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Your Preachers Have Taught You That The MARK Is A Physical One...It's NOT

 
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I own a "Greek and Hebrew Lexicon and Dictionary" that's thicker than a phone book. I don't need to use the online tool that the OP provided.

Also, this has nothing to do with personalities. I do not know anything about the OP other than that I strongly disagree with her about this. I believe what she is teaching is dangerous.
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clappa
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No OP is teaching what Christ said, not some church traditional teaching.
I am sure if OP brought up the rapture, you would disagree that she OP would disagree with what you might think is the timing of the rapture.
See Paul tells it like it is too.

2 Thess. 2: 1,2,3,4,5,6,,7.

Knowing the Christ comes with 10k saints found in the book of Jude, and Satan comes with 7k wicked angels.
Then God has chosen 7000 in Romans 11:4 and foretold of even in the old testie, which you will find in 1 Kings 18:19.

So, since God had chosen 7000 to stand against BAAL (Symbolically meaning Satan), who should NOT understand Rev. 9:4 when God tells Satan and his angels, this.
Paraphrasing this in my words.
God telling Satan, You can go down and deceive all you wish, but touch not any of those that have the seal of God IN THEIR FOREHEAD.

The true Mark of the beast is not knowing the "hour" which He comes.
Christ told you all about "THAT HOUR" in Mark 13.
Read about those 7000 from the mouth of Christ teachings in Mark 13 verse's 9 to 12. And in verse 12 we see family members being "DELIVERED UP TO DEATH" and DEATH is Satan. Proof... Heb. 3:14. Our Lord has saved us from that hour by telling us the truth.
 Quoting: Little Star


Then again, it is best to discard all religion, and go DIRECT to your source, your own higher self/soul...

Religion is a deceptive play, as is most institutions on this planet...

A potent deception, no doubt, as it has many people caught up...But, that is the nature of control on this planet...

Confond everything with many different interpretations and languages... not only religion, government acts, laws, contracts, fine print, etc...

A person cannot come to accuracy through any written or spoken words on this planet...

You must go direct...
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The mark is the verichip!

No it's barcodes!

No it's WWW.

No it's Real ID!

No it's smart phones! You hold them in your hand and up to your head!!

No it's... just a very vague fable in a religious text written by a dude who was most likely very very high on something at the time.

Open to virtually infinite interpretations and usually it's whatever the latest commercial technology happens to be... buying and selling and all that.

IT'S YOUR WALLET!
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The whole chip/RFID is a distraction. It has NOTHING to do with the true mark. God is gonna be mad because you chose to be chipped? LOL.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I'm so sorry to correct you on this one ( I actually used to teach your same argument). The fact is that the MARK OF THE BEAST must be an actual physically manifested THING and not a symbolic representation. Why I say this is simple.
Revelation speaks of a NOISOME SORE that will appear upon those with the mark. That means some form of RADIO INTERFERENCE or RADIATION INTESIFICATION will affect those who have it. Whatever it is that causes this sore will be actual and physical. GOD Bless and don't get the Mark ma sis!!!
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
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Why? Are thinking about getting chipped?
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One thing i notice when it comes to things like the mark of the beast, rapture/no rapture,etc,etc.. is that the enemy loves to use these things to divide Christians. Be careful when you discuss things like this with other believers..because before you know it.. it can turn into a huge argument and like i said..cause division..its not how its suppose to be, its definitely not of God to argue with one another..and it puts up a bad example of what a christian is. Not saying its not good to point things out to each other and maybe come to some understanding with certain things like this thread is doing..its good to have discussion about things like this because we can learn from it..but being vigilant is really important.. the enemy will sneak up and turn Christians against each other in a heart beat..the enemy is not after the unbeliever, he already has them.

I am no saint myself..i am still learning to walk a good life but i am just pointing out something i see happen often with people that are suppose to be on the same team...

Peace
 Quoting: Cat Mouth


You nailed it right on the head.
Satan is dividing Christians and God is letting that happen to find out who will remain faithful.

