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Sheriff Joe Sends Detectives to Honolulu

 
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Wrong; again:

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Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case.

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

[link to law2.umkc.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676

Allow me to emphasize a bit that seems to have escaped notice. It says that the parents must also be citizens of that country. Obama's father never was a citizen of the United States. End of discussion. What's so hard about that?
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Allen (Allen v. Arizona Democratic Party) tried to use Minor vs. Happersett case against Obama, but failed. Judge Richard E. Gordon dismissed the action:

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"Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana (addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does not hold otherwise."

That settles it. Next.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769


You people are idiots really. If Obama was born in Hawaii it doesnt matter if his parents are from Mars, he is eligible. Also his mother was a citizen which is much more important. Did you know? that if you go to your state capital and request a copy of your certificate, that if you dont have ID, your mother can vouch for you as ID and they will give you a copy?
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Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case.

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

[link to law2.umkc.edu]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676

Allow me to emphasize a bit that seems to have escaped notice. It says that the parents must also be citizens of that country. Obama's father never was a citizen of the United States. End of discussion. What's so hard about that?
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Allen (Allen v. Arizona Democratic Party) tried to use Minor vs. Happersett case against Obama, but failed. Judge Richard E. Gordon dismissed the action:

[link to www.scribd.com]

"Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana (addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does not hold otherwise."

That settles it. Next.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

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You people are idiots really. If Obama was born in Hawaii it doesnt matter if his parents are from Mars, he is eligible. Also his mother was a citizen which is much more important. Did you know? that if you go to your state capital and request a copy of your certificate, that if you dont have ID, your mother can vouch for you as ID and they will give you a copy?
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes


Yes, if he was born in Hawaii then he would be a Native born citizen.

If he was born in Kenya, with the laws at the time, he would have been born a British citizen. His mother could have Naturalized him when she brought him to the US. But if she did not,then he would be an illegal alien.

I say we deport him if he can't prove that he was born in the US.

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I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14803862


IF this were true then a woman could go to Iraq , have a baby with Saddam (unbeknownst to us), and ultimately and legally that child could become POTUS.

This is what the law is intended to prevent, and why it needs to continue to be upheld...
 Quoting: TS66

This is irrelevant; according to the US jurisprudence the place of birth makes one a "Citizen at Birth" AKA "Natural Born Citizen".

Nevertheless... "a woman can go to Oklahoma and have a baby with Timothy McVeigh (unbeknownst to us)" as well. What gives that?

Besides, did the British citizenship of the Funding Fathers' parents define their loyalty?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769


God damn your wrong...

Why dont you liberal obama fucks actually research the constitution vs make shit up..

5 types of citizen status spelled out in the constitution

"citizen" of the united states - born to at least 1 parent of us citizenship
(obama qualifies..for citizenship)

"citizen of the US at time of the adoption of the constitution"
Aka the grandfather clause, aka origional citizen
- long expired.. Meant u were here before the constitution, but not born here

"born citizen"
- you were born in the usa

"naturalized citizen"
- you went through the process of becoming a citizen, not born in usa

And finally

"natural born citizen"

Born of two parents of us citizenship of any type

The only requirement for us president

Obama doesnt fit this catagory
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I wonder when Sheriff Joe will send the posse to find the 80 to 100 million dollars he stole from the taxpayers of Arizona.

I hope you guys understand this Sheriff Joe fucker is no folk hero. He's as crooked a corrupt pig politician as has ever been. But he is at least an American as far as I know. I'll give him that.
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Nancy, is that you?
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I cant believe there are still idiots out there that dont get it. You have to be a NATURAL BORN citizen. BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL! Being born in kenya makes you NOT a natural born citizen. Geeeeez!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550737


^this... Its both humbling and angering. Either people are so ADD or so easily brainwashed.

No offense to the first ac. But seriously dude, research is your friend.

Why would a seasoned sheriff with thousands of (professional) volunteers be investigating this? Why are the media outlets burying the issue faster than it comes up? Why did obozo spend millions to seal all his records?

Can't you smell the bullshit before you have to see it?

This bc issue smells to high heaven...educate yourself. And do the right thing, educate others.

And in the meantime...GO JOE!!!

cheer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


I agree. It is so irritating to me too. I once read a post where someone said, "It doesn't matter if he is natural born citizen, he's lived here since He was 10."

What some of these morons fail to realize is that this was put in the Constitution to protect them.

