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Sheriff Joe needs to stop wasting his tax payers money, the Supreme Court made their decision in a private meeting the first week Obama took office. They can bring this issue up in as many courts as they want, the Supreme Court has the final say.
 Quoting: Brunhilda


Joe isn't "wasting the tax payers money" his "cold case possey" is VOLUNTEER - they don't get paid for doing this investigation, but the fact that they ARE "official" law enforcement officers makes it a legitimate investigation ... whether they are doing it for free or not.


The Supreme Court is bought and paid for... they have denied to hear the case - based upon technicalities surrounding the way it has been presented to them ... every other "court" official, has been threatened to "comply" with their demands to drop the case

if you had been following the events surrounding this issue, of Obama's citizenship, you would understand why only Sherrif Joe has not been intimidated by the Presidents guard dogs ... that DO cost the American tax payers MILLIONS to cover up

wake up ... why won't he show us his birth certificate ? Obviously he is hiding something ... anyone else would have proudly produced theirs when the question first came up ... he doesn't have a BC ... he fabricated one for the sheeple so they could go back to sleep ... they would rather believe a lie, than deal with the facts

our country is being run by an illegal alien
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Sheriff Joe needs to stop wasting his tax payers money, the Supreme Court made their decision in a private meeting the first week Obama took office. They can bring this issue up in as many courts as they want, the Supreme Court has the final say.
 Quoting: Brunhilda


It's up to Joe's tax payers to protest.
 Quoting: pool


His Cold Case Posse, the team running this investigation, is donating their time for free.
 Quoting: A Friend


[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators...."
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Here is the entire paragraph...

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators, but he hopes the agency will be paid back through private donations. Before now, Arpaio has said the investigation was funded entirely through donations, which are being encouraged by the conspiracy website WorldNetDaily."
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It's up to Joe's tax payers to protest.
 Quoting: pool


His Cold Case Posse, the team running this investigation, is donating their time for free.
 Quoting: A Friend


[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators...."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502041


Here is the entire paragraph...

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators, but he hopes the agency will be paid back through private donations. Before now, Arpaio has said the investigation was funded entirely through donations, which are being encouraged by the conspiracy website WorldNetDaily."
 Quoting: A Friend


And so... TAXES ARE BEING USED.....

Now birther lie 1000000000 has been squashed... time for the next...
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It's up to Joe's tax payers to protest.
 Quoting: pool


His Cold Case Posse, the team running this investigation, is donating their time for free.
 Quoting: A Friend


[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators...."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502041


Here is the entire paragraph...

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators, but he hopes the agency will be paid back through private donations. Before now, Arpaio has said the investigation was funded entirely through donations, which are being encouraged by the conspiracy website WorldNetDaily."
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Justice cost money
Don't ask Holder for any help huh?...thast's not justice huh?
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Arpaio told WND Friday that the Hawaii Department of Health’s refusal to confirm to Bennett that it has a valid Obama birth certificate on file makes it look like Hawaii officials “are hiding something.”

Bennett has said that he might keep Obama’s name off of the state’s presidential ballot if he doesn’t receive the confirmation.

Eight weeks ago, the secretary of state asked Hawaii officials merely for an email confirming the Department of Health has a certified copy of the birth certificate, but Hawaii officials have not complied.

Zullo told WND Friday that Hawaii’s refusal to comply “is just another outright, glaring display of stonewalling that the Sheriff’s Office has encountered since Day One conducting this investigation.”

Zullo said “common sense at this point should be everyone’s guide.”

“If this was a non-issue, it wouldn’t be going on eight weeks waiting for the state of Hawaii to verify anything,” he said.

Over the weekend, KTVK-TV in Phoenix reported the Hawaii attorney general’s office has told Bennett he needs to take certain steps to confirm Obama’s birth records.

The steps include Bennett proving that he “legitimately needs confirmation to update records at his office.”

Zullo told WND that Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office investigators have spoken at length with Bennett regarding the president’s birth record. Zullo said his team spoke with Bennett as recently as last week.

“We are in the beginning stages of enlightening him to critical information that the sheriff has acquired during this investigation,” Zullo said.

‘It looks like they’re hiding something’

Arpaio’s team also is investigating the president’s Selective Service registration form, which his team also found probable cause to be a forgery.

He told WND he’s not getting much cooperation with federal and state governments.

“But that doesn’t matter; we’re still going to continue our investigation and see if those documents are forged,” he said.

Does anyone really know where Obama is from? Find out the startling truth from New York Times best-selling author Jerome Corsi.

