Sheriff Joe - is NOT buying it! Wants to see the BC himself - Update: Document Link in P. 9 | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13744385 05/23/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Joe allowed to leave the state while he is still being investigated for breaching the constitution, election fraud and misusing $100 million of taxpayers money, if only he could think of a smokescreen...... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10739403 05/23/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is Eligible to Apply for an Amended Certificate of Birth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11812402 As provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth: A person born in the State of Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health and has become legally adopted, or has undergone a sex change operation, or a legal determination of the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship for a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file has been made, or previously recorded information in relation to the person’s surname and/or the father’s personal particulars has been altered pursuant to law. A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii. I believe that this is what is going on, I believe that his grand parents adapted him and his birth certificate was changed because of the adoption! [link to hawaii.gov] under the US Constitution, MINOR v HAPPERSETT, 88 US, 162, (Wall), 162....OBAMA HAS THE LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PROVE TO WE THE PEOPLE HE IS ELIGIBLE TO BE POTUS...OTHERWISE HE IS COMMITTING TREASON AND CAN BE HUNG BY THE NECK TIL DEAD....that would be a fitting ending for obama...hang him in a tree on the front lawn of the white house as an example for any other who thinks they can fraudulent take over the white house....(PAY ATTENTION MITT ROMNEY!!!) Ron Paul will be the next POTUS.....these bozos will face the music of the LAW of a Republic for what they have done these last 4 years....obama is TOAST |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10739403 05/23/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking we'll soon see Sheriff Joe in the news sonn about something happening to him... He's barkin up that tree man... (the one in Harry Potter movies) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2507375 Sheriff Joe is protected by Devine intervention...make no mistake about it...he will succeed in taking down obozo... many are praying for the Father, Christ our Lord to intervene and save this nation from the corruption...Sheriff Joe is not alone in his plight...he is surrounded by powerful forces. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8625162 05/23/2012 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11812402 Cause he is a OFFICIAL working a case, thus he has AUTHORITY to see it..... dumb, dumb, dumb, one. what "case"? the birther fairies vs the president of the United States of America? you people are fucking delusional. He is working this CASE, he has assigned top officials to this idiot!!!! He has proven it was forgery! really? he has PROVEN it is a forgery? wow that's amazing! I take it back y'all aren't delusional at all! I'm sure Barry will be stepping down any day now! congratulations! any document labeled as official government issued CANNOT have multiple layers embedded within it. Obama's birth certificate has just that, layer upon layer of text and background, which is indicative of a fake.....plain and simple. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12045072 05/23/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12045072 so how exactly is "Sheriff Joe" gonna "see the BC himself"? dop you think your posting on some other thread or something? Cause he is a OFFICIAL working a case, thus he has AUTHORITY to see it..... dumb, dumb, dumb, one. what "case"? the birther fairies vs the president of the United States of America? you people are fucking delusional. You have it wrong, it will be "We the People" of the USA vs. an alleged alien usurper if / when but with all the arse covering going on in advance, when is more likely than if. Actually since it's the office of POTUS, it will be an international event. um okay and when does this "case" start exactly? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12045072 05/23/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12045072 what "case"? the birther fairies vs the president of the United States of America? you people are fucking delusional. He is working this CASE, he has assigned top officials to this idiot!!!! He has proven it was forgery! really? he has PROVEN it is a forgery? wow that's amazing! I take it back y'all aren't delusional at all! I'm sure Barry will be stepping down any day now! congratulations! any document labeled as official government issued CANNOT have multiple layers embedded within it. Obama's birth certificate has just that, layer upon layer of text and background, which is indicative of a fake.....plain and simple. well I guess if it's all so plain and simple Barry will be stepping down! like I said congratulations! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542645 05/23/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is that all you got - kindergarten grade insults, without any relevant argument whosoever? Birtherism seems to be nothing else but inane smearing campaign pleasing trailer trash that can’t get over the fact that a colored man is seating in the White House. I not impressed by Obama’s performance, but this endless stream of garbage made me sympathize with him; I hope he’ll win the next term - just in spite of Birthers. * You're a racist and a hater, you're assuming everyone who asks questions about all the inconsistences is "white" out to get a "colored". Well you're wrong, but thinking everyone who wants the truth is "white trailer trash" makes you a bigot and a racist. Oh and classist too. Truth hurts, right? Were you seeking for truth with the same scrutiny after McCain and Rmoney's credentials? Where they were born, again - especially McCain? Can you provide links to their BCs, please? Long form, of course. * McCain's whole issue was resolved. Literally. Two US citizen parents = Natural Born citizen. [link to www.opencongress.