Good posting.
 Quoting: Little Star


Satan and god are made up characters of this game...

The game needs both polarities to operate properly, as it is the nature of a person to gravitate to a polarity, then take up a sword to battle it's opposite polarity...

Many people have gone to war with this mindset, willingly dieing for their polaric view...
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I own a "Greek and Hebrew Lexicon and Dictionary" that's thicker than a phone book. I don't need to use the online tool that the OP provided.

Also, this has nothing to do with personalities. I do not know anything about the OP other than that I strongly disagree with her about this. I believe what she is teaching is dangerous.
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clappa
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No OP is teaching what Christ said, not some church traditional teaching.
I am sure if OP brought up the rapture, you would disagree that she OP would disagree with what you might think is the timing of the rapture.
See Paul tells it like it is too.

2 Thess. 2: 1,2,3,4,5,6,,7.

Knowing the Christ comes with 10k saints found in the book of Jude, and Satan comes with 7k wicked angels.
Then God has chosen 7000 in Romans 11:4 and foretold of even in the old testie, which you will find in 1 Kings 18:19.

So, since God had chosen 7000 to stand against BAAL (Symbolically meaning Satan), who should NOT understand Rev. 9:4 when God tells Satan and his angels, this.
Paraphrasing this in my words.
God telling Satan, You can go down and deceive all you wish, but touch not any of those that have the seal of God IN THEIR FOREHEAD.

The true Mark of the beast is not knowing the "hour" which He comes.
Christ told you all about "THAT HOUR" in Mark 13.
Read about those 7000 from the mouth of Christ teachings in Mark 13 verse's 9 to 12. And in verse 12 we see family members being "DELIVERED UP TO DEATH" and DEATH is Satan. Proof... Heb. 3:14. Our Lord has saved us from that hour by telling us the truth.
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Hi, Little Star! It's good to see you. I always find your posts to be very interesting.
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Thank you!
It is the Lords Word.

Christ points out how the mark is given and what is is, if we all would just read it.
Everyone should read Mat. 7:22 and 23.
(How does one work iniquity?) By false teaching and leading the whole world to bow down to Satan.
That is why Christ says what He is saying if verse 22.

What a sad day it will be when those who did not put the armor of God on, which is the Word, all of it.

There is more to the Word than most even know.

The Word has layer after layer of "Hidden manna". If Christ is that manna sent from Heaven, who do you think I should listen too, man or Christ and His teachings? We all will say Christ, or should say Christ if we be a Christian.

This is my task for the Lord, to open eyes to see, and only Christ can open eyes, so don't get me wrong.

You all would be surprised just how many pastors have never heard the word "Hebraism".
This I taught on glp so many times, but many just ignore it.

As I have shared before, you can all see for yourselves a Hebraism in 9:22 if you pay attention to that verse.
The "saw thy fathers nakeness" is explained in Lev. 18:8 and Lev. 20:11. The bible is laced with this type of wording.
Same thing with the Mark of the beast. Same method of finding the real truth about that mark.

It is a muti-layered meaning and that is why so many debate about "the Mark of the beast".

blessings and I appreciate you too.
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The whole chip/RFID is a distraction. It has NOTHING to do with the true mark. God is gonna be mad because you chose to be chipped? LOL.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


I'm so sorry to correct you on this one ( I actually used to teach your same argument). The fact is that the MARK OF THE BEAST must be an actual physically manifested THING and not a symbolic representation. Why I say this is simple.
Revelation speaks of a NOISOME SORE that will appear upon those with the mark. That means some form of RADIO INTERFERENCE or RADIATION INTESIFICATION will affect those who have it. Whatever it is that causes this sore will be actual and physical. GOD Bless and don't get the Mark ma sis!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 701098


First off tell me how many times in the Word did God have to use some instrument or devices from man to destroy something?

A Chip is a device an instrument.

