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Sheriff Joe Sends Detectives to Honolulu

 
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What if the Hawaiin "officials" claimed obummer was the King of Siam. Should we just take their word for it? Go ahead...you try it the next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation.

Sheriff Joes office is requesting verification, not a certified copy, of his birth certificate. The Hawaiin officials refuse to do this. Because they are hiding something.

The selectiveservice department is playing games too. Changing their policies just days afterJoe announced his investigation. The SS office hadnt changed their policies ij 11 years, yet suddenly they change policy that gives them the right to destroy paper copy of ss cards.

Really, you need to step away from the TV.
Even though its obvious you foreign posters are gubment trolls. We can argue bacj and forth all day. You know you're wrong

Here's some more info on all of this, including links to all the correspondence between Joe and the HI gov peeps:

[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

As you can see, Joe was told repeatedly that Obama was born in HI. If you hear him claiming otherwise you now know he's, again, lying to you.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
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What if the Hawaiin "officials" claimed obummer was the King of Siam. Should we just take their word for it? Go ahead...you try it the next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


One more thing: States are legally obliged to trust each others documentation. A little fact birthers conveniently forget, no matter how many times they are told, and no matter how obvious it is.
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Here's some more info on all of this, including links to all the correspondence between Joe and the HI gov peeps:

[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

As you can see, Joe was told repeatedly that Obama was born in HI. If you hear him claiming otherwise you now know he's, again, lying to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Its more of this fake paradigm thats been created by the MSM. That if you take an issue, and have someone take each side of the issue. Then have them argue both sides of that issue. That both sides have a valid point. Even if the facts tell a different story. You see the facts, they dont matter because there are two opinions and every opinion is valid. Even if it is total nonsense, if you can get a part of the population to believe the nonsense then its a valid point.
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What if the Hawaiin "officials" claimed obummer was the King of Siam. Should we just take their word for it? Go ahead...you try it the next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


One more thing: States are legally obliged to trust each others documentation. A little fact birthers conveniently forget, no matter how many times they are told, and no matter how obvious it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Exactly. If you have a marriage license in Texas, its just as valid in Kentucky. etc. But that is just more facts, facts dont factor in this equation.
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Hmm... Sounds like youve got it all figured out. You must be smarter than all the law enforcement agents, political officials, journalists, authors, military people and lawyers that are 10 steps ahead of you in vetting obozo.

So if you're so sure of yourself, and you think the issue is "debunkked", then sit down and shut up. You have nothing to worry about, right? Just drink the kool aid your tv gives you. Leave the thinking to those who have brains.

What if the Hawaiin "officials" claimed obummer was the King of Siam. Should we just take their word for it? Go ahead...you try it the next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation.

Sheriff Joes office is requesting verification, not a certified copy, of his birth certificate. The Hawaiin officials refuse to do this. Because they are hiding something.

The selectiveservice department is playing games too. Changing their policies just days afterJoe announced his investigation. The SS office hadnt changed their policies ij 11 years, yet suddenly they change policy that gives them the right to destroy paper copy of ss cards.

Really, you need to step away from the TV.
Even though its obvious you foreign posters are gubment trolls. We can argue bacj and forth all day. You know you're wrong

Here's some more info on all of this, including links to all the correspondence between Joe and the HI gov peeps:

[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

As you can see, Joe was told repeatedly that Obama was born in HI. If you hear him claiming otherwise you now know he's, again, lying to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281
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Oh, and by the way, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try telling him that you dont need to show him your drivers license. Call a friend and have them vouch for you that you're someone else and then tell the cop to "go f.. Himself, you idiot copper."

I'll be ready with my camera and post the results on youtube for ya

5a



Hmm... Sounds like youve got it all figured out. You must be smarter than all the law enforcement agents, political officials, journalists, authors, military people and lawyers that are 10 steps ahead of you in vetting obozo.

So if you're so sure of yourself, and you think the issue is "debunkked", then sit down and shut up. You have nothing to worry about, right? Just drink the kool aid your tv gives you. Leave the thinking to those who have brains.


