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The Jam Band Scene / Grateful Dead Cult

 
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05/23/2012 09:13 PM
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The Jam Band Scene / Grateful Dead Cult
Anyone else a fan of music festivals? And the modern day "hippie music" scene? I was, and still am to an extent, but its hard not to notice the cult-like aspects of the scene.

The jam scene serves as that final net of the occult music industry. When the people realize getting a record deal, or winning American Idol, or hoping for an expansive amount of success in the music industry, is a goal only attainable by those that sacrifice their artistic merits and creativity, they look for a way to still play out.

Us musicians, we thrive on a connection we hope to make with our audience - we hope to offer A) morals and lessons of life and/or B) entertainment that serves as an escape from the mundane. So a scene like the jam band scene seems ripe with opportunity: it's mostly home-grown, its populated with many, 'free-spirited' individuals. I'm not gonna lie, the casual sex with beautiful and open-minded women and the copious amounts of drug use are VERY alluring when you're a 'newbie' to the scene. But little by little, it seems to lose its worth...

You find out a large number of music festivals (and believe me, this is certainly not all of them...I've met amazing people in the scene on my travels) are nothing more than a smoke-screen for the promoters and bands to take part in MASSIVE drug deals behind the scenes.

In particular, the scene has quite a masonic stranglehold on it. Hell, Bob Weir, rhythm guitarist of the Grateful Dead (and now Furthur, of course) plays at BILDERBURG for Christs sake! All the members of the Grateful Dead are 33rd degree Masons. The Dead use Rosicrucian, masonic, and illuminati symbolism. I'm pretty sure the scene is, like 95% run by masons.

Discuss away.
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1) Members of the Grateful Dead and the Merry Pranksters have NUMEROUS ties to US intelligence organizations and mind control operations. Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter, and head Merry Prankster Ken Kesey (founder and promoter of the "acid tests" during the sixties, which served to "turn on" thousands of people to the CIA's mind control drug LSD) were both "volunteers" in the government's LSD "research" at Stanford University in the early sixties.

2) The Grateful Dead got their start as the "house band" for the Merry Pranksters' acid tests. "The Merry Pranksters" derived their name from a group of medeival satanists called the Merry pranksters. The motto of the modern-day merry pranksters was "Never trust a Prankster!". The Pranksters membership included LSD kingpin Owsley Stanley, British Intelligence agent and Whole Earth Catalog founder Stewart Brand, child-rapist Allen Ginsburg, and "Mountain Girl" aka Mrs. Jerry Garcia. The Pranksters were also great "friends" with everyone's favorite guys, The Hell's Angels. In other words, the freemason hell's angels were the "security" for the pranksters at their acid tests.

3) Despite being busted numerous times for drugs including cocaine, marijuana, heroin, and HUMONGOUS quantities of LSD, none of the band members ever seems to have done any real jail time. I know of many people with no prior record who were busted with as little as a seed or a joint of marijuana who did jail time. Is the Grateful Dead's "outlaw" persona simply a phony masonic con job? Despite being busted in 1969 with HUMONGOUS quantities of drugs, the Dead not only did NO JAIL TIME WHATSOEVER, but were able to travel freely out of the country for their famous 1972 European tour.

4) The Grateful Dead record covers and art work are LOADED with Freemason symbolism. First of all, the skulls and skeletons which are EVERYWHERE in association with this band. Somewhere on Freemasonry Watch, there is a description of the 33rd degree ceremony, which describes all the SKELETONS that are hung up around the "temple" during this ceremony. At many Dead shows, there were large skeletons hung up both inside and outside the venue.

The rose (and the rose with the skeleton) is another VERY common symbol associated with the Grateful Dead, and with freemasonry.

On numerous concert posters and album art work, the artist Rick Griffin chose to represent a giant flying eyeball with wings. The disconnected "all-seeing eye" is a well-known masonic symbol.

