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OMG!!!!!! 100% PROOF THAT 2012 WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!

 
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What you are writing about is conjecture...look it up.

Show us a mathematical theorem that is solvable and provable to back up your numbers.

Otherwise you're back to mere conjecture.
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just one question

THE MAYANS CALLED THIS GREAT CYCLE THE END OF A SUN. EACH SUN ENDED IN WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES.
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where in their calendar did they say this?
 Quoting: R...


It is the end of an age. Which is the end of a sun. Why else would you keep track of cycles? If cycles meant no importance to humanity/earth than cycles would have no meaning watsoever.
 Quoting: MayanGod


that's the argument why you believe or it is believed there will be catastrophies?

I see only taking 'the end of a sun' taken literally and suggesting that a cycle gets its life, its importance, merely from destructive endings?

I don't see concrete evidence Mayans said their would be physical destruction at the end of this cycle.
 Quoting: R...


Well look at the evidence of earth/humanity. Look at the progress we have made in the last 30 years. Knowledge has accelerated ever since the internet was made public. Why has progress accelerated in this point of humanity and not back in the 1200's or in the future of the 3000's??? Why all of a sudden has everything accelerated? Can that be a coincidence? Why couldn't an african american be elected in office in the 1400's or maybe in the 4000's??? What makes this time period so special? Mayans obviously gave us a warning..........when they spoke of the dark rift, they spoke of bad. Put 1 and 1 together.
"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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OMG THERES AN EAGLE ON THE BACK Of MY EURO THIS MEAN NAZI GERMANS ARE COMING BACK, PROOF HERE:
[link to www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk]

And even more strange; an allien will use his heavy machinegun against Europe as I can see on my Euro: [link to previous.presstv.ir] THIS IS 100% PROOF



















lol OP your full of shit bsflagbsflag5awhatever
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just one question

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where in their calendar did they say this?
 Quoting: R...


It is the end of an age. Which is the end of a sun. Why else would you keep track of cycles? If cycles meant no importance to humanity/earth than cycles would have no meaning watsoever.
 Quoting: MayanGod


that's the argument why you believe or it is believed there will be catastrophies?

I see only taking 'the end of a sun' taken literally and suggesting that a cycle gets its life, its importance, merely from destructive endings?

I don't see concrete evidence Mayans said their would be physical destruction at the end of this cycle.
 Quoting: R...


Well look at the evidence of earth/humanity. Look at the progress we have made in the last 30 years. Knowledge has accelerated ever since the internet was made public. Why has progress accelerated in this point of humanity and not back in the 1200's or in the future of the 3000's??? Why all of a sudden has everything accelerated? Can that be a coincidence? Why couldn't an african american be elected in office in the 1400's or maybe in the 4000's??? What makes this time period so special? Mayans obviously gave us a warning..........when they spoke of the dark rift, they spoke of bad. Put 1 and 1 together.
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again, far away from 100% proof, as you claim. There's only interpretation and suggestion, nothing more.

I'll be here at 01-01-2013 to wish you a Happy New Age hf
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Meh, I can make numbers fit anything. Its the meaning that's important and you have not proved the meaning of the numbers.

Big difference.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: snarky74


As we should since everything in existence IS numbers!
All of it!

Yet I must agree that there is not YET an abundance of evidence towards a single interpretation of the numbers in this case.
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It is the end of an age. Which is the end of a sun. Why else would you keep track of cycles? If cycles meant no importance to humanity/earth than cycles would have no meaning watsoever.
 Quoting: MayanGod


that's the argument why you believe or it is believed there will be catastrophies?

I see only taking 'the end of a sun' taken literally and suggesting that a cycle gets its life, its importance, merely from destructive endings?

I don't see concrete evidence Mayans said their would be physical destruction at the end of this cycle.
 Quoting: R...


Well look at the evidence of earth/humanity. Look at the progress we have made in the last 30 years. Knowledge has accelerated ever since the internet was made public. Why has progress accelerated in this point of humanity and not back in the 1200's or in the future of the 3000's??? Why all of a sudden has everything accelerated? Can that be a coincidence? Why couldn't an african american be elected in office in the 1400's or maybe in the 4000's??? What makes this time period so special? Mayans obviously gave us a warning..........when they spoke of the dark rift, they spoke of bad. Put 1 and 1 together.
 Quoting: MayanGod

again, far away from 100% proof, as you claim. There's only interpretation and suggestion, nothing more.

