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THE DELIBERATE 'DUMBING' DOWN OF AMERICA (VIDEO WITHIN)

 
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For every moron that graduates HS and can't read or write, we should be able to go back and get a full accounting of that from their teachers. Jobs should be lost. Asses should be kicked.
 Quoting: ruxpin


Yes it is the teachers fault. Not the bureaucrats and their rules and restrictions.

Keep blaming the serfs, serf.
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Scary is the fact that educators would rather make a paycheck instead deal with the changing population of kids TODAY. YOU chose to take on the task of educating them. If they have cell phones and find your class boring, liven it up. It's your job to to keep the kids focused. You are being paid about 60k a year to do this correct? Times change and our kids are half nuts due to involuntary immunizations and environmental garbage they inhale daily. Deal with it and then tell me who's actually making the future scary k?
 Quoting: Doomalicious


I think it's scary that parents would rather text on their iphone, fight with everyone they know, watch TV, screw around and get drunk than raise their own kids.

They expect the education system to compensate for their own shitty parenting and half the time the kids are nuts because they don't know where they'll be spending the weekend as their new step-dad has his own brood that needs a place to stay. It's horrifying how unstable some families are.

They chose to spit them out with people they barely know but seem to think it is the job of everyone else to raise them properly; except that they object to that as well - their own brat is 'an angel' or 'autistic' or 'just a kid who for some mysterious reason doesn't listen'.

Most of the time 'problem kids' come from broken homes, have been given 'trashy' names and their parents are completely uninvolved in their education. Or they let the kid watch six hours of TV a day.
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Right on, Ilana!
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Thanks for my 1st good laugh of the day! :)

I'm a teacher and by the time they get to HS a lot of damage is done. I give them assignments which are intended to have them practice what we are learning and 90% of them are totally dumbfounded. The few who are with it sit there in disbelief and look very bored. Classes are overcrowded and students must be LED BY THE HAND to do absolutely everything.

I cannot simplify my curriculum any more because then I'd be teaching 4th grade content in HS. I should add that the majority of the students do not care if they fail, are extremely disrespectful to themselves and others, and feel very entitled to be entertained as opposed to educated. I blame the video games for that.

The future will be a scary time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13380113


My wife teaches kindergarten this year, and out of 30 kids, only 6 made national bench marks. Dumb makes dumb....I never used to think so....but...evidence is mounting. Bad DNA combined with bad parenting skills = disaster...not just for the U.S. but for us all.
 Quoting: mr2


:word:

But wait, wouldn't you be a DNA racist who uses actual science to prove facts and that yes, the blood running through your veins does have an affect on your intelligence and ability to have common sense?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Thing is, we've built a world where ya don't have to be that smart to do well, live well, and be useful and productive.

It's the God Damned Banks and systems that are all ass backward.

People just need an honest shot in this world, and there has always been more than enough to go around for everyone.

Those with the Low IQ's are still useful, they can tend land, work, own land, they just need some to mind after them a bit. For this task some small part of the work output, 5% or 10% should be diverted to compensate for the time it takes to mind after the property that was formally belonging to the South.

However some, need no minding after at all, they seem to do quite well all by themselves. IQ is really no test of a Man measure.
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For every moron that graduates HS and can't read or write, we should be able to go back and get a full accounting of that from their teachers. Jobs should be lost. Asses should be kicked.
 Quoting: ruxpin


Yes it is the teachers fault. Not the bureaucrats and their rules and restrictions.

Keep blaming the serfs, serf.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9701390


No, it's also the parent/family unit's fault. Kids are born with potential. Their families and our schools either nurture that or cause it to wither.
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Just look at what threads get pinned here. I think we don't need to talk about the "dumbing" down of America, just the "dumbing" down of GLP.
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Are you having a fit over this thread or just having a mental breakdown in general?
 Quoting: Doomalicious


Why does it have to be about this thread being pinned? It is more what kinds of threads get pinned on here. Stupid threads, repeating the stupidity which had been pinned the day before until it was debunked in the thread so a new pinned version has to be made. That's an attempt by those with karma to dumb down GLP. That's just an example.