Regarding the Hawaii Department of Health, Arpaio noted he’s said since the beginning of the investigation last fall, “Show me the microfilm.”

“They won’t do that, so it looks like they’re hiding something,” he said.

Arpaio said he will continue his investigation regardless of whether or not Obama gets on the ballot.
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His Cold Case Posse, the team running this investigation, is donating their time for free.
 Quoting: A Friend


[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators...."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502041


Here is the entire paragraph...

"He said taxpayers were footing the tab for the airfare and hotel for the investigators, but he hopes the agency will be paid back through private donations. Before now, Arpaio has said the investigation was funded entirely through donations, which are being encouraged by the conspiracy website WorldNetDaily."
 Quoting: A Friend


And so... TAXES ARE BEING USED.....

Now birther lie 1000000000 has been squashed... time for the next...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502041


Deathers lies: 2000000000 **

**Plus a few from O'Bamanochio
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Now birther lie 1000000000 has been squashed... time for the next...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502041



the 10000000000 LIEs have all come from OBAMA ... if he is an American citizen, why doesn't he prove it ... as required by the DNC for all their candiates

For fucks sake, I need an official BC to get a drivers license ... how can you be so DENSE

ok, it is because that is what you choose to be ... IGNORE-ant
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Now birther lie 1000000000 has been squashed... time for the next...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16502041



the 10000000000 LIEs have all come from OBAMA ... if he is an American citizen, why doesn't he prove it ... as required by the DNC for all their candiates

For fucks sake, I need an official BC to get a drivers license ... how can you be so DENSE

ok, it is because that is what you choose to be ... IGNORE-ant
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He has proven it, according to the law of the land. How can you be so dense?
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I don't understand why people aren't demanding the proof are they that needy for the first black president or are they just plain scared to confront this issue?
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Oblome and Congress are guilty of High Treason and should be in Federal Prison!shitstreamogrrr
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My take if your an Obama supporter:

Obama et al at first laughing at nutjobs. He goes on TV and we laugh along with early morning shows about him not being an american citizen.

then months later just decides "OK, let's break out the certificate"

every supporter is now 100% sure he is a citizen, or more likely never gave 2 shits about it anyways.

My take if you enjoy scientific method:

Obama et al giving lip service and a huge F.U. to everyone who believes our country is a soveriegn nation.

Et al has difficulty photoshopping a document made many, many years ago. Instead, they find a close matchup of length of characters in their according spots.

Hawai'is refusal to send out proof despite multiple inquiries is now a smoking gun. I am convinced, without a doubt, that this person was not born on the evidence he produced for the public.

(Notice I am not saying he was born in kenya, chicago, new york, england, france, I am saying that the evidence will show that the evidence that they provided to shut up the 'truthers' will be found fraudulent.)\

This person is running for the highest seat of the executive branch, and 1 of the 50 states is asking for a simple document. It's like asking for a transcript from your Community College. Except this is a transcript of your birth, for a person who graduated from an Ivy League college.

PROOF is all that is asked. Yet it has been denied. MOSSAD yawns and waits.
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Do you REALLY think if there wasn't any merit to any of these suspicions that half the country would be curious as to the answer?

I mean, this is NOT rumor. Or a plan to de-throne Obama.
This is another 9-11 where people aren't buying what's being sold.
It's really as simple as that.

I don't think this 'rumor' would've gotten THIS much attention from people from all walks of life it there wasn't a modicum of truth behind this.

And I tell ya what...IF Romney's Mexican background comes into question, people will be on that like fly on shit too.


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our government already knows, they knew he wasnt born in Hawaii way before he ran for president, they are all corrupt
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our government already knows, they knew he wasnt born in Hawaii way before he ran for president, they are all corrupt
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I believe this to be true too. It's a plan to put the first black man into office then question his integrity.
It's at minimum, a psy-op.
But there might be more to that too. Like, a race riot before they introduce an alien invasion.

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our government already knows, they knew he wasnt born in Hawaii way before he ran for president, they are all corrupt
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I believe this to be true too. It's a plan to put the first black man into office then question his integrity.
It's at minimum, a psy-op.
But there might be more to that too. Like, a race riot before they introduce an alien invasion.
 Quoting: One Moment


I believe you two are just big slime molds. Prove me wrong. Show me your bcs otherwise, you must be slime molds.
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...Former Bergen County, N.J., detective Mike Zullo and his volunteer team were commissioned by Arpaio last September to investigate Obama’s eligibility after citizens raised concerns about the authenticity of the birth record the White House posted on its website. Zullo’s team announced March 1 that it found probable cause that the document is a forgery...
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead

3 months have passed since the announcement; Why didn't the Zullo's team present the alleged evidence thus far?