I'll be here at 01-01-2013 to wish you a Happy New Age hf
 Quoting: R...


You will never get truly 100% proof......than the meaning of life would go to waste. Money would have no meaning. Its better for some people not to know the truth. Its right in front of your eyes.
"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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just one question

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where in their calendar did they say this?
 Quoting: R...


It is the end of an age. Which is the end of a sun. Why else would you keep track of cycles? If cycles meant no importance to humanity/earth than cycles would have no meaning watsoever.
 Quoting: MayanGod


that's the argument why you believe or it is believed there will be catastrophies?

I see only taking 'the end of a sun' taken literally and suggesting that a cycle gets its life, its importance, merely from destructive endings?

I don't see concrete evidence Mayans said their would be physical destruction at the end of this cycle.
 Quoting: R...


Well look at the evidence of earth/humanity. Look at the progress we have made in the last 30 years. Knowledge has accelerated ever since the internet was made public. Why has progress accelerated in this point of humanity and not back in the 1200's or in the future of the 3000's??? Why all of a sudden has everything accelerated? Can that be a coincidence? Why couldn't an african american be elected in office in the 1400's or maybe in the 4000's??? What makes this time period so special? Mayans obviously gave us a warning..........when they spoke of the dark rift, they spoke of bad. Put 1 and 1 together.
 Quoting: MayanGod


All that relates to not only Mayan prophesy, but many other prophesies as well. Something may be happening, a new age, yes, but I believe God is at work..
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then don't claim it...
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It is the end of an age. Which is the end of a sun. Why else would you keep track of cycles? If cycles meant no importance to humanity/earth than cycles would have no meaning watsoever.
 Quoting: MayanGod


that's the argument why you believe or it is believed there will be catastrophies?

I see only taking 'the end of a sun' taken literally and suggesting that a cycle gets its life, its importance, merely from destructive endings?

I don't see concrete evidence Mayans said their would be physical destruction at the end of this cycle.
 Quoting: R...


Well look at the evidence of earth/humanity. Look at the progress we have made in the last 30 years. Knowledge has accelerated ever since the internet was made public. Why has progress accelerated in this point of humanity and not back in the 1200's or in the future of the 3000's??? Why all of a sudden has everything accelerated? Can that be a coincidence? Why couldn't an african american be elected in office in the 1400's or maybe in the 4000's??? What makes this time period so special? Mayans obviously gave us a warning..........when they spoke of the dark rift, they spoke of bad. Put 1 and 1 together.
 Quoting: MayanGod


All that relates to not only Mayan prophesy, but many other prophesies as well. Something may be happening, a new age, yes, but I believe God is at work..
 Quoting: Eazy D


cool2
"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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then don't claim it...
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I am going to claim it because it gives ME 100% proof and a lot more people on this board. It just doesn't give YOU 100% proof which I have no problem with watsoever.

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"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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You will never get truly 100% proof......than the meaning of life would go to waste. Money would have no meaning. Its better for some people not to know the truth. Its right in front of your eyes.
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We definitely disagree there!
I don't think it is better at any time for some "not to know the truth". That's an all ego-based judgment.

As for the "never" it is simply a matter of time that will provide us the proof or discredit.

Whatever comes in the future whether something or nothing, we will all experience it together (or not!)

Our limited lifespan of avg 70 years is simply too short for these huge cycles of time to be individually relevant. What we certainly can and must do is ensure that our current understanding and knowledge is passed on as correctly and as concisely as possible to the future generations. They may have the experience of time and wisdom of history to correctly decipher or interpret these mysteries - But we should never stop trying to do so ourselves!
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Since there is not much time left, let us party.
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Since there is not much time left, let us party.
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If I were to judge based on the economic situation of the entire World right now, I'd say we are certainly living it up beyond our means! Which might be interpreted as someone somewhere knows something we do not yet know - and they be damned for holding the secret from the rest.
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Umm... I am really bad at maths.

Can someone help? So far everything OP has stated seems correct...

I wanted to double-check the math on all of this. I confirmed the years in OP's katun/baktun estimate here:

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

√Check.

Now, if we consider that 1776 is technically, July, 4, 1776 and we add 19.7 to that date (rather than just 1776, which would imply Jan 1, 1776) - it seems to bring us right to Dec, 2012.

Can someone confirm? Am I correct?

Can someone nail it down to the EXACT day? Is it indeed Dec 21, 2012??
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What you are writing about is conjecture...look it up.

Show us a mathematical theorem that is solvable and provable to back up your numbers.

