Conservative , Evanglical ,Tea-party all want sharia law in USA ---Here is proof

The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!

We clearly see that adultery causes death from the Verses above. Let us see what Jesus peace be upon him said about adultery:

The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Matthew 19:9 "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." Wouldn't this cause the man to be put to death?

Mark 10:11 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her." Again, wouldn't he then be put to death since he would have committed adultery?

Mark 10:12 "And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery." Same question I ask about the women who are considered have committed adultery. Wouldn't they be put to death also?

Luke 16:18 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."

My question here is: Would an adulterer in the New Testament be put to death?

Keep in mind that when Jesus gave the above laws, he gave them during the time when he spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law:

Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament's laws: "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)" It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3)" We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death.

How does the Tea Party go against equal rights for women?

Moron.

What about John 8:1-11? Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

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But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
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At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
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The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
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and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
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In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
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They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
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Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
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At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
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Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
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"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake. That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.

Jesus said "Women who doesn't cover their heads Should be force to shave their Heads". Was Jesus recommending "Burkha" ?
<< 1 Corinthians 11:6 >>

New International Version
If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.

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What about John 8:1-11? Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

1
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
2
At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
3
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
4
and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
5
In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
6
They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
7
When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
8
Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
10
Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
11
"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography. We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography. And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty. When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?! That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake. That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.

anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death. (Leviticus 24:16)

If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death?the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' (Leviticus 20:27)
While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses. (Numbers 15:32-36)

But seat two scoundrels opposite him and have them testify that he has cursed both God and the king. Then take him out and stone him to death." (1 Kings 21:10)

The Bible even calls for the stoning of animals!

"If a bull gores a man or a woman to death, the bull must be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible. (Exodus 21:28)

So as one can see, the Bible is filled with verses that call for stoning, hence my question to Christians such as David wood is, from what basis do you attack Islamic law on stoning? It certainly isn't a Biblical basis! Rather it seems Christians like David Wood are arguing from a LIBERAL foundation

S.G I have never seen you use such profanity!

Oh, and I can't wait until that big SF GIANTS symbol replaces your Reds AV

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Last Edited by Sleeping Giant on 05/24/2012 04:31 PM

LOL. I thought this thread deserved it!

Edit to add: I saw someone use it last night, thought it was funny.

Last Edited by Sleeping Giant on 05/24/2012 04:32 PM

Sex-Based Inheritance Rules, Islamic Law, and the Old Testament


As I noted on the thread about the will calling for distribution “according to Islamic Laws and Sharia,” traditional Islamic law appears to call for sons to get double the share that daughters get. I should note, though, that Islamic law is in this respect better for women than is Old Testament law.

Numbers 27:8-11 provides,

Say to the Israelites, “If a man dies and leaves no son, give his inheritance to his daughter. If he has no daughter, give his inheritance to his brothers. If he has no brothers, give his inheritance to his father’s brothers. If his father had no brothers, give his inheritance to the nearest relative in his clan, that he may possess it. This is to have the force of law for the Israelites, as the LORD commanded Moses.”

This has been read as providing that daughters do not inherit at all if there are any living sons (though apparently they are entitled to some support from the estate, and to payment of wedding expenses). As best I can tell, some Orthodox jewish people continue to endorse this rule.

Now, as I mentioned in my original post, I think (1) a person should be free to leave his property as he sees fit (subject to the duties to provide for a widow or widower, or for minor children while they are minors), whether he does for religious reasons or not, and (2) courts should generally not enforce provisions that call for the courts to apply religious law, at least in the many situations where the law may well be controversial given different modern religious views (e.g., “distribute my property according to Islamic Laws and Sharia [or Jewish Law]” would not be allowed, though “give my two sons 1/3 each and my two daughters 1/6 each [or give my son everything and my daughters nothing]” would be allowed). I don’t want to rehash these matters here. Also, I think (3) the better rule — the more morally sound rule, and more socially beneficial rule — is for people to treat their sons and daughters equally in such matters (though, as item 1 suggests, I certainly don’t think this should be a legally binding rule).

But here I just want to note that the Koran passages, as traditionally understood, are actually better for daughters than the Old Testament passages, as traditionally understood. To the extent that women are treated better today with regard to inheritance in many Christian and Jewish circles than in many Muslim circles, I think this stems not from the underlying scripture, but from the way that modern Christian and Jewish culture has generally evolved. That may be obvious to many readers, but in my experience many people claim that Islam is inherently worse in various ways than, say, Christianity or Judaism, because the Koran is inherently worse in various ways than the New Testament or the Old Testament or the combination of the two; I’m skeptical about such claims, and I’d be especially skeptical of such an explanation here.

LOL, if any thread ever deserved it, it would be this one.

:bullshit:

That true

One star.

If there was a "zero stars" option then I would have given this thread a zero star rating.

Garbage troll thread.

It's in bible

All quotes are from bible ----you saying bible is garbage ?

Again, how does the Tea Party oppose womens rights?

Tea party oppose Contraception ,Abortion ---Same as sharia

They are obviously forced to wear cute little red, white and blue skirts.

I oppose abortion. And I shave my head.....hmmmmm

maybe I am sharian.

Isn't Sharia Law religious?

If so, then NO...not acceptable and NOT allowed. It is not discrimination. It is being FAIR to ALL. If someone can not see that laws should not be based on GOD or NO GOD or anything like then they are discriminating against HUMANS in general.

All Muslims, Atheists, Christians, jewish people, Witches and the like will obey by man's LAW that protects EVERYONE in the fairest way possible without hurting others.

FUCK the non-religious and FUCK the religious. MAN rules over man so that you can CHOOSE to be religious or choose not to be religious while enjoying the same liberties and equalities

Welcome

No, not at all.

I am saying that projecting those words as the core values of conservative leaning Americans is garbage. It's a fairly obvious ploy. "The bible says this, Christians believe in the bible, so therefor Christians want Sharia law." You gotta be one stupid mofo to not IMMEDIATLY recognize the logical fallacy there.

Judging by most of the responses thus far, I'd have to say that most people see this exactly the same way I do. So, I'll fall back to my original assessment... one star(only because there isn't a zero star option) and this is a garbage troll thread.






.... and I'll also throw it out there that every reply by you thus far has raised the douche-bag factor, too.

Nice work, Keith Olberman.

I think u not following bible correctly---u can ask your pastor about this

Now you are mixing religion with spirituality. The Bible is the LIVING WORD of God. You don't need a pastor to interpret it for you.

Have you ever shit yourself while using public transit?

Well if Sharia gets pushed and accepted, it will first be the (religious) conservatives. Maybe they should rename it, put a good PR team behind it, maybe just FOX, and it will be done in 6 months. Conservatives are our Sharia Law.