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Major HAZ-MAT, Dover OH, Evacuations "Vapor Cloud"

 
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INGREDIENT  OSHA HAZARDS  LD50 
Triphenyl Phosphite  Physical Hazards : No.  Rat: Acute Oral; LD50; 1.6 g/kg 
FORMULA: C18H15O3
P  Health Hazard: Irritant, Severe, 
CAS: 101­02­0  Skin Irritant, Eye Possible chronic. 
RTECS # TH1575000  effects 
EINECS/ELINCS NUMBER: 202­908­4 
EC CLASSIFICATION: Irritant; Dangerous for the Environme​nt 
EC LABEL: Xi, Irritant; N, Dangerous for the Environment​ 
EC R: R36/38: 
R50/53: Very toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long­term ​adverse effects in the aquaticenvironment 
EC S: S28: After contact with skin, wash immediately with ple​nty of water 
S60: This material and its container must be disposed of as h​azardous waste 
S61: Avoid release to the environment. Refer to special instr​uctions/Safety data sheet 
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What kind of plant?
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what kind of vapor?
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Nasty stuff...

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

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TPP (1000 mg/kg) produced progressive ataxia and paralysis which developed 5-10 days after dosing. The clinical signs were accompanied by axonal damage in the lateral columns of the spinal cord and peripheral nerve. Similar signs were observed following neurotoxic doses of the OPIDN-causing agents tri-o-cresyl phosphate (TOCP) or diisopropyl phosphorofluoridate (DFP). In addition, TPP caused damage to axons in the brain and gray matter of the spinal cord, and chromatolysis and neuronal necrosis were frequently observed in the spinal cord. These latter areas were not affected by TOCP or DFP. The minimum neurotoxic dose of TPP was found to be 500 mg/kg. Prior administration of phenylmethylsulfonyl fluoride (PMSF) reduced the incidence of damage to the peripheral nerve of animals dosed with TPP, but did not prevent toxic effects on the cell bodies in the spinal cord or the clinical effects. The results of this study indicate that TPP causes neuronal damage in addition to the axonal damage observed with OPIDN. Therefore, we conclude that two distinct mechanisms underlie the neurotoxicity of TPP.

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Neurotoxin?
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Nice find>
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MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET 
TRIPHENYL PHOSPHITE ­ TPP 
POTENTIAL HEALTH EFFECTS: 
EYE: Causes irritation. 
SKIN: Causes irritation, severe irritation or rash possible. ​May cause skin defatting. 
INGESTION: Low hazard in normal industrial use. If ingested, ​material can be acutely toxic. Small amounts ingested can 
cause 
gastrointestinal disturbance, diarrhea. 
INHALATION: Low hazard in normal industrial use. Repeated or ​prolonged inhalation of vapor or mist may be harmful 
or cause irritation 
CHRONIC EFFECTS: Not listed as human carcinogen by OSHA, IARC​, or NTP. 
NEUROLOGICAL EFFECTS: Low hazard in normal industrial use. Ab​sorption of this material through skin or ingestion 
may result in neurotoxic effects. Persons with certian types ​of neurological diseases, such as MS, should consult with a 

physician prior to exposure to this material. 
SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS: Eye, skin or respiratory tract irritation​. Gastrointestinal disturbance, diarrhea 
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What kind of plant?
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Our manufacturing facilities are located in Dover, OH and Hammond, IN. Our Dover location is along Interstate 77 in east central Ohio, providing easy access for shipping. The Hammond location is just 17 miles south of Chicago, along the Interstates 80-94 corridor.
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This is the OHIO plant - not the one near Chicago.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Had to look up defatting! YUCK...whatever you do do not google it and then click images!
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this is how we fix the weight problems in the midwest - we defat them.
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Kill them with accidents if the paid terrorists don't come through...

That's an order.

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update from :

[link to www.radioreference.com]


UPDATE 12:18: HAZMAT Entry teams and Stand-by Rescue teams being deployed. 12:04: Vapor supression operations established with ladder pipe(s) to control chemical cloud and vapors. 11:25: Incident continuing to expand, vapor cloud is moving and expanding

Its sounds like there entry crew is about to go in the building now
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What kind of plant?
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Our manufacturing facilities are located in Dover, OH and Hammond, IN. Our Dover location is along Interstate 77 in east central Ohio, providing easy access for shipping. The Hammond location is just 17 miles south of Chicago, along the Interstates 80-94 corridor.
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This is the OHIO plant - not the one near Chicago.
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How far East after this do you think people will have to worry about the effects of the vapor? Probably not too far, right?
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[link to www.woio.com]

