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Cop Fired For Speeding 143 MPH While Drunk Gets Job Back

 
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Cop Fired For Speeding 143 MPH While Drunk Gets Job Back
Manager Of Safety Fighting Decision To Overturn Firing Of Derrick Saunders
Written By Kim Ngan Nguyen, Web Editor

POSTED: 6:03 pm MDT May 22, 2012
UPDATED: 6:21 pm MDT May 22, 2012


DENVER -- The Civil Service Commission has overturned a decision to fire a Denver cop who admitted to speeding while intoxicated. It is a decision Denver's manager of safety is fighting to overturn.

Officer Derrick Saunders was sentenced to five days in jail after pleading guilty to charges he was drunk and driving 143 mph in a 55 mph zone on June 17, 2010.

The manager of safety fired Saunders last December. Saunders appealed, arguing his termination was unfair and excessive.

Now a panel of hearing officers is saying the drinking and speeding didn't warrant termination, which the manager of safety disagrees with.

Manager of Safety Alex Martinez said the decision to overturn Saunders' dismissal "deprives the manager of the authority to impose reasonable discipline and disrespects the efforts of the many honorable law-abiding Denver police officers to maintain high standards of professionalism."

"We would never hire someone as a law enforcement officer who had engaged in this behavior and should not be required by hearing officers to continue to employ someone as an officer with this proven criminal conduct, " Martinez added.

Saunders' termination was overruled based on "discretion and precedence."

The Civil Service Commission said the Denver manager of safety "failed to prove any extraordinary aggravation" and "also failed to consider (Saunders') mitigating factors."

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to be fair, driving drunk at 143 mph seems pretty difficult, this guy clearly has skills.

i get nervous when i'm driving over 80, then again my car is a p.o.s. and starts to rattle uncontrollably
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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
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to be fair, driving drunk at 143 mph seems pretty difficult, this guy clearly has skills.

i get nervous when i'm driving over 80, then again my car is a p.o.s. and starts to rattle uncontrollably
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^this couldn't be more true, quick somebody give nascar a call.
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that would be reckless driving (a felony) for anyone else
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You gotta love the hypocrisy.... or you hate america 0_0



I'm sick of Cops getting a slap on the wrist for these kinds of behaivors, and when people who are sane enough to speak up about these travesty, they are shouted down for hating America, being a criminal, a hoodlum, a drug dealer, or worse yet.... a hippie
:/
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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


actually its not a cop bashing thread. its a thread that is pointing out the fact that civilians are the ones being bashed. how could a man that is supposed to uphold the law and set the example commit such a dangerous act and then be forgiven? he should be punished 5x more than a civilian and never ever be considered to have his job back as a LAW ENFORCER! if i was to recieve a dui i would lose my job no questions asked and never be eligible for re hire. THIS IS CORRUPTION!


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Cops have qualified immunity -- it's necessary for them to do their jobs and it's childish to compare this situation to what would happen to a civilian in a similar situation.

He wasn't even on duty at the time as far as I know. Would you lose your job over a traffic ticket you got while on your own time? I think not.
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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


actually its not a cop bashing thread. its a thread that is pointing out the fact that civilians are the ones being bashed. how could a man that is supposed to uphold the law and set the example commit such a dangerous act and then be forgiven? he should be punished 5x more than a civilian and never ever be considered to have his job back as a LAW ENFORCER! if i was to recieve a dui i would lose my job no questions asked and never be eligible for re hire. THIS IS CORRUPTION!


bushfing
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and another thing is when has a cop ever saved you or me or any of us? in my town when there are shootings usually no one is caught and the cops take hours to get there. its rare someone is convicted of murders if they do its years later. they are more focused on writing tickets than saving your sorry ass. all you need is cold steel not some corrupt cop!hunter
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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


actually its not a cop bashing thread. its a thread that is pointing out the fact that civilians are the ones being bashed. how could a man that is supposed to uphold the law and set the example commit such a dangerous act and then be forgiven? he should be punished 5x more than a civilian and never ever be considered to have his job back as a LAW ENFORCER! if i was to recieve a dui i would lose my job no questions asked and never be eligible for re hire. THIS IS CORRUPTION!


bushfing
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and another thing is when has a cop ever saved you or me or any of us? in my town when there are shootings usually no one is caught and the cops take hours to get there. its rare someone is convicted of murders if they do its years later. they are more focused on writing tickets than saving your sorry ass. all you need is cold steel not some corrupt cop!hunter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13547815


Never call the police. If it's a situation where lethal force is required to solve the problem then grow a pair and do it your self. If it's one of those neighbor tattle tell situations then stop being a douche and handle the situation like a man.
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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


Never had one save my ass or a friends. Anytime they are needed they show up with their thumbs up their asses doing nothing.
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that would be reckless driving (a felony) for anyone else
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Don't walk into Dunkin Donuts saying that.
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Why did he get caught?