God always used "nature" and I can assure you "nature" will be used again for those that receive the mark.

God is in control, not some man or some man made object.

Yes, radio frequency can be used against man and is being used today. We all see it.

But the end time noisome sore will be given by God himself.

If any of you have seen the video about the DNA frequency you would or could say that is the end time mark.
But it isn't.
I do worry about about that tech. knowing that is has and is being used against us today.

Look how congress is trying to pass a law for all peoples , 14 years old and above to have their DNA taken from them.

Why? OH they say for keeping records so we can find folks and etc. and etc. to protect us and etc and etc, all lies.
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Revelation 14
9A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.

Verse 12 literal translation
"Here is endurance of the saints: here are those keeping the commands of God, and the faith of Jesus."

This tells us that those who endure are those who are the overcomers of the mark, and they overcome by keeping God's commandments and the faith of Jesus. Hand and forehead, actions of obedience and worship faithfulness.

Revelation tells us that all are blessed who read and understand Revelation, yet believing that the "mark" is only an end time event is ignoring the millions of Christians throughout the past 2,000 years who I believe still had to overcome a mark.

I do agree with the OP, in that the beast is symbolic, the dragon is symbolic, the whore is symbolic - yet when it comes to the "mark", people believe that it's literal. Why? Because that is what all false 'teachers' are preaching, leading their flocks into a false safety and security. Let's face it, the vast majority of Christians are waiting for a literal mark the whole time that they are disobeying God's commands and worshipping idols - never knowing that they have the "mark". We are to overcome by studying, praying, and learning to be obedient - all growing our faith. The wolves in sheep's clothing are tearing apart the flocks by leading them astray.

Do I think that the beast will bring about a 'physical mark' - probably, because they are psychopaths and completely seethe against God and anyone who loves Him and keeps HIS mark. But again, unless the mark states "I worship Satan" or they force me to drop to my knees to worship some image, or break God's commands as I understand them, I have to trust God that He'll make me aware.
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One thing i notice when it comes to things like the mark of the beast, rapture/no rapture,etc,etc.. is that the enemy loves to use these things to divide Christians. Be careful when you discuss things like this with other believers..because before you know it.. it can turn into a huge argument and like i said..cause division..its not how its suppose to be, its definitely not of God to argue with one another..and it puts up a bad example of what a christian is. Not saying its not good to point things out to each other and maybe come to some understanding with certain things like this thread is doing..its good to have discussion about things like this because we can learn from it..but being vigilant is really important.. the enemy will sneak up and turn Christians against each other in a heart beat..the enemy is not after the unbeliever, he already has them.

I am no saint myself..i am still learning to walk a good life but i am just pointing out something i see happen often with people that are suppose to be on the same team...

Peace
 Quoting: Cat Mouth


You nailed it right on the head.
Satan is dividing Christians and God is letting that happen to find out who will remain faithful.

Good posting.
 Quoting: Little Star


Satan and god are made up characters of this game...

The game needs both polarities to operate properly, as it is the nature of a person to gravitate to a polarity, then take up a sword to battle it's opposite polarity...

Many people have gone to war with this mindset, willingly dieing for their polaric view...
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Psychology teachings do not move me.

I have seen it all and heard it all with the Political correct crowd.
Not trying to offend, but wisdom comes by one way only. And it is not from man, you can count on that.
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the healthcare bill states that starting next year they will start implementing the chip for healthcare reasons AND financial.

For all those who DON'T think this is the mark of the beast, go ahead and get in line to get chipped.

Let the rest of us know how it goes....
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Graduation from the galaxy, and on to new experiences, requires the breaking of many loops that keep you bound to the game...

Religion is a potent loop, and probably one of the hardest to break...

But, break it you must!!!

You have got to go direct, but you cannot do that, as long as you cling to the notion of any in game entity being superior to you own higher self/soul...

This is a school, an experiential learning ground where the bottom line of participation is experience...It is the polaric nature of the galaxy that creates the dynamics, making it very challenging...

