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Proposed legislation in NY would remove anonymous postings on websites.

 
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All they want to know is who's taxes the need to audit.
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I said after that lawsuit where the anonymous trolls were sued for 14$ million dollars that they would end the practice of any anonymous posting online


Proposed legislation in both chambers would require New York-based websites, such as blogs and newspapers, to "remove any comments posted on his or her website by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post."

Republican Assemblyman Jim Conte said the legislation would cut down on "mean-spirited and baseless political attacks"

NYS is going after those big bag cyber bullies

Heres the bill:

[link to assembly.state.ny.us]
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Looking at that bill anonymous posting is still allowed but as soon as anyone request it be removed then it has to be removed unless the poster attaches his or her real name.

It doesn't even specify that the post has to be offensive, just that once a request is made it has to be named or deleted.

If you can write to your local paper anonymously and have that published then the same standard should be applied to the internet. Let the "editor" decide if it should be published or not, with the name only released to authorities if a criminal act is commmitted by its publication.
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after careful reading

i would like to clarify what this bill means.

it does not ban or prevent anonymous postings.

but if the website administrator is based in NY then they will have to remove specific anonymous posts on request from their website.
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and the answer to this problem is just not have the webstie admin living in new york.. problem solved.

..next?
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Well of course it would have to be New York.

First take their guns, and then take away their
freedom of speach.

Notice that one follows the other?
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Where's the glp disclaimer? Gone?
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I disagree.
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the Founding Fathers made a lot of anonymous posts

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Is John Smith gonna be the ubiquitous ny message board denizen? That ought to fix it. Or are they going to require name address ssn to post a comment in ny?
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Is John Smith gonna be the ubiquitous ny message board denizen? That ought to fix it. Or are they going to require name address ssn to post a comment in ny?
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If someone says something offensive, you need verified ID next to the post, or it'll be deleted.

Which means political opinions in NY would be effectively squashed.

Edit: doesn't even need to be offensive...

Last Edited by theDtrain on 05/22/2012 10:19 PM
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and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

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They are going to use Facebook API and then google API for all commenting systems. Won't apply to forums just yet...
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Is John Smith gonna be the ubiquitous ny message board denizen? That ought to fix it. Or are they going to require name address ssn to post a comment in ny?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15884967


If someone says something offensive, you need verified ID next to the post, or it'll be deleted.

Which means political opinions in NY would be effectively squashed.

Edit: doesn't even need to be offensive...
 Quoting: theDtrain


it does not ban or prevent anonymous postings.

but if the website administrator is based in NY then they will have to remove specific anonymous posts on request from their website.

and the answer to this problem is just not have the webstie admin living in new york.. problem solved.
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Is John Smith gonna be the ubiquitous ny message board denizen? That ought to fix it. Or are they going to require name address ssn to post a comment in ny?
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Fuck them! Like some dick is gonna come bother you, and so what if they do, be prepared like you should be anyways.

A nice thermos of liquid oxygen will take the fight out of pretty much anyone, or anything else for that matter.
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ok, then people should have the title "government shill"for the appropriate posts, too.
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Is John Smith gonna be the ubiquitous ny message board denizen? That ought to fix it. Or are they going to require name address ssn to post a comment in ny?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15884967


If someone says something offensive, you need verified ID next to the post, or it'll be deleted.

Which means political opinions in NY would be effectively squashed.

Edit: doesn't even need to be offensive...
 Quoting: theDtrain


it does not ban or prevent anonymous postings.

but if the website administrator is based in NY then they will have to remove specific anonymous posts on request from their website.

and the answer to this problem is just not have the webstie admin living in new york.. problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16534132


Anyone can request it taken down. Which would effectively end any discussion. Judging by what people on her infer as abusive, this would get abused badly. So it would prevent anon posting in some form.

And why move when this couldn't possibly be allowed?
Facts are stubborn things;
and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

We can never shed our sins and regrets, only accumulate more, a burden that we grow and carry until our deaths. The best we can do is learn to live with ourselves, to accommodate our pasts

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05/22/2012 10:25 PM
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yet you can anonymously look a kidddy porn so long as you are "merely viewing" it.

NYC is shitstream
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Yea, how many legislators have it on their computers...?


What don't these idiots get, the more you try to contain the internet the bigger it gets.
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Not only that, your Lion looks pretty happy!
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yet you can anonymously look a kidddy porn so long as you are "merely viewing" it.

NYC is shitstream
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16335227

Yea, how many legislators have it on their computers...?


What don't these idiots get, the more you try to contain the internet the bigger it gets.
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Not only that, your Lion looks pretty happy!
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lol
Facts are stubborn things;
and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

We can never shed our sins and regrets, only accumulate more, a burden that we grow and carry until our deaths. The best we can do is learn to live with ourselves, to accommodate our pasts

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Is John Smith gonna be the ubiquitous ny message board denizen? That ought to fix it. Or are they going to require name address ssn to post a comment in ny?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15884967


If someone says something offensive, you need verified ID next to the post, or it'll be deleted.

Which means political opinions in NY would be effectively squashed.

Edit: doesn't even need to be offensive...
 Quoting: theDtrain


it does not ban or prevent anonymous postings.

but if the website administrator is based in NY then they will have to remove specific anonymous posts on request from their website.

and the answer to this problem is just not have the webstie admin living in new york.. problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16534132


Anyone can request it taken down. Which would effectively end any discussion. Judging by what people on her infer as abusive, this would get abused badly. So it would prevent anon posting in some form.

