Your Preachers Have Taught You That The MARK Is A Physical One...It's NOT

fact is, the illuminati are behind the bible.

i.e. the moneychangers/international bankers, now the elite.

they have one thing they care about: controlling the currency.

the rest is just smoke and mirrors.

this is reflected in the new testament.

lots of astrotheology, lots elaboration, animation and authoritiarianism backed by gibberish and false presumptions....

but the ultimate subliminal message is this:

disrupt the operations of the moneychnagers, die a horrible death.

jesus died for YOU.... because your not stupid enough to oppose the moneychangers.

of course, this is not a very good basis for an indoctrination, so they have to all sorts of bullshit intertwined with it.

This is why the bible is "approved" by the elite, and readiliy available whenever you want... ths alone tells you there is something wrong with it.

Back to the dog pound I go?

Nah, think I'll pass on that one too.

It's not a worthy cause, ntm futile. After-all, what would I do then, if I found a chip in me?

Take off my tin-foil hat and stand under the Sun praying for a EMP to fry it?

They already think I'm whacked, I don't wanna leave em with-out doubt don't/cha know!

You must not be too bright up there. You're telling me the argument is distracting from the far more important things. Then what are you doing besides distracting from the more important things? You're following the same arguments but concentrating on other things. Goodness

Oh, I just had to add this.
You say God hates so many people in the bible. True, but who are they, and Why?

The bible interprets itself. And I teach people how to see how the bible interprets itself.
Man interprets the bible and that is wrong.
The bible does not need some man to interpret itself.
How so?
2 Cor. 13:1, got a bible read it. That is the beginning of how to rightly divide the Word.
We need two or more "verse's today" to confirm the Word.

There is metaphors, Hebraism, figures of speech, idioms, symbolics, acrostics and on and on.
Learn them, and the bible will open like a beautiful flower.
So, which 1/3 would you be from the beginning? REad above my postings if you do not understand the question.

Nice chatting with ya.

I'm interested to know more.

Oh, I do and have gone to the direct source. I mean many here know me well enough to know that I claimed to passover to paradise in 1993, last day of the year. In other words, I died.
It does not get any closer than that. And I got baptized Jan. 9th 1994.
Why?
Cuz I walked with angels helping me to help others.

But you can take that as a grain of salt or anything you wish.
I have studied with the Rosicrucian doctrine, and higher self will get you into trouble. I mean after learning the Word, I know how "self" from Satan started, that great pride without God in the equation.

Not trying to offend you, so please understand, I have studied much. Won't you if you crossed over?

NOw that is funny! lol

Thanks for making me laugh.
blessings

Yep that is how it starts with me. I start teaching and opening up the Word so everyone can understand it. No pride there on that.
I have stood for over 6 hours teaching. That is my record so far in some church. lol
They could not get enough. lol

I know your feelings on this, and Amos 8:11 has been fulfilled.
I try to drive people in the Word and help them get a handle of what I posted about about Hebraism and etc.
Once I do that, then I get to back away until a question comes at me. That way, I am NOT involved with the people learning and their relationship with Christ. I don't want to be a go between anyone and Christ, when it comes to learning.

For those who don't understand why God has written the Word this way( complexed and hidden info, it is because of the enemy.)

"Works of your hands" is real important to learn what the mark is and how it is going to be placed...

blessings

Which controllers are you talking about?
I know what the Word says will be the end time controllers.

Tell me who are the controllers, maybe you can help me. lol

There is only ONE prophecy given by God for those controllers and God Himself will take them out.

Ever read that in the Word?

OP, hang tough and keep the faith.

Makes sense! Great thread

Do you know the elite don't know anything about the bible?
They don't.
I know of Kenite's and how they rule.

The key to the end times as to whom will fall is written in Deut. 32 all of it.

Those who are Jeshurun's or are like Jeshurun will fall.

Deut. 32:15.....
And this is why Amos 8:11 comes about.

Jeshurun did not want to learn what God has said for us to do.

I know exactly where you went!!!

Your higher self will never lead you astray... You will do what your higher self needs you to do...

In order to fully comprehend an experiential loop, you need to be fully immersed in it...The experience cannot be gained by being on the sidelines...

This means, the higher self needs incarnations that are fully immersed in many loops...

If you truly went direct, you would have been inside your higher self, that you only went to an astral belief territory, is significant in understanding the purpose of your role at this time...

This is a special planet, it is playing host to the simultaneous path, meaning the higher self projects multiple spirit streams simultaneously in a HUGE variety of situations...Religion being a potent loop on this planet, reqiures many incarnations to fully comprehend it and break the loop...

The information you have gained is passed on to other incarnations, that are designated to handle it, and break the loop...