But, in the end, there is no battle for your soul, your soul/higher self is eternal... It learns through the incarnation, and the incarnation may be allowed to go to the brink for the experience... But, your soul/higher self knows better...
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For those that ponder such issues as these, here's another heads-up.

In my area they are pushing the public to get a colonoscopy to the point of it being mediatory for everyone before 50 years of age. That's a huge leap from the past, of having one if you're over 50.

Did you know the drug they inject you with before the procedure leaves you completely coherent and able to carry on a conversation and with all body action/functions, save one? No memory of it what-so-ever. Yeppers, that's a fact!

I suspect that I was chipped then, and everyone else was and or is being chipped at time of that procedure, with-out anyone ever knowing it.

For what it's worth, take it or leave it, but you might want to give that some thought eh!

Strange daze Indeed!

This place where we live, you know, Planet Earth, it's a very strange place to live eh!


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Revelation 14
9A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, 10he, too, will drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name.” 12This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.

Verse 12 literal translation
"Here is endurance of the saints: here are those keeping the commands of God, and the faith of Jesus."

This tells us that those who endure are those who are the overcomers of the mark, and they overcome by keeping God's commandments and the faith of Jesus. Hand and forehead, actions of obedience and worship faithfulness.

Revelation tells us that all are blessed who read and understand Revelation, yet believing that the "mark" is only an end time event is ignoring the millions of Christians throughout the past 2,000 years who I believe still had to overcome a mark.

I do agree with the OP, in that the beast is symbolic, the dragon is symbolic, the whore is symbolic - yet when it comes to the "mark", people believe that it's literal. Why? Because that is what all false 'teachers' are preaching, leading their flocks into a false safety and security. Let's face it, the vast majority of Christians are waiting for a literal mark the whole time that they are disobeying God's commands and worshipping idols - never knowing that they have the "mark". We are to overcome by studying, praying, and learning to be obedient - all growing our faith. The wolves in sheep's clothing are tearing apart the flocks by leading them astray.

Do I think that the beast will bring about a 'physical mark' - probably, because they are psychopaths and completely seethe against God and anyone who loves Him and keeps HIS mark. But again, unless the mark states "I worship Satan" or they force me to drop to my knees to worship some image, or break God's commands as I understand them, I have to trust God that He'll make me aware.
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Good post!
Yes, Baal worship and that is why I presented Romans 11:4. That is a major key for anyone who wants the truth.

There will be a falling away. And that falling away happens in the "hour of temptation".
(2 Thess. 2:3) Two things there. Falling away, (running towards Satan, thinking he is Jesus. (also, mis-teachings)
Notice too, that the "Man of sin" shall be revealed, that son of perdition.
Again, there is only one character in the whole bible that has been judged already. No other character in the bible has been judged yet.
So Satan, that son of perdition is that character that has been judged already.
How so?
In the first earth age, when Satan had drawn a third of the stars "angels, US, WE". I am a little star that will not waver from what is written.

When Satan did try to take the thrown, 1/3 of us went with Satan. One third did not care at all one way or another. (By the way, those people who do not care, are the same in the first earth age. They will not care this time either.)

1/3 stood with God but it only took 7000 of us to go get Satan along with Michael to bring Satan in front of the thrown of God.
God was going to destroy 2/3's of us all, but we who remained faithful at that time , pleated for those who went astray.
So God only judge Satan at that time. He is the son (son, like we are today the son's and daughters who shall prophecy in the latter days.)We are the sons of God from the beginning.
So, after that , God destroyed this whole planet which was the Katabole.
All the water from around the world fell all at once leaving a small mass of land, which many today are finding out about it.
That land mass separated and that is why we see dino's in all lands because the mass of land was together after the Katabole.
Then God said "Let us make man in our image" in the book of Gen. And so began the new age, (the age we are in) and that is why we see in Gen. 1:28 the words " replenish the earth".
Gen. 1:2 the word "void" is tohu va bohu. Learn it for all to learn it.