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
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What if the Hawaiin "officials" claimed obummer was the King of Siam. Should we just take their word for it? Go ahead...you try it the next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


One more thing: States are legally obliged to trust each others documentation. A little fact birthers conveniently forget, no matter how many times they are told, and no matter how obvious it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


I don't know where you get your information...but it's some really rotten info. Wake the fuck up.
 Quoting: Jack Hammer


It's in the constitution you idiot.

It's a pretty decent source of info.
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Oh, and by the way, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try telling him that you dont need to show him your drivers license. Call a friend and have them vouch for you that you're someone else and then tell the cop to "go f.. Himself, you idiot copper."

I'll be ready with my camera and post the results on youtube for ya

5a



Hmm... Sounds like youve got it all figured out. You must be smarter than all the law enforcement agents, political officials, journalists, authors, military people and lawyers that are 10 steps ahead of you in vetting obozo.

So if you're so sure of yourself, and you think the issue is "debunkked", then sit down and shut up. You have nothing to worry about, right? Just drink the kool aid your tv gives you. Leave the thinking to those who have brains.


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288



Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.
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05/22/2012 03:25 PM
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What amazes me here on these Obama birth certificate threads is that there are always the same people posting the same shit over and over and over stating that we need not be concerned , and that it's all blown out of proportion.
"Walk away, nothing more to see here" mentality. They constantly try and minimize it in an attempt to disqualify any discussion whatsoever.

Something stinks here, and it's beyond simple shill activity.

Personally, I avoid threads that make no sense, or that I have no interest or belief in, yet these same individuals swarm to post "as if it were their job or something ...."

spock

Just let it go people, some of us would like to have an honest conversation about the progress of finding the truth and validation of citizenship, and your say so just ain't cutting it.

You have not and will not convert anyone with your mindset, don't save us...

Now run along, it's time for the grown ups to have a chance to talk.
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05/22/2012 03:29 PM
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I have a constitution handbook right in front of me.

Tell me where it states that people are able to vouch for the identity and birth location of other people? Yeah...it doesn't.

Have a fabulous day trolling. I hope your kids and grandkids enjoy obozo's fascist ameriKa.


Oh, and by the way, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try telling him that you dont need to show him your drivers license. Call a friend and have them vouch for you that you're someone else and then tell the cop to "go f.. Himself, you idiot copper."

I'll be ready with my camera and post the results on youtube for ya

5a



Hmm... Sounds like youve got it all figured out. You must be smarter than all the law enforcement agents, political officials, journalists, authors, military people and lawyers that are 10 steps ahead of you in vetting obozo.

So if you're so sure of yourself, and you think the issue is "debunkked", then sit down and shut up. You have nothing to worry about, right? Just drink the kool aid your tv gives you. Leave the thinking to those who have brains.


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.
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05/22/2012 03:38 PM
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I haven't seen this until now:

Arpaio to release new Obama eligibility information

CBS 5 News pressed Zullo for answers upon learning that he and the sheriff are planning another news conference in late May or early June. The announcement would come roughly three months after Arpaio released the results from his six-month probe into the validity of the president's birth certificate.

[link to www.kpho.com]
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05/22/2012 03:44 PM
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Here's some more info on all of this, including links to all the correspondence between Joe and the HI gov peeps:

[link to tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]

As you can see, Joe was told repeatedly that Obama was born in HI. If you hear him claiming otherwise you now know he's, again, lying to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Its more of this fake paradigm thats been created by the MSM. That if you take an issue, and have someone take each side of the issue. Then have them argue both sides of that issue. That both sides have a valid point. Even if the facts tell a different story. You see the facts, they dont matter because there are two opinions and every opinion is valid. Even if it is total nonsense, if you can get a part of the population to believe the nonsense then its a valid point.
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes


What if the Hawaiin "officials" claimed obummer was the King of Siam. Should we just take their word for it? Go ahead...you try it the next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


One more thing: States are legally obliged to trust each others documentation. A little fact birthers conveniently forget, no matter how many times they are told, and no matter how obvious it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Exactly. If you have a marriage license in Texas, its just as valid in Kentucky. etc. But that is just more facts, facts dont factor in this equation.
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes


I have a constitution handbook right in front of me.

Tell me where it states that people are able to vouch for the identity and birth location of other people? Yeah...it doesn't.