As for this thread, it is an overly-simplistic presentation. While it is true that kids are not trained in Greek, Latin, mathematics and subjects like them as they were in the past, kids are trained more in the sciences than ever before (just an example of where we know more than the past and are trained with more). In other words, some things are not taught as much, agreed, other things are taught more, agreed. It's not about "dumbing down" America, but about different needs different times.
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That isn't true, trust me. To know the truth about this, you have to go through the school system and see it first hand like I did... it is BAD and this video doesn't show half of it.
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The process of programming and controlling people starts from the time they are born. Children have no way of realizing how they are being programmed and controlled. Children are bombarded with liberal humanist ideology taught in the secular education establishment, which includes the so-called "Christian" churches. They are brought up to believe they are the ones who're in control of their own destiny, yet the programming by the "elite" liberals humanists ensures they continue to do what "they" want them to do. Few are able to break out of their "system", and those who do are made to look like they're lunatics or a security risk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16535332


This is where awakened parents come in and teach their kids exactly what and who they are as well as how to play the game. We live in a dark game with rules, walls and boundaries that can actually be beat by the rite humans who create their own worlds within the system. It is akin to putting a sun roof or chopping the top off the car you have been given so you can shine the light inside where there was once no light.

This light starts at home for all of us and if we each do our parts with our own children, we will raise the future enlightened leaders who will lead us into the light as opposed to the dark. The only real way to do this is with money because money buys freedom and then you use that same money which is a form of energy to create smart things and helpful tools for the not so smart.

I also believe the system and government are changing by allowing people like us to operate without fear of censorship. Hence, people are now having a choice of what media and knowledge banks they go to in order to be informed. Hence, we now have a choice between the wells in which we gather our water and the wrong choice will be poisonous and result in a Karmic Death.

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Scary is the fact that educators would rather make a paycheck instead deal with the changing population of kids TODAY. YOU chose to take on the task of educating them. If they have cell phones and find your class boring, liven it up. It's your job to to keep the kids focused. You are being paid about 60k a year to do this correct? Times change and our kids are half nuts due to involuntary immunizations and environmental garbage they inhale daily. Deal with it and then tell me who's actually making the future scary k?
 Quoting: Doomalicious


I think it's scary that parents would rather text on their iphone, fight with everyone they know, watch TV, screw around and get drunk than raise their own kids.

They expect the education system to compensate for their own shitty parenting and half the time the kids are nuts because they don't know where they'll be spending the weekend as their new step-dad has his own brood that needs a place to stay. It's horrifying how unstable some families are.

They chose to spit them out with people they barely know but seem to think it is the job of everyone else to raise them properly; except that they object to that as well - their own brat is 'an angel' or 'autistic' or 'just a kid who for some mysterious reason doesn't listen'.

Most of the time 'problem kids' come from broken homes, have been given 'trashy' names and their parents are completely uninvolved in their education. Or they let the kid watch six hours of TV a day.
 Quoting: Ilana


I agree with most of what you said here. However, to be far it is not easy to raise a child in today's society.

Even if you raise your child very well and proper he or she is still going to be going out to "friends houses you don't really know. They will be spending 40 hours a week at school with people from all over their respective districts. The kid may lie and say they are going one place, then go to another.

Then you have the T.V., the radio, and video games brainwashing them with all sorts of nonsense.

The parents are generally working their brains out with some working as many as 3 jobs, 80+ hours per week each just to make ends meet and live in a decent house in a decent neighborhood.

Of course there is more to this story then what I have described here, like how medication is being prescribed to the parents and the children for anything and everything under the sun. And on...and on...and on....

This a societal issue that these kids are being raised in. There is little a parent can do to combat all of the above and more, and are simply very lucky to wind up with a child that would cooperate with them even if they were the absolute most perfect parent in the world thanks to unavoidable outside influence.

