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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507763 United States 05/20/2012 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: bvndy Yes it is. The only thing not "allowed" is threats, or conversation involving a conspriacy to kill the P.O.T.U.S. Everything else is protected political speech. As a matter of fact, being a public figure, the prez actually has less rights than a private citizen, and even if he could file charges they would be civil, not criminal. One good thing Osama (oops...obama) has done is demonstrate what hypocrital racsists black folks can be. No, slander is not allowed. I love idiots on here. Funny. Again, WHERE WAS THE SLANDER??!! Once again -- moron -- people are saying kids are allowed to say ANYTHING they want in the classroom. My point is -- they are not. And not only is slander an EXAMPLE of what they are not allowed to say, teachers are allowed to LIMIT speech more for educational purposes. How many times MORON can't you figure that out? You are not qualified to call anybody a moron. Not by a long shot. People are SAYING that these kids didn't say anything wrong, NOT that they're allowed to say anything. Selective reading or illiteracy on your part, I'm afraid. Teachers don't have to tolerate abusive language or provocative speech, NOT facts they don't want to hear. |
Awakened In Christ User ID: 13858916 United States 05/20/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The teacher yells -- literally yells -- that Obama is “due the respect that every other president is due … Listen,” she continues, “let me tell you something, you will not disrespect the president of the United States in this classroom.” She yells over the student repeatedly, and yells at him that it's disrespect for him to even debate about Romney and Obama. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain The student says that he can say what he wants. “Not about him, you won’t,” says the teacher. The teacher then tells the student – wrongly – that it is a criminal offense to say bad things about a president. “Do you realize that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush? Do you realize you are not supposed to slander the president?” The student says that it would violate First Amendment rights to jail someone for such sentiments. “You would have to say some pretty f’d up crap about him to be arrested,” says the student. “They cannot take away your right to have your opinion … They can’t take that away unless you threaten the president.” Garbage like this from this teacher goes on everyday in classrooms all over the country. [link to www.breitbart.com] Just wow! [link to www.youtube.com] Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever, is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, If there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, let your mind dwell on these things. ~Philippians 4:8 ~Romans 8:31-32~ 31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16380170 United States 05/20/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again -- moron -- people are saying kids are allowed to say ANYTHING they want in the classroom. My point is -- they are not. And not only is slander an EXAMPLE of what they are not allowed to say, teachers are allowed to LIMIT speech more for educational purposes. How many times MORON can't you figure that out? You are not qualified to call anybody a moron. Not by a long shot. People are SAYING that these kids didn't say anything wrong, NOT that they're allowed to say anything. Selective reading or illiteracy on your part, I'm afraid. Teachers don't have to tolerate abusive language or provocative speech, NOT facts they don't want to hear. No, once again, the teacher said it is illegal to say WHATEVER you wanted, which is true, since slander is illegal. How many times do you morons not get it? On the other hand, the teacher is also right in limiting speech in class and the morons on here who don't get that also seem to be the type who never made it through 5th grade, which is why they speak on a very simple level which is just simply not true to reality. |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain (OP) User ID: 14931439 United States 05/20/2012 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no idea how wrong you are. This is still the United States. Not Cuba, not Venezuela, not Saudi Arabia. You have no idea how wrong you are. This is still the United States. Not Cuba, not Venezuela, not Saudi Arabia. And YOU have never taught in a classroom with a bunch of hateful, mouthy kids who think they can spout off any awful thing that pops into their immature head. Here ^^ we have a perfect example of an incompetent, unhinged teacher who is protected by her thug union. And what "popped" into that student's head was 100% correct. The teacher was wrong and the student was right. If that student didn't correct the teacher, the rest of the students would have been given misinformation. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12201362 United States 05/20/2012 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: bvndy Yes it is. The only thing not "allowed" is threats, or conversation involving a conspriacy to kill the P.O.T.U.S. Everything else is protected political speech. As a matter of fact, being a public figure, the prez actually has less rights than a private citizen, and even if he could file charges they would be civil, not criminal. One good thing Osama (oops...obama) has done is demonstrate what hypocrital racsists black folks can be. No, slander is not allowed. I love idiots on here. Funny. Again, WHERE WAS THE SLANDER??!! Once again -- moron -- people are saying kids are allowed to say ANYTHING they want in the classroom. My point is -- they are not. And not only is slander an EXAMPLE of what they are not allowed to say, teachers are allowed to LIMIT speech more for educational purposes. How many times MORON can't you figure that out? It would probably have to be in conflict with the school's speech codes--which generally can only limit DISRUPTIVE speech. But, even if the district here had a relevant speech code, what school policy would allow a teacher to arbitrarily shut down a kid from speaking just because she disagreed with his message? Especially if other political opinions were allowed and being expressed? Do you honestly think a court would rule in favor of the teacher (i.e., the school) here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16380170 United States 05/20/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again -- moron -- people are saying kids are allowed to say ANYTHING they want in the classroom. My point is -- they are not. And not only is slander an EXAMPLE of what they are not allowed to say, teachers are allowed to LIMIT speech more for educational purposes. How many times MORON can't you figure that out? It would probably have to be in conflict with the school's speech codes--which generally can only limit DISRUPTIVE speech. But, even if the district here had a relevant speech code, what school policy would allow a teacher to arbitrarily shut down a kid from speaking just because she disagreed with his message? Especially if other political opinions were allowed and being expressed? Do you honestly think a court would rule in favor of the teacher (i.e., the school) here? Yes, a kid can just say whatever they want, whenever they want... skip math, just let them talk about rap songs all day... who is the teacher to try to get them to learn about evolution, when the kids can cite Genesis to them all day... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507763 United States 05/20/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again -- moron -- people are saying kids are allowed to say ANYTHING they want in the classroom. My point is -- they are not. And not only is slander an EXAMPLE of what they are not allowed to say, teachers are allowed to LIMIT speech more for educational purposes. How many times MORON can't you figure that out? You are not qualified to call anybody a moron. Not by a long shot. People are SAYING that these kids didn't say anything wrong, NOT that they're allowed to say anything. Selective reading or illiteracy on your part, I'm afraid. Teachers don't have to tolerate abusive language or provocative speech, NOT facts they don't want to hear. No, once again, the teacher said it is illegal to say WHATEVER you wanted, which is true, since slander is illegal. How many times do you morons not get it? On the other hand, the teacher is also right in limiting speech in class and the morons on here who don't get that also seem to be the type who never made it through 5th grade, which is why they speak on a very simple level which is just simply not true to reality. So what was the point of her saying that? I didn't hear once anything REMOTELY illegal or slanderous. Everything said by the students was documented in "Dreams From My Father". So let's review...slander? Nope. Illegal? Nope. Ok, THAT'S debunked. "The teacher is right in limiting speech." Why? The discussion was about presidential candidates (which Obama is). So why are FACTUAL statements about BOTH candidates not allowed? Finally, about those "morons" you criticize for their alleged shortcomings in speech. If you're going to berate somebody for their intellectual capacity or speaking ability, shouldn't you be able to construct a decent, literate sentence that doesn't run on and has appropriately placed commas? We're done here. Have a nice day! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14708718 United States 05/20/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can't believe the tards in this thread. even with a school standard, there was no slander. prez has a book, so these are facts. teacher should acknowledge that student has a point and MOVE ON. problem is, teacher is not only unqualified to teach the facts of the matter, teacher is unqualified to run a classroom. she cares more about arguing her prejudices with the student than letting it go and moving on. she shouldn't be there, she's incompetent factually, emotionally, and intellectually. |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain (OP) User ID: 14931439 United States 05/20/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That about sums it up. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 05/20/2012 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The teacher yells -- literally yells -- that Obama is “due the respect that every other president is due … Listen,” she continues, “let me tell you something, you will not disrespect the president of the United States in this classroom.” She yells over the student repeatedly, and yells at him that it's disrespect for him to even debate about Romney and Obama. Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain The student says that he can say what he wants. “Not about him, you won’t,” says the teacher. The teacher then tells the student – wrongly – that it is a criminal offense to say bad things about a president. “Do you realize that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush? Do you realize you are not supposed to slander the president?” The student says that it would violate First Amendment rights to jail someone for such sentiments. “You would have to say some pretty f’d up crap about him to be arrested,” says the student. “They cannot take away your right to have your opinion … They can’t take that away unless you threaten the president.” Garbage like this from this teacher goes on everyday in classrooms all over the country. [link to www.breitbart.com] [link to www.youtube.com] This is a teacher? She sounds like a hysterical idiot. |