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They did present the evidence! Sheriff Joe called a press conference. All the media outlets were there but they wouldnt air it on tv. Why not?

Because they dont want the slaves to wake up to the truth. Slaves like you who have no clue whats going on because you get all your info from tv.
sheep
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It is a complete LIE to say HI isn't complying. HI has, and Joe would know this if he bothered to use google, repeated stated Obama was born in HI.

Joe has NO RIGHT to demand that he have the same question answered dozens of times, esp when he's shown to not listen to officials from the state of Hawaii, no matter what, or how many times, they say it.

No one in HI has any legal obligation to do anything Joe says.

There's no issue of compliance.

And the State of HI has already vouched for this, repeatedly.

WND is a right-wing propaganda mouthpiece... you might as well be quoting Goebbels.
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I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean.
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no, but that is what "they" would like you to believe ... but when only one of your parents is an American - the child is considered to have DUAL citizenship in both nations ...

The US constitution requires that the individual running for president must be a "natural born" citizen ... which means that BOTH of his parents are American (whether they are born here or not - as long as they are "Americans" at the time the child is born ... where the baby is born is not really all that important ... who his parents are - the ones that will raise him, to love America - doesn't matter

Barrack whom-ever, was born a dual citizen and is inelgible to run for the office of POTUS ... it doesn't matter if the entire population votes for him or not ... he isn't elgible to run, because he IS not a "natural born citizen ... he knows that, he is a "constitutional lawyer" and sat on the hearing to Vet McCain, as well as sponsored two bills to change the Constitution's requirements ... which failed to pass

America is still a Republic - and we are bound by the Constitution ... Obama was adopted by his step father, and became a citizen of Indonesia at the age of two ... Indonesia does not recognize "dual citizenship" ... and he relinquished his claim to be either American or Kenyan when he became Indonesian ... he has NEVER reinstated his "half" American status ... and therefore is NOT an American at all

so you see it doesn't matter WHERE you are born ... the only thing that determines your status as an American is who your parents are ... at the time of your birth

Mitt Romeny is also NOT a "natural born" citizen ... his dad was a Mexican citizen at the time of his birth - probably his mother was too, even though they were both born in America ... the gave up their citizenship because pologamy is illeagle in America and his dad had several wives ... so they moved to Mexico . The fact that they moved back to America - doesn't change the fact that Mitt was born to two Mexican citizens IN Mexico ... even if they crossed the border to have him born in the US ...

the reason for demanding that Presidents be "natural born" is to avoid the possibility of "a conflict of interests" as we see with Obama, favoring nations that share his "religion" ... when it came to giving Muslims money, he had no problem giving them billions ... but he didn't give billions to the Americans ... did he?
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Perhaps the single most concise review of this issue I have read.
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...Former Bergen County, N.J., detective Mike Zullo and his volunteer team were commissioned by Arpaio last September to investigate Obama’s eligibility after citizens raised concerns about the authenticity of the birth record the White House posted on its website. Zullo’s team announced March 1 that it found probable cause that the document is a forgery...
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead

3 months have passed since the announcement; Why didn't the Zullo's team present the alleged evidence thus far?

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They did present the evidence! Sheriff Joe called a press conference. All the media outlets were there but they wouldnt air it on tv. Why not?

Because they dont want the slaves to wake up to the truth. Slaves like you who have no clue whats going on because you get all your info from tv.
sheep
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No, because the info he presented was already out there, and debunked, months earlier. Joe's "report" was actually just a reformatted version of one of his "investigators" reports... which she'd published months earlier, and which had very publicly been debunked.

The media ignored it because there was nothing to see, and because they know Joe is just pushing political propaganda, and because they've done enough research themselves to know Joe is full of shit...
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My take if your an Obama supporter:

Obama et al at first laughing at nutjobs. He goes on TV and we laugh along with early morning shows about him not being an american citizen.

then months later just decides "OK, let's break out the certificate"

every supporter is now 100% sure he is a citizen, or more likely never gave 2 shits about it anyways.

My take if you enjoy scientific method:

Obama et al giving lip service and a huge F.U. to everyone who believes our country is a soveriegn nation.

Et al has difficulty photoshopping a document made many, many years ago. Instead, they find a close matchup of length of characters in their according spots.

Hawai'is refusal to send out proof despite multiple inquiries is now a smoking gun. I am convinced, without a doubt, that this person was not born on the evidence he produced for the public.