Society in America is in bleeding desperate need of an enema.
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For every moron that graduates HS and can't read or write, we should be able to go back and get a full accounting of that from their teachers. Jobs should be lost. Asses should be kicked.
 Quoting: ruxpin


YES YES and YES.

And parents should have to apply for licenses to breed.

EVERYONE needs to be accountable here, because it is the kids who are suffereing from BAD teachers and BAD home environments.

There is hope, but not the way things are going now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2702537


Kids can manage with the odd bad teacher a lot more easily than bad parents. Most only have that teacher for one subject or for one year but they're stuck with their parents until they're at least 16 or so...

This is why I can't stand Libertarianism - they seem to think that every kid has great middle class families; they have no clue what having shitty parents is really like. I know all too well how destructive it is.
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Scary is the fact that educators would rather make a paycheck instead deal with the changing population of kids TODAY. YOU chose to take on the task of educating them. If they have cell phones and find your class boring, liven it up. It's your job to to keep the kids focused. You are being paid about 60k a year to do this correct? Times change and our kids are half nuts due to involuntary immunizations and environmental garbage they inhale daily. Deal with it and then tell me who's actually making the future scary k?
 Quoting: Doomalicious


I think it's scary that parents would rather text on their iphone, fight with everyone they know, watch TV, screw around and get drunk than raise their own kids.

They expect the education system to compensate for their own shitty parenting and half the time the kids are nuts because they don't know where they'll be spending the weekend as their new step-dad has his own brood that needs a place to stay. It's horrifying how unstable some families are.

They chose to spit them out with people they barely know but seem to think it is the job of everyone else to raise them properly; except that they object to that as well - their own brat is 'an angel' or 'autistic' or 'just a kid who for some mysterious reason doesn't listen'.

Most of the time 'problem kids' come from broken homes, have been given 'trashy' names and their parents are completely uninvolved in their education. Or they let the kid watch six hours of TV a day.
 Quoting: Ilana



Right on, Ilana!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2702537


Now we get at the real reason we need to dumb everything down now.........because none will know how to dumb it all down later ;-)

No really, it's fixable, it really is. It's not even that hard to fix, but we got to stop bitching and start spitballing, if not us who?

If not now, when?

I love ya, I do, but in a World full of morons just who do you morons think is going to fix these troubles???

???
??????
?????????

Lead, fallow, or Sit down and STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for my 1st good laugh of the day! :)

I'm a teacher and by the time they get to HS a lot of damage is done. I give them assignments which are intended to have them practice what we are learning and 90% of them are totally dumbfounded. The few who are with it sit there in disbelief and look very bored. Classes are overcrowded and students must be LED BY THE HAND to do absolutely everything.

I cannot simplify my curriculum any more because then I'd be teaching 4th grade content in HS. I should add that the majority of the students do not care if they fail, are extremely disrespectful to themselves and others, and feel very entitled to be entertained as opposed to educated. I blame the video games for that.

The future will be a scary time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13380113


My wife teaches kindergarten this year, and out of 30 kids, only 6 made national bench marks. Dumb makes dumb....I never used to think so....but...evidence is mounting. Bad DNA combined with bad parenting skills = disaster...not just for the U.S. but for us all.
 Quoting: mr2


word

But wait, wouldn't you be a DNA racist who uses actual science to prove facts and that yes, the blood running through your veins does have an affect on your intelligence and ability to have common sense?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Thing is, we've built a world where ya don't have to be that smart to do well, live well, and be useful and productive.

It's the God Damned Banks and systems that are all ass backward.

People just need an honest shot in this world, and there has always been more than enough to go around for everyone.

Those with the Low IQ's are still useful, they can tend land, work, own land, they just need some to mind after them a bit. For this task some small part of the work output, 5% or 10% should be diverted to compensate for the time it takes to mind after the property that was formally belonging to the South.