Have a fabulous day trolling. I hope your kids and grandkids enjoy obozo's fascist ameriKa.


Oh, and by the way, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try telling him that you dont need to show him your drivers license. Call a friend and have them vouch for you that you're someone else and then tell the cop to "go f.. Himself, you idiot copper."

I'll be ready with my camera and post the results on youtube for ya

5a



Hmm... Sounds like youve got it all figured out. You must be smarter than all the law enforcement agents, political officials, journalists, authors, military people and lawyers that are 10 steps ahead of you in vetting obozo.

So if you're so sure of yourself, and you think the issue is "debunkked", then sit down and shut up. You have nothing to worry about, right? Just drink the kool aid your tv gives you. Leave the thinking to those who have brains.


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288



Yep. Thats why they ignore my posts. I think in some way the logic breaks through the stupid, and it scares them a bit.
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I have a constitution handbook right in front of me.

Tell me where it states that people are able to vouch for the identity and birth location of other people? Yeah...it doesn't.

Have a fabulous day trolling. I hope your kids and grandkids enjoy obozo's fascist ameriKa.


Oh, and by the way, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try telling him that you dont need to show him your drivers license. Call a friend and have them vouch for you that you're someone else and then tell the cop to "go f.. Himself, you idiot copper."

I'll be ready with my camera and post the results on youtube for ya

5a



Hmm... Sounds like youve got it all figured out. You must be smarter than all the law enforcement agents, political officials, journalists, authors, military people and lawyers that are 10 steps ahead of you in vetting obozo.

So if you're so sure of yourself, and you think the issue is "debunkked", then sit down and shut up. You have nothing to worry about, right? Just drink the kool aid your tv gives you. Leave the thinking to those who have brains.


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288



Maybe, and based on your responses I may be on to something, but maybe it's not a copy of the constition you need, but instead basic reading comprehension lessons.

Article Four of the US Constitution states:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
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I wonder when Sheriff Joe will send the posse to find the 80 to 100 million dollars he stole from the taxpayers of Arizona.

I hope you guys understand this Sheriff Joe fucker is no folk hero. He's as crooked a corrupt pig politician as has ever been. But he is at least an American as far as I know. I'll give him that.
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Im a resident of Sheriff Joe's county. He is not corrupt. Only the leftist shills try to paint him that way and it never sticks. You dont fuckin' know shit canadian. Screw you.
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I live in Maricopa County too to and I agree 100%. Most of us do trust him that is why he keeps getting elected.
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I haven't seen this until now:

Arpaio to release new Obama eligibility information

CBS 5 News pressed Zullo for answers upon learning that he and the sheriff are planning another news conference in late May or early June. The announcement would come roughly three months after Arpaio released the results from his six-month probe into the validity of the president's birth certificate.

[link to www.kpho.com]
 Quoting: TS66


You realise the report he issued after six months had already been released (and completely debunked) months earlier, by one of his "investigators". He just recycled it and stuck it back oh there.

We he actually did for those six months is anyone's guess. He certainly didn't investigate anything.
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Obama Birth Certificate "Report" Released by Joe Arpaio is Actually Eight Months Old

[link to blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com]
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I haven't seen this until now:

Arpaio to release new Obama eligibility information

CBS 5 News pressed Zullo for answers upon learning that he and the sheriff are planning another news conference in late May or early June. The announcement would come roughly three months after Arpaio released the results from his six-month probe into the validity of the president's birth certificate.

[link to www.kpho.com]
 Quoting: TS66


You realise the report he issued after six months had already been released (and completely debunked) months earlier, by one of his "investigators". He just recycled it and stuck it back oh there.

We he actually did for those six months is anyone's guess. He certainly didn't investigate anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


What I read in the above link is that he will soon have another press conference with more evidence. Hey who knows, maybe his evidence will be proof of citizenship he gathered while in Hawaii, he can let us know then.
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I haven't seen this until now:

Arpaio to release new Obama eligibility information

CBS 5 News pressed Zullo for answers upon learning that he and the sheriff are planning another news conference in late May or early June. The announcement would come roughly three months after Arpaio released the results from his six-month probe into the validity of the president's birth certificate.

