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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542544 United States 05/24/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hahah good one bob, make assumptions all day, i suggest you research how they came to the dates... serious, i don't even believe anything is going to happen...but the dates are right. Quoting: High Times Ever stop and ask yourself why you truly don't believe 'anything' is going to happen? You can arrive at some very interesting insight when you really challenge the reasons why you arrived at that 'opinion'. I suspect your left-brain is telling you nothing will happen because it sounds too 'illogical' or 'abnormal' for the left-brain.... You right-brain might tell you otherwise. you think about it, what is an atom really? we are trapped in a black hole. Same shit different smell, my lack of faith has to do with the amount of times i'v been lied to, nothing ever happens any more that can surprise me mate, pfffft yeah the world is not as it seems and nothing is going to happen, like nothing ever happens. Promise me you won't be too shocked or surprised to enjoy the experience when something really BIG and amazingly unimaginable really does happen, okay? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16040318 United States 05/24/2012 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm... I am really bad at maths. Can someone help? So far everything OP has stated seems correct... I wanted to double-check the math on all of this. I confirmed the years in OP's katun/baktun estimate here: [link to www.sacred-texts.com] Check. Now, if we consider that 1776 is technically, July, 4, 1776 and we add 19.7 to that date (rather than just 1776, which would imply Jan 1, 1776) - it seems to bring us right to Dec, 2012. Can someone confirm? Am I correct? Can someone nail it down to the EXACT day? Is it indeed Dec 21, 2012?? I also meant to thank the OP - excellent find! I've been watching, reading and studying all of these ideas for some time and this was the first I heard of this calculation. I do have one question - how do we know that the bottom of the period doesn't *BEGIN* with 4-7-1776 rather than end with it? MayanGod (the OP) didn't cover it but it was covered earlier in the thread. The 1756 date is 247 katuns and Dec 21 2012 is the start of 260 katuns (or 13 Baktuns from Aug 11, 3114 BC) 1756 to 2012 is 13 katuns (13 x 19.713 years or 256.269 gregorian calendar years) The 13 levels of the Great Seal Pyramid (with the Eye a design based on Hopkinson's Perennis stepped pyramid design) are being interepreted due to the fact that they match the number of katuns from 1756 to 12/21/12. 260 - 247 = 13 13 levels of the pyramid with 1776 in roman numerals on the bottom indicates that 1776 is the completion of the bottom level of the pyramid (1 katun or 19.713 years from katun #247 in 1756) Level 2 is katun # 248 Level 3 is katun # 249 Level 4 is katun # 250 Level 5 is katun # 251 Level 6 is katun # 252 Level 7 is katun # 253 Level 8 is katun # 254 Level 9 is katun # 255 Level 10 is katun # 256 Level 11 is katun # 257 Level 12 is katun # 258 Level 13 is katun # 259 (start to finish on Dec 20,2012) The EYE at Katun # 260 (13 baktun or long count 0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0) coincides exactly with 12/21/2012 when using the start date of the long count at Aug 11, 3114 BC Much appreciation for the reply—One of the best threads I've seen so far on GLP! |
MayanGod (OP) User ID: 2184573 United States 05/24/2012 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm... I am really bad at maths. Can someone help? So far everything OP has stated seems correct... I wanted to double-check the math on all of this. I confirmed the years in OP's katun/baktun estimate here: [link to www.sacred-texts.com] Check. Now, if we consider that 1776 is technically, July, 4, 1776 and we add 19.7 to that date (rather than just 1776, which would imply Jan 1, 1776) - it seems to bring us right to Dec, 2012. Can someone confirm? Am I correct? Can someone nail it down to the EXACT day? Is it indeed Dec 21, 2012?? I also meant to thank the OP - excellent find! I've been watching, reading and studying all of these ideas for some time and this was the first I heard of this calculation. I do have one question - how do we know that the bottom of the period doesn't *BEGIN* with 4-7-1776 rather than end with it? MayanGod (the OP) didn't cover it but it was covered earlier in the thread. The 1756 date is 247 katuns and Dec 21 2012 is the start of 260 katuns (or 13 Baktuns from Aug 11, 3114 BC) 1756 to 2012 is 13 katuns (13 x 19.713 years or 256.269 gregorian calendar years) The 13 levels of the Great Seal Pyramid (with the Eye a design based on Hopkinson's Perennis stepped pyramid design) are being interepreted due to the fact that they match the number of katuns from 1756 to 12/21/12. 