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Collectivism or Individualism?

 
Anonymous Coward
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05/21/2012 09:50 PM
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Collectivism or Individualism?
Your answer will demonstrate your level of knowledge of freedom and tyranny.
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Thread: 2D spoke to me this morning
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05/21/2012 10:38 PM
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the liberation of the individual entails the liberation of the collective. What would it look like without hierarchy?
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Individualism
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05/21/2012 10:42 PM
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Why not both?
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both at the right times
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Individual.- Individual duality;Mans dual nature of matter and spirit.

You have been given a false choice by Luciferians. The answer to your question is both.
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bump

Not datamining for the NWO ;)
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the liberation of the individual entails the liberation of the collective. What would it look like without hierarchy?
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Individualism
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You will be dealt with in the near future, await instructions.
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There's no reason to be scared.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151488


Individual.- Individual duality;Mans dual nature of matter and spirit.

You have been given a false choice by Luciferians. The answer to your question is both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 690272


I don't know what a "Luciferian" is, but there's no reason a society can't operate comfortably using both individualist and collectivist philosophy.

Live in that grey area, so to speak.
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the liberation of the individual entails the liberation of the collective. What would it look like without hierarchy?
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This to the max. It took me awhile to see this, but nothing could be closer to truth.
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Whatever happens to be in your own personal interest at any given moment in time for a particular situation.

The right to decide which one and when should be left entirely up to the individual, so in that sense Individualism.
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05/21/2012 11:43 PM
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Both, Be strong as a individual, isnt that just part of the responsibility of belongin to a collective......wouldnt one preferr to be the strongest link, than the weakest?

We are all part of the collective, what role do you choose to play?

If we judge ourself to be lacking or weak in areas, is this not a good thing, as weakness can be turned into strenghts.

Part of knowing ourselfs......
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Collectivism or Individualism?

Your answer will demonstrate your level of knowledge of freedom and tyranny.
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norespect
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05/21/2012 11:46 PM

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Individual authority and voluntary association.

Collectivism feeds off the individual and is inherently self-destructive. It is a parasitical ideology.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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Individual authority and voluntary association.

Collectivism feeds off the individual and is inherently self-destructive. It is a parasitical ideology.
 Quoting: Shingen


There is no "collective", there are only individuals.

When collectivists gain the upper hand it always means misery and poverty for the masses with a tiny elite running a totalitarian state.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 05/21/2012 11:53 PM
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let me answer:
a society without any written philosophy is sort of combined individualist collectivist.It is not actually capitalist or socialist.
just take villages before 3000 years.Everybody had got job to do:farmer-produce crops,ironworker:work tools,carpenter: wooden work etc etc
they worked in individual capacity but their work was for immediate society,not for some govt officer sitting in his airconditioned cabin.
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Individual authority and voluntary association.

Collectivism feeds off the individual and is inherently self-destructive. It is a parasitical ideology.
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There is no "collective", there are only individuals.

When collectivists gain the upper hand it always means misery and poverty for the masses with a tiny elite running a totalitarian state.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


you mean like it is in America? lmao
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Rothbard teaches us that a planned economy isn't just bad, it's impossible in the sense that it can not exist in the real world. Any system claiming to be collectivistic is simply an individualistic system dominated by a few actors who have a political interest in obscuring that fact.
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you mean like it is in America?
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It ain't just America, mate.

Last Edited by Shingen on 05/22/2012 12:35 AM
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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Rothbard teaches us that a planned economy isn't just bad, it's impossible in the sense that it can not exist in the real world. Any system claiming to be collectivistic is simply an individualistic system dominated by a few actors who have a political interest in obscuring that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7777013


ya its strange that, you dont see birds and other animals with a money economy system, just humans.......

yet the bird and animals survive........could humans?

I think if the system was based on natural law/universal law.......it could work........no better system than one designed for our own nature.........
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both systems are due to fail in case of irresponsibility
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Collective Individualism.

Wait... what?
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both systems are due to fail in case of irresponsibility
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i think you hit the nail on the head, its not the system that failed, it the way man has used it.

The responsibility starts with the individual, if you had a collective of people doing this..........

projecting much thou, who said man will fail?

I still have faith..........
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sorry misread, your talking about the system......not man.

system fail could be good, people start looking for alternatives.......
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Rothbard teaches us that a planned economy isn't just bad, it's impossible in the sense that it can not exist in the real world. Any system claiming to be collectivistic is simply an individualistic system dominated by a few actors who have a political interest in obscuring that fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7777013


Rothbard is full of shit. Every company in the world plans what it's going to do at least a year in advance and sometimes as much as 5. It takes 3 years for GM to take a new car model from the drawing board to the showroom. You can't tell me they do that with no planning.

Commies just take the planning to a much grander level. They fall down because they tend to be a bunch of peasants and know-nothing acedemics who have no idea how to plan a birthday party let alone an economy. Hitler did it right. He left all the planning to Krupp, Thyssen and Bosch. His planned economy was the biggest economic success story of all time.
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05/22/2012 12:52 AM
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Sure, idiots, go ahead build an INTERNET or interstate highway system on your own.

You couldn't even entertain such asinine ideas without support from millions of invisible hands.

This is how the modern cave man thinks.
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Sure, idiots, go ahead build an INTERNET or interstate highway system on your own.

You couldn't even entertain such asinine ideas without support from millions of invisible hands.

This is how the modern cave man thinks.
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Another collectivist chimes in with insults no less.
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This is like asking "what is utopia?"

Important question, but ultimately there is no right answer.
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Individual authority and voluntary association.

Collectivism feeds off the individual and is inherently self-destructive. It is a parasitical ideology.
 Quoting: Shingen


There is no "collective", there are only individuals.

When collectivists gain the upper hand it always means misery and poverty for the masses with a tiny elite running a totalitarian state.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


you mean like it is in America? lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16465949


Of course like in America and if not now not much longer in Australia.

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