The simultaneous experience is the path to balance, and graduation...The covert rulers of this planet are NOT on this path... They are ancient players in this game, they wish to remain in the game, and subject everyone to their rule... Religion is a powerful tool for this, and they have allies in your so-called heaven...

You are not aware of this, because you need to be where you are in the overall plan...

My personal thoughts are...

1) it is physical - just like Cain was marked in Genesis 4:13-16

Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence;I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

But the Lord said to him, “Not so; anyone who kills Cain(Y) will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

I think it is physical, but it could be "internal" such as a vaccine/chip. I guess they could put a physical mark on those that accept the vaccine/chip/whatever.

2) The current thought is that the mark is an RFID chip of some sort. That MAY be right - but only if it can also change your DNA.

Sooner or later, whether it be offered by scientists or aliens - it doesn't matter, you will be offered gene therapy that will allow you to live hundreds or thousands of years or even forever (or so they will say). All you have to do is have this alter your DNA.

I think this will be the mark.

You will be able to choose this of your own free will, and, of course, most people will bite on it.

It comes down to the ultimate choice.

Do you trust God for eternal life, or man/science/whoever?

You are made in the IMAGE of God - this will change your DNA image.

It's easy to say don't take this, but imagine the faith and willpower it will take to NOT accept something that is presented to you as a way to live "forever".

How does that effect buying and selling? If it is a "healing/cleansing of the DNA", like vaccinations, they can easily say that those who don't get it are a public health risk and can not be allowed to interact/buy/sell til they agree to take the mark.

This would also fit with Rev 9:6:

During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

Sure, you can "live forever"...but is that REALLY what you want? :)

Edit: to those that claim it's your SSN or birth certificate or some such thing. That CAN'T be it. Newborns don't get to choose getting one or not. So they are forever taken away from God for something they had absolutely nothing to do with? Does that make sense?

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The prime controllers on this planet are from the orion star system... Ancient galaxy game players who have been here since this galaxy came into existence...

They know very well the mechanisms that are needed to control a planet...

God will take them out!!! You have much to learn about the nature of this game...The galaxy game creators will take no one out...

You must do that yourself...

HERE is the 'warning' of getting the MARK of the beast:

"A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand,

he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.

And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."

This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus."

Revelation 14:9-12

Why do you think that the mark is only an end time event? What about the past 2,000 years at the very least? God seeks those who seek Him, and those that overcome the Earth and the beast. If understanding Revelation was to be a blessing for those who study it, why do we ignore nearly 2,000 years of our fellow Christians and their struggles and testings? We know that the Earth Beast is the false prophet, and it has two horns like a lamb yet speaks like a dragon. How about all those Christian pastors NOT telling their flocks to obey God's commands? Or NOT confronting the immorality within their congregations? Or having people worship and bow down to them? Sure sounds like a Christian pastor speaking like the dragon to me. Are these not getting people to take the mark everyday?

Fact is - the illuminati/zionists are front men for the true controllers, the orion empire...

They are god's chosen people, because this god is an alien controller who has appointed surrogates/lackeys to administer the control system on this planet...

The credit/debt system is an orion invention of control...It exists on many planets under their control...

The various bibles are the blueprints for this control method, masquerading as spiritual truth...Those that know, interpret and implement these instructions... The rest are left in bewilderment, a maze...

A prime control method - confound everything, create many filters to keep them away from their own source...

If I have much to learn, then enlighten me. I am always open to what people think and believe.
But that will not change me one bit. lol

What book, stone, or other method of info have you pulled this from?
I am curious.

I already know - it will not change you...

If you comprehend what I have said, then you know your position cannot be changed, you need to be where you are...

However, others may be sparked by what I am putting across...

I can change, and I do daily. lol
But what I was asking for is to enlighten me.
Help me with your understanding.
Thanks

As I have told you before, I get what I need for my path...

Well I tested your water of truth, but nothing sprang up... lol

Thanks for the chat.

Change is always good, spiritual growth can never be wrong...

Enlighten you how???

It would take many years of discussion, and if you do not have most of it by now, then you are not supposed to...

But, at some point you will - guaranteed!!!

Spiritual progression is eternal, no rush, you have eternity...

OK, carry on...

'TO SERVE MAN'...

ITS A COOKBOOK.

The mark is a spiritual one . Look at the comparisons . The mark of the Beast is in fact Lawlessness . There is only one Law and that is the Law of Moses .

"And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt." Exodus 13:9

“If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath.” Revelation 14:9,10

“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17

That is a prime purpose for this planet, in the eyes of the orion...

But, this planet serves a greater purpose... That of spiritual growth...No where in the galaxy does the diversity of experience, that this planet offers, exists...

The body is only a temporary tool - the experiences gained are permanent...