I was suuper DRUNK 1 NITE crossing the bridge in Tampa Bay ... and hit 195 mph.... then I said ... holy shit WTF am I dooing? and slammed on the breaks down to 80 - which is very acceptable over the brige.... I got home and said... HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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to be fair, driving drunk at 143 mph seems pretty difficult, this guy clearly has skills.

i get nervous when i'm driving over 80, then again my car is a p.o.s. and starts to rattle uncontrollably
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that would be reckless driving (a felony) for anyone else
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It is not a felony... what country do you live in?
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LOL this guy is a winner. PUlled a gun on some burger guys cuz they werent fast enough with his order. shit...
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Cops have qualified immunity -- it's necessary for them to do their jobs and it's childish to compare this situation to what would happen to a civilian in a similar situation.

He wasn't even on duty at the time as far as I know. Would you lose your job over a traffic ticket you got while on your own time? I think not.
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alright, just put him in prison for the felony, then fire him for not meeting job requirements.

anywho, if he was drunk on the job, anybody would get fired for that. and if he wasn't working, then he should be treated as a civilian like everyone else.
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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


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quote: The manager of safety fired Saunders last December. Saunders appealed, arguing his termination was unfair and excessive.



"excessive and unfair" ??? had he killed someone, would that have still been unfair?

Plus the guy got his job back? I'm wondering how the hell he got his license back

wtf
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Damn 143 mph???? Do you realize how fast that is? thats twice as fast as everyone else on the road. he had to look like a blip to anyone watching.
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that would be reckless driving (a felony) for anyone else
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yeah no shit. You can get a felony reckless for going 25 over here


this is unbelievable

145mph is really fast SOBER

much less intoxicated. He should be doing the max time for DUI/reckless, which is 6 years prison time here


fuckin cops
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Damn 143 mph???? Do you realize how fast that is? thats twice as fast as everyone else on the road. he had to look like a blip to anyone watching.
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its fast for America. In some countries in middle east/europe they don't have speed limits.

but 143mph is FAST. IF you wreck going that fast, your pretty much TOAST. Or anyone else you hit on the road


there was a guy who lived though last year doing 215MPH in a Veyron. Some how he only had a few scratches and broken ribs.


speed kills. But the cops can get away with it, drunk or not it seems.
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Id Drumk podtinh s Felony?
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Not sure... but I am going to go drunk dive to Mcdonalds cause I am a FAT American,,, as long as I don't run somebody over I will be O.K>

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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


How did this thread warrant you to spout this horseshit?
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

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“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

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Why did he get caught?

I was suuper DRUNK 1 NITE crossing the bridge in Tampa Bay ... and hit 195 mph.... then I said ... holy shit WTF am I dooing? and slammed on the breaks down to 80 - which is very acceptable over the brige.... I got home and said... HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13974494


your nite nite time was about 7 hours ago
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

“Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill

“Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

Every man has a right to utter what he thinks is truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. - Samuel Johnson
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Damn 143 mph???? Do you realize how fast that is? thats twice as fast as everyone else on the road. he had to look like a blip to anyone watching.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16030604


was he on a crotch rocket?
SMILE...you're not as stupid as they think you are!

"Once a government is committed to the principal of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in terror" - Harry S Truman

"The single most inspiring source for us is the human struggle." Jared Leto

“Money, without brains, always is dangerous. Properly used, it is the most important essential of civilization.” - Napoleon Hill

“Failures see the hole in the donut, but do not see the donut around the hole.” - Napoleon Hill

“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.” ― Milton Friedman

Every man has a right to utter what he thinks is truth, and every other man has a right to knock him down for it. - Samuel Johnson
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different rules for the rich
different rules for the pigs

times change.
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How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


Sarcasm, I imagine? The kind of gross stupidity and moral and ethical dead zone you exhibit by this post can't be real.

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that would be reckless driving (a felony) for anyone else
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You gotta love the hypocrisy.... or you hate america 0_0



I'm sick of Cops getting a slap on the wrist for these kinds of behaivors, and when people who are sane enough to speak up about these travesty, they are shouted down for hating America, being a criminal, a hoodlum, a drug dealer, or worse yet.... a hippie
:/
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Good God not a hippie
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that would be reckless driving (a felony) for anyone else
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


How original, another cop bashing thread!

The next time you need to call 911 instead of calling the police why don't you call a hippie to come help you ?

Everybody hates a cop until you need one to save your ass ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9943244


actually its not a cop bashing thread. its a thread that is pointing out the fact that civilians are the ones being bashed. how could a man that is supposed to uphold the law and set the example commit such a dangerous act and then be forgiven? he should be punished 5x more than a civilian and never ever be considered to have his job back as a LAW ENFORCER! if i was to recieve a dui i would lose my job no questions asked and never be eligible for re hire. THIS IS CORRUPTION!


bushfing
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he should be 'forgiven' but he should not be a cop


He obviously, skilled or not, has a bad problem


drinking

speeding at that rate, drunk, shows hatred towards his fellow man/woman

using a vehicle, at that rate of speed, could readily end up in homicide

He should not be a cop...


simple...and he should get some treatment for his alcoholism and his anger issues


I would have more respect for cops if they handled their buiness instead of rewarding abhorrent behaviour

regardless of 'his problems' he cannot impose his dysfunction on the masses


especially being a cop
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to be fair, driving drunk at 143 mph seems pretty difficult, this guy clearly has skills.

i get nervous when i'm driving over 80, then again my car is a p.o.s. and starts to rattle uncontrollably
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bsflag
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how is a bsflag even applicable to my comment? explain yourself at once, sir!