.
I have had so many things happen such as complete strangers saying random things that I have been thinking out of the clear blue, people trying to "lead" me to some "truth" with their thoughts, people hearing what I said and then seeming they were having a side conversation about it telepathically, etc.
At times, mostly many years ago, I have felt that I was so "close" to the truth that I nearly discovered it, but failed and was then "shut out" of the knowledge. I did not know what would happen once I finally learned this truth, but have imagined everything from a group of people knocking on my door saying "congratulations, you got it" to a "portal" opening up and allowing me to walk through.
Most of these "things" happened when I was deeply involved in hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, Psilocybin mushroom, even Methamphetamine in my late teens/early 20's. I am 30 now and haven't given it much thought since then. Since that time, I have kind of moved past it and moved on with my life, but it has always been at the back of my brain on some level, to some degree. I guess I chalked it up to temporary psychosis from the drugs, in fact a court-ordered psychiatrist said that to me, when I broached the subject with him.
There are certain things that I know to be fact, due to experiential confirmation in my life. Some of those things are that Jesus Christ is God, I am His son, He created the heavens and Earth and all that in them are, the Bible is His revelation, all men live, die and face Him on judgment day to give an account of their life, etc. These truths have been so convincingly confirmed in my life that I will believe them until the day that I die, without the slightest possible chance of doubting their accuracy.
Beyond that however, I am once again at a loss as to all of this kind of stuff fits in.
I am, and always have been, a skeptic by nature. Short of God opening up Heaven and Earth to show me His truth, I have a hard time believing anything on face value. Well, that about sums it up. This thread confirms one of two things, and like I said, both scenarios are absolutely frightening.
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I too am a skeptic and one of two things happen to skeptics. They either continue on blissfully blind or are hit over the head in a way that incapacitates them. There is no middle of the road. If you fall in the latter category at a young age and 30 is definitely still young imo you must be very carefully not to neglect building the life of your aspirations to the best of your ability. You won't find any answers down the rabbit hole although you will be lured by being tricked into thinking the answer is just a little beyond. To be at a loss about this is to be human. Thanks for your wonderful post.
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For me, this thread is either 100% true or 100% BS. Either scenario is absolutely frightening because I tend to believe the former, or at least a similar theory/explanation. IF true, it explains a LOT and a sneaking suspicion that I have had since I was 17ish. If it is not true, I must be delusional/schizophrenic/psychotic, or at least were.
I have had so many things happen such as complete strangers saying random things that I have been thinking out of the clear blue, people trying to "lead" me to some "truth" with their thoughts, people hearing what I said and then seeming they were having a side conversation about it telepathically, etc.
At times, mostly many years ago, I have felt that I was so "close" to the truth that I nearly discovered it, but failed and was then "shut out" of the knowledge. I did not know what would happen once I finally learned this truth, but have imagined everything from a group of people knocking on my door saying "congratulations, you got it" to a "portal" opening up and allowing me to walk through.
Most of these "things" happened when I was deeply involved in hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, Psilocybin mushroom, even Methamphetamine in my late teens/early 20's. I am 30 now and haven't given it much thought since then. Since that time, I have kind of moved past it and moved on with my life, but it has always been at the back of my brain on some level, to some degree. I guess I chalked it up to temporary psychosis from the drugs, in fact a court-ordered psychiatrist said that to me, when I broached the subject with him.
There are certain things that I know to be fact, due to experiential confirmation in my life. Some of those things are that Jesus Christ is God, I am His son, He created the heavens and Earth and all that in them are, the Bible is His revelation, all men live, die and face Him on judgment day to give an account of their life, etc. These truths have been so convincingly confirmed in my life that I will believe them until the day that I die, without the slightest possible chance of doubting their accuracy.
Beyond that however, I am once again at a loss as to all of this kind of stuff fits in.
I am, and always have been, a skeptic by nature. Short of God opening up Heaven and Earth to show me His truth, I have a hard time believing anything on face value. Well, that about sums it up. This thread confirms one of two things, and like I said, both scenarios are absolutely frightening.
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I too am a skeptic and one of two things happen to skeptics. They either continue on blissfully blind or are hit over the head in a way that incapacitates them. There is no middle of the road. If you fall in the latter category at a young age and 30 is definitely still young imo you must be very carefully not to neglect building the life of your aspirations to the best of your ability. You won't find any answers down the rabbit hole although you will be lured by being tricked into thinking the answer is just a little beyond. To be at a loss about this is to be human. Thanks for your wonderful post.
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hf thanks bro
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For me, this thread is either 100% true or 100% BS. Either scenario is absolutely frightening because I tend to believe the former, or at least a similar theory/explanation. IF true, it explains a LOT and a sneaking suspicion that I have had since I was 17ish. If it is not true, I must be delusional/schizophrenic/psychotic, or at least were.
I have had so many things happen such as complete strangers saying random things that I have been thinking out of the clear blue, people trying to "lead" me to some "truth" with their thoughts, people hearing what I said and then seeming they were having a side conversation about it telepathically, etc.
At times, mostly many years ago, I have felt that I was so "close" to the truth that I nearly discovered it, but failed and was then "shut out" of the knowledge. I did not know what would happen once I finally learned this truth, but have imagined everything from a group of people knocking on my door saying "congratulations, you got it" to a "portal" opening up and allowing me to walk through.
Most of these "things" happened when I was deeply involved in hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD, Psilocybin mushroom, even Methamphetamine in my late teens/early 20's. I am 30 now and haven't given it much thought since then. Since that time, I have kind of moved past it and moved on with my life, but it has always been at the back of my brain on some level, to some degree. I guess I chalked it up to temporary psychosis from the drugs, in fact a court-ordered psychiatrist said that to me, when I broached the subject with him.
There are certain things that I know to be fact, due to experiential confirmation in my life. Some of those things are that Jesus Christ is God, I am His son, He created the heavens and Earth and all that in them are, the Bible is His revelation, all men live, die and face Him on judgment day to give an account of their life, etc. These truths have been so convincingly confirmed in my life that I will believe them until the day that I die, without the slightest possible chance of doubting their accuracy.
Beyond that however, I am once again at a loss as to all of this kind of stuff fits in.
I am, and always have been, a skeptic by nature. Short of God opening up Heaven and Earth to show me His truth, I have a hard time believing anything on face value. Well, that about sums it up. This thread confirms one of two things, and like I said, both scenarios are absolutely frightening.
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I too am a skeptic and one of two things happen to skeptics. They either continue on blissfully blind or are hit over the head in a way that incapacitates them. There is no middle of the road. If you fall in the latter category at a young age and 30 is definitely still young imo you must be very carefully not to neglect building the life of your aspirations to the best of your ability. You won't find any answers down the rabbit hole although you will be lured by being tricked into thinking the answer is just a little beyond. To be at a loss about this is to be human. Thanks for your wonderful post.
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hf thanks bro
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Every single thing you said is TRUE..