We have the same spiritual body with our flesh body as the first earth age.
And when you go to paradise, you will STILL have the same spiritual body. This is NOT reincarnation, because reincarnation teaching is that you live over and over and over for eternity.
So we need to ask ourselves who we are in our relationship with God.
Are we as individuals the same ones that followed Satan, or did not care, or did stand against Satan in the first earth age.
And for all of you who don't like this or understand, explain to us why Gods loves Mt. Zion above all land on the earth?

I will tell ya, cuz we are from that first earth age and God sat on His thrown on Mt. Zion. At that time the earth was perfect, not storms, no hurricanes, not bad weather.
Our bible tells us all of this, but "it is layered" and only those that will not bow to Satan will learn and receive the latter day sealing.
Sorry folks, I have the tendency to throw an anchor out when I teach instead of a hook.

It is getting really late in this hour, and some Christians need to start to get cracking into the Word and learn of these things so you do not receive the Mark of the Beast.
blessings
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"IEEE has a dual complementary regional and technical structure - with organizational units based on geography and technical focus. It manages a separate organizational unit (IEEE-USA) which recommends policies and implements programs specifically intended to benefit the members, the profession and the public in the United States.

IEEE is organized into:

333 local sections in 10 geographic regions;
more than 2,080 chapters comprised of local members with similar technical interests;
38 societies and 7 technical councils that compose 10 technical divisions;
nearly 2000 student branches at colleges and universities in 80 countries;
more than 530 student branch chapters."

[link to www.ieee.org]

"And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems upon its horns and blasphemous name upon its heads." (Rev. 13:1,RSV,1952)

Just a coincedence?

"We present a wearable health system (WHS) for non-invasive and wireless monitoring of physiological signals. The system is made as an electronic patch where sensors, low power electronics, and radio communication are integrated in an adhesive material of hydrocolloid polymer making it a sticking patch. The patch is made with a reusable part and a disposable part which contains the adhesive material and the battery. This part is changed once every week. The patch has a size of 88 mm by 60 mm and a thickness of 5 mm. It is made for attachment on truncus or the greater muscle groups. The patch is demonstrated in two applications: Monitoring of electromyography (EMG) and arterial oxygen saturation by pulse oximetry (SpO2). The pulse oximetry sensor is made of a concentric backside Silicon photodiode with a hole in the middle for the two light sources. This makes it suitable for reflectance pulse oximetry. For the EMG application three standard dry silver electrodes are used separated by 10 mm."

[link to ieeexplore.ieee.org]

"...it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave to be marked on the right hand or the forehead..." (Rev. 13:16,RSV,1952)

Just another coincedence?

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One thing i notice when it comes to things like the mark of the beast, rapture/no rapture,etc,etc.. is that the enemy loves to use these things to divide Christians. Be careful when you discuss things like this with other believers..because before you know it.. it can turn into a huge argument and like i said..cause division..its not how its suppose to be, its definitely not of God to argue with one another..and it puts up a bad example of what a christian is. Not saying its not good to point things out to each other and maybe come to some understanding with certain things like this thread is doing..its good to have discussion about things like this because we can learn from it..but being vigilant is really important.. the enemy will sneak up and turn Christians against each other in a heart beat..the enemy is not after the unbeliever, he already has them.

I am no saint myself..i am still learning to walk a good life but i am just pointing out something i see happen often with people that are suppose to be on the same team...

Peace
 Quoting: Cat Mouth


You nailed it right on the head.
Satan is dividing Christians and God is letting that happen to find out who will remain faithful.

Good posting.
 Quoting: Little Star


Satan and god are made up characters of this game...

The game needs both polarities to operate properly, as it is the nature of a person to gravitate to a polarity, then take up a sword to battle it's opposite polarity...

Many people have gone to war with this mindset, willingly dieing for their polaric view...
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Psychology teachings do not move me.