9 Action News has learned of a spill at the Dover Chemical Corporation. The chemical - Triphenylphosphite - spilled around 9:20 a.m
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MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
TRIPHENYL PHOSPHITE TPP
POTENTIAL HEALTH EFFECTS:
EYE: Causes irritation.
SKIN: Causes irritation, severe irritation or rash possible. May cause skin defatting.
INGESTION: Low hazard in normal industrial use. If ingested, material can be acutely toxic. Small amounts ingested can
cause
gastrointestinal disturbance, diarrhea.
INHALATION: Low hazard in normal industrial use. Repeated or prolonged inhalation of vapor or mist may be harmful
or cause irritation
CHRONIC EFFECTS: Not listed as human carcinogen by OSHA, IARC, or NTP.
NEUROLOGICAL EFFECTS: Low hazard in normal industrial use. Absorption of this material through skin or ingestion
may result in neurotoxic effects. Persons with certian types of neurological diseases, such as MS, should consult with a
physician prior to exposure to this material.
SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS: Eye, skin or respiratory tract irritation. Gastrointestinal disturbance, diarrhea

[link to www.sandhya-group.com]
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i love how most of it is guesswork.. "prolonged exposure may cause this and this" means we have no idea we dont document long term exposure.

Also, something weird about there being such an emergency over something with a "low hazard" for inhalation.
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How far East after this do you think people will have to worry about the effects of the vapor? Probably not too far, right?
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the effects of such events are worldwide.. but immediate effects will probably be limited.
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Radio Reference talking about calling The Salvation Army to get some food into the staging area.
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What kind of plant?
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what kind of vapor?
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Phosphene gas
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interestingly this chemical is used in hydraulic fracturing.. guess they are just priming the waterways..
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another news flash :

[link to www.newsnet5.com]

HAZMAT is at the scene. Dover fire officials have described the spill as "serious" and said "there is a threat of explosion."
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Growing up in Tuscarawas County Ohio - and not far from Dover Chemical - I can tell you that this is not necessarily unusual. This plant has had numerous issues - including vapor clouds now and then.

I think the danger is more to the immediate area - probably within a 5 mile radius.

Not sure as to what will happen with the vapor cloud.

According the Radio Reference chatter - Arby's has donated sandwiches and so has a local pizza place.

I gotta say - I've never really seen them do this big of a production over a vapor cloud.
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Growing up in Tuscarawas County Ohio - and not far from Dover Chemical - I can tell you that this is not necessarily unusual. This plant has had numerous issues - including vapor clouds now and then.

I think the danger is more to the immediate area - probably within a 5 mile radius.

Not sure as to what will happen with the vapor cloud.

According the Radio Reference chatter - Arby's has donated sandwiches and so has a local pizza place.

I gotta say - I've never really seen them do this big of a production over a vapor cloud.
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Phosphene...a derivative of phosphorus...see? :)

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What kind of plant?
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Our manufacturing facilities are located in Dover, OH and Hammond, IN. Our Dover location is along Interstate 77 in east central Ohio, providing easy access for shipping. The Hammond location is just 17 miles south of Chicago, along the Interstates 80-94 corridor.
 Quoting: CE1


This is the OHIO plant - not the one near Chicago.
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yup..here's the location on Google maps

[link to g.co]

it's also a superfund site

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What kind of plant?
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tomato?
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Growing up in Tuscarawas County Ohio - and not far from Dover Chemical - I can tell you that this is not necessarily unusual. This plant has had numerous issues - including vapor clouds now and then.

I think the danger is more to the immediate area - probably within a 5 mile radius.

Not sure as to what will happen with the vapor cloud.

According the Radio Reference chatter - Arby's has donated sandwiches and so has a local pizza place.

I gotta say - I've never really seen them do this big of a production over a vapor cloud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15784523


But then again IVE never seen them eat pizza and scarf down arbys sammiches if it actually was "SERIOUS" lol
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Now they are saying there is another potential gas involved????
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did he just say potential phosgene????!!!!
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another news flash :

[link to www.newsnet5.com]

HAZMAT is at the scene. Dover fire officials have described the spill as "serious" and said "there is a threat of explosion."
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Phosphene gas is highly explosive. So that is why they are freaking out..
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another news flash :

[link to www.newsnet5.com]

HAZMAT is at the scene. Dover fire officials have described the spill as "serious" and said "there is a threat of explosion."
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Phosphene gas is highly explosive. So that is why they are freaking out..
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The Devil is in the details..
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Growing up in Tuscarawas County Ohio - and not far from Dover Chemical - I can tell you that this is not necessarily unusual. This plant has had numerous issues - including vapor clouds now and then.

I think the danger is more to the immediate area - probably within a 5 mile radius.

Not sure as to what will happen with the vapor cloud.

According the Radio Reference chatter - Arby's has donated sandwiches and so has a local pizza place.

I gotta say - I've never really seen them do this big of a production over a vapor cloud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15784523


But then again IVE never seen them eat pizza and scarf down arbys sammiches if it actually was "SERIOUS" lol
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It is 12:40pm here in Ohio. They NEVER bring in food and drinks unless the staging is going to go on for a LONG time. It works that way for fires as well as other crisis events. I'm betting this is going to be an all afternoon - possibly into the evening - event.
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I think it's interesting that these guys keep mentioning about talking on Channel 2 - which is likely NOT public.
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uhhhhh... phosphene

phosphene is a phenomenon characterized by the experience of seeing light without light actually entering the eye.
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Also Phosphine gas is why they wear the masks on Breaking Bad.

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