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The real reason why Lucifer fell from Heaven is because of us!

 
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Fall of Satan

12.1 Groaning, the Devil said: "O Adam, all my enmity, jealousy, and resentment is towards you, since on account of you I was expelled and alienated from my glory, which I had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On account of you I was cast out upon the earth."
12.2 Adam answered: "What have I done to you? 12.3 What fault do I have against you? Since you have not been harmed nor injured by us, why do you persecute us?"
13.1 The Devil answered: "Adam what are you saying to me? On account of you I was cast out from heaven.
13.2 When you were formed, I was cast out from the face of God and was sent forth from the company of the angels. When God blew into you the breath of life and your countenance and likeness were made in the image of God, Michael led you and made you worship in the sight of God. The Lord God then said: 'Behold, Adam, I have made you in our image and likeness.'
14.1 Having gone forth Michael called all the angels saying: 'Worship the image of the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded.'
14.2 Michael himself worshipped first then he called me and said: 'Worship the image of God Jehovah.'
14.3 I answered: 'I do not have it within me to worship Adam.' When Michael compelled me to worship, I said to him: 'Why do you compel me? I will not worship him who is lower and posterior to me. I am prior to that creature. Before he was made, I had already been made. He ought to worship me.'
15.1 Hearing this, other angels who were under me were unwilling to worship him.
15.2 Michael said: 'Worship the image of God. If you do not worship, the Lord God will grow angry with you.'
15.3 said: 'If he grows angry with me, I will place my seat above the stars of heaven and I will be like the Most High.' 16.1 Then the Lord God grew angry with me and sent me forth with my angels from our glory. On account of you we were expelled from our dwelling into this world and cast out upon the earth.
16.2 Immediately we were in grief, since we had been despoiled of so much glory,
16.3 and we grieved to see you in such a great happiness of delights. 16:4 By a trick I cheated your wife and caused you to be expelled through her from the delights of your happiness, just as I had been expelled from my glory."
17.1 Hearing this, Adam cried out with a great shout because of the Devil, and said: "O Lord my God, in your hands is my life. Make this adversary of mine be far from me, who seeks to ruin my soul. Give me his glory which he himself lost."
17.2 Immediately the Devil no longer appeared to him.
17.3 Adam truly persevered for forty days standing in penitence in the waters of the Jordan.

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The Life of Adam and Eve: The Biblical Story in Judaism and Christianity
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Gary A. Anderson
The University of Virginia
Michael E. Stone
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.



Read The Complete Book of the Life of Adam and Eve: [link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]
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So much for free-will. Even Lucifer got screwed over 'cuz he did his own thing.
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So much for free-will. Even Lucifer got screwed over 'cuz he did his own thing.
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no he screwed us
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i know this story as written. yes. true
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This legend is met with in Byzantine and Syrian literature, and was incorporated in the Koran (v. Bonwetsch'es 'Questions of Bartholomew,' Göttingen Nachr., 1897, 36 ff.). Apparent traces of it in earlier times are noted by W. Meyer in the Munich Abhandlungen xiv 3, 198. A rabbinic version is given by M. Grünbaum, Neue Beiträge 70. It is related as follows in another Coptic encomium on Michael, attributed to Chrysostom (Paris 1311, 43):
'The angels beheld the likeness and image of God in Adam and they fell down and worshipped him and gave him glory as the likeness of God. But Mastêma, which is Sataniêl, saw the honour that was given to Adam and he was greatly jealous. He stiffened his neck before the Lord and said unto the angels: "it befits not us to worship Adam, for he is virgin (parthenikos) of earth; but we are angels (formed) of flames of fire and honourable, (made) from the elements (hyle pl.) of fire, while he is earth from the earth." And he desired in his wickedness to lead astray (skandalizein) the angels, going in and stiffening his neck before God. But Michael the archangel and all the orders (tagma pl.) of heaven marvelled at the pride of the devil (diabolos) and his vainglory (kenodoxia) and they hardened their hearts against his tyranny (tyrannos) beseeching him daily that he would leave his pride and repent and become humble and remain in his honour. But he would not hear them, but he conceived trouble, &c.' (Ps 7: 15;17).