However some, need no minding after at all, they seem to do quite well all by themselves. IQ is really no test of a Man measure.
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You make a lot of sense and I agree, but there is no need to put low IQ humans who are more workers with higher IQ creators in the same class. The facts are we all have different skills, IQ's, blood and missions in life. This one size fits all slaves is about as dumb of a school system there has EVER been.

Us humans with souls and creative abilities DO NOT need to sit in the same classrooms as the worker bees. But that does NOT mean I do not love the worker bees or think they should be extinct, I AM just sick of being stung because they are jealous or cannot think themselves out of a wet paper sack....
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Well. That's the way it is. Why are we not rioting in the streets yet? Will we ever? Judging from the conversations I heard in the voice chat we are a nation of idiots. We are being lead to slaughter.
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Well I guess a lot of parents are busy homeschooling.

It's never been a better time for homeschooling. The online stuff is unbelievable. If you have a bright kid, have a look around some of the top universities' websites:

[link to ocw.mit.edu]

[link to oyc.yale.edu]

and others, these are just two I've used.
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The process of programming and controlling people starts from the time they are born. Children have no way of realizing how they are being programmed and controlled. Children are bombarded with liberal humanist ideology taught in the secular education establishment, which includes the so-called "Christian" churches. They are brought up to believe they are the ones who're in control of their own destiny, yet the programming by the "elite" liberals humanists ensures they continue to do what "they" want them to do. Few are able to break out of their "system", and those who do are made to look like they're lunatics or a security risk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16535332


This is where awakened parents come in and teach their kids exactly what and who they are as well as how to play the game. We live in a dark game with rules, walls and boundaries that can actually be beat by the rite humans who create their own worlds within the system. It is akin to putting a sun roof or chopping the top off the car you have been given so you can shine the light inside where there was once no light.

This light starts at home for all of us and if we each do our parts with our own children, we will raise the future enlightened leaders who will lead us into the light as opposed to the dark. The only real way to do this is with money because money buys freedom and then you use that same money which is a form of energy to create smart things and helpful tools for the not so smart.

I also believe the system and government are changing by allowing people like us to operate without fear of censorship. Hence, people are now having a choice of what media and knowledge banks they go to in order to be informed. Hence, we now have a choice between the wells in which we gather our water and the wrong choice will be poisonous and result in a Karmic Death.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY, AND COMPLETELY SECULAR LIBERAL HUMANIST VIEW POINT! ITS THE VERY SAME SECULAR LIBERAL HUMANIST "ENLIGHTENED" VIEW POINT THEY HAVE BEEN USING TO PROGRAM AND CONTROL THE "CHILDREN" FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS! YOU DON'T GET IT!
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For every moron that graduates HS and can't read or write, we should be able to go back and get a full accounting of that from their teachers. Jobs should be lost. Asses should be kicked.
 Quoting: ruxpin


YES YES and YES.

And parents should have to apply for licenses to breed.

EVERYONE needs to be accountable here, because it is the kids who are suffereing from BAD teachers and BAD home environments.

There is hope, but not the way things are going now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2702537


Kids can manage with the odd bad teacher a lot more easily than bad parents. Most only have that teacher for one subject or for one year but they're stuck with their parents until they're at least 16 or so...

This is why I can't stand Libertarianism - they seem to think that every kid has great middle class families; they have no clue what having shitty parents is really like. I know all too well how destructive it is.
 Quoting: Ilana


Well, that is the problem with most our families and communities. Shitty parents who are emulated by their kids who then become even more shitty. It is only certain children who can break this cycle of shittyness and it is in their DNA. We need to identify these children and separate the wheat from the tares using science and common sense.
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Well. That's the way it is. Why are we not rioting in the streets yet? Will we ever? Judging from the conversations I heard in the voice chat we are a nation of idiots. We are being lead to slaughter.
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Too much fluoride in our water.

