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Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16356903  United Kingdom05/21/2012 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. I dont know about this statement but hawking is a fucking idiot. He only became famous because he is in a wheelchair. If he wasnt he would just be another idiotic physics chap. Just because someone knows math does not make them wise, indeed, its the complete opposite. Math makes you tunnel visioned. People get so wrapped up in numbers they always lose thier way. What makes a wise man? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16448947 United Kingdom05/21/2012 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. I dont know about this statement but hawking is a fucking idiot. He only became famous because he is in a wheelchair. If he wasnt he would just be another idiotic physics chap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16356903 Just because someone knows math does not make them wise, indeed, its the complete opposite. Math makes you tunnel visioned. People get so wrapped up in numbers they always lose thier way. What makes a wise man? Someone who observes and experiments with Reality, and draws unbiased conclusions from their empirical explorations. That would rule out the likes of Hawking, Einstein, Feynmann etc. Wanker mathematicians who never performed a physics experiment in their worthless lives.  |
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| dead aquasaur User ID: 1259621 United States05/21/2012 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Would like a source for that quote from Hawking, please. The dude has spent the last 30 years failing to defend his claim that information gets erased in black holes. Surely he knows he is not omnipotent. Has his ego grown that large? Or is his fear of being on the losing side of the information paradox argument leading him to say such things? If true, he sounds just like one of those religious authorities he doesn't respect. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 16151488 Greenland05/21/2012 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. The point I'm making is not that he says what the thread title is. What I'm saying is that somehow, Hawkings beliefs on the afterlife has more validity than your own beliefs, well that does not make any sense to me. I just don't understand why we have to hear about his views on the afterlife, who made him the authority on these matters? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7777013 United States05/21/2012 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. The point I'm making is not that he says what the thread title is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151488 What I'm saying is that somehow, Hawkings beliefs on the afterlife has more validity than your own beliefs, well that does not make any sense to me. I just don't understand why we have to hear about his views on the afterlife, who made him the authority on these matters? Not all opinions are equal. Studying the changes that happen in the body at death in a serious way can lead one to an informed opinion on the afterlife. Studying bronze age Palestinian manuscripts makes you an expert on the beliefs of bronze age Palestinians. See the difference? |
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| Not of this World User ID: 3818533 United States05/21/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Hawking = The Devil in disguise. Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed." John 6:27-58 You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. -James 4:4 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. -Galatians 6:7 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. -Colossians 2:8 Rev 13:9-10 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; (Betraying your family and friends) he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. (Guns!) Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1693957 Germany05/21/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. ok so were hardwired to follow the leader. that doesnt mean we should just listen to him. he doesnt believe in god so his opinion could be slightly clouded by illogicalities. like him being a superior person |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16448947 United Kingdom05/21/2012 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Non-empirical MATHEMATICIANS, like Hawking, have totally fucked-up the physical sciences. We entered a dark cul-de-sac of Unreason around the time of Einstein's ascendancy and takeover of "physics", from which we have yet to emerge. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 16151488 Greenland05/21/2012 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. The point I'm making is not that he says what the thread title is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151488 What I'm saying is that somehow, Hawkings beliefs on the afterlife has more validity than your own beliefs, well that does not make any sense to me. I just don't understand why we have to hear about his views on the afterlife, who made him the authority on these matters? Not all opinions are equal. Studying the changes that happen in the body at death in a serious way can lead one to an informed opinion on the afterlife. Studying bronze age Palestinian manuscripts makes you an expert on the beliefs of bronze age Palestinians. See the difference? Listen to many thinkers, form your own opinions of what makes sense to you. See the freedom? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14924620 United Kingdom05/21/2012 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Ya mean the thing that doesn't exist ? Funny, I've been doing good things for everyone my whole life and never got anything in return other than it thrown back in my face... Stopped doing that and my life already seems to have changed for the better. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8597527 United States05/21/2012 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. The point I'm making is not that he says what the thread title is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151488 What I'm saying is that somehow, Hawkings beliefs on the afterlife has more validity than your own beliefs, well that does not make any sense to me. I just don't understand why we have to hear about his views on the afterlife, who made him the authority on these matters? Because he promotes the Anti-God agenda. Any "scientist" who wants to say that life and the universe is a random accident, or we create reality through our thoughts, or whatever other BS, is always propped up and given a voice by the establishment. That garbage got rammed down our throats all through the 80's and 90's, and is converging with a lot of new-age,pagan, and atheism religions. not to mention the religion of evolution. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15582870 United States05/21/2012 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. I dont know about this statement but hawking is a fucking idiot. He only became famous because he is in a wheelchair. If he wasnt he would just be another idiotic physics chap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16356903 Just because someone knows math does not make them wise, indeed, its the complete opposite. Math makes you tunnel visioned. People get so wrapped up in numbers they always lose thier way. What makes a wise man? Tell that to Leonardo di vinci . One of the greatest minds in history a true across the board genius , and a math buff I may add. Or Isaac Newton who both believed in god and was a math God One should stay away from generalizations such as these is they do not want to sound narrow minded |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7119213 United States05/21/2012 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Whats a bigger fairy tale that life is a random meaningless thing and some big bang happened and all of a sudden everything just landed in the right place at the right time ---- or that a greater intelligence designed everything that we see? Atheists like to make fun of people of faith without realizing that it takes far more faith to believe in what they believe. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15582870 United States05/21/2012 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. The point I'm making is not that he says what the thread title is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151488 What I'm saying is that somehow, Hawkings beliefs on the afterlife has more validity than your own beliefs, well that does not make any sense to me. I just don't understand why we have to hear about his views on the afterlife, who made him the authority on these matters? Because he promotes the Anti-God agenda. Any "scientist" who wants to say that life and the universe is a random accident, or we create reality through our thoughts, or whatever other BS, is always propped up and given a voice by the establishment. That garbage got rammed down our throats all through the 80's and 90's, and is converging with a lot of new-age,pagan, and atheism religions. not to mention the religion of evolution. So let me get this straight he is an idiot for stating what he believes , but you are not ??? He at least is basing his opinions on reason , while I have to believe you on nothing but faith . I do not know whom is correct , but do not try to say you are anything different form you are accosting |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15582870 United States05/21/2012 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Whats a bigger fairy tale that life is a random meaningless thing and some big bang happened and all of a sudden everything just landed in the right place at the right time ---- or that a greater intelligence designed everything that we see? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7119213 Atheists like to make fun of people of faith without realizing that it takes far more faith to believe in what they believe. In an infinite number of universes over an infinite number of time why is this so hard to believe possible . I myself am agnostic and believe there is something behind creation , I just do not pretend to know what it is |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16448947 United Kingdom05/21/2012 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. I dont know about this statement but hawking is a fucking idiot. He only became famous because he is in a wheelchair. If he wasnt he would just be another idiotic physics chap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16356903 Just because someone knows math does not make them wise, indeed, its the complete opposite. Math makes you tunnel visioned. People get so wrapped up in numbers they always lose thier way. What makes a wise man? Tell that to Leonardo di vinci . One of the greatest minds in history a true across the board genius , and a math buff I may add. Or Isaac Newton who both believed in god and was a math God One should stay away from generalizations such as these is they do not want to sound narrow minded  These true SCIENTISTS did the empirical (not "gedanken") experiments, THEN used MATH AS A TOOL, to describe what they found. Math should be the servant and handmaiden of Physics, not its ruler! You is bein' very disingenuous, boy! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 16151488 Greenland05/21/2012 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. The point I'm making is not that he says what the thread title is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151488 What I'm saying is that somehow, Hawkings beliefs on the afterlife has more validity than your own beliefs, well that does not make any sense to me. I just don't understand why we have to hear about his views on the afterlife, who made him the authority on these matters? Because he promotes the Anti-God agenda. Any "scientist" who wants to say that life and the universe is a random accident, or we create reality through our thoughts, or whatever other BS, is always propped up and given a voice by the establishment. That garbage got rammed down our throats all through the 80's and 90's, and is converging with a lot of new-age,pagan, and atheism religions. not to mention the religion of evolution. So let me get this straight he is an idiot for stating what he believes , but you are not ??? He at least is basing his opinions on reason , while I have to believe you on nothing but faith . I do not know whom is correct , but do not try to say you are anything different form you are accosting BULLSHIT. He's not basing his opinions on reason, he's basing his opinions on faith, just as much as anybody with a different faith than his. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6988499  Australia05/21/2012 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Hawking lives in a wheelchair and communicates via his computer. But hey, what proof is there that he is the one operating that computer, I don't like taking what I am told as being absolute truth, without questioning it. I have often thought that this guy could be a complete dribbling idiot, wheeled around and words are put into his "mouth" (the computer) by other (devious) people. And so far, nothing has convinced me otherwise. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8597527 United States05/21/2012 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Stephen Hawking says you cannot think for yourself and therefore should believe what he believes. Whats a bigger fairy tale that life is a random meaningless thing and some big bang happened and all of a sudden everything just landed in the right place at the right time ---- or that a greater intelligence designed everything that we see? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7119213 Atheists like to make fun of people of faith without realizing that it takes far more faith to believe in what they believe. Exactly.. well MOST atheists I've talked to believe in the laughable Evolution scriptures. Now THAT is Faith. |
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