(Notice I am not saying he was born in kenya, chicago, new york, england, france, I am saying that the evidence will show that the evidence that they provided to shut up the 'truthers' will be found fraudulent.)\

This person is running for the highest seat of the executive branch, and 1 of the 50 states is asking for a simple document. It's like asking for a transcript from your Community College. Except this is a transcript of your birth, for a person who graduated from an Ivy League college.

PROOF is all that is asked. Yet it has been denied. MOSSAD yawns and waits.
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If this blows up before the election it will take Romney with it.

How are Ron Paul's birth credentials??
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Right...

Yet these same people think its ok for obozo to waste taxpayers money.

Joe has repeatedly told everyone that NO taxpayer money is being used for this investigation. However, as an American taxpayer, I can't see a better way to use our taxes than to investigate potential criminal acts and/or fraud by our government. How else can we keep tabs on those in power. Geesh.

These trolls must be getting paid good money to name-call, lie, slander and act like children on these forums. There will be a special hell for you. One of your own making that you can't escape

Sheriff Joe needs to stop wasting his tax payers money, the Supreme Court made their decision in a private meeting the first week Obama took office. They can bring this issue up in as many courts as they want, the Supreme Court has the final say.
 Quoting: Brunhilda


Joe isn't "wasting the tax payers money" his "cold case possey" is VOLUNTEER - they don't get paid for doing this investigation, but the fact that they ARE "official" law enforcement officers makes it a legitimate investigation ... whether they are doing it for free or not.


The Supreme Court is bought and paid for... they have denied to hear the case - based upon technicalities surrounding the way it has been presented to them ... every other "court" official, has been threatened to "comply" with their demands to drop the case

if you had been following the events surrounding this issue, of Obama's citizenship, you would understand why only Sherrif Joe has not been intimidated by the Presidents guard dogs ... that DO cost the American tax payers MILLIONS to cover up

wake up ... why won't he show us his birth certificate ? Obviously he is hiding something ... anyone else would have proudly produced theirs when the question first came up ... he doesn't have a BC ... he fabricated one for the sheeple so they could go back to sleep ... they would rather believe a lie, than deal with the facts

our country is being run by an illegal alien
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No....it has NoT been debunked. Where are you getting your information? Let me guess...TV and wikipedia.... And they so tell the truth, dont they?

Michelle Obozo saying her husband was born in Kenya
Senator articles write he was born in Kenya
He received foreign student financial aid
Booklets printed throughout the years have stated he was born in Kenya.

For crying out loud...Kenya says he was born in Kenya. They claim they have the birth certificate too.

So nooooo, it has not been debunked.

Why dont you just go veg out in front of the boob tube and leave these important matters to people who have a brain and actually care where their country is going.

L.
...Former Bergen County, N.J., detective Mike Zullo and his volunteer team were commissioned by Arpaio last September to investigate Obama’s eligibility after citizens raised concerns about the authenticity of the birth record the White House posted on its website. Zullo’s team announced March 1 that it found probable cause that the document is a forgery...
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead

3 months have passed since the announcement; Why didn't the Zullo's team present the alleged evidence thus far?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769


They did present the evidence! Sheriff Joe called a press conference. All the media outlets were there but they wouldnt air it on tv. Why not?

Because they dont want the slaves to wake up to the truth. Slaves like you who have no clue whats going on because you get all your info from tv.
sheep
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No, because the info he presented was already out there, and debunked, months earlier. Joe's "report" was actually just a reformatted version of one of his "investigators" reports... which she'd published months earlier, and which had very publicly been debunked.

The media ignored it because there was nothing to see, and because they know Joe is just pushing political propaganda, and because they've done enough research themselves to know Joe is full of shit...
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I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean.
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no, but that is what "they" would like you to believe ... but when only one of your parents is an American - the child is considered to have DUAL citizenship in both nations ...

The US constitution requires that the individual running for president must be a "natural born" citizen ... which means that BOTH of his parents are American (whether they are born here or not - as long as they are "Americans" at the time the child is born ... where the baby is born is not really all that important ... who his parents are - the ones that will raise him, to love America - doesn't matter

Barrack whom-ever, was born a dual citizen and is inelgible to run for the office of POTUS ... it doesn't matter if the entire population votes for him or not ... he isn't elgible to run, because he IS not a "natural born citizen ... he knows that, he is a "constitutional lawyer" and sat on the hearing to Vet McCain, as well as sponsored two bills to change the Constitution's requirements ... which failed to pass