I think so many young people have no concept of how easily their way of life can just disappear.

They grow up thinking that Hitler would make a great president as long as he lived here for the last 15 years and acted like an American.

Obama has been a major wake-up call.


And I had no idea Hawaii is trying to get out of verifying the BC. Those people are total fools over there. No freaking way would I take the chance on going to prison for trash like Obama.

I hope Fuddy, Nagamine and the others in Hawaii realize they will be the ones who take the fall for all this.
Obama will walk.
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Birthers - not that bright.
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Forgers, criminally stupid.
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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


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ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
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I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14803862


IF this were true then a woman could go to Iraq , have a baby with Saddam (unbeknownst to us), and ultimately and legally that child could become POTUS.

This is what the law is intended to prevent, and why it needs to continue to be upheld...
 Quoting: TS66

This is irrelevant; according to the US jurisprudence the place of birth makes one a "Citizen at Birth" AKA "Natural Born Citizen".

Nevertheless... "a woman can go to Oklahoma and have a baby with Timothy McVeigh (unbeknownst to us)" as well. What gives that?

Besides, did the British citizenship of the Funding Fathers' parents define their loyalty?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

God damn your wrong...

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5 types of citizen status spelled out in the constitution

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"natural born citizen"

Born of two parents of us citizenship of any type
 Quoting: DIGITAL

Cite article, section and paragraph of the US Constitution that spells out "...born of two parents of us citizenship of any type"... or STFU, please.

Don't even try to backpedal by quoting opinion of the till-recently-largely-unknown Swiss philosopher (De Wattel, a royalist advocating gun ban, BTW).

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Like I said earlier sport.

Your a Moran.

And its wunderground.com, the # 1 Weather site on da Web.

Semper Fi.

Got DD-214?

No, you dont.
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I am worried for Sheriff Joe's safety. I support him but I worry for him...
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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
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I wonder when Sheriff Joe will send the posse to find the 80 to 100 million dollars he stole from the taxpayers of Arizona.

I hope you guys understand this Sheriff Joe fucker is no folk hero. He's as crooked a corrupt pig politician as has ever been. But he is at least an American as far as I know. I'll give him that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8851826


Let's just say he did steal money. Ok? Does that make Obama a citizen then? It's about sides. Taking sides and planning for what's coming. I lived in his county my whole life, until about 6 months ago. It's still my home. I never really cared for Joe. However, when you step back and look at it, when TSHTF, I'm with Joe. Hopefully that 100 mill will help fund our side. So let's say he did "put 100mil a side" for a rainy day. Good, smart move. Better to do that and be ready then to wait till the Feds come in and take it.
Don't judge the guy until its over, or until it starts really.
There's no doubt in my mind, Joe loves this country. And I believe he knows what's coming, and he's getting prepared. One thing he can't be accused of, is bending over for the traitors in Washington..
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I am worried for Sheriff Joe's safety. I support him but I worry for him...
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Did anything happen to Oily Taitz?
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[link to www.youtube.com]

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I wonder when Sheriff Joe will send the posse to find the 80 to 100 million dollars he stole from the taxpayers of Arizona.

I hope you guys understand this Sheriff Joe fucker is no folk hero. He's as crooked a corrupt pig politician as has ever been. But he is at least an American as far as I know. I'll give him that.
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Worry about your own shithole Country!
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Smoking out an illegal Kenyan...WoW!
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I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14803862


IF this were true then a woman could go to Iraq , have a baby with Saddam (unbeknownst to us), and ultimately and legally that child could become POTUS.

This is what the law is intended to prevent, and why it needs to continue to be upheld...
 Quoting: TS66

This is irrelevant; according to the US jurisprudence the place of birth makes one a "Citizen at Birth" AKA "Natural Born Citizen".

Nevertheless... "a woman can go to Oklahoma and have a baby with Timothy McVeigh (unbeknownst to us)" as well. What gives that?

Besides, did the British citizenship of the Funding Fathers' parents define their loyalty?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769


God damn your wrong...

Why dont you liberal obama fucks actually research the constitution vs make shit up..