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dont do as i do , rather , do as your told.
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God formed Adam with His holy hands, in His own Image and Likeness and when the angels saw Adam's glorious appearance they were greatly moved by the beauty thereof. For they saw [Fol. 5a, col. 2] the image of his face burning with glorious splendour like the orb of the sun, and the light of his eyes was like the light of the sun, and the image of his body was like unto the sparkling of crystal. And when he rose at full length and stood upright in the centre of the earth, he planted his two feet on that spot whereon was set up the Cross of our Redeemer; for Adam was created in Jerusalem. There he was arrayed in the apparel of sovereignty, and there was the crown of glory set upon his head, there was he made king, and priest, and prophet, there did God make him to sit upon his honourable throne, and there did God give him dominion over all creatures and things. And all the wild beasts, and all the cattle, and the feathered fowl were gathered together, and they passed before Adam and he assigned names to them; and they bowed their heads before him; and everything in nature worshipped him [Fol. 5b, col. I], and submitted themselves unto him. And the angels and the hosts of heaven heard the Voice of God saying unto him, "Adam, behold; I have made thee king, and priest, and prophet, and lord, and head, and governor of everything which hath been made and created; and they shall be in subjection unto thee) and they shall be thine, and I have given unto thee power over everything which I have created." And when the angels heard this speech they all bowed the knee and worshipped Him.

The Revolt of Satan, and the Battle in Heaven.]
And when the prince of the lower order of angels saw what great majesty had been given unto Adam, he was jealous of him from that day, and he did not wish to worship him. And he said unto his hosts, "Ye shall not worship him, and ye shall not praise him with the angels. It is meet that ye should worship me, because I am fire and spirit; and not that I should worship a thing of dust, which hath been fashioned of fine dust." And the Rebel meditating these things [Fol. 5b, col. 2] would not render obedience to God, and of his own free will he asserted his independence and separated himself from God. But he was - swept away out of heaven and fell, and the fall of himself and of all his company from heaven took place on the "Sâtânâ" because he turned aside [from the right way], and "Shêdâ" because he was cast out, and "Daiwâ" because he lost the apparel of his glory. And behold, from that time until the present day, he and all his hosts have been stripped of their apparel, and they go naked and have horrible faces. And when Sâtânâ was cast out from heaven, Adam was raised up so that he might ascend to Paradise in a chariot of fire And the angels went before him, singing praises, and the Seraphim ascribed holiness unto him, and the Cherubim ascribed blessing; and amid cries of joy and praises Adam went into [Fol. 6a, col. I] Paradise. And as soon as Adam entered Paradise he was commanded not to eat of a [certain] tree; his entrance into heaven took place at the third hour of the Eve of the Sabbath (i.e. on Friday morning).


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The Devil is pissed because he wouldn't worship Adam so he was expelled from Heaven.

And to get even with Adam he tricked Eve into eating the apple..

If Eve wouldn't have eaten the apple everything would be OK..So we have every reason to hate the Devil for what he did to us..
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The Devil is pissed because he wouldn't worship Adam so he was expelled from Heaven.

And to get even with Adam he tricked Eve into eating the apple..

If Eve wouldn't have eaten the apple everything would be OK..So we have every reason to hate the Devil for what he did to us..
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So God and the angels were all just hanging around heaven and God decided to make Adam...


Where did the angels and God come from?

When and how did God create angels?

No explanation for Gods existance or origin?

Shouldn't we have been given an explanation for this?
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On the point of not worshiping the image of the creation as the creator, Sataniel seems to be the only one who had kept up to his own commandments and got kicked from even. He was the only one who did it right and this is why our world is now so messed upon worshiping the image of the angry God and the first ignorant boasted man.
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Lucifer(Satan - Beast) was one of the demons (Djinns) . When God created the first human Adam:

Bakara 34: And behold, We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis(Beast - Satan): he refused and was haughty: he was of those who reject Faith.

11. It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrated; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who bow down.

12. (Allah) said: "What prevented thee from bowing down when I commanded thee?" He said: "I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay."

13. (Allah) said: "Get thee down from it (the Garden): it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures)."

14. He said: "Give me respite till the day they are raised up."

15. (Allah) said: "Be thou among those who have respite."

16. He said: "Because thou hast thrown me out (of the Way), lo! I will lie in wait for them on Thy Straight Way:

17. "Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: Nor wilt Thou find, in most of them, gratitude (for Thy mercies)."

18. (Allah) said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell will I fill with you all.