[link to www.kpho.com]
 Quoting: TS66


You realise the report he issued after six months had already been released (and completely debunked) months earlier, by one of his "investigators". He just recycled it and stuck it back oh there.

We he actually did for those six months is anyone's guess. He certainly didn't investigate anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


What I read in the above link is that he will soon have another press conference with more evidence. Hey who knows, maybe his evidence will be proof of citizenship he gathered while in Hawaii, he can let us know then.
 Quoting: TS66


Hope for the sake of the birthers' sanity he has real undebunked, not recycled, evidence this time... I seriously doubt it, probably just more BS... but... you know...
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What if the Hawaiin "officials" claimed obummer was the King of Siam. Should we just take their word for it? Go ahead...you try it the next time you get pulled over for a traffic violation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288


One more thing: States are legally obliged to trust each others documentation. A little fact birthers conveniently forget, no matter how many times they are told, and no matter how obvious it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


I don't know where you get your information...but it's some really rotten info. Wake the fuck up.
 Quoting: Jack Hammer


It's in the constitution you idiot.

It's a pretty decent source of info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Where does it say states are legally obliged to trust each others documentation? Article, section, and clause please.
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Oh, and by the way, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try telling him that you dont need to show him your drivers license. Call a friend and have them vouch for you that you're someone else and then tell the cop to "go f.. Himself, you idiot copper."

I'll be ready with my camera and post the results on youtube for ya

5a



Hmm... Sounds like youve got it all figured out. You must be smarter than all the law enforcement agents, political officials, journalists, authors, military people and lawyers that are 10 steps ahead of you in vetting obozo.

So if you're so sure of yourself, and you think the issue is "debunkked", then sit down and shut up. You have nothing to worry about, right? Just drink the kool aid your tv gives you. Leave the thinking to those who have brains.


First, idiot, I'm an American. Not some "foreign poster" you suffer paranoid delusions about. Second, if you bother to click the link and follow it through to the correspondence you'll see they do confirm it.

So.

He asked, they confirmed, he continues to raise a stink, they've said, "go fuck yourself you idiot truther".

Which is what they should be saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.

Article, section, and clause please.
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I have a constitution handbook right in front of me.

Tell me where it states that people are able to vouch for the identity and birth location of other people? Yeah...it doesn't.

Have a fabulous day trolling. I hope your kids and grandkids enjoy obozo's fascist ameriKa.


Oh, and by the way, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try telling him that you dont need to show him your drivers license. Call a friend and have them vouch for you that you're someone else and then tell the cop to "go f.. Himself, you idiot copper."

I'll be ready with my camera and post the results on youtube for ya

5a



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Maybe, and based on your responses I may be on to something, but maybe it's not a copy of the constition you need, but instead basic reading comprehension lessons.

Article Four of the US Constitution states:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Very well. So let a Hawaiian official get on the record, under penalty of perjury and possible treason, and say Obama was born in Hawaii. Hasn't happened. Why?
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Who is paying for this "investigation"?
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One more thing: States are legally obliged to trust each others documentation. A little fact birthers conveniently forget, no matter how many times they are told, and no matter how obvious it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


I don't know where you get your information...but it's some really rotten info. Wake the fuck up.
 Quoting: Jack Hammer


It's in the constitution you idiot.

It's a pretty decent source of info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Where does it say states are legally obliged to trust each others documentation? Article, section, and clause please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16463693


Article Four Section One. As previous posted.
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I don't know where you get your information...but it's some really rotten info. Wake the fuck up.
 Quoting: Jack Hammer


It's in the constitution you idiot.

It's a pretty decent source of info.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Where does it say states are legally obliged to trust each others documentation? Article, section, and clause please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16463693


Article Four Section One. As previous posted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


In this case the documentation would be comprised of an official birth certificate.

Was one provided?
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I have a constitution handbook right in front of me.

Tell me where it states that people are able to vouch for the identity and birth location of other people? Yeah...it doesn't.

Have a fabulous day trolling. I hope your kids and grandkids enjoy obozo's fascist ameriKa.


...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16479288

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Maybe, and based on your responses I may be on to something, but maybe it's not a copy of the constition you need, but instead basic reading comprehension lessons.