5 types of citizen status spelled out in the constitution

"citizen" of the united states - born to at least 1 parent of us citizenship
(obama qualifies..for citizenship)

"citizen of the US at time of the adoption of the constitution"
Aka the grandfather clause, aka origional citizen
- long expired.. Meant u were here before the constitution, but not born here

"born citizen"
- you were born in the usa

"naturalized citizen"
- you went through the process of becoming a citizen, not born in usa

And finally

"natural born citizen"

Born of two parents of us citizenship of any type

The only requirement for us president

Obama doesnt fit this catagory
 Quoting: DIGITAL


No you are wrong and apparently it is you who should re-read the constitution. Natural born citizen, is the only requirement. Meaning born in the US. Doesnt matter who his parents were. Like I said they could be from Mars, as long as he was born in Hawaii he is eligible. But you guys keep up that fight, push more sensible independents to Obama's side. ABR baby, anybody but Romney.
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Smoking out an illegal Kenyan...WoW!
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Keep on wet-dreaming, birfoon.
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How much money disappeared before 9/11? Why doesn't anyone investigate that?

Oh yeah-

Idol1
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How much of your brain disappeared before 17?

bonghit
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Typical dumbass halfwitted jarhead. who has no clue it's the financial world that steers the ship. But you will obsess on matters about clowns and puppets like a 5 year old at the circus.

Dumb fuck!

cruise
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Funny.......That's what your Mother said about you dick
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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
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Not in the case of being allowed on a presidential ballot.
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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769
Not in the case of being allowed on a presidential ballot.
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How much money, right now, are you willing to wager, that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNTIED STATES, is on the ballot in Arizona? Any amount, Ill take that bet.
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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

What's getting old, is listening to blind people who can't see, that he has never legitimately, meaning non-forgeries, proven he's a US citizen.
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How much money disappeared before 9/11? Why doesn't anyone investigate that?

Oh yeah-

Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4528419


How much of your brain disappeared before 17?

bonghit
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead


Typical dumbass halfwitted jarhead. who has no clue it's the financial world that steers the ship. But you will obsess on matters about clowns and puppets like a 5 year old at the circus.

Dumb fuck!

cruise
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SOCIALIST.........how dare you speak to a United States Marine in that manner? Seriously. You have no clue.
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yessir..................THANK YOU !
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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

What's getting old, is listening to blind people who can't see, that he has never legitimately, meaning non-forgeries, proven he's a US citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350


No whats getting old is the blatant disrespect for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
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I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean.
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I cant believe there are still idiots out there that dont get it. You have to be a NATURAL BORN citizen. BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL! Being born in kenya makes you NOT a natural born citizen. Geeeeez!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1550737


Actually this is not exactly true. The constitutional clause is very "nonspecific" in what defines "natural born "
One is natural born even if born abroad as long as both parents are natural born citizens , Also if you are born on american soil period you are natural born even if both parents are aliens .

" the Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth", including any child born "in" the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.[1]
The natural-born-citizen clause has been mentioned in passing in several decisions of the United States Supreme Court and lower courts dealing with the question of eligibility for citizenship by birth, but the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the question of a specific presidential or vice-presidential candidate's eligibility as a natural-born citizen."

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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

What's getting old, is listening to blind people who can't see, that he has never legitimately, meaning non-forgeries, proven he's a US citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350


you not gonna respond to me AC? how big a wager that the president is on the ballot in Arizona?
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ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

What's getting old, is listening to blind people who can't see, that he has never legitimately, meaning non-forgeries, proven he's a US citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350


No whats getting old is the blatant disrespect for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes
Prove he's a legitimate US citizen.
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Ewwww...Joe he so scary. Lol at you retard birthtards.
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Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

What's getting old, is listening to blind people who can't see, that he has never legitimately, meaning non-forgeries, proven he's a US citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350


No whats getting old is the blatant disrespect for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes
Prove he's a legitimate US citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350


Dont have to, I can prove that he is the POTUS, and has been for 4 years now. The fact that you morans are still pushing this shows your stupidity. Its Ok though dont cry too hard when he beats Romney and you have to look at the POTUS for 4 more years.
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Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous).


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

Not in the case of being allowed on a presidential ballot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Let's bet for $1,000: I say he will be allowed on the presidential ballot in every state. What say you?

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ya, see, that has yet to be proven or verified, in case you missed that simple fact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Gosh, this is really getting old; again, have you ever heard about the following basic legal principles:

- The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty.
- The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges

Birthers tried to prove their claims on court innumerous times and failed each and every time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769

Not in the case of being allowed on a presidential ballot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988350

Let's bet for $1,000: I say he will be allowed on the presidential ballot in every state. What say you?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769


Felons can't run for POTUS.

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