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So, therefore it isn't so obvious and their must be some evidence to support it, if it still has believers despite repeated debunking spanning years.

Either the debunking hasn't been effective enough, or it's true.
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The veracity of a claim is not a function of how many people believe it, or if any people believe it at all after a period of time. Debunking, at least for me, is more about educating people so that they don't fall for it in the first place. Those who are diehard believers cannot be convinced, no matter how wrong they are. Hence they post absolute bullshit like the "fact" that sunspots would not be darker than the sun. So all people like myself and Menow have to do is point out how completely wrong that is. You won't accept it, but you are not the standard for whether a debunking is effective or not. Even all the culties of zetatalk put together are not the standard.
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how can you be in denial of a magnetic reversal

wake up shills
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Disease: Zeta-Reticulitardis

Symptoms: A belief in a mysterious planet that appears and dissappears around the sun, apparently completely randomly and known only to Nancy Lieder*.

*Nancy Lieder: Hopelessly confused about basic astronomy topics. She has no experience or training in astronomy or astrophysics, and that the claims she makes run counter to known physics that even elementary school students understand. She is unable to rebut critiques and instead makes retreating claims (e.g. That 'humans do not know everything') or she resorts to invective, ad-hominem attacks, claims of vast conspiracies and plots to discredit her.

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So, therefore it isn't so obvious and their must be some evidence to support it, if it still has believers despite repeated debunking spanning years.

Either the debunking hasn't been effective enough, or it's true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8989938


The veracity of a claim is not a function of how many people believe it, or if any people believe it at all after a period of time. Debunking, at least for me, is more about educating people so that they don't fall for it in the first place. Those who are diehard believers cannot be convinced, no matter how wrong they are. Hence they post absolute bullshit like the "fact" that sunspots would not be darker than the sun. So all people like myself and Menow have to do is point out how completely wrong that is. You won't accept it, but you are not the standard for whether a debunking is effective or not. Even all the culties of zetatalk put together are not the standard.
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But you are not an authority either, you offer all but another opinion - often a narrow one. It was 'experts' like you that had the world believing the Earth was flat not too long ago.

I just keep an open mind.
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If this is the case, then why do you still oppose it so vehemently after all these years?

If it's so obviously hoax, let it go.
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It's clearly not obvious to some people. Hence the repeated debunking when the bunk continually gets repeated over and over and over and over and over and over again...
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So, therefore it isn't so obvious and their must be some evidence to support it, if it still has believers despite repeated debunking spanning years.

Either the debunking hasn't been effective enough, or it's true.
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1)You can't talk people out of believing what they INSIST MUST BE true regardless of all evidence to the contrary, just like any other religious beliefs.

2) There are always new people coming along who see the PX crap for the first time and think there must be something to it due to the sheer volume of material and steadfast insistence upon it's validity from certain corners, primarily Nancy Lieder. If it wasn't for Nancy's pounding out a steady stream of utter nonsense, SEEMING(to the scientifically illiterate) to support the idea it would have died out years ago.
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But what is her agenda?
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So, therefore it isn't so obvious and their must be some evidence to support it, if it still has believers despite repeated debunking spanning years.

Either the debunking hasn't been effective enough, or it's true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8989938


The veracity of a claim is not a function of how many people believe it, or if any people believe it at all after a period of time. Debunking, at least for me, is more about educating people so that they don't fall for it in the first place. Those who are diehard believers cannot be convinced, no matter how wrong they are. Hence they post absolute bullshit like the "fact" that sunspots would not be darker than the sun. So all people like myself and Menow have to do is point out how completely wrong that is. You won't accept it, but you are not the standard for whether a debunking is effective or not. Even all the culties of zetatalk put together are not the standard.
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But you are not an authority either, you offer all but another opinion - often a narrow one.
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Actually I offer facts and evidence.
It was 'experts' like you that had the world believing the Earth was flat not too long ago.
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Wrong. It was experts like Eratosthenes who measured the true shape and circumference of the world long before fear mongering idiots thought they'd sail off the end of the it because they ignored the facts and evidence given by experts like Eratosthenes.

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Moon? Nah
Venus? Looks too big, I always remembered Venus being just a bright star
Nibiru? Perhaps
Looks like it is getting closer, more profound every year
Magnetic reversal soon?
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the world believing the Earth was flat not too long ago.

I just keep an open mind.
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You are citing a myth. I'll save astro the trouble of posting this. For the umteeth time...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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But what is her agenda?
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Nancy? Well, I personally believe it is the agenda of whatever "Zetas" is, whom I believe possess Nancy. I think the agenda is clear- to suck in those who are willing to believe what she/they put out. For what purpose? I'll leave that for you to ponder.
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Menow and Astromut, like birds of a feather flock together whenever Planet X is mentioned.

The biggest suspicion of all.
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the world believing the Earth was flat not too long ago.

I just keep an open mind.
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You are citing a myth. I'll save astro the trouble of posting this. For the umteeth time...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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All hail Wiki. Knower of all human knowledge.