(Araf 11-18)

119. "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by Allah." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes Satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

120. Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false hopes; but Satan's promises are nothing but deception
(Nisa 119-120)
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So much for free-will. Even Lucifer got screwed over 'cuz he did his own thing.
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He tried to do God's thing... Better than God.

He's a usurper, and a fake.

In other words... He's damn near everyone you're like to encounter.

Better the Devil you know.
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im jealous of the breath too. it has a stank though.
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When you really think about it, isn't it amazing that this incident that occurred millenia ago is still at the heart of everything and forms everything we do in this world. The fall of man - still as pertinent today and many of us still struggling to understand it and all of us still bearing the consequences of it
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Fall of Satan

12.1 Groaning, the Devil said: "O Adam, all my enmity, jealousy, and resentment is towards you, since on account of you I was expelled and alienated from my glory, which I had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On account of you I was cast out upon the earth."
12.2 Adam answered: "What have I done to you? 12.3 What fault do I have against you? Since you have not been harmed nor injured by us, why do you persecute us?"
13.1 The Devil answered: "Adam what are you saying to me? On account of you I was cast out from heaven.
13.2 When you were formed, I was cast out from the face of God and was sent forth from the company of the angels. When God blew into you the breath of life and your countenance and likeness were made in the image of God, Michael led you and made you worship in the sight of God. The Lord God then said: 'Behold, Adam, I have made you in our image and likeness.'
14.1 Having gone forth Michael called all the angels saying: 'Worship the image of the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded.'
14.2 Michael himself worshipped first then he called me and said: 'Worship the image of God Jehovah.'
14.3 I answered: 'I do not have it within me to worship Adam.' When Michael compelled me to worship, I said to him: 'Why do you compel me? I will not worship him who is lower and posterior to me. I am prior to that creature. Before he was made, I had already been made. He ought to worship me.'
15.1 Hearing this, other angels who were under me were unwilling to worship him.
15.2 Michael said: 'Worship the image of God. If you do not worship, the Lord God will grow angry with you.'
15.3 said: 'If he grows angry with me, I will place my seat above the stars of heaven and I will be like the Most High.' 16.1 Then the Lord God grew angry with me and sent me forth with my angels from our glory. On account of you we were expelled from our dwelling into this world and cast out upon the earth.
16.2 Immediately we were in grief, since we had been despoiled of so much glory,
16.3 and we grieved to see you in such a great happiness of delights. 16:4 By a trick I cheated your wife and caused you to be expelled through her from the delights of your happiness, just as I had been expelled from my glory."
17.1 Hearing this, Adam cried out with a great shout because of the Devil, and said: "O Lord my God, in your hands is my life. Make this adversary of mine be far from me, who seeks to ruin my soul. Give me his glory which he himself lost."
17.2 Immediately the Devil no longer appeared to him.
17.3 Adam truly persevered for forty days standing in penitence in the waters of the Jordan.

[link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]

The Life of Adam and Eve: The Biblical Story in Judaism and Christianity
-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Gary A. Anderson
The University of Virginia
Michael E. Stone
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.



Read The Complete Book of the Life of Adam and Eve: [link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]
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That is a work of fiction
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The real reason Lucifer fell is bcos the angels have the same free will man does, bcos you cannot make someone love you.
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Fall of Satan

12.1 Groaning, the Devil said: "O Adam, all my enmity, jealousy, and resentment is towards you, since on account of you I was expelled and alienated from my glory, which I had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On account of you I was cast out upon the earth."
12.2 Adam answered: "What have I done to you? 12.3 What fault do I have against you? Since you have not been harmed nor injured by us, why do you persecute us?"
13.1 The Devil answered: "Adam what are you saying to me? On account of you I was cast out from heaven.
13.2 When you were formed, I was cast out from the face of God and was sent forth from the company of the angels. When God blew into you the breath of life and your countenance and likeness were made in the image of God, Michael led you and made you worship in the sight of God. The Lord God then said: 'Behold, Adam, I have made you in our image and likeness.'
14.1 Having gone forth Michael called all the angels saying: 'Worship the image of the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded.'
14.2 Michael himself worshipped first then he called me and said: 'Worship the image of God Jehovah.'
14.3 I answered: 'I do not have it within me to worship Adam.' When Michael compelled me to worship, I said to him: 'Why do you compel me? I will not worship him who is lower and posterior to me. I am prior to that creature. Before he was made, I had already been made. He ought to worship me.'
15.1 Hearing this, other angels who were under me were unwilling to worship him.
15.2 Michael said: 'Worship the image of God. If you do not worship, the Lord God will grow angry with you.'
15.3 said: 'If he grows angry with me, I will place my seat above the stars of heaven and I will be like the Most High.' 16.1 Then the Lord God grew angry with me and sent me forth with my angels from our glory. On account of you we were expelled from our dwelling into this world and cast out upon the earth.
16.2 Immediately we were in grief, since we had been despoiled of so much glory,
16.3 and we grieved to see you in such a great happiness of delights. 16:4 By a trick I cheated your wife and caused you to be expelled through her from the delights of your happiness, just as I had been expelled from my glory."
17.1 Hearing this, Adam cried out with a great shout because of the Devil, and said: "O Lord my God, in your hands is my life. Make this adversary of mine be far from me, who seeks to ruin my soul. Give me his glory which he himself lost."
17.2 Immediately the Devil no longer appeared to him.
17.3 Adam truly persevered for forty days standing in penitence in the waters of the Jordan.

