I am a believer in Christ and the Bible says no one knows when the end will be, and face it, when lots of people expect something to happen, it doesn't. And that's how it's ALWAYS going to be, because people are insignificant compared to the higher power. We aren't going to be privy to such info. The end will come when it comes, but it's not going to happen all of a sudden for us all. I think we have not seen tribulations yet. I think things are getting near for us all, but not Dec 21st near. We are reaching a boiling point where something life-changing for us all is going to happen. If I think anything about 2012 it's that there is going to be some kind of change, for better or worse. I cannot see it being for the better though. Show me one instance of how our lives have truly gotten better over time, from a global standpoint, at least on a spiritual level. We are falling deeper into the cesspool of sin, without boundaries, people are becoming dumber and more base, more evil, more ways to do the evil. I think people who are expecting a positive change in consciousness need a reality check. Nothing will get better. I've lost all hope in mankind.