Otherwise you're back to mere conjecture.
 Quoting: snarky74


Facts are not conjecture.

Relying on inductive reasoning, that is using repeated observations to establish rules of thumb is a concept of proof that give mathematics its power and ensures that proven theories are as true today as they were two thousand years ago.

But since you want a Theorem, here you go:

DE AE AD

BC AC AB

Last Edited by Merci on 05/24/2012 11:59 AM
Tempus Edax Rerum - Time devours all things

Tempus est optimus iudex - Time will tell
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But that is a problem we've seen time and again throughout history.

The "high priests" (those keeping the scientific knowledge) held it close and refused to instruct those they felt were beneath them. They instead used the knowledge for control. As a result, when something catastrophic occurred, the masses, lacking the scientific knowledge to explain and understand what had occurred resorted to appeasing spirits and gods with barbaric and primitive practices. Exactly what we see in historic retrospect in the Mayans, Inca, Aztec, human-sacrifice practices.

If only the masses had been properly educated by the high priests throughout history, such insanity in the face of any cataclysm would never happen.

Our human history has certainly proved that the uneducated are easier to control than the educated but they are far more dangerous when disaster strikes!
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 Quoting: MayanGod


Umm... I am really bad at maths.

Can someone help? So far everything OP has stated seems correct...

I wanted to double-check the math on all of this. I confirmed the years in OP's katun/baktun estimate here:

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

Check.

Now, if we consider that 1776 is technically, July, 4, 1776 and we add 19.7 to that date (rather than just 1776, which would imply Jan 1, 1776) - it seems to bring us right to Dec, 2012.

Can someone confirm? Am I correct?

Can someone nail it down to the EXACT day? Is it indeed Dec 21, 2012??
 Quoting: Maya Clod 16040318



I also meant to thank the OP - excellent find!

I've been watching, reading and studying all of these ideas for some time and this was the first I heard of this calculation.

I do have one question - how do we know that the bottom of the period doesn't *BEGIN* with 4-7-1776 rather than end with it?
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it won't be 2012, It will be 2013
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what evers226

this is not the first time and it will be not the last time a prediction from doom tard lol

and sadly all the time , NOTHING HAPPEN
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What you are writing about is conjecture...look it up.

Show us a mathematical theorem that is solvable and provable to back up your numbers.

Otherwise you're back to mere conjecture.
 Quoting: snarky74


Facts are not conjecture.

Relying on inductive reasoning, that is using repeated observations to establish rules of thumb is a concept of proof that give mathematics its power and ensures that proven theories are as true today as they were two thousand years ago.

But since you want a Theorem, here you go:

DE AE AD

BC AC AB
 Quoting: Merci


His conclusion is conjecture plain and simple.

Math does not rely on inductive reasoning. I'm not sure where you got that, but certainly from no mathematical thinker...ever. Rules of thumb??? are you kidding? Try that with your math teacher.

Good try but this has to be the greatest epic mathematical fail ever.

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Mathematics (from Greek μάθημα máthēma, “knowledge, study, learning”) is the study of quantity, structure, space, and change.[2] Mathematicians seek out patterns[3][4] and formulate new conjectures. Mathematicians resolve the truth or falsity of conjectures by mathematical proof. The research required to solve mathematical problems can take years or even centuries of sustained inquiry. Since the pioneering work of Giuseppe Peano (1858–1932), David Hilbert (1862–1943), and others on axiomatic systems in the late 19th century, it has become customary to view mathematical research as establishing truth by rigorous deduction from appropriately chosen axioms and definitions. When those mathematical structures are good models of real phenomena, then mathematical reasoning often provides insight or predictions.

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it won't be 2012, It will be 2013
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That's helpful. Not.

Show us the maths or just be quiet.
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 Quoting: MayanGod


Umm... I am really bad at maths.

Can someone help? So far everything OP has stated seems correct...

I wanted to double-check the math on all of this. I confirmed the years in OP's katun/baktun estimate here:

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

Check.

Now, if we consider that 1776 is technically, July, 4, 1776 and we add 19.7 to that date (rather than just 1776, which would imply Jan 1, 1776) - it seems to bring us right to Dec, 2012.

Can someone confirm? Am I correct?

Can someone nail it down to the EXACT day? Is it indeed Dec 21, 2012??
 Quoting: Maya Clod 16040318



I also meant to thank the OP - excellent find!

I've been watching, reading and studying all of these ideas for some time and this was the first I heard of this calculation.