[link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]

The Life of Adam and Eve: The Biblical Story in Judaism and Christianity
-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Gary A. Anderson
The University of Virginia
Michael E. Stone
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.



Read The Complete Book of the Life of Adam and Eve: [link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 1532724


That is a work of fiction
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Why? I thought you where christian!
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Fall of Satan

12.1 Groaning, the Devil said: "O Adam, all my enmity, jealousy, and resentment is towards you, since on account of you I was expelled and alienated from my glory, which I had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On account of you I was cast out upon the earth."
12.2 Adam answered: "What have I done to you? 12.3 What fault do I have against you? Since you have not been harmed nor injured by us, why do you persecute us?"
13.1 The Devil answered: "Adam what are you saying to me? On account of you I was cast out from heaven.
13.2 When you were formed, I was cast out from the face of God and was sent forth from the company of the angels. When God blew into you the breath of life and your countenance and likeness were made in the image of God, Michael led you and made you worship in the sight of God. The Lord God then said: 'Behold, Adam, I have made you in our image and likeness.'
14.1 Having gone forth Michael called all the angels saying: 'Worship the image of the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded.'
14.2 Michael himself worshipped first then he called me and said: 'Worship the image of God Jehovah.'
14.3 I answered: 'I do not have it within me to worship Adam.' When Michael compelled me to worship, I said to him: 'Why do you compel me? I will not worship him who is lower and posterior to me. I am prior to that creature. Before he was made, I had already been made. He ought to worship me.'
15.1 Hearing this, other angels who were under me were unwilling to worship him.
15.2 Michael said: 'Worship the image of God. If you do not worship, the Lord God will grow angry with you.'
15.3 said: 'If he grows angry with me, I will place my seat above the stars of heaven and I will be like the Most High.' 16.1 Then the Lord God grew angry with me and sent me forth with my angels from our glory. On account of you we were expelled from our dwelling into this world and cast out upon the earth.
16.2 Immediately we were in grief, since we had been despoiled of so much glory,
16.3 and we grieved to see you in such a great happiness of delights. 16:4 By a trick I cheated your wife and caused you to be expelled through her from the delights of your happiness, just as I had been expelled from my glory."
17.1 Hearing this, Adam cried out with a great shout because of the Devil, and said: "O Lord my God, in your hands is my life. Make this adversary of mine be far from me, who seeks to ruin my soul. Give me his glory which he himself lost."
17.2 Immediately the Devil no longer appeared to him.
17.3 Adam truly persevered for forty days standing in penitence in the waters of the Jordan.

[link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]

The Life of Adam and Eve: The Biblical Story in Judaism and Christianity
-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Gary A. Anderson
The University of Virginia
Michael E. Stone
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.