I wan't to riot, but I would be the only one in my area that has a problem with anything. Cuz' da' gubment' got yer back.
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Well. That's the way it is. Why are we not rioting in the streets yet? Will we ever? Judging from the conversations I heard in the voice chat we are a nation of idiots. We are being lead to slaughter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15827957


Well I guess a lot of parents are busy homeschooling.

It's never been a better time for homeschooling. The online stuff is unbelievable. If you have a bright kid, have a look around some of the top universities' websites:

[link to ocw.mit.edu]

[link to oyc.yale.edu]

and others, these are just two I've used.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16545955


Mit and Yale aren't part of their "system" to program and control the children? You people are idiots being led to the slaughter!
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Just look at what threads get pinned here. I think we don't need to talk about the "dumbing" down of America, just the "dumbing" down of GLP.
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Are you having a fit over this thread or just having a mental breakdown in general?
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Why does it have to be about this thread being pinned? It is more what kinds of threads get pinned on here. Stupid threads, repeating the stupidity which had been pinned the day before until it was debunked in the thread so a new pinned version has to be made. That's an attempt by those with karma to dumb down GLP. That's just an example.

As for this thread, it is an overly-simplistic presentation. While it is true that kids are not trained in Greek, Latin, mathematics and subjects like them as they were in the past, kids are trained more in the sciences than ever before (just an example of where we know more than the past and are trained with more). In other words, some things are not taught as much, agreed, other things are taught more, agreed. It's not about "dumbing down" America, but about different needs different times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16599982


The thing is we NEED to go back to basics....

Reading, writing, and Arithmetic....

When I was in college, getting an engineering degree, and learning Calculus and had problems....

My mom had taken Calc back in high school and could solve the problems....

So the different needs and different times are BS....

Our schools are going backwards not forwards in education...
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This video correlates the OP's vid. Everyone should check this out. Worth the 20minutes

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For every moron that graduates HS and can't read or write, we should be able to go back and get a full accounting of that from their teachers. Jobs should be lost. Asses should be kicked.
 Quoting: ruxpin


YES YES and YES.

And parents should have to apply for licenses to breed.

EVERYONE needs to be accountable here, because it is the kids who are suffereing from BAD teachers and BAD home environments.

There is hope, but not the way things are going now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2702537


Kids can manage with the odd bad teacher a lot more easily than bad parents. Most only have that teacher for one subject or for one year but they're stuck with their parents until they're at least 16 or so...

This is why I can't stand Libertarianism - they seem to think that every kid has great middle class families; they have no clue what having shitty parents is really like. I know all too well how destructive it is.
 Quoting: Ilana


Well, that is the problem with most our families and communities. Shitty parents who are emulated by their kids who then become even more shitty. It is only certain children who can break this cycle of shittyness and it is in their DNA. We need to identify these children and separate the wheat from the tares using science and common sense.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Oh yeah, like the Templar's aren't part of the "system"! Read what you posted! How many times did you use the word "shitty"? Oh yeah, like you're some great example for the "children"! Get off your high horse wicked man!
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The process of programming and controlling people starts from the time they are born. Children have no way of realizing how they are being programmed and controlled. Children are bombarded with liberal humanist ideology taught in the secular education establishment, which includes the so-called "Christian" churches. They are brought up to believe they are the ones who're in control of their own destiny, yet the programming by the "elite" liberals humanists ensures they continue to do what "they" want them to do. Few are able to break out of their "system", and those who do are made to look like they're lunatics or a security risk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16535332


This is where awakened parents come in and teach their kids exactly what and who they are as well as how to play the game. We live in a dark game with rules, walls and boundaries that can actually be beat by the rite humans who create their own worlds within the system. It is akin to putting a sun roof or chopping the top off the car you have been given so you can shine the light inside where there was once no light.

This light starts at home for all of us and if we each do our parts with our own children, we will raise the future enlightened leaders who will lead us into the light as opposed to the dark. The only real way to do this is with money because money buys freedom and then you use that same money which is a form of energy to create smart things and helpful tools for the not so smart.