I do have one question - how do we know that the bottom of the period doesn't *BEGIN* with 4-7-1776 rather than end with it?
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cool2

Well to answer your question, the Roman Numerals on the first level would most likely mean the COMPLETION of the level rather than the start. For example, on the 13th level, would it be more appropriate to label that level with roman numerals of 1993 or 2012? Which one would signify that level better? It is a throw up to be honest, it could start with 1776 and than end instead 20 years later at 2032. But we will just never know.
"The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to."
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We are DOOMED!dogcat
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 Quoting: MayanGod


cool2

Well to answer your question, the Roman Numerals on the first level would most likely mean the COMPLETION of the level rather than the start. For example, on the 13th level, would it be more appropriate to label that level with roman numerals of 1993 or 2012? Which one would signify that level better? It is a throw up to be honest, it could start with 1776 and than end instead 20 years later at 2032. But we will just never know.
 Quoting: Maya Clod 16040318



Well, we may know on Jan 1, 2013... ;-)

This "new order" stated on the dollar bill may be a secular one, created by the PTB, meaning that it will signify their complete take over, control.

Or it could be a spiritual new order, created by the cosmos...

I'll say this, much of what is predicted in the Bible, i.e., mark of the beast (RFID), Israel being destroyed, hasn't come true (yet).

And so that means either: the Biblical prophecies are false - which based on world events thus far seems unlikely

Or we're going to have one hell of another 6 months to go...

Or the Biblical prophecies will come true, but take place over the next 32 years...

Nevertheless, fascinating find OP!
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 Quoting: MayanGod


Umm... I am really bad at maths.

Can someone help? So far everything OP has stated seems correct...

I wanted to double-check the math on all of this. I confirmed the years in OP's katun/baktun estimate here:

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

Check.

Now, if we consider that 1776 is technically, July, 4, 1776 and we add 19.7 to that date (rather than just 1776, which would imply Jan 1, 1776) - it seems to bring us right to Dec, 2012.

Can someone confirm? Am I correct?

Can someone nail it down to the EXACT day? Is it indeed Dec 21, 2012??
 Quoting: Maya Clod 16040318



I also meant to thank the OP - excellent find!

I've been watching, reading and studying all of these ideas for some time and this was the first I heard of this calculation.

I do have one question - how do we know that the bottom of the period doesn't *BEGIN* with 4-7-1776 rather than end with it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16040318


MayanGod (the OP) didn't cover it but it was covered earlier in the thread.

The 1756 date is 247 katuns and
Dec 21 2012 is the start of 260 katuns (or 13 Baktuns from Aug 11, 3114 BC)

1756 to 2012 is 13 katuns (13 x 19.713 years or 256.269 gregorian calendar years)


The 13 levels of the Great Seal Pyramid (with the Eye a design based on Hopkinson's Perennis stepped pyramid design) are being interepreted due to the fact that they match the number of katuns from 1756 to 12/21/12.

260 - 247 = 13

13 levels of the pyramid with 1776 in roman numerals on the bottom indicates that 1776 is the completion of the bottom level of the pyramid (1 katun or 19.713 years from katun #247 in 1756)
Level 2 is katun # 248
Level 3 is katun # 249
Level 4 is katun # 250
Level 5 is katun # 251
Level 6 is katun # 252
Level 7 is katun # 253
Level 8 is katun # 254
Level 9 is katun # 255
Level 10 is katun # 256
Level 11 is katun # 257
Level 12 is katun # 258
Level 13 is katun # 259 (start to finish on Dec 20,2012)
The EYE at Katun # 260 (13 baktun or long count 0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0) coincides exactly with 12/21/2012 when using the start date of the long count at Aug 11, 3114 BC
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Drop the Internet and try books for a month. Report back.
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Drunvalo was correct
Read his book flower of life book2
Or watch his videos for free
We are approaching the end if time, the end of this reality
A totally new world, next dimension up is 4th, this is the test
Thought + emotion = manifests
If you graduate from this then you proceed into 5th
Hence the golden age
The three days of darkness ties with this and the magnetic pole shift
This is why we are here
Ascension process and transformation
We are going home after hundreds of incarnations in darkness
Finally we are going home
Tptb don't want the truth to come out because the control freaks want to control and destroy right until omega point
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I like your thoughts friend.

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I remember noting that at one point or another in USA history that "260" also played well into the government structure. I think it was number of congress seats or something along those lines (early american history) can't remember now, perhaps someone does an could remind me?