I have seen it all and heard it all with the Political correct crowd.
Not trying to offend, but wisdom comes by one way only. And it is not from man, you can count on that.
 Quoting: Little Star


And, I agree with that... The incarnation is limited, and receives the information it needs from the higher self...

Your higher self is not limited...It has the vast store of experiences from all the roles/incarnations it has been in the game... Wisdom comes from doing/experiencing...

The only question is - how do you fit into the current plan???...
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the healthcare bill states that starting next year they will start implementing the chip for healthcare reasons AND financial.

For all those who DON'T think this is the mark of the beast, go ahead and get in line to get chipped.

Let the rest of us know how it goes....
 Quoting: AmazingGRACE


Sis, do you really think that any Christian will take that chip easily?
You can't fool people who know the Word that taking a chip is good.

I am a bar code expert because of me working in that field for many years.
I know many in the past thought the bar code was the mark.

Why? Cuz it has 666 in each bar code. Well that is not quite correct.

There were 24 standards set up in the beginning in the bar code industry.
Now, many companies like Cat. use the bar code for tracking and since I was apart of that for over 18 years,I know it does not have 666 in their bar code system.
Yes, the UPC code can and does have 3 6's in it. All it is for is what is called a "stop bit". Without a stop bit, no bar code reader can read it, because it would not know when to start or stop.

There is the UPC code, AIAG (auto industry)Logmars (US GOVIE), HIBC (hospital and pharmacy companies) and the list goes on and on. Each one of them have their own style and way of tracking a bar code product.

Same thing with the chip. I can defeat that chip knowing electronics.
There are many techs that I have talked with that know what I know about electronics. And we all agree, we can defeat those chips easily.
Again, a huge anchor. lol
blessings

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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Its "ALL" Spiritual?
Christ rose from grave in physical manor.
Moses literally turned water into blood.
and Satan will rise from a fatal wound once he is in a physical body.

Im not arguing that the mark my be a spiritual mark.

But please be careful thinking its ALL just spiritual or symbolic...

Peace in Christ.
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Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
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Of course the Bible doesnt say the mark is going to be a chip or what not. A mark is a mark and no one knows what is it going to be. But to discount that it could be the chip, it's a lil misleading. Just saying
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For those that ponder such issues as these, here's another heads-up.

In my area they are pushing the public to get a colonoscopy to the point of it being mediatory for everyone before 50 years of age. That's a huge leap from the past, of having one if you're over 50.

Did you know the drug they inject you with before the procedure leaves you completely coherent and able to carry on a conversation and with all body action/functions, save one? No memory of it what-so-ever. Yeppers, that's a fact!

I suspect that I was chipped then, and everyone else was and or is being chipped at time of that procedure, with-out anyone ever knowing it.

For what it's worth, take it or leave it, but you might want to give that some thought eh!

Strange daze Indeed!

This place where we live, you know, Planet Earth, it's a very strange place to live eh!


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Go take a trip by plane, and with the TSA equipment, they will pull you out of the line very quick if you have a chip within your body.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
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Its "ALL" Spiritual?
Christ rose from grave in physical manor.
Moses literally turned water into blood.
and Satan will rise from a fatal wound once he is in a physical body.

Im not arguing that the mark my be a spiritual mark.

But please be careful thinking its ALL just spiritual or symbolic...

Peace in Christ.
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Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Of course the Bible doesnt say the mark is going to be a chip or what not. A mark is a mark and no one knows what is it going to be. But to discount that it could be the chip, it's a lil misleading. Just saying
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And to say it is this or that can be very distracting from things that are far more important... just saying.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

Isn't that pretty fucking evil of God, to cloak the truth by using obscure meanings and subtle wordplay, where he actually means the opposite of what he clearly said, so that the majority of the people will be too dumb to be saved?!

That's why it's so stupid when Christians say you can simply choose to be saved and it isn't about how good you are.