I also believe the system and government are changing by allowing people like us to operate without fear of censorship. Hence, people are now having a choice of what media and knowledge banks they go to in order to be informed. Hence, we now have a choice between the wells in which we gather our water and the wrong choice will be poisonous and result in a Karmic Death.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY, AND COMPLETELY SECULAR LIBERAL HUMANIST VIEW POINT! ITS THE VERY SAME SECULAR LIBERAL HUMANIST "ENLIGHTENED" VIEW POINT THEY HAVE BEEN USING TO PROGRAM AND CONTROL THE "CHILDREN" FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS! YOU DON'T GET IT!
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No, I do get it and believe some people should be controlled unknowingly for their own good, but NOT all children should be treated in such a fashion. This one size fits all education system is no longer needed when their are no jobs for the soul profane or creatively ignorant population who is and will become a huge burden on the very same said creators.
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HELLO!


Why is Soreos & company pushing the legalization of Marijuana?

They want our youth to damage their minds and kill their drive to find success.

The higher the drug use in a community correlates to a higher drop out rate.

Ironically the higher the drop out rate the schools can then survey the kids left in school and say, " look our drug abuse rate seems to be lower"!

Well yeah, you lost a ton of kids, now they are sitting on the couch smoking pot!




Pot is the ultimate duming down of America.
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HELLO!


Why is Soreos & company pushing the legalization of Marijuana?

They want our youth to damage their minds and kill their drive to find success.

The higher the drug use in a community correlates to a higher drop out rate.

Ironically the higher the drop out rate the schools can then survey the kids left in school and say, " look our drug abuse rate seems to be lower"!

Well yeah, you lost a ton of kids, now they are sitting on the couch smoking pot!




Pot is the ultimate duming down of America.
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Don't think its the ultimate....

I believe opium is the ultimate, it was used to subdue the Chinese in the 1800s so that Britain could rule with its might...
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Deliberate or not it seems to be true.
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Fucking libtards. You killed the American dream so tards could get a diploma. Now they are worthless pieces of shit.
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While this post ^^^^^ is a bit simplistic, the logic is true.

Before I retired, I was a Teacher's Assistant at a local community college. I was involved in an "alternative" program for high-school students who, for one reason or another, were no longer enrolled in the "regular" high school; we helped them to "catch up" their credits, earn their diploma or complete their GED so that they could move on to college.

The last year or so (before I retired), we were REQUIRED to attend day-long "workshops" in "Holistic Writing" during the "down-times" between terms. We were told (had it pounded into our heads, actually) that GRAMMAR no longer mattered, SPELLING no longer mattered, SENTENCE/PARAGRAPH construction no longer mattered - all that mattered was to look and see if somewhere in the student's hodge-podge response was some osrt of idea that the student had a remote clue. Even if the response was just a re-wording of the original question it was acceptable. We were then given sample paragraphs to score "holistically" and then scored on OUR scoring. If we did not "pass" we had to repeat the workshop until we got it "right". It was pure torture to read and score these actual paragraphs, it would practically reduce us to tears to see the AWFUL English, spelling, and grammar put out by high school students! And they were all acceptable under this "holistic scoring" crap.

At the same time there was a big push for "group" productions, where the "grade" was given to ALL of the students involved in the project regardless of their actual contribution. We objected, because we could see the likelihood of one or two "good" students carrying thw whole group, allowing lazy or disinterested students to just float along. But it didn't matter to the bureaucracy.

This was all because of the "self-esteem", "feel-good", "everyone's a winner" philosophy which has been insidiously infecting the Educational system over the past few years. You know, like how correcting in red pen might hurt the student's feelings so you have to use green or purple.

We were horrified, repulsed, alarmed, demoralized, and about 50 other negative adjectives! There was a near riot by the teachers, and the general concensus was that no way in HELL were we going to be teaching our students that way! We were then informed that if we didn't like it there were many other "newly-graduated" (read "indoctrinated") teachers who would be eager to take our places (at lower salaries - a "win-win" for the college) and if we wanted to keep our jobs we WOULD implement holistic scoring into our classes. Or else.