America is still a Republic - and we are bound by the Constitution ... Obama was adopted by his step father, and became a citizen of Indonesia at the age of two ... Indonesia does not recognize "dual citizenship" ... and he relinquished his claim to be either American or Kenyan when he became Indonesian ... he has NEVER reinstated his "half" American status ... and therefore is NOT an American at all

so you see it doesn't matter WHERE you are born ... the only thing that determines your status as an American is who your parents are ... at the time of your birth

Mitt Romeny is also NOT a "natural born" citizen ... his dad was a Mexican citizen at the time of his birth - probably his mother was too, even though they were both born in America ... the gave up their citizenship because pologamy is illeagle in America and his dad had several wives ... so they moved to Mexico . The fact that they moved back to America - doesn't change the fact that Mitt was born to two Mexican citizens IN Mexico ... even if they crossed the border to have him born in the US ...

the reason for demanding that Presidents be "natural born" is to avoid the possibility of "a conflict of interests" as we see with Obama, favoring nations that share his "religion" ... when it came to giving Muslims money, he had no problem giving them billions ... but he didn't give billions to the Americans ... did he?
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


Perhaps the single most concise review of this issue I have read.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12844162


Consise and completely incorrect.

The idea of a Natural Born Citizen is based on the idea of Jus Soli.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Spend five minutes researching this and you'll see that hat means it's purely about where a child is born.

Here's the State Department saying the exact same thing:

[link to www.state.gov]

That CLEARLY states that the 14th Amendment is based PURELY on Jus Soli, meaning that citizenship of all strips, except non-citizen nationals, is based PURELY on place of birth, unless you happen to be the child of US citizens born abroad.

Then citizenship is based on the concept of Jus Sanguinis.

But if you are born in the US, unless you're the kid of foreign diplomats, you're a natural born citizen.

And you know what, Republicans have REPEATEDLY introduced legislation to change this, all of which has failed. Which they wouldn't have to do, unless the 14th Amendment was based on Jus Soli. Which it clearly is.

The concept that you need two American parents to be a NBC is a joke, a lie, perpetuated as part of a propaganda attack, funded and spread by Obama, and the Democrats, political enemies.

If you think the courts disagree, you don't know, or don't understand United States v. Wong Kim Ark, which clearly gave the kid of Chinese citizens all legal rights of a US citizen, and declared him an NBC.

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Wong Kim Ark, who was born in the United States to Chinese parents around 1871, had been denied re-entry to the U.S. after a trip abroad, under a law restricting Chinese immigration and prohibiting immigrants from China from becoming naturalized U.S. citizens. He challenged the government's refusal to recognize his citizenship, and the Supreme Court ruled in his favor, holding that the citizenship language in the Fourteenth Amendment encompassed essentially everyone born in the U.S.—even the U.S.-born children of foreigners—and could not be limited in its effect by an act of Congress.

Also check out Lynch v Clark:

Lynch v. Clarke, 3 N.Y.Leg.Obs. at 250. "Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever were the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen.... I am bound to say that the general understanding ... is that birth in this country does of itself constitute citizenship.... Thus when at an election, the inquiry is made whether a person offering to vote is a citizen or an alien, if he answers that he is a native of this country, it is received as conclusive that he is a citizen.... The universality of the public sentiment in this instance ... indicates the strength and depth of the common law principle, and confirms the position that the adoption of the Federal Constitution wrought no change in that principle."
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It's interesting how conservatives keep pushing: Romney (who is unqualified)

Rubio for VP (unqualified)

Bobby Jindal (unqualified)

And we all know by this time that Obama is unqualified (on multiple levels,not "just" constitutional)

In other words if this gets real traction the whole election will blow up and the Dems as well the Repubs will need new candidates.

Can anyone say Ron Paul Vs. Hillary?
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It's interesting how conservatives keep pushing: Romney (who is unqualified)

Rubio for VP (unqualified)

Bobby Jindal (unqualified)

And we all know by this time that Obama is unqualified (on multiple levels,not "just" constitutional)

In other words if this gets real traction the whole election will blow up and the Dems as well the Repubs will need new candidates.

Can anyone say Ron Paul Vs. Hillary?
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Sheriff Joe needs to stop wasting his tax payers money, the Supreme Court made their decision in a private meeting the first week Obama took office. They can bring this issue up in as many courts as they want, the Supreme Court has the final say.
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Here's some more info on all of this, including links to all the correspondence between Joe and the HI gov peeps:

[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

As you can see, Joe was told repeatedly that Obama was born in HI. If you hear him claiming otherwise you now know he's, again, lying to you.

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