It's a freaking test, to see who can discern all the bizarre meanings and who can just intuitively "know" when one passage is literal and when another is just an allegory.

If God loves everyone and wants to save them (which is false, if you actually read the Bible, he hated lots of people and actively forced them to rebel, like when he hardened pharaoh's heart), why would he actively make his word confusing, contradictory, so that for thousands of years, people could fight and fight, sometimes to the death, over just how to interpret it all?


Sense made: none.
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Go take a trip by plane, and with the TSA equipment, they will pull you out of the line very quick if you have a chip within your body.
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No thanks. Can you suggest I find out for sure one way or the other, any other way?

Thanks,

cool2
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How can anyone discover if they have a chip in them?
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I will repeat this one more time...


Satan will come at the end of April or the beginning of May.

So, as REv. 9:5 and 9:10 states, there is only going to be a 5 month period for Satan to be here.


If we look at is written in Colossians 2:8..
What philosophy should I follow? Surely not after the Philosophers Stone... lol

Mens traditions make void the Word of God.
That is why I say, "listen to Jesus only, He leads you to all truths."

So, if Satan is going to be here for 5 months, how can we avoid the mark? Buy staying home and having 5 to 6 months of food. (Hint also,, one day worth of food for angels). lol

Just putting that out for a bit of info.

The mark of the beast IS muti-layered.

I will not share this on any open forum... Pearls are just that.
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Go take a trip by plane, and with the TSA equipment, they will pull you out of the line very quick if you have a chip within your body.
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No thanks. Can you suggest I find out for sure one way or the other, any other way?

Thanks,

cool2
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lol
Cool.

Yea, asked someone who has instruments that can measure frequency.
Cuz a chip does have that ..... frequency.

hf
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Its "ALL" Spiritual?
Christ rose from grave in physical manor.
Moses literally turned water into blood.
and Satan will rise from a fatal wound once he is in a physical body.

Im not arguing that the mark my be a spiritual mark.

But please be careful thinking its ALL just spiritual or symbolic...

Peace in Christ.
 Quoting: JoshuaShanholtz


Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Of course the Bible doesnt say the mark is going to be a chip or what not. A mark is a mark and no one knows what is it going to be. But to discount that it could be the chip, it's a lil misleading. Just saying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16609571


And to say it is this or that can be very distracting from things that are far more important... just saying.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're contradicting yourself. You're following the same argument. Why don't you concentrate on far more important things? Just saying.
I'm just saying, my salvation is far more important, and every individual is responsible for their own. It's also our responsibility as Christian to teach those who are ignorant to the teachings of God. No pun intended. I just think the OP is walking on dangerous grounds to suggest the mark is a spiritual mean and not physical. Nobody is going to know for sure until the moment is here.
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Damn, have y'all even read the Bible? It's all spiritual. The mark on the forehead represents the mind, the right hand represents your actions.

Stop listening to your pastors/preachers and study for yourselves.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

Isn't that pretty fucking evil of God, to cloak the truth by using obscure meanings and subtle wordplay, where he actually means the opposite of what he clearly said, so that the majority of the people will be too dumb to be saved?!

That's why it's so stupid when Christians say you can simply choose to be saved and it isn't about how good you are.

It's a freaking test, to see who can discern all the bizarre meanings and who can just intuitively "know" when one passage is literal and when another is just an allegory.

If God loves everyone and wants to save them (which is false, if you actually read the Bible, he hated lots of people and actively forced them to rebel, like when he hardened pharaoh's heart), why would he actively make his word confusing, contradictory, so that for thousands of years, people could fight and fight, sometimes to the death, over just how to interpret it all?


Sense made: none.
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God does not hate people. Even tho God says "Jacob I love but Essau I hated".
Why? Cuz Essau wold not except his earthly inheritance.
Nor would Essau except God in the first earth age.

God says "I hated Essau before I put him in his mothers womb."

I wonder how God knew all about Essau?
From the first earth age...