We spent the rest of that year "fighting back" in every way we could, holding spelling bees (with prizes), writing contests, teaching proper sentence structure, etc. Even the required "group projects" were split into sections so that each student could be graded on their individual contribution. We were determined to bring out the excellence in EACH student, regardless of his/her level when they entered our program. Some of our students were only with us for 2 or 3 terms, and we were committed to giving them the best chance of educational success as we possibly could when they returned to their high school or went on to college.

I retired at the end of that year; I'd almost be afraid to re-visit the program now and see what it has become given the meddling by the "psychologists" who have infiltrated the educational system!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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This video correlates the OP's vid. Everyone should check this out. Worth the 20minutes


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I LOVE SIR KEN AND HIS TEACHINGS!!! hf

Here is a link to his website;

[link to sirkenrobinson.com]

Here is Sir Ken and why he Home Schools his children.


[link to sirkenrobinson.com]
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You make a lot of sense and I agree, but there is no need to put low IQ humans who are more workers with higher IQ creators in the same class. The facts are we all have different skills, IQ's, blood and missions in life. This one size fits all slaves is about as dumb of a school system there has EVER been.

Us humans with souls and creative abilities DO NOT need to sit in the same classrooms as the worker bees. But that does NOT mean I do not love the worker bees or think they should be extinct, I AM just sick of being stung because they are jealous or cannot think themselves out of a wet paper sack....
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Yes, each Child must be able to move it his/her own pace. It's not about who is in the class, it's about the level of work they are doing.

I would say half of dropouts are too advanced for the work that is handed to them, and they need to make money while they learn.

FYI a High School Dropout costs the State $265k, on average over his/her lifetime.

If we paid each child $5 per day to attend school and $20 per A, $15 per B, $10 per C $5 per D and $0 per F, and the child made straight A's in 6 classes 5 semesters for 14 years with 200 school days per year.

The total cost to the State would be?

$22,400 for perfect attendance head start-high school and a 4.0 GPA.

We have thrown money at this trouble everywhere but the place it needs to go, wealth begets wealthy, and poverty begets poverty.

How can any teach a Child to manage money, if the Child has no money to manage?

How can any teach a Child work ethic, if the Child has no Work?

We will spend x10 $22,400 to keep this Child in Jail or on Welfare when they are older, it is penny wise and pound foolish.

K.I.S.S.
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Just look at what threads get pinned here. I think we don't need to talk about the "dumbing" down of America, just the "dumbing" down of GLP.
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Are you having a fit over this thread or just having a mental breakdown in general?
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Why does it have to be about this thread being pinned? It is more what kinds of threads get pinned on here. Stupid threads, repeating the stupidity which had been pinned the day before until it was debunked in the thread so a new pinned version has to be made. That's an attempt by those with karma to dumb down GLP. That's just an example.

As for this thread, it is an overly-simplistic presentation. While it is true that kids are not trained in Greek, Latin, mathematics and subjects like them as they were in the past, kids are trained more in the sciences than ever before (just an example of where we know more than the past and are trained with more). In other words, some things are not taught as much, agreed, other things are taught more, agreed. It's not about "dumbing down" America, but about different needs different times.
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The thing is we NEED to go back to basics....

Reading, writing, and Arithmetic....

When I was in college, getting an engineering degree, and learning Calculus and had problems....

My mom had taken Calc back in high school and could solve the problems....

So the different needs and different times are BS....

Our schools are going backwards not forwards in education...
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Taint no "going back"! The damage is done! The sins of the fathers are being brought to reality by their children! Societal collapse is the end result! Look around! The Lord God's Laws are NOT upheld in this nation! Every form of licenteousness is practiced in this nation in the name of FREEDOM! You think this is progress? You think that this will end well? You're blind and deaf if you do!
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YES YES and YES.

And parents should have to apply for licenses to breed.