260 - 247 = 13 13 levels of the pyramid with 1776 in roman numerals on the bottom indicates that 1776 is the completion of the bottom level of the pyramid (1 katun or 19.713 years from katun #247 in 1756) Level 2 is katun # 248 Level 3 is katun # 249 Level 4 is katun # 250 Level 5 is katun # 251 Level 6 is katun # 252 Level 7 is katun # 253 Level 8 is katun # 254 Level 9 is katun # 255 Level 10 is katun # 256 Level 11 is katun # 257 Level 12 is katun # 258 Level 13 is katun # 259 (start to finish on Dec 20,2012) The EYE at Katun # 260 (13 baktun or long count 0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0) coincides exactly with 12/21/2012 when using the start date of the long count at Aug 11, 3114 BC O yes....this sums it up very nicely. Excellent post. "The face of this entire planet could be rearranged in a matter of days; not thousands or millions of years. If we haven’t learned that by now because of the hardness of the scientific heart; we’re about to." |
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Merci User ID: 1499647 United States 05/24/2012 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technically a pyramid has 5 sides. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16572750 Kinda throws a wrench in your whole numerology bullshit doesn't it? Technically a triangle which is what a pyramid represents has 72 angles not 5. Kinda throws a wrench in your whole theory about numerology, but alas it is obvious, that logos and nous evades you. |
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grefey User ID: 12865962 United States 05/24/2012 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just one question Quoting: R... THE MAYANS CALLED THIS GREAT CYCLE THE END OF A SUN. EACH SUN ENDED IN WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES. Quoting: MayanGod where in their calendar did they say this? I personally believe the OP has a point. This is why: 1.) I believe 911 was perpetrated for specific reasons. To gain more control over the population over the entire world via creation of a national security state here and worldwide. It was a good reason to continue to prepare for continuity of government which was started under REAGAN and a lot of it is still top secret. 2.) All nations are desperately trying to hold together their failing economies and there is a lot of inter-nation cooperation in the background. 3.) The people running things are not stupid they know by prolonging this failing system things will only be worse yet they continue to do so. Why allow a financial collapse just before a cataclysm if it can be helped? 4.) Terrence McKenna (Timeline Zero) stated we have been living in our future since WW2(using our nat. res. at too rapid rate). Timeline Zero and the Mayan calender both end in Dec. 2012. 5.) The chemtrails are most likely filtering out excessive cosmic rays coming from the galactic center. They do correlate with excessive solar activity. 6.) Why all the apocalyptic movies, news, documentaries, etc. The MSM is preparing us subconsciously or consciously. 7.) Thing have gotten extremely strange since 911. I believe the NWO is a cover for the New Order of the Ages. I find nothing wrong with the Georgia Guidestones(in fact it all sounds good) except for how the population will be reduced to .5B. If it is a cosmic event that would explain it. IMHO It is an intuitive feeling that has changed me greatly since 2007 when I first started to explore it all. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542544 United States 05/24/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just one question Quoting: R... THE MAYANS CALLED THIS GREAT CYCLE THE END OF A SUN. EACH SUN ENDED IN WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES. Quoting: MayanGod where in their calendar did they say this? I personally believe the OP has a point. This is why: 1.) I believe 911 was perpetrated for specific reasons. To gain more control over the population over the entire world via creation of a national security state here and worldwide. It was a good reason to continue to prepare for continuity of government which was started under REAGAN and a lot of it is still top secret. 2.) All nations are desperately trying to hold together their failing economies and there is a lot of inter-nation cooperation in the background. 3.) The people running things are not stupid they know by prolonging this failing system things will only be worse yet they continue to do so. Why allow a financial collapse just before a cataclysm if it can be helped? 4.) Terrence McKenna (Timeline Zero) stated we have been living in our future since WW2(using our nat. res. at too rapid rate). Timeline Zero and the Mayan calender both end in Dec. 2012. 5.) The chemtrails are most likely filtering out excessive cosmic rays coming from the galactic center. They do correlate with excessive solar activity. 