God has a plan, the latter day sealing keeps you from the "hour of temptation" (the grand deception)by knowing the order of events and the "whole plan of God" from start to finish.
I tell others on here I can tell who has the latter day sealing and who has not by the words that come out of their mouth.
All, who have the latter day sealing can do this, not just me.
Right now I know of over 3 million that have received the latter day sealing, and I have never met them. So I didn't seal them, but God does.

I hope this helps a bit.
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Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Of course the Bible doesnt say the mark is going to be a chip or what not. A mark is a mark and no one knows what is it going to be. But to discount that it could be the chip, it's a lil misleading. Just saying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16609571


And to say it is this or that can be very distracting from things that are far more important... just saying.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're contradicting yourself. You're following the same argument. Why don't you concentrate on far more important things? Just saying.
I'm just saying, my salvation is far more important, and every individual is responsible for their own. It's also our responsibility as Christian to teach those who are ignorant to the teachings of God. No pun intended. I just think the OP is walking on dangerous grounds to suggest the mark is a spiritual mean and not physical. Nobody is going to know for sure until the moment is here.
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I can't wait to hear how I'm contradicting myself, since the above is the only post I've made on this thread.

Just saying.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Like I said...it IS indeed spiritual. Read the texts in Hebrew and Greek. It has nothing and I mean NOTHING to do with a chip, social security card, ID, etc.

That is false teaching.

Explain to me why God would be upset that we choose to have an implant??
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


Of course the Bible doesnt say the mark is going to be a chip or what not. A mark is a mark and no one knows what is it going to be. But to discount that it could be the chip, it's a lil misleading. Just saying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16609571


And to say it is this or that can be very distracting from things that are far more important... just saying.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're contradicting yourself. You're following the same argument. Why don't you concentrate on far more important things? Just saying.
I'm just saying, my salvation is far more important, and every individual is responsible for their own. It's also our responsibility as Christian to teach those who are ignorant to the teachings of God. No pun intended. I just think the OP is walking on dangerous grounds to suggest the mark is a spiritual mean and not physical. Nobody is going to know for sure until the moment is here.
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Just remember this day and the conversation on this thread.

Then you will not be deceived.
I have more to say, but will stop there.
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Of course the Bible doesnt say the mark is going to be a chip or what not. A mark is a mark and no one knows what is it going to be. But to discount that it could be the chip, it's a lil misleading. Just saying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16609571


And to say it is this or that can be very distracting from things that are far more important... just saying.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're contradicting yourself. You're following the same argument. Why don't you concentrate on far more important things? Just saying.
I'm just saying, my salvation is far more important, and every individual is responsible for their own. It's also our responsibility as Christian to teach those who are ignorant to the teachings of God. No pun intended. I just think the OP is walking on dangerous grounds to suggest the mark is a spiritual mean and not physical. Nobody is going to know for sure until the moment is here.
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I can't wait to hear how I'm contradicting myself, since the above is the only post I've made on this thread.

Just saying.
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I believe that was suppose to go to OP, not you.
blessings
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I will repeat this one more time...


Satan will come at the end of April or the beginning of May.

So, as REv. 9:5 and 9:10 states, there is only going to be a 5 month period for Satan to be here.


If we look at is written in Colossians 2:8..
What philosophy should I follow? Surely not after the Philosophers Stone... lol

Mens traditions make void the Word of God.
That is why I say, "listen to Jesus only, He leads you to all truths."

So, if Satan is going to be here for 5 months, how can we avoid the mark? Buy staying home and having 5 to 6 months of food. (Hint also,, one day worth of food for angels). lol

Just putting that out for a bit of info.

The mark of the beast IS muti-layered.

I will not share this on any open forum... Pearls are just that.
 Quoting: Little Star


OK Little Star, you are very locked into your mindset...

But, I can tell you - what the covert controllers had planned for this planet, will occur to a certain degree...

But, there is a much higher purpose for this planet...

Something, the covert controllers cannot circumvent...

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