Read The Complete Book of the Life of Adam and Eve: [link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]
 Quoting: Haile Menelik 1532724


That is a work of fiction
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Why? I thought you where christian!
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There is no direct relationship between the New Testament and that book the life of adam and eve
She just goes a little mad sometimes. We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
-Norman Bates

I think that rich people should live like poor people, and poor people should live like rich people, and change every week....
-Tupac Shakur

Somebody help me, tell me where to go from here cause even Thugs cry, but do the Lord care?
-Tupac Shakur

I don't have no fear of death. My only fear is coming back reincarnated.
-Tupac Shakur

I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color.
-Malcolm X

A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
-Malcolm X

When there’s no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.
-Dawn of the Dead

What an excellent day for an exorcism.
-The Exorcist
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Fall of Satan

12.1 Groaning, the Devil said: "O Adam, all my enmity, jealousy, and resentment is towards you, since on account of you I was expelled and alienated from my glory, which I had in heaven in the midst of the angels. On account of you I was cast out upon the earth."
12.2 Adam answered: "What have I done to you? 12.3 What fault do I have against you? Since you have not been harmed nor injured by us, why do you persecute us?"
13.1 The Devil answered: "Adam what are you saying to me? On account of you I was cast out from heaven.
13.2 When you were formed, I was cast out from the face of God and was sent forth from the company of the angels. When God blew into you the breath of life and your countenance and likeness were made in the image of God, Michael led you and made you worship in the sight of God. The Lord God then said: 'Behold, Adam, I have made you in our image and likeness.'
14.1 Having gone forth Michael called all the angels saying: 'Worship the image of the Lord God, just as the Lord God has commanded.'
14.2 Michael himself worshipped first then he called me and said: 'Worship the image of God Jehovah.'
14.3 I answered: 'I do not have it within me to worship Adam.' When Michael compelled me to worship, I said to him: 'Why do you compel me? I will not worship him who is lower and posterior to me. I am prior to that creature. Before he was made, I had already been made. He ought to worship me.'
15.1 Hearing this, other angels who were under me were unwilling to worship him.
15.2 Michael said: 'Worship the image of God. If you do not worship, the Lord God will grow angry with you.'
15.3 said: 'If he grows angry with me, I will place my seat above the stars of heaven and I will be like the Most High.' 16.1 Then the Lord God grew angry with me and sent me forth with my angels from our glory. On account of you we were expelled from our dwelling into this world and cast out upon the earth.
16.2 Immediately we were in grief, since we had been despoiled of so much glory,
16.3 and we grieved to see you in such a great happiness of delights. 16:4 By a trick I cheated your wife and caused you to be expelled through her from the delights of your happiness, just as I had been expelled from my glory."
17.1 Hearing this, Adam cried out with a great shout because of the Devil, and said: "O Lord my God, in your hands is my life. Make this adversary of mine be far from me, who seeks to ruin my soul. Give me his glory which he himself lost."
17.2 Immediately the Devil no longer appeared to him.
17.3 Adam truly persevered for forty days standing in penitence in the waters of the Jordan.

[link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]

The Life of Adam and Eve: The Biblical Story in Judaism and Christianity
-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Gary A. Anderson
The University of Virginia
Michael E. Stone
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.



Read The Complete Book of the Life of Adam and Eve: [link to www2.iath.virginia.edu]
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That is a work of fiction
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Why? I thought you where christian!
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There is no direct relationship between the New Testament and that book the life of adam and eve
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The New Testament doesnt tell about the Fall of Man. The Old testament does. But it does'nt tell what happen in detail! Just like the Book of Henoch, tells in detail what happend before and after the flood this book tells in de detail what happend in the Garden..

This is apocrypha, like the Book of Enoch hidden from you, its up to you to believe it or not..
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The Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan.

PRESENT day controversy that rages around the authenticity of the Scriptures and how human life began on this planet must pause to consider the Adam and Eve story. Where does it come from? What does it mean?


This is the most ancient story in the world--it has survived because it embodies the basic fact of human life. A fact that has not changed one iota; amid all the superficial changes of civilization's vivid array, this fact remains: the conflict of Good and Evil; the fight between Man and the Devil; the eternal struggle of human nature against sin,

That the Adam and Eve story pervaded the thoughts of ancient writers is seen in the large number of versions that exist, or whose existence may be traced, through the writings of Greeks, Syrians, Egyptians, Abyssinians, Hebrews, and other ancient peoples. As a lawyer might say who examines so much apparently unrelated evidence--there must be something back of it.

The version which we give here is the work of unknown Egyptians (the lack of historical allusion makes it impossible to date the writing). Parts of this version are found in the Talmud, the Koran, and elsewhere, showing what a vital rôle it played in the original literature of human wisdom. The Egyptian author first wrote in Arabic (which may be taken as the original manuscript) and that found its way farther south and was translated into Ethiopic. For the present English translation we are indebted to Dr. S. C. Malan, Vicar of Broadwindsor, who worked from the Ethiopic edition edited by Dr. E. Trumpp, Professor at the University of Munich. Dr. Trumpp had the advantage of the Arabic original, which makes our bridge over the gap of many centuries a direct one.