6.) Why all the apocalyptic movies, news, documentaries, etc. The MSM is preparing us subconsciously or consciously. 7.) Thing have gotten extremely strange since 911. I believe the NWO is a cover for the New Order of the Ages. I find nothing wrong with the Georgia Guidestones(in fact it all sounds good) except for how the population will be reduced to .5B. If it is a cosmic event that would explain it. IMHO It is an intuitive feeling that has changed me greatly since 2007 when I first started to explore it all. I really like your approach to this subject matter Grefey! Trust your intuition. Mine too is telling me that something unimaginable is in store for us all. But I don't see doom & gloom per se, I see something wonderful transpiring. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16618067 United Kingdom 05/24/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CHECK THIS PICTURE OUT!!! Quoting: MayanGod [link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk] [link to www.patriotart.us] EDIT: Check this picture out of the Aztec calendar behind Cortez. This picture is also in the middle of the US capitol rotunda. [link to upload.wikimedia.org] 2012 has been right in front of our eyes warning us of MAJOR DOOM since money started being used!! AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PYRAMID ON THE BACK OF THE $1 BILL ARE THE ROMAN NUMERALS MDCCLXXVI WHICH DECODES TO THE YEAR 1776 (FACT). There are exactly 13 levels on the pyramid. Which represent the 13 Katuns of the Mayan calendar! All symbolism of the Long Count Calendar ending in December 21, 2012. 4 sides of the pyramid of 13 levels gives 52, which is the number of weeks in our year!!! 13 and 52 are key numbers in the Mayan calendar systems. In the Great Cycle, there are 13 baktuns of 20 katuns each; each katun consists of 20 tuns OR 19.7 Years. So there are 5200 tuns in the Great Cycle. The first level of the pyramid began in 1756 and COMPLETED in 1776. If you don't believe me you can do your own calculations, and you will 100% GUARANTEE TO COME TO 2012 AS THE END OF THE 13TH LEVEL BEFORE THE ALL SEEING EYE!! EDIT: The Long Count, a span of 5,125 years, was further divided by the ancient Maya into 13ths, 20ths, and 260ths. The 13th parts (394 years) were called baktuns. The 260th parts (19.7 years) were called katuns. The 20ths of the Long Count were groups of 13 katuns (256 years) sometimes referred to as the "short count." Its all related. Its symbolism at its finest. THIS PYRAMID IS CLEARLY SHOWING THE LAST KATUN (256 Years from the start at 1756) OF THE LONG COUNT CALENDAR. THE LAST KATUN OF THE 13TH BAKTUN. THE MAYANS CALLED THIS GREAT CYCLE THE END OF A SUN. EACH SUN ENDED IN WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES. THE ELITE KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT THESE MAYANS AND EGYPTIANS THAT WE WILL NEVER TRULY KNOW. THIS IS NOW WAY IN HELL A COINCIDENCE!! All you shills prove me wrong now!!! 2012 WILL BE THE BIGGEST YEAR HUMANITY WILL EVER FACE!!! When 2013 comes will you STFU? The Egyptians and Mayans didn't know shit. |
Ijustforgotit User ID: 13519142 United States 05/24/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe Americas future was written in the stars and the Mayans discovered it and they themselves did not fully understand what would happen... Maybe the fact that the dollar coinsides with their long count calander calander is a coinsidence to us and was not intentionally done, but that the connection with our country and that date has been pre destened by the powers that govern the universe. So the universe is slowly starting to reveal the secret to us through symbolism that was man made... but un recognized.... just a theory |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16599370 Slovenia 05/24/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CHECK THIS PICTURE OUT!!! Quoting: MayanGod [link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk] [link to www.patriotart.us] EDIT: Check this picture out of the Aztec calendar behind Cortez. This picture is also in the middle of the US capitol rotunda. [link to upload.wikimedia.org] 2012 has been right in front of our eyes warning us of MAJOR DOOM since money started being used!! AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PYRAMID ON THE BACK OF THE $1 BILL ARE THE ROMAN NUMERALS MDCCLXXVI WHICH DECODES TO THE YEAR 1776 (FACT). There are exactly 13 levels on the pyramid. Which represent the 13 Katuns of the Mayan calendar! All symbolism of the Long Count Calendar ending in December 21, 2012. 