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542645 05/23/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who is Eligible to Apply for an Amended Certificate of Birth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11812402 As provided by law (HRS §§338-17.7, 338-20.5), the following persons may apply for an amended certificate of birth: A person born in the State of Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health and has become legally adopted, or has undergone a sex change operation, or a legal determination of the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship for a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file has been made, or previously recorded information in relation to the person’s surname and/or the father’s personal particulars has been altered pursuant to law. A person born in a foreign country who has been legally adopted in the State of Hawaii. I believe that this is what is going on, I believe that his grand parents adapted him and his birth certificate was changed because of the adoption! [link to hawaii.gov] I wouldn't rule out the other points so quickly. Sex change operation, possible, but not probable. Previously recorded information ... ... well there is that little historical footnote that his father Obama Sr had been married before he met Dunham, and was in fact still married to wife no. 1 at the time, and so the story goes, neglected to tell her when he married her. IIRC this was one of the primary reasons he was refused consideration for US citizenship. But seems to me this, if he was indeed legally married to Dunham, might fall under the previously recorded information. What would happen with their marriage records (if any, none have been located)? If they weren't married, what legal right would Obama have to the name in the US? There's always so many questions, and few answers. If he was adopted legally by his grandparents, and it happens his parents hadn't been legally married, what name would he have been using? If his parents weren't married, then what kind of legalities would be involved for him to use his father's name? I don't think (17 year old at the time) pregnant young ladies can just up and claim anyone's the father, and then name their children after him! Or can they, and then it would require some proof of paternity or something? I dunno. I do notice that Obama Sr didn't sign. And, wasn't Obama Jr (let's say) legally adopted (maybe a second time) by his step-father? So many questions. I think enough to drive historians mad in the future and fill up years of their time. And yet there still is this: two US citizen parents = Natural Born citizen Be sure to check out the co-sponsors of this Bill (all five of them): [link to www.opencongress.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16578524 05/23/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Until they aren't. *We* decide how long we are gonna put up with this fucking trash.[/i] Greetings and goodwill I offer to my fellow A/C!! I'm ready to express my solidarity with and understanding of a general world view of repulsion and disgust towards the present world order, fouled up as it is, with 98% or so of common humanity living as dupes of the shadow government which exists as a parasite upon our species. Like you, I feel disgusted to the point of anger. It seems to me that antiwar attitudes and activity at the quietest, most low-key, person-to-person level are the best way of constructively channeling such feelings. If Democracy really worked, then the interests of the 98% would be more clearly evident. E.g. it never occurred to me as a child that I would live to see bottled water sold in shops, even water from Fiji.. but must hit the pit now.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11812402 05/23/2012 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking we'll soon see Sheriff Joe in the news sonn about something happening to him... He's barkin up that tree man... (the one in Harry Potter movies) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2507375 Sheriff Joe is protected by Devine intervention...make no mistake about it...he will succeed in taking down obozo... many are praying for the Father, Christ our Lord to intervene and save this nation from the corruption...Sheriff Joe is not alone in his plight...he is surrounded by powerful forces. ^^^^ THIS |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542645 05/23/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11812402 Cause he is a OFFICIAL working a case, thus he has AUTHORITY to see it..... dumb, dumb, dumb, one. what "case"? the birther fairies vs the president of the United States of America? you people are fucking delusional. You have it wrong, it will be "We the People" of the USA vs. an alleged alien usurper if / when but with all the arse covering going on in advance, when is more likely than if. Actually since it's the office of POTUS, it will be an international event. um okay and when does this "case" start exactly? Ummm ask the American people? Ask your elected representatives? Ask yourself (I don't think you'd be posting here if you were all happy with the situation, you'd be out playing golf or something) ... not to me to answer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16546094 05/23/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16546094 Is that all you got - kindergarten grade insults, without any relevant argument whosoever? Birtherism seems to be nothing else but inane smearing campaign pleasing trailer trash that can’t get over the fact that a colored man is seating in the White House. I not impressed by Obama’s performance, but this endless stream of garbage made me sympathize with him; I hope he’ll win the next term - just in spite of Birthers. * You're a racist and a hater, you're assuming everyone who asks questions about all the inconsistences is "white" out to get a "colored". Well you're wrong, but thinking everyone who wants the truth is "white trailer trash" makes you a bigot and a racist. Oh and classist too. Truth hurts, right? Were you seeking for truth with the same scrutiny after McCain and Rmoney's credentials? Where they were born, again - especially McCain? Can you provide links to their BCs, please? Long form, of course. * McCain's whole issue was resolved. Literally. Two US citizen parents = Natural Born citizen. [link to www.opencongress.org] In which way Obama's issue wasn't resolved? Literaly? The credentials of the US president have to be verified before he takes the oath; any member of the Congress could’ve called objections – nobody did. Once sworn president can be lawfully removed from his office only by the elections or impeachment; read the Article 1 of the US Constitution. As a typically Birfoon you use any definition of NBC that comes handy for you. Hypocrite. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11048145 05/23/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i hope he gets to see it. and then when he does, the feds can give him a pair of pink panties and lock his fucking ass down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11048145 Ya, and talking against the president get you arrested too right? he likes putting others in pink. now he realizes that the same can happen to him. i call it about fair. now you all can give an exact description of what a chump looks like. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2507375 05/23/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking we'll soon see Sheriff Joe in the news sonn about something happening to him... He's barkin up that tree man... (the one in Harry Potter movies) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2507375 Sheriff Joe is protected by Devine intervention...make no mistake about it...he will succeed in taking down obozo... many are praying for the Father, Christ our Lord to intervene and save this nation from the corruption...Sheriff Joe is not alone in his plight...he is surrounded by powerful forces. ;) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542645 05/23/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Until they aren't. *We* decide how long we are gonna put up with this fucking trash.[/i] Greetings and goodwill I offer to my fellow A/C!! I'm ready to express my solidarity with and understanding of a general world view of repulsion and disgust towards the present world order, fouled up as it is, with 98% or so of common humanity living as dupes of the shadow government which exists as a parasite upon our species. Like you, I feel disgusted to the point of anger. It seems to me that antiwar attitudes and activity at the quietest, most low-key, person-to-person level are the best way of constructively channeling such feelings. If Democracy really worked, then the interests of the 98% would be more clearly evident. E.g. it never occurred to me as a child that I would live to see bottled water sold in shops, even water from Fiji.. but must hit the pit now.. Well for democracy to work, the people have to exercise their voice. Democracy doesn't work if people are apathetic and just don't care what happens to them. A petition with a statement and some requests would be a good start and then backed up with a peaceful peoples' march / movement / sit-in / sit-down until those who are your public servants respond to your requests as you will. Always reasonable and in peace! I guess another choice could be just ignoring the usurpers and taking back the republic, to restore your constitution. In the end it will be to the grassroots people to decide, not those who claim to rule. |
| Joe User ID: 4390498 05/23/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That arrogant bastard is wasting tax payer money on this? Maybe he should pack his gestapo uniform and tinfoil helmet and fund his own expedition to Hawaii! Maybe next year he can go in search of the Loch Ness monster. |
| Travis Bickle (OP) User ID: 1484907 05/23/2012 07:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "case" starts like any other... When the crime is discovered, or reported. Now, in THIS instance, conclusive "proof" cannot be established "beyond a reasonable suspicion" to warrant formal charges being filed. Until there is enough evidence to proceed, an investigation can continue. To answer an earlier question, Sheriff Joe suspects that a crime has occurred based on the analysis of the evidence at hand. (The Long Form that was presented as Proof of eligibility to be the POTUS). Many experts agree that there are phenomenal discrepancies which lead a person to question the legitimacy of the document. In-Fact, EVEN Alexandra Hill, an Attorney for the POTUS stated that the LFBC was "legally irrelevant" in the eligibility case in New Jersey, [link to www.southernstandard.com] in an effort to distance the administration from the document. This can be ended swiftly and succinctly if the records are unsealed and can be viewed. It would put definitive end to the argument so we could get on to more pressing issues like reviewing the President's Health Care Reform, or impeaching him. In either case, we would be moving in a FORWARD direction instead of stuck in a quagmire of misdirection. One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15692588 05/23/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sheriffs an idiot, who's had more than his fair share of being in the spotlight. Just like if a U.F.O landed on the whitehouse lawn & made a press conference you'd say it was a hologram or special effect of some kind. Those who don't want to believe, will never believe, enough with the fucking trolls. Pay them no mind & they'll go back into their caves. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11048145 05/23/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking we'll soon see Sheriff Joe in the news sonn about something happening to him... He's barkin up that tree man... (the one in Harry Potter movies) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2507375 Sheriff Joe is protected by Devine intervention...make no mistake about it...he will succeed in taking down obozo... many are praying for the Father, Christ our Lord to intervene and save this nation from the corruption...Sheriff Joe is not alone in his plight...he is surrounded by powerful forces. ;) but all power and authority comes from God. Joe's predicament was authorized by the Divine. that guy is screwed. he should have kept his mouth shut. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542645 05/23/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16542645 You're a racist and a hater, you're assuming everyone who asks questions about all the inconsistences is "white" out to get a "colored". Well you're wrong, but thinking everyone who wants the truth is "white trailer trash" makes you a bigot and a racist. Oh and classist too. Truth hurts, right? Were you seeking for truth with the same scrutiny after McCain and Rmoney's credentials? Where they were born, again - especially McCain? Can you provide links to their BCs, please? Long form, of course. * McCain's whole issue was resolved. Literally. Two US citizen parents = Natural Born citizen. [link to www.opencongress.org] In which way Obama's issue wasn't resolved? Literaly? The credentials of the US president have to be verified before he takes the oath; any member of the Congress could’ve called objections – nobody did. Once sworn president can be lawfully removed from his office only by the elections or impeachment; read the Article 1 of the US Constitution. As a typically Birfoon you use any definition of NBC that comes handy for you. Hypocrite. Shill or lazy birther-tard who didn't click on the link, eh? This wasn't about Obama (though he is mentioned) it was about McCain. Go read there for the US Congress definition of NBC. It takes (2) US citizen parents to make (1) US Natural born citizen. It takes two, baby. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10739403 05/23/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Joe allowed to leave the state while he is still being investigated for breaching the constitution, election fraud and misusing $100 million of taxpayers money, if only he could think of a smokescreen...... Quoting: SheldonCooper sure...joe is not under any indictment...hope he follows through and goes to Hawaii... i would remove Obama in a heartbeat just over the fraudulent forged bc obama posted on the official white house website...for me; i need no further evidence obama is hiding from the truth...if the Hawaii Secy of state refuses Joe the prove....then AZ should just remove obama....if obama wants to be on the ballot; then he best hop to it and provide a LEGAL Birth Certificate and if he can't...HE IS OFF THE BALLOT. sorry, i just don't play circus games. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1391353 05/23/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If uncle Barack hadn't won, you now would have a geriatric as president and a human clothes rack as vice... would you really want that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16547798 LOL and there would have been huge debate over McClain too... He was born on a military base out of country I think. Either way, both would have screwed this country over. We'd be in a heap of sh*t. Probably is best that OBAMAnation won.. he's waking a lot of people up to the plight of this degenerating nation. I guess you were napping but there was a huge debate, and guess who co-sponsored a resolution for McCain saying that two US citizen parents meant he was "Natural Born", a constitutional lawyer (? maybe not too sure about that), c'mon you'll never guess who it was ... [link to www.opencongress.org] There still would have been a huge debate if McCain won. Congress can pass anything they want but it doesn't mean it could hold up to the constitutional definition (what definition right?! lol). The definition of "natural born" wasn't established by the Constitution itself but the original intent of the law is the only definition that could withstand a constitutional test. Something SCOTUS hasn't directly answered. Obamanation isn't a constitutional lawyer. He gave that up. I doubt Obama could argue his way threw a wet paper bag in court... unless perhaps they had teleprompters inside. Probably why he gave it up... Strange thing giving up something you work so hard for and go to college for ... hmmm |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16074591 05/23/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking we'll soon see Sheriff Joe in the news sonn about something happening to him... He's barkin up that tree man... (the one in Harry Potter movies) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2507375 Sheriff Joe is protected by Devine intervention...make no mistake about it...he will succeed in taking down obozo... many are praying for the Father, Christ our Lord to intervene and save this nation from the corruption...Sheriff Joe is not alone in his plight...he is surrounded by powerful forces. ;) but all power and authority comes from God. Joe's predicament was authorized by the Divine. that guy is screwed. he should have kept his mouth shut. Your statement isn't very clear; God is Divine is He not? I am one who also believes Joe is surrounded by powerful forces that are acting on the prayers of believers in Christ. We are many and we know our prayers are very powerful. Now the satanists would say they are powerful, which is true....but they run and cringe at the very NAME of Jesus Christ. He won't be gone until the good Lord says it's his time. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9469607 05/23/2012 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm thinking we'll soon see Sheriff Joe in the news sonn about something happening to him... He's barkin up that tree man... (the one in Harry Potter movies) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2507375 Sheriff Joe is protected by Devine intervention...make no mistake about it...he will succeed in taking down obozo... ^^^^ THIS omg |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 14931439 05/23/2012 07:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet what Bennett got was a letter from some official in Hawaii saying "he was born here." It certainly doesn't seem as if Bennett got any more info than that. I thought Bennett was a good guy. I can't believe he gave in so quickly. I'm so glad that Sheriff Joe is out there. Hillary: What difference does it make? Carney: Benghazi happened a long time ago. Congressman Cummings: Death is a part of life. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington ![]() |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16535332 05/23/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You brood of snakes and vipers! Long ago did the LORD speak of those who would kill others claiming that they are "offering service to God! They do this because they know not the Father, nor Jesus The Christ! |