I wanna first say, I seen the several paragraphs of texts and your avatar and KNEW that I would be enlightened when reading the first sentence. I felt(feel) the exact same way.. Like, life IS going on, but since anything is possible, I can like open up my bedroom door and the hallway COULD be like a portal or a pathway into another realm..

Then you started to talk about LSD and SHROOMS, which I did a few times and I felt as if I knew Christianity so much that I realized I knew NOTHING, because I sin sin sin sin sin, and even after repenting I sin again thinking what I do isn't to bad. Basically sexual sin (pre-martial sex, masturbation, lust, weird fetishes) and smoking cigs..

I am on the fence tho, if that makes sense.. Only because I am confused... Like, am I already to late? AM I already destined for hell? My acid and shroom trips basically told me YES, but it gets deeper.. Like, everything around me is just apart of my imagination, a mere test to see how I react/interact.. And because I have been going down a stupid road for most of my life, being in my early twenties, that there is NOTHING I CAN DO to be saved.

I feel as if most people want to be saved to avoid hell, not even caring about Heaven, Jesus, God, etc....Which makes me feel even less worthy because I fear HELL.

I just don't agree with alot of stuff, like.. People say you were brought to earth because you choose it.. AT THIS POINT in time I don't THINK I chose it, but since our conscious levels arent as high as they could be, maybe I (we) just don't remember. But its fucked up saying I wish I was never born, it seems safer then being born into SHIT and having to believe something or else going to en eternal shithole after leaving the shithole we're already in.

I wish it wasn't about Faith, because the humans around us who don't believe call the ones that do nutcases, which doesn't..or hasn't made me feel any better..

I went to hell during my TRIPS and never want to go back, and hope I don't go there when I die in the flesh. EGODEATH is the scariest thing anyone could go through.
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Just to add to it, there are no coincidences in life.. think about yesterday and before yesterday. the way the universe works, the way reproduction works, the way the atmosphere works, the way our brains work, tastebuds, sight, hearing, etc.

Evolution is a joke, we didn't adapt to our environnments just for simply living here, the environment was designed and the living forms were designed to live and reproduce here. Everything goes hand and hand, thats why evil exists, to appreciate the good and to work on making good things better.

Roaches were created to give you a reason to keep your domain clean.. get it?

I literally think I was meant to be in this thread (which I found thru another thread) just to read your post.. and coincidently you did lsd and shrooms, which have been on my mind for a while because I am still mind fucked over it..

I kept saying JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS for like an hour and HE made my trip end, I regretted doing it but I probably will grow more and try em again.. uggh.. I wish Jesus would come back NOW! But I guess many people would miss being saved..including myself because I KNOW IF I DIED RIGHT NOW.. I would wish I was alive to do GOOD, not wack off and have sex without being married.. Which I know ill probably do again tomorrow.. uggh temptation sucks.
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Oh yeah, also I don't like to call it "Karma" but I think that the definition exists to the word..

Like, I quit alot of jobs without notice, not giving a crap, thinking..oh well they can just replace me...or my favorite "The company was there before me so will it be after".. I guess just to justify the urge to just walk out..

Now I have a few charges and can't get a job at burger king until i pay the sitation.

Basically, the grass is always greener on the otherside, or you never really know what ya got till its gone.. You learn the easy way or the hard way.. Had I kept those jobs in the past maybe events would of been different to the point where I would of never got these couple charges, or if I did get them atleast i'd have employment... But then on the contrast if I did keep those jobs maybe I wouldn't of learned the lessons I did..

like, whats good can result to bad which can result to good.. or.. what you did bad can result to good.. its weird.. but NO coincidences..
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