And why move when this couldn't possibly be allowed?
 Quoting: theDtrain


they can only request it be taken off the website, if the website administrator is based in NY... thats what the bill says/means.
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if this bill passes, being a website admin in NY will come with a fatter paycheck!
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agent "critical opinion is almost the same as terrorism. See or even think something, say something"
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they can only request it be taken off the website, if the website administrator is based in NY... thats what the bill says/means.
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Yep, that's the thread title.

You realize NY hosts many, many sites yes?
Facts are stubborn things;
and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

We can never shed our sins and regrets, only accumulate more, a burden that we grow and carry until our deaths. The best we can do is learn to live with ourselves, to accommodate our pasts

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they can only request it be taken off the website, if the website administrator is based in NY... thats what the bill says/means.
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Yep, that's the thread title.

You realize NY hosts many, many sites yes?
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yes but after much study i realise its not talking about where the data is hosted just where the website admin lives.

so the obvious answer is not to have the registered website admin in ny.. simply change the registration to show a person in another state is the website admin..

am i gettin my point across???
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yes but after much study i realise its not talking about where the data is hosted just where the website admin lives.

so the obvious answer is not to have the registered website admin in ny.. simply change the registration to show a person in another state is the website admin..

am i gettin my point across???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16534132


Gotcha now, good catch

Still shouldn't have to, because this proposed legislation is horseshit
Facts are stubborn things;
and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."

We can never shed our sins and regrets, only accumulate more, a burden that we grow and carry until our deaths. The best we can do is learn to live with ourselves, to accommodate our pasts

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yes but after much study i realise its not talking about where the data is hosted just where the website admin lives.

so the obvious answer is not to have the registered website admin in ny.. simply change the registration to show a person in another state is the website admin..

am i gettin my point across???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16534132


Gotcha now, good catch

Still shouldn't have to, because this proposed legislation is horseshit
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indeed, and on the other hand website admins living in ny will have a load more work on their hands, so will probably mean more pay for them, so naturally the work will go elsewhere.

and on an offshoot to this eventually no company will want to have their admin in ny, so a bad business move there.
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yes but after much study i realise its not talking about where the data is hosted just where the website admin lives.

so the obvious answer is not to have the registered website admin in ny.. simply change the registration to show a person in another state is the website admin..

am i gettin my point across???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16534132


Gotcha now, good catch

Still shouldn't have to, because this proposed legislation is horseshit
 Quoting: theDtrain


indeed, and on the other hand website admins living in ny will have a load more work on their hands, so will probably mean more pay for them, so naturally the work will go elsewhere.

and on an offshoot to this eventually no company will want to have their admin in ny, so a bad business move there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16534132


you really do have retards writing up there public contracts over there, and if their not retards then they must have vested interests to do such.
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Anyone with a brain knows that annon is nonon anyays ! Your always tracked and or leaving some kind of a calling card or trail !
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I have NO problem with standing behind my real name, where I live, what I feel, what I type, who my friends are, what I think, and how I verbalize it all.

Wanna hold me accountable for what I say and do?? I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with that.....as long as the government does the same thing.

The difference here is that I've always been held accountable of what I do. In the past, in the present, and in the future. The first time I over-drew my checking account when I was 18 years old and had to pay bank fees, store fees, plus make good on the check. Wasn't intentional...just bad book keeping. I mean, I was 18 and this was check #109. That's a lesson I learned the FIRST time....lol Bad record keeping cost me half my paycheck back then....and my parents didn't BAIL ME OUT. It was a growing experience I had to learn. Cost me a lot of money (back then seemed like a lot). And guess what? I've never done it since.

So Mr/Mrs government wants to hold ME accountable? I'm ALL FOR THAT....but quid pro quo, and lead by example.

An honest person has NO reason to hide the truth.

Does that ring a bell??
"the truth will stand up, when nothing else will"
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yet you can anonymously look a kidddy porn so long as you are "merely viewing" it.

NYC is shitstream
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ok, then people should have the title "government shill"for the appropriate posts, too.
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I have NO problem with standing behind my real name, where I live, what I feel, what I type, who my friends are, what I think, and how I verbalize it all.

Wanna hold me accountable for what I say and do?? I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with that.....as long as the government does the same thing.

The difference here is that I've always been held accountable of what I do. In the past, in the present, and in the future. The first time I over-drew my checking account when I was 18 years old and had to pay bank fees, store fees, plus make good on the check. Wasn't intentional...just bad book keeping. I mean, I was 18 and this was check #109. That's a lesson I learned the FIRST time....lol Bad record keeping cost me half my paycheck back then....and my parents didn't BAIL ME OUT. It was a growing experience I had to learn. Cost me a lot of money (back then seemed like a lot). And guess what? I've never done it since.

So Mr/Mrs government wants to hold ME accountable? I'm ALL FOR THAT....but quid pro quo, and lead by example.

An honest person has NO reason to hide the truth.

Does that ring a bell??
 Quoting: ladyannie2009


Right, this is true, and it's a double edged sword- Remove the shill, and you remove the opinion of someone who stands to lose from it.

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