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putin
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Menow and Astromut, like birds of a feather flock together whenever Planet X is mentioned.

The biggest suspicion of all.
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You mean because two different people understand a bit about science and agree with each other, we must be wrong? It's hilarious that you ignore all the facts presented and attempt to cast doubt on the people posting them. Heh.
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the world believing the Earth was flat not too long ago.

I just keep an open mind.
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You are citing a myth. I'll save astro the trouble of posting this. For the umteeth time...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


All hail Wiki. Knower of all human knowledge.


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If you disagree with what is said there, feel free to post alternate info.
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Moon? Nah
Venus? Looks too big, I always remembered Venus being just a bright star
Nibiru? Perhaps
Looks like it is getting closer, more profound every year
Magnetic reversal soon?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420740


So an object like that can hover near the sun and continue to "get closer" for over a decade and still remain 'hidden' from the public via a grande conspiracy by the world's astronomers? Really?
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the world believing the Earth was flat not too long ago.

I just keep an open mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8989938


You are citing a myth. I'll save astro the trouble of posting this. For the umteeth time...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


It's even better than that.
"By the 14th century, belief in a flat earth among the educated was dead."
It was the uneducated idiots who fall for crap like Nancy's bullshit who were precisely the ones that fell for the "flat earth" bullshit back then. Nothing new under the sun. How much you want to bet that the uneducated had just as much distrust for the educated as Nancy's culties distrust you and me?
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Thanks! Wouldn't have noticed that thread if not for you.
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the world believing the Earth was flat not too long ago.

I just keep an open mind.
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You are citing a myth. I'll save astro the trouble of posting this. For the umteeth time...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


It's even better than that.
"By the 14th century, belief in a flat earth among the educated was dead."
It was the uneducated idiots who fall for crap like Nancy's bullshit who were precisely the ones that fell for the "flat earth" bullshit back then. Nothing new under the sun. How much you want to bet that the uneducated had just as much distrust for the educated as Nancy's culties distrust you and me?
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Well said and quite apropos.
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Nancy still got her admin privilegues on GLP?
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That's a good question. Does she?
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What the fuck!!!!!!!!!!!! I wanna sue!!!!!
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A lot of aggression in this thread. Why so defensively voracious, if nothing is at hand?

This thread is pretty convincing:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8989938


Nothing on Nancy's ning is convincing of anything other than that her agenda is to perpetuate a hoax on some ignorant and vulnerable people.
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Is it time to murder your pets and eat them, yet?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8989938


Moon? Nah
Venus? Looks too big, I always remembered Venus being just a bright star
Nibiru? Perhaps
Looks like it is getting closer, more profound every year
Magnetic reversal soon?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420740


So an object like that can hover near the sun and continue to "get closer" for over a decade and still remain 'hidden' from the public via a grande conspiracy by the world's astronomers? Really?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Why not? A surprise on a different orbit
Infrared only
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Moon? Nah
Venus? Looks too big, I always remembered Venus being just a bright star
Nibiru? Perhaps
Looks like it is getting closer, more profound every year
Magnetic reversal soon?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420740


So an object like that can hover near the sun and continue to "get closer" for over a decade and still remain 'hidden' from the public via a grande conspiracy by the world's astronomers? Really?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Why not? A surprise on a different orbit
Infrared only
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Are you serious with this post?
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Menow and Astromut, like birds of a feather flock together whenever Planet X is mentioned.

The biggest suspicion of all.
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That has always been the strongest card in Nancy's hand.. Make outrageous claims- then when people say they are outrageously wrong, claim that this proves the claims are true... rinse repeat...
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I believe with every fiber of my body that Nibiru is real. In fact, I know it is. However, I don't know where it is or if it'll show up soon.

I think Nancy Lieder, either intentionally or innocently has been hand selected and put out there in front of the new-age movement, to help discredit the existence of this body.

Much like I think Richard Hoagland is doing the same about actual and REAL artifacts on the Moon/Mars. He's whole "Elenin-tetrahedron-mothership" diatribe was embarrassing at best.

But still..... the two of them go on and on to the point where their idiotical blatherings make them look crazy and their theories insane.

Now ask yourself: Is this being done by design? Me's thinks so.
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Moon? Nah
Venus? Looks too big, I always remembered Venus being just a bright star
Nibiru? Perhaps
Looks like it is getting closer, more profound every year
Magnetic reversal soon?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420740


So an object like that can hover near the sun and continue to "get closer" for over a decade and still remain 'hidden' from the public via a grande conspiracy by the world's astronomers? Really?
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


Why not? A surprise on a different orbit
Infrared only
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1420740


That makes no sense at all. No object anywhere near the sun(meaning anywhere within the solar system) would be only visible in infrared- unless it somehow magically avoids reflecting sunlight.

Just one more example of how only the scientifically illiterate can believe his crap.
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I believe with every fiber of my body that Nibiru is real. In fact, I know it is. However, I don't know where it is or if it'll show up soon.

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Religious-type beliefs are completely acceptable. However, if you present nonsense evidence that such a body exists it will be pointed out for the nonsense it is.

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