The reading of these books is an adventure. You will find the mind of man fed by the passions, hopes, fears of new and strange

Read: [link to www.sacred-texts.com]
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satan, lucifer - different bs
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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Every teaching is based upon the consciousness or level of understanding of the group of humans for which it was given.

Old testament teachings were for those humans who lived what, 3 to 5000 years ago. The new testament teachings were for people 2000 years ago.

I see various Christian belief systems in pissing matches about what this or that particular scripture is really trying to tell us. You won't have a correct teaching using today's consciousness on information given thousands of years ago.

Divine revelation is ongoing. Jesus said the Holy Spirit would be with us for all time.

It is time for mankind to hear the truth about God or our Creator, the fall of Lucifer, and how all creation is all about balance.

The following is quite a long discourse from Mother Mary. It comes from the "Ask The Real Jesus" website. It may take 40 to 50 minutes to read through, but is needed to understand the breadth of the teaching. If you looking for a 2 minute summery, it can't be done. I hope this helps you spiritual understanding. Namaste!

[link to www.askrealjesus.com]
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Fuck all you Satanic motherfuckers and Lucifer apologist. Fuck your fantasy. The original sin was murder of brother upon brother.

When Set murdered Ausar his brother, that was the Orginal Sin. But if the world knew that man murdering man was the original sin you would not be able to deceive them so easily and convince them to kill each other, this would hurt you plans and your profits.

Mankind lost its innocence when they forgot that this was the true original sin and some made up bullshit of forbidden fruit replaced it.

If we want world peace we need one generation around the world who subscribe to mans murder of man as the original sin.

You fear tis because it will make it impossible to deceive men into killing each other off with war,disease and drugs,thereby hurting your Satanic profits.
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The Devil is pissed because he wouldn't worship Adam so he was expelled from Heaven.

And to get even with Adam he tricked Eve into eating the apple..

If Eve wouldn't have eaten the apple everything would be OK..So we have every reason to hate the Devil for what he did to us..
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What is this "apple" you speak of? Genesis doesn't use that word.
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The Devil is pissed because he wouldn't worship Adam so he was expelled from Heaven.

And to get even with Adam he tricked Eve into eating the apple..

If Eve wouldn't have eaten the apple everything would be OK..So we have every reason to hate the Devil for what he did to us..
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You guys.... balance is everything
I hope you can fit it in.
Spiritual realm:
lucifer.....in charge of worship....praised by all...next to GOD.
SON of GOD revealed.
lucifer refuses to admit and submit.(angels have free will)

lucifer goes haywire and no longer worthy to be in presence of GOD/His son.
levil cast out in to outer darkness.
The moment devil gets his kingdom God says "Let there be light".
devil goes in total "hate Gods creation" mode because he is realizing this this was his purpose from the start....Lucifer becomes Satan to supervise the sin..all because this little MAN in a garden....
What other angel could be able to pull this off???
satan sees the physical realm being created right in the middle of the reality he chose ( dark void).
The experiment of "choice" and "free will" continues in physical realm to show Satan and his followers/ and "other" that you don't have to be superior being to recognize and love GOD/His son.
Adam was perfect creation. Adam knew of whats to come if he disobey GOD..his choice was to stay with GOD..but he knew the time will come.
Eve was perfect but created last...she had no clue of what..why and when...Eve had no "conversations" with GOD.

Adam loved Eve so much...he decided not to loose her. When Adam saw that Eve holding them "apples" he makes his choice and "follows" Eve.

harmony/peace creates LIFE(holly)
conflict/turmoil creates DEATH (sin)



There so much more to it....sure thing devil hates man....
Out of all things in universe we know and we dont know about...Son of God takes form of weak human.

Keep in mind that heavenly angels still talk to satan with respect.
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" Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offence, contrary to the doctrine which you learned and avoid them,
For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly and by smooth words and flattering speech decieve the hearts of the simple. For your obedience has become known to all. Therefore I am glad on your behalf; but I want you to be wise in what is good, and simple concerning evil. And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. "

Romans 16:17 - 20.
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