EVERYONE needs to be accountable here, because it is the kids who are suffereing from BAD teachers and BAD home environments.

There is hope, but not the way things are going now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2702537


Kids can manage with the odd bad teacher a lot more easily than bad parents. Most only have that teacher for one subject or for one year but they're stuck with their parents until they're at least 16 or so...

This is why I can't stand Libertarianism - they seem to think that every kid has great middle class families; they have no clue what having shitty parents is really like. I know all too well how destructive it is.
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Well, that is the problem with most our families and communities. Shitty parents who are emulated by their kids who then become even more shitty. It is only certain children who can break this cycle of shittyness and it is in their DNA. We need to identify these children and separate the wheat from the tares using science and common sense.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


Oh yeah, like the Templar's aren't part of the "system"! Read what you posted! How many times did you use the word "shitty"? Oh yeah, like you're some great example for the "children"! Get off your high horse wicked man!
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We are working on creating a new temple and system. Does using the word shitty mean I AM wicked man or bad example for the children of the GLP?
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Sorry - in the third paragraph the word should be "sort" - as in "some SORT of idea". My fingers were typing too fast!!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Fucking libtards. You killed the American dream so tards could get a diploma. Now they are worthless pieces of shit.
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While this post ^^^^^ is a bit simplistic, the logic is true.

Before I retired, I was a Teacher's Assistant at a local community college. I was involved in an "alternative" program for high-school students who, for one reason or another, were no longer enrolled in the "regular" high school; we helped them to "catch up" their credits, earn their diploma or complete their GED so that they could move on to college.

The last year or so (before I retired), we were REQUIRED to attend day-long "workshops" in "Holistic Writing" during the "down-times" between terms. We were told (had it pounded into our heads, actually) that GRAMMAR no longer mattered, SPELLING no longer mattered, SENTENCE/PARAGRAPH construction no longer mattered - all that mattered was to look and see if somewhere in the student's hodge-podge response was some osrt of idea that the student had a remote clue. Even if the response was just a re-wording of the original question it was acceptable. We were then given sample paragraphs to score "holistically" and then scored on OUR scoring. If we did not "pass" we had to repeat the workshop until we got it "right". It was pure torture to read and score these actual paragraphs, it would practically reduce us to tears to see the AWFUL English, spelling, and grammar put out by high school students! And they were all acceptable under this "holistic scoring" crap.

At the same time there was a big push for "group" productions, where the "grade" was given to ALL of the students involved in the project regardless of their actual contribution. We objected, because we could see the likelihood of one or two "good" students carrying thw whole group, allowing lazy or disinterested students to just float along. But it didn't matter to the bureaucracy.

This was all because of the "self-esteem", "feel-good", "everyone's a winner" philosophy which has been insidiously infecting the Educational system over the past few years. You know, like how correcting in red pen might hurt the student's feelings so you have to use green or purple.

We were horrified, repulsed, alarmed, demoralized, and about 50 other negative adjectives! There was a near riot by the teachers, and the general concensus was that no way in HELL were we going to be teaching our students that way! We were then informed that if we didn't like it there were many other "newly-graduated" (read "indoctrinated") teachers who would be eager to take our places (at lower salaries - a "win-win" for the college) and if we wanted to keep our jobs we WOULD implement holistic scoring into our classes. Or else.

We spent the rest of that year "fighting back" in every way we could, holding spelling bees (with prizes), writing contests, teaching proper sentence structure, etc. Even the required "group projects" were split into sections so that each student could be graded on their individual contribution. We were determined to bring out the excellence in EACH student, regardless of his/her level when they entered our program. Some of our students were only with us for 2 or 3 terms, and we were committed to giving them the best chance of educational success as we possibly could when they returned to their high school or went on to college.

I retired at the end of that year; I'd almost be afraid to re-visit the program now and see what it has become given the meddling by the "psychologists" who have infiltrated the educational system!
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Yup. Liberals dominate college/universities now. So horrible...

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