4 sides of the pyramid of 13 levels gives 52, which is the number of weeks in our year!!! 13 and 52 are key numbers in the Mayan calendar systems. In the Great Cycle, there are 13 baktuns of 20 katuns each; each katun consists of 20 tuns OR 19.7 Years. So there are 5200 tuns in the Great Cycle. The first level of the pyramid began in 1756 and COMPLETED in 1776. If you don't believe me you can do your own calculations, and you will 100% GUARANTEE TO COME TO 2012 AS THE END OF THE 13TH LEVEL BEFORE THE ALL SEEING EYE!! EDIT: The Long Count, a span of 5,125 years, was further divided by the ancient Maya into 13ths, 20ths, and 260ths. The 13th parts (394 years) were called baktuns. The 260th parts (19.7 years) were called katuns. The 20ths of the Long Count were groups of 13 katuns (256 years) sometimes referred to as the "short count." Its all related. Its symbolism at its finest. THIS PYRAMID IS CLEARLY SHOWING THE LAST KATUN (256 Years from the start at 1756) OF THE LONG COUNT CALENDAR. THE LAST KATUN OF THE 13TH BAKTUN. THE MAYANS CALLED THIS GREAT CYCLE THE END OF A SUN. EACH SUN ENDED IN WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES. THE ELITE KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT THESE MAYANS AND EGYPTIANS THAT WE WILL NEVER TRULY KNOW. THIS IS NOW WAY IN HELL A COINCIDENCE!! All you shills prove me wrong now!!! 2012 WILL BE THE BIGGEST YEAR HUMANITY WILL EVER FACE!!! When 2013 comes will you STFU? News from the future: BREAKING: DOOM POSTPONED! again... and again... and again... |
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Merci User ID: 1499647 United States 05/24/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CHECK THIS PICTURE OUT!!! Quoting: MayanGod [link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk] Cycle. The first level of the pyramid began in 1756 and COMPLETED in 1776. If you don't believe me you can do your All you shills prove me wrong now!!! 2012 WILL BE THE BIGGEST YEAR HUMANITY WILL EVER FACE!!! The Egyptians and Mayans didn't know shit. LOL That is why the Mayan calendar is more accurate than the Gregorian calendar we use today? And furthermore it has been discovered that the Mayan Calendar is within .002 as accurate as the Atomic clock. Yea, You must be right, the Mayans didnt know shit. LOL |
grefey User ID: 12865962 United States 05/24/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just one question Quoting: R... THE MAYANS CALLED THIS GREAT CYCLE THE END OF A SUN. EACH SUN ENDED IN WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES. Quoting: MayanGod where in their calendar did they say this? I personally believe the OP has a point. This is why: 1.) I believe 911 was perpetrated for specific reasons. To gain more control over the population over the entire world via creation of a national security state here and worldwide. It was a good reason to continue to prepare for continuity of government which was started under REAGAN and a lot of it is still top secret. 2.) All nations are desperately trying to hold together their failing economies and there is a lot of inter-nation cooperation in the background. 3.) The people running things are not stupid they know by prolonging this failing system things will only be worse yet they continue to do so. Why allow a financial collapse just before a cataclysm if it can be helped? 4.) Terrence McKenna (Timeline Zero) stated we have been living in our future since WW2(using our nat. res. at too rapid rate). Timeline Zero and the Mayan calender both end in Dec. 2012. 5.) The chemtrails are most likely filtering out excessive cosmic rays coming from the galactic center. They do correlate with excessive solar activity. 6.) Why all the apocalyptic movies, news, documentaries, etc. The MSM is preparing us subconsciously or consciously. 7.) Thing have gotten extremely strange since 911. I believe the NWO is a cover for the New Order of the Ages. I find nothing wrong with the Georgia Guidestones(in fact it all sounds good) except for how the population will be reduced to .5B. If it is a cosmic event that would explain it. IMHO It is an intuitive feeling that has changed me greatly since 2007 when I first started to explore it all. I really like your approach to this subject matter Grefey! Trust your intuition. Mine too is telling me that something unimaginable is in store for us all. But I don't see doom & gloom per se, I see something wonderful transpiring. I truly have faith in humanity and in what we can all accomplish when we learn to come together for the greater good. I think life is a learning experience in spiritual evolution for the most part. I just think the Universe works in cycles and birth, life, death and rebirth. I do believe this is the end of the cycle, but not the end of any of us. We will be recycled and come back to evolve more. Maybe I am prejudice because I would like a long rest and a new body before I continue. LOL |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15908971 United States 05/24/2012 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CHECK THIS PICTURE OUT!!! Quoting: MayanGod [link to www.diagnosis2012.co.uk] [link to www.patriotart.us] EDIT: Check this picture out of the Aztec calendar behind Cortez. This picture is also in the middle of the US capitol rotunda. [link to upload.wikimedia.org] 2012 has been right in front of our eyes warning us of MAJOR DOOM since money started being used!! AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PYRAMID ON THE BACK OF THE $1 BILL ARE THE ROMAN NUMERALS MDCCLXXVI WHICH DECODES TO THE YEAR 1776 (FACT). There are exactly 13 levels on the pyramid. Which represent the 13 Katuns of the Mayan calendar! All symbolism of the Long Count Calendar ending in December 21, 2012. 