The main symbol/corporate logo most people know of the Grateful Dead is from a record called "Steal Your Face". This corporate logo consists of a representation of a skull, with a lightning bolt going through the middle of it, originally (and usually) in masonic red, white and blue colors. You can view this logo (sans the red white and blue) at dead.net - the official homepage of the Grateful Dead corporation. This could easily be interpreted as a symbol of Crowley's "spermo-gnosticism". (See the website "Christendom and Freemasonry's Use of the Phallus" (as linked to on this site in other places) to read about what a lightning bolt symbolizes for freemasons). Indeed, the original name for the album featuring this logo was "Skull F*ck". The title was rejected by Warner Bros executives however, and the Dead decided to call the record "Steal Your Face" instead. Note too that the Dead had NUMEROUS and important connections with Crowley's OTO. Were the Grateful Dead spermo-gnostic semen drinkers like Crowley's other disciples? Their corporate logo would certainly seem to suggest this."
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Most anything people do is somehow a business.
There is a lot of occultism associated with the music industry.
All of the top acts seem to have been related to the occult or used occult symbols especially in the 60s and 70s Led zeppelin, the dead, black sabbath, the list goes on and on depending on how deep you want to dig.
Historically even the old blues men like Robert Johnson are associated with hoodoo practice.
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You are entitled to your opinion but nothing you or anyone else says will ever turn me off The Dead or their music.
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Most anything people do is somehow a business.
There is a lot of occultism associated with the music industry.
All of the top acts seem to have been related to the occult or used occult symbols especially in the 60s and 70s Led zeppelin, the dead, black sabbath, the list goes on and on depending on how deep you want to dig.
Historically even the old blues men like Robert Johnson are associated with hoodoo practice.
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To some extent, I'm sure you need to at least acknowledge your indifference to the occult stranglehold of the music industry to be allowed substantial success. Like an unspoken rite of passage, if you will.

But my point of discussion is the way the jam scene acts as this final "net," to catch musicians (and the audience, free-spirited dissidents and activists), unwilling to "sell-out." It ensnares them into a scene of vices; these activists and dissidents embrace the scene for its free-spirited nature without even realizing the dark undertones, not even realizing they're just falling for another branch of the same system of occultism they're trying to avoid.
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You are entitled to your opinion but nothing you or anyone else says will ever turn me off The Dead or their music.
 Quoting: TDJ


I love the Grateful Dead! Jerry is a wizard on guitar, some of the best times of my life were on tour. (Unfortunately, I'm too young to have seen them play.) I'm not trying to convince anyone to stop listening to them.

And I still LOVE the scene; I love the atmosphere, the freedom, the embracing of the outdoors. Concerts that are weekend-long and filled with great discussions.

But in all the time I've spent in the scene, I've noticed it's very frowned upon to start discussing matters like the ones discussed on GLP, etc. They want people to remain subservient to the sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll aspect of the scene, without delving too far into how we can change the world in a positive way.

I played many festivals and gigs, and I was blacklisted by the GDF for speaking my mind and jokingly referring to the fanbase as a cult.
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So as a blacklisted musician of the "Jam band circuit," I thought it'd be an interesting discussion point for GLP.

Believe me, I still love the music and still go to a few festivals here and there. I know a large number of people in the scene; people that throw festivals, dozens of bands. Some of my best friends were met on lot, be it Furthur tour or the Dead tour in '09.

But there's also a dark side people in the scene REFUSE to acknowledge. I know this dark side personally, because they went after me. Not sure if you'd call it 'gang-stalking,' but if all the stuff that happened to me had some sort of synchronicity, it most certainly could be described that way.

One example...I book shows at a venue with a few friends. We have our own little company. I was encountered on Facebook to book a super jam. This jam featured members of many bands, including Rat Dog and former members of the Grateful Dead at the venue I book shows at. (Donna Jean was one of them...horrible vocals, and apparently a very horrible and bitchy person)

I was guaranteed an opening slot with my band. But being a blacklisted musician for saying too much, they dropped me off the bill at the last minute and stopped responding on Facebook. (They used me for my resources, than figured out my reputation on the scene as an outspoken individual.) They hired their own staff for the night; dozens of Freemasons, who were very condescending individuals. Donna Jean in particular had a horribly shitty attitude. They ended up STEALING OUR CUT OF THE NIGHT; the doorman they hired left an HOUR BEFORE THE SHOW ENDED, and the person who contacted me for the venue booking DELETED HIS FACEBOOK.

Hell, I don't even really feel safe posting this story with as many details as I have.
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You are a fucking dumbass. You don't even know anybody from the dead so how the fuck would you know if they were satanist. Ive furthur and bob weir acoustic trio they put out nothing but positive energy. There shows have changed my life.
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You know how many venues they've played at, I don't think Bobby or Phil even know. So i don't think any body from the dead would even need to steal one of your shows or your money

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