Steven Hawking proves IQ doesn't matter because that dude is a moron...

He acknowledged a higher spiritual power though, which Hawking does not. Hawking thinks you die and that's just it. Einstein said he has humility towards a higher power. Maybe Hawking is just too angry at his condition to believe that his life was fated.

Irony: Calling somebody stupid using the phrase "more stupider".

Stein was also a moron and a puppet of the Jesuits. Never tied his shoes combed his hair or invented anything.

Very true.

I really don't remember most of what was in that book, I found it that dull. Interesting sticks, you know? I do remember him regretting in the introduction, that he had to deal in english language, rather than mathematics.

Theory is fine, when it fits reality. Theory for theory's sake is just ideas.

True. I tend to agree more with Einstein's spiritual beliefs than Hawking's.

It has been quite a few years, but if I remember correctly it had a lot to do with relativity and black holes.

Duh. Like you think I don't understand that? Too funny.

Now if you're so smart, perhaps you can tell me what exactly was interesting about that book. I won't hold my breath.

I lied, "The Universe in a Nutshell" was the one about relativity. The one you read was mostly about black holes and things like that. I likes it and "Black Holes and Baby Universes" better. His last one was kind of a let down to me.

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The theory of relativity is primitive, anthropocentric nonsense. Anything that mathematically grew out of its assumptions is likewise nonsense. So yes, I guess I'm a heretic of sorts. Not sayin' the maths is wrong, just the assumptions that came before the numbers.

hawking is a perfect tool of TPTB. he literally cant say anything. straight up disinfo shill that in reality is a vegetable

I am not one that wishes evils on to to many people in this world... But under eugenics that Hawking pushes so much he should lead by example... under his proposed systems he would have been killed at birth so...

I think he should be killed off to support what he is selling... I would like to see him go like the way they do baby seals in...

Wow, which theory of relativity do you beleive is non-sense? Special or general, or both?

Yeah?

Let's see you type out an entire speech about the universe while drooling on yourself and making tiny movements with your almost non-functional hand.

Bumping for an answer because your statement blew my mind. How is it primitive or anthropocentric, or nonsense for that matter. Aspects of it have been supported by experimentation, and it has just become more supported over the years.

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lol.. i don't really care if you hold your breath or not. better for you if you didn't, it took a while before i read your post..
i was not reffering to any particular book but all of his works are quite interesting, some of his theories or hypoteses i don't fully agree with as they seem far fetched and they are not factually testable or fit the known mathmetical models. but as most scientific ideas begin with a hypothesis, many of those will change at some stage as the theory around them evolves, hence many theories are theories till proven.
but to say you're 'mensa' and then dis hawking and say it's all boring? bit arrogant isn't it?
that's the attitude of some members why i won't join, mr smartypants...

Anyone who presents a fear-based reality is just showing understandable insecurities.

He doesn't want to imagine an afterlife because that would threaten his prolonged voluntary acceptance of his challenged physical state.

He doesn't want to allow for benevolent aliens because that is the role that he has assumed for himself.

Both notions threaten the ongoing viability of his existence.
Additionally, Carl Sagan was tuned in to levels most of us can only imagine. And he smoked Hashish.

rofl @ this thread, someone is mad that he said heaven is a fairy tale eh? sorry but hawking has contributed more to physics than anyone since einstein. ever heard of black holes? yeah hawking THEORIZED that they existed before anyone even knew, before one was found, people said for years he was wrong, then they were discovered. that's right, with mathematics he said these SHOULD exist prior to any evidence. continue to call him an idiot though, i'm sure you're capable of much more right?

Highest IQ recorded was by a bar tender that's not different from any other american, he was actually kinda dumb.

unfortunately for this level of stupidity, relativity is proven day and day over and over again, your computer wouldn't exist without relativity theory as it led to the discover of semi conductors. relativity has millions of publications to prove itself, your argument has 0. saying "nuh uh" doesn't prove anything other than your inability to explain yourself or your argument sorry buddy, you're a moran

Lol, that guy was cool as shit. He spent years bouncing and writing down his great ideas and equations on his notepad while working so that he could perfect them later. He has had quite an interesting life. The wiki article is shit, but here it is.

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You just proved you are ignorant.

Einstein wasn't an atheist. Lots of them aren't.

You just have a myopic worldview.

Sorry guys, I had to go work, but I'm back now.

You're right, it sounds arrogant and it is. You're also right about 'some members' being arrogant. That was why I didn't stay a member for very long.

"Mensans are just like ordinary people, only more so."

Someone smart once said that.

Anyway, all of this is only my opinion and I'm nobody so it doesn't matter. It has to do with the fundamental assumptions that lead to any theory being formed in the first place. It starts with thoughts based upon our perceptions, which is also hinged off our beliefs.

It begins with our perception of time, space and reality in general. Just because we must think linearly, doesn't mean the universe is linear. Just because we think time is a 'single arrow', doesn't mean it's actually so. Thinking it's a 'single arrow' begs for beginnings and endings from our linear minds. We do the maths and presto... there was a 'big bang' at the beginning.

Yet all that can really be proved to be real, actual... is the present, which is always in flux. If time was sequential, like our conscious minds, there would be beginnings and endings and paradox would not exist.

If you think sequential/rational thought is the measure of everything, what came first, the chicken or the egg? The thing about paradox is, that it shows how irrational rational thought can be.

I don't think time is a single arrow. That throws the whole thing off. Like I said, it's just my opinion.

wow

U know Hawking is a joke simply because he labelled all UFO believers as 'nutjobs and looneys'.

alarm bells went off when i saw he said that....could it be any more obvious? He is being paid off somewhere to state that view because i can refuse to believe how someone as smart as him can disregard thousands of sighting, thousands of anecdotes, alien abduction anecdotes, pitctures, video, admissions from government/military personal and admissions from astronaughts as all nonsense.

Even Michiu Kaku gives credit to the UFO scene but then again there is suspicion he is also a NWO shill with his "if you oppose globalization you are probably a terrorist" garbage. Disinfo at its finest. Divide and Conqour.

Of course he's being paid off! His views differ from yours so obviously it's all part of a fucking conspiracy!

The ONLY thing we have to go on with all these UFO sightings and supposed abductions are anecdotal evidence, aka "hearsay bullshit." If you have any actual proof though, please provide some links in your next post.

WRONG!






On GLP it's moran.

Get it together!

Hate to nitpick, but Hawkings was not the first person to " theorize black holes ", whatever that's supposed to mean.

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