4 sides of the pyramid of 13 levels gives 52, which is the number of weeks in our year!!! 13 and 52 are key numbers in the Mayan calendar systems. In the Great Cycle, there are 13 baktuns of 20 katuns each; each katun consists of 20 tuns OR 19.7 Years. So there are 5200 tuns in the Great Cycle. The first level of the pyramid began in 1756 and COMPLETED in 1776. If you don't believe me you can do your own calculations, and you will 100% GUARANTEE TO COME TO 2012 AS THE END OF THE 13TH LEVEL BEFORE THE ALL SEEING EYE!! EDIT: The Long Count, a span of 5,125 years, was further divided by the ancient Maya into 13ths, 20ths, and 260ths. The 13th parts (394 years) were called baktuns. The 260th parts (19.7 years) were called katuns. The 20ths of the Long Count were groups of 13 katuns (256 years) sometimes referred to as the "short count." Its all related. Its symbolism at its finest. THIS PYRAMID IS CLEARLY SHOWING THE LAST KATUN (256 Years from the start at 1756) OF THE LONG COUNT CALENDAR. THE LAST KATUN OF THE 13TH BAKTUN. THE MAYANS CALLED THIS GREAT CYCLE THE END OF A SUN. EACH SUN ENDED IN WORLDWIDE CATASTROPHES. THE ELITE KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT THESE MAYANS AND EGYPTIANS THAT WE WILL NEVER TRULY KNOW. THIS IS NOW WAY IN HELL A COINCIDENCE!! All you shills prove me wrong now!!! 2012 WILL BE THE BIGGEST YEAR HUMANITY WILL EVER FACE!!! Why dont you think the crop circle is proof that the sun will begin its red giant phase on the 23 of dec? that would explain alot |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449691 United States 05/24/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People can speculate about the rapture event timing until they are blue in the face, but to what avail? Unless there is sound biblical evidence to back up one’s position, it is worthless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449691 ^^ RELIGI-Tard ^^ You should have read on... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1449691 United States 05/24/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People can speculate about the rapture event timing until they are blue in the face, but to what avail? Unless there is sound biblical evidence to back up one’s position, it is worthless. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1449691 ^^ RELIGI-Tard ^^ You should have read on... Because I love the brethren, I am going to try just one more time, to show biblical evidence why the rapture of the Church has to be now within a very small allowable number of days. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542544 United States 05/24/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I truly have faith in humanity and in what we can all accomplish when we learn to come together for the greater good. I think life is a learning experience in spiritual evolution for the most part. I just think the Universe works in cycles and birth, life, death and rebirth. I do believe this is the end of the cycle, but not the end of any of us. We will be recycled and come back to evolve more. Maybe I am prejudice because I would like a long rest and a new body before I continue. LOL Quoting: grefey Me too (even though I am only 30) however I believe our minds have been conditioned to believe that 'change' is a very slow and drawn out process (much like the Darwinian theory of evolution suggests). However I think the big 'secret' is that change/evolution/growth can manifest itself in the 'blink of an eye' with help from a 'cosmic influence'. So while many are sitting around believing this but thinking they will be 'dead' before any meaningful 'changes' are manifested, I suggest they should attempt to 'think again'. : ) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1673157 Canada 05/24/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since a Religitard popped up, Let's xplore a code right in front of the face of everyone. LU-CIPHER 12/21 - CIpher. The 12/21/12 Code. Even the Mormons (read as Mitt Romney) know about the space-brothers and the "LU"-Cipher (go ahead and ask him! I double dare you!) :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1673157 Canada 05/24/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because I love the brethren, I am going to try just one more time, to show biblical evidence why the rapture of the Church has to be now within a very small allowable number of days. and just because you speak of doom doesn't make you less of a Religitard, just as I am a numbertard |