truthwillsetyoufreeagain (OP) User ID: 14931439 United States 05/20/2012 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the video I mentioned earlier. What this obama lover teacher, who walks around with an obama pin on her blouse, told the student is that if she supports McCain and he wins, her father will be in Iraq for another 100 years. That is besides all the other things she did that was despicable in this clip. Ignore the first 15 seconds, as this was taken from a foreign documentary. Last Edited by truthwillsetyoufreeagain on 05/20/2012 02:34 PM ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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truthwillsetyoufreeagain (OP) User ID: 14931439 United States 05/20/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: bvndy Yes it is. The only thing not "allowed" is threats, or conversation involving a conspriacy to kill the P.O.T.U.S. Everything else is protected political speech. As a matter of fact, being a public figure, the prez actually has less rights than a private citizen, and even if he could file charges they would be civil, not criminal. One good thing Osama (oops...obama) has done is demonstrate what hypocrital racsists black folks can be. No, slander is not allowed. I love idiots on here. Funny. Again, WHERE WAS THE SLANDER??!! Once again -- moron -- people are saying kids are allowed to say ANYTHING they want in the classroom. My point is -- they are not. And not only is slander an EXAMPLE of what they are not allowed to say, teachers are allowed to LIMIT speech more for educational purposes. How many times MORON can't you figure that out? Look who is calling someone a moran! You and the moran teacher are both WRONG. Where did slander take place? I know what your point is, but we are speaking about THIS teacher in THIS classroom. As the student kept saying, he was just asking a question. He was obviously more informed than that moran teacher. He knew that obama had said he bullied a girl in school. He simply asked "Didn't obama bully a girl?" How is the truth slander? Plus, the student knew the Constitution, unlike the moran teacher. That teacher has got to be an affirmative action teacher. No doubt about it. And teachers aren't allowed to limit speech to tell a lie. Last Edited by truthwillsetyoufreeagain on 05/20/2012 04:19 PM ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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truthwillsetyoufreeagain (OP) User ID: 14931439 United States 05/20/2012 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kid should've just shouldered his pack, walked to the office, and sat it out to the next class when the conflict is over. Better (and more fun) to debate with the principal than some zombie teacher. Quoting: Illuminatvs Primvs Absolutely not. Why should she get away with, at best, misleading the class, and, at worst, indoctrinating the class. That's why parents need to teach their children the truth, instead of letting teachers teach them lies. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
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truthwillsetyoufreeagain (OP) User ID: 14931439 United States 05/20/2012 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They were both wrong. The Teacher should not allow her personal beliefs to interfere while teaching students. The boy was obviously trying to instigate a fight. Both were in the wrong. Quoting: Major_Payne I can't at all see where he was instigating a fight. It was obvious that he knew what she was saying was BS and he was trying to inform her of the truth. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7777013 United States 05/20/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so untrue it's actually verged into being non-true; meaning that it actually makes no sense at all. Free speech is listed along with the right not to be tortured, stolen from, or have your house occupied by troops in peace time. I don't think you're really suggesting that within her classroom, a teacher could violate those other fundamental rights as well? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15927868 United States 05/20/2012 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the armchair activist... Lets take back our classrooms. They can NOT tell our kids what they should do, think or feel. This teacher pushing her political agenda is bull! So lets take action and take over their phones monday morning: North Rowan High School [link to northrowanhighschool.com] 704-636-4420 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2557256 United Kingdom 05/20/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What else is new? I was repeatedly beaten around the head, hit with a wooden stick, screamed, yelled at & punished by being held in detention for a whole week.. cos I didn't 'bow to the Queen's motor convoy' as it passed by. All the other kids waving Union Jack flags, smiling & cheering.. while my 'irish republican' rebel in me refused to even acknowledge her waving at us.. got me into shit trouble.. lol. |