Article Four of the US Constitution states:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
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Very well. So let a Hawaiian official get on the record, under penalty of perjury and possible treason, and say Obama was born in Hawaii. Hasn't happened. Why?


Go look at what Hawaii has said and done, look at other cases and see exactly what the precedent is.

A state official vouching that a Long Form birth cert is legit, which is what has happened, is covered by this.

These sorts of things are done by phone on a daily basis.

Why in the world do you think a cop from one state accepts your license without seeing your birth cert, proof of you passing the exams etc.?

Why is a marriage in one state valid in another?

All because of Article Four, Section One.
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For instance, before email, before faxes, if you wanted to get someone to vouch for someone's legal status (warrants and whatnot) you'd make a call.

Cops and others use radios and computers to check warrants... they don't look at the original documents... it's so obvious.
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I have a constitution handbook right in front of me.

Tell me where it states that people are able to vouch for the identity and birth location of other people? Yeah...it doesn't.

Have a fabulous day trolling. I hope your kids and grandkids enjoy obozo's fascist ameriKa.


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Go read the constition, then realise what an idiot you are and how ludicrous and idiotic your analogy is.

You birthers are truly simple minded and clueless.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Maybe, and based on your responses I may be on to something, but maybe it's not a copy of the constition you need, but instead basic reading comprehension lessons.

Article Four of the US Constitution states:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16463693

Very well. So let a Hawaiian official get on the record, under penalty of perjury and possible treason, and say Obama was born in Hawaii. Hasn't happened. Why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994281


Go look at what Hawaii has said and done, look at other cases and see exactly what the precedent is.

A state official vouching that a Long Form birth cert is legit, which is what has happened, is covered by this.

These sorts of things are done by phone on a daily basis.

Why in the world do you think a cop from one state accepts your license without seeing your birth cert, proof of you passing the exams etc.?

Why is a marriage in one state valid in another?

All because of Article Four, Section One.


Thank you, Thank you. Goodnight everybody. But im sure that such logically sound argument will be torn apart by the idiocy lurking in this thread.
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I haven't seen this until now:

Arpaio to release new Obama eligibility information

CBS 5 News pressed Zullo for answers upon learning that he and the sheriff are planning another news conference in late May or early June. The announcement would come roughly three months after Arpaio released the results from his six-month probe into the validity of the president's birth certificate.

[link to www.kpho.com]
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You realise the report he issued after six months had already been released (and completely debunked) months earlier, by one of his "investigators". He just recycled it and stuck it back oh there.

We he actually did for those six months is anyone's guess. He certainly didn't investigate anything.
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What I read in the above link is that he will soon have another press conference with more evidence. Hey who knows, maybe his evidence will be proof of citizenship he gathered while in Hawaii, he can let us know then.
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Hope for the sake of the birthers' sanity he has real undebunked, not recycled, evidence this time... I seriously doubt it, probably just more BS... but... you know...
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Really !!! I mean why would we have the audacity to expect the POTUS to have clear evidence of citizenship ??? It's just we worker drones that need it ....

Are you going find something productive to do now ???
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arpaio is a psy op...
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Both parents have to be natural citizens, with no other citizenship to any other countries. His father was dual, with no US ties.
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Yeah... that's not actually spelled out in any constitutional law.
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Actually it was spelled out by the very first Congress in 1790 when they determined naturalization and citizenship they also set what a Natural Born Citizen was
 Quoting: Masiro


Exactly and the constitution states that anyone born here, is a naturalized citizen. Doesnt matter who the parents are, or where they are from. If Obama was born in Hawaii, he is eligible. Seriously, when you guys go to college and get a degree in Political Science, or attend law school. Then lecture me about the laws of the land.
 Quoting: Frangas non Flectes




You fucking idiot! It states a "citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Also, they have to be subject to the jurisdiction there of, meaning obeying our laws & renouncing any loyalties to previous nations of residency. This is what makes the 100 million mexican nationals born in america, illegal. Their parents never renounced their loyalty to mexico. By sneaking into America, they were not "subjest to the jurisdiction there of", either.

Obama is a citizen of Indonesia. His birth father